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F1 2009: Japanese Grand Prix  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4097 times:

Lewis Hamilton won the Singapore Grand Prix.
Now let's see who will win at Suzuka!

Will Jenson Button stand more chances to win the World title?

Japanese Grand Prix

Suzuka, 2-4 October 2009

Friday 2
First practice: 1000-1130 (0200-0330 BST)
Second practice: 1400-1530 (0600-0730 BST)

Saturday 3
Third practice: 1100-1200 (0300-0400 BST)
Qualifying: 1400 (0600 BST)

Sunday 4
Race: 1400 (0600 BST)


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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

Suzuka is a different track, so lets see if Button will be able to grab a win again.
That said, he seems to have more issues with the tyres then Barrichello, and Baariichello can smell the title as well. So it will be down to the last race again I would say.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4080 times:

Well Rubens will be "on his own ground" in Brazil. Maybe this will give him an extra boost and the needed points toward the world title? Me would love to see another 3 Hammy wins!!  Big grin


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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4066 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 2):
Maybe this will give him an extra boost and the needed points toward the world title?

Well,
Barrichello is able to keep his tyres under control when Button is understeering like mad. Pretty strange actually as they are driving the same car. Likely that Barrichello is setting it up his car in a way that gives him that little upperhand in regards to the tyres.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5608 posts, RR: 45
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4056 times:
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Max's anointed gnome... er.. heir apparent has upset the South Africans.

Jean Todt asked The Telegraph "Do you think people in South Africa care what is happening in F1?"

The MD of Motorsport South Africa naturally took umbrage at this.. "Todt's comment is not only an insult to South Africa, but to all African countries. South Africa is extremely proud of the fact that a past F1 World Champion (Jody Scheckter) is a South African -- and that many very successful F1 Grands Prix were held in our country, which presently broadcasts every grand prix throughout Africa.

"In fact, South Africa had a F1 world champion fully six years before Todt's homeland, and while South Africa does not presently have a race on the F1 calendar, France does not, either. Accordingly it is very pleasing to note that Jody's name does not appear on the list of F1 drivers who support Todt."

One could ask the little Frenchman what the people of Abu Dhabi, Dubai or for that matter Malaysia, China and even Singapore care about F1... very little I would venture.

Cheers



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4032 times:

So according to the Spanish media (relayed by the French ones), Alonso signed a 6-year deal with Ferrari, for €25 million.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule1/breve...15742_alonso-va-ouvrir-le-bal.html (in French)

He said that he took his decision since a quite a long time (without mentionning to where he would go).

The latest rumours are:

Alonso to Ferrari
Kubica to Renault
Rosberg to Brawn GP (alongside Button)
Kimi back to McLaren



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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4026 times:



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 5):
The latest rumours are:

You can also add that Barrichello and Kova will swap seats for next season. Just heard this on CNN.
Makes no sense at all! Kova is not able to perform in the Mclaren, so why should he be able to do it in the BGP.
He will just be left behind by Button as Hamilton is leaving him behind now.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4024 times:

Put this in the Singapore GP report but didnt realise we had a Japan one now.....


You have to laugh at Nelson Piquet Sr's attack on Renault and Alonso with his claim that Alonso pulled the strings at the team. No different to what other great drivers have done, by getting a team to revolve around them notably Schumacher at Ferrari and Senna post Prost at McLaren. and most notably at all by a certain Mr Piquet during his time at Brabham and including 2 of his 3 world championship years.....

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/152877/...ore_pulled_strings_at_renault.html



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User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1586 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4017 times:

Hopefully the Force Indias will be back on the pace at Suzuka, it should suit them more than Singapore.

User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 7):
You have to laugh at Nelson Piquet Sr's attack on Renault

He should stop attacking Renault. In 1983, he won the WDC with non-authorized petrol. And if Renault had protested (which they did not do because they did not want to win by the decision of marshalls), Renault and Prost would have been World Champions.

So please Nelson, don't forget that you owe one of your World Title thanks to the fair-play of Renault.

[Edited 2009-09-29 04:25:06]


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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Looks as if Williams are looking at Barrichello for 2010.
So the 2010 grid is looking like

McLaren:
Hamilton
Raikkonen

Brawn:
Button
Rosberg

Ferrari:
Massa
Alonso

Williams:
Barrichello
Hulkenburg

Renault:
Kubica
Grojean


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4963 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3935 times:



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 10):
McLaren:
Hamilton
Raikkonen

if the car will be good, they are looking forward to a very competetive season. LH and Kimi is a scary competition for the rest. Despite a few negatives, I'll miss Kimi in Ferrari.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 10):
Brawn:
Button
Rosberg

Not bad, but I like Barrichello better

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 10):
Ferrari:
Massa
Alonso

Well, I've said it a million times, I would have preferred Ferrari to get someone else, but since it's Alonso at the end, I hope there are no wierd things going on and that he focuses on what he does best; racing. That said, I hope the team gives equal treatment to both drivers, and that Massa will win the WDC. As in Mclaren, if the car is good, Ferrari will be very tough to beat with these drivers.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 10):
Williams:
Barrichello
Hulkenburg

Rubens, stay at Brawn!

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 10):
Renault:
Kubica
Grojean

Will they even be in the grid next season?



Carp aunque ganes o pierdas ...
User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79061
And Here it is...Alonso confirmed by Ferrari to replace Kimi.
3 year deal.

Now lets see everything roll through...I'll be honest I like Heikki a lot, but he just doesn't drive as brilliantly as I wished he did. I would have loved to see Nico Rosberg in the McLaren, that would have been fantastic...I hope that Lewis and Kimi dominate next year. It would be really fun to see a 3 way battle between the Ferraris, McLaren and Brawn.

P.S. A Really cool article on BBC on why the Alonso move could bring about another Schumi/Hakinnen-esqe era.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewben...lonso_to_ferrari_could_herald.html

[Edited 2009-09-30 08:31:25]

User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4963 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3933 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 12):
It would be really fun to see a 3 way battle between the Ferraris, McLaren and Brawn

 checkmark   checkmark   checkmark 

and let me add that it would be nice to see a season where the main discussions will rest on the driving and not at all the other ugly stuff that's been happening the last couple fo years.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3924 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 12):
And Here it is...Alonso confirmed by Ferrari to replace Kimi.
3 year deal.

Good for Ferrari. To me, he is clearly the best driver in F1 at the moment.

Damn, I'll have to support Ferrari for the next 3 years...  grumpy   grumpy 



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3920 times:



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 14):
Damn, I'll have to support Ferrari for the next 3 years...

Don't you dare take the Madrista's side? (I'm looking at you EZEIZA!!!)

Go Barca!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79063
Interesting to note McLaren coming out quickly to rubbish rumours that Kimi is going to be the second driver in 2010.


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3920 times:



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 14):
Damn, I'll have to support Ferrari for the next 3 years

hahaha....you poor thing!

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 12):
Alonso confirmed by Ferrari to replace Kimi.

And Kimi just became even more filthy ritch! Bastard! Big grin

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 12):
I hope that Lewis and Kimi dominate next year

Before it's official, I will not believe that Kimi will go to Mclaren. Strange things have happened before in this sport.
Well, if he goes back to Mclaren he will still be at a top team, and not doing what D. Hill did.

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Sudden



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4963 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3918 times:



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 14):
Damn, I'll have to support Ferrari for the next 3 years...

you'll be a happy person, belive me Big grin

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 15):
Don't you dare take the Madrista's side? (I'm looking at you EZEIZA!!!)

First step Ferrari ... it's only a matter of time before his football tam chamges as well
 cheeky 

Quoting Sudden (Reply 16):
Well, if he goes back to Mclaren he will still be at a top team, and not doing what D. Hill did.

 checkmark   checkmark 



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3911 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 15):
Don't you dare take the Madrista's side?



Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 17):
it's only a matter of time before his football tam chamges as well

There are two things that will never change: 1) my love for Barça, 2) my hate for Madrid  Wink

Quoting Sudden (Reply 16):
hahaha....you poor thing!

 Big grin

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 17):
you'll be a happy person, belive me

Dunno, I'll just support the driver, not the team.



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User currently offlineT1210s From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

not very happy i cant stand alonso now I'm going to split with who to support massa at Ferrari and kimi at mclaren damn  banghead   scratchchin 


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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3907 times:



Quoting T1210s (Reply 19):
not very happy i cant stand alonso now I'm going to split with who to support massa at Ferrari and kimi at mclaren damn

I agree with you, but probably for another reason.
Mine would be that I think Massa and Alonso will cause headlines because both of them will be arguing like 2 teenage brats who's having their period for the first time.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

gee, am I the only one here who like Alonso?!!  Wow!  Wow!

 cry 



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5608 posts, RR: 45
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3900 times:
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Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 11):
I hope the team gives equal treatment to both drivers,

Is there anyone that thinks for one minute that Alonso would be happy with that?
He will try to force his #1 position likely with a negative outcome, Massa seems much loved at the Scuderia, and it will be 2007 all over again!



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User currently offlineT1210s From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

also have to factor schumi into the equation who after all retired to save massa


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

My parents ain't gonna like the fact that Alonso is going to Ferrari.

25 Aerobalance : Alonso is a great race driver and fantastic at helping to develop a car, however, his diplomacy skills are lacking.... The combination of Fisi as tes
26 Sudden : You mean that Massa will not be the faster of the 2 with equal cars!? In 2007 Massa had been with Ferrari for a 1 (or was it 2 even) year(2) but Kimi
27 T1210s : true or not he has alot of respect for massa and alot of power at ferrari and he wont let massa stand for any crap from alonso. also i'll guarantee n
28 EZEIZA : One didn't need the other ... loving Barca = hating Madrid, ande vice-versa Then try to watch the races on Spanish tv .. they tend to make the viewer
29 ScrubbsYWG : oh boy, i dont know what to think. For some reason, i never thought alonso would join ferrari until 2011. I did not think ferrari would get rid of kim
30 Bill142 : I liked Alonso when he was in a Minardi and when he was at McLaren. With any luck Alonso learnt a valuable lesson from the experience at McLaren. It
31 CXB77L : I'd much rather have Rosberg and Hulkenberg. Shame Sir Frank couldn't persuade him to stay at Williams. Rosberg is a future star, while Barrichello i
32 CXB77L : I agree. Two world champions in the same team. I hope it doesn't become another Senna v Prost or Hamilton v Alonso saga, and that these two undeniabl
33 Post contains links Bill142 : According to this article which is more about MotoGP, Marlboro had to allow Raikkonen to be released from his contract. http://www.smh.com.au/news/spo
34 StealthZ : Interesting article, even more interesting is how much influence Marlboro wield in two sports that do not allow tobacco advertising. Not sure who is
35 Springbok747 : Yeah. But actually, you can't blame them. There is no reference to tobacco or cigarettes anywhere..and the team are referred to as 'Scuderia Ferrari'
36 MadameConcorde : Kimi and Hammy both racing for McLaren will be quite interesting. Hammy is young and energetic and motivated, all chances are that he will do a better
37 Waterpolodan : Well, now we know we can't really give Alonso credit for one of those wins, all thanks for that go to Briatore's "plan". Don't hate on Massa, he was
38 Sudden : No worries there. I can though sometime feel that he's overrated. He sure is good (otherwise he wouldn't drive for Ferrari). Just as you wrote, he ha
39 GrahamHill : THANK YOU!!!! At least I'm not the only one thinking that Massa is cry-baby!! Alghouth I have to say he improved lately.
40 Sudden : Thank you!? You paid me to write that. Serious though, I have always felt that Massa likes to be the victime, but I hope that he has grown out of it.
41 Post contains links BlueElephant : Briatore's gone...don't know if he'd still get that. I'm not a fan of Ferrari as a team, but I respect Massa a lot. Just like Grahamhill is thinking
42 Codeshare : Now why is everyone pushing Kubica to Renault ? Id rather see him in McLaren or Brawn. Lewis or Jenson wouldnt mind. Im not sure about Williams, neith
43 Post contains links BlueElephant : Oh, and to those who need a refresher. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRe-8jKCsvc A lap around Suzuka with some bloke named Michael
44 EZEIZA : To be honest they are both cry babies, and both have improved. But In the cry baby ranking, no one beats Alonso's 2007 tears.
45 GrahamHill : Well, he came to McLaren thinking he would be the #1 driver (which is logical, considering he was the reigning two times world champion and Hamilton
46 Sudden : The Mclaren management also came out saying that they should have listened more to Alonso while he was driving for them, but didn't, and due to this
47 Post contains links StealthZ : I felt that as well but had been thinking he had grown out of it... seems not- http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79108 Seems the needling a
48 Tiger119 : - It is currently 02:00 (well, a few ticks shy) here EDT (same as New York City) and SpeedTV is showing Formula One (I assume practice). They were ta
49 Sudden : Oh my, this was a year ago and now he starts to complain!? With the Renault crashgate Massa found a way to cover up his OWN major screw up in the pit
50 Post contains links Bill142 : Rumour has it that all has been agreed to with Renault and he has to sign on the line. Crashgate merely delayed that. But new reports have him joinin
51 StealthZ : That would be cockups Massa tends to forget that if he/team messed up one less pitstop during the year the Singapore result would not matter. But the
52 Bill142 : What he also doesn't seem to realise is that if Alonso were stripped of his win, he would still have lost the championship. He seems to be brining in
53 GrahamHill : There you go. And I said he improved, but apparently not... Seriously, do you think he is less a cry-baby than Alonso? I don't think so. Alonso is fa
54 EZEIZA : Fair enough, but once he realized managment did not handle the situation properly did he have to cry in front of everyone every day? Alonso is still
55 MadameConcorde : I am really mixed up with the live timings of the Japanese GP in my time zone. I must re-think it so I don't miss out. I am not sure how many channels
56 GrahamHill : First it was not "every day" and second you should ask the question directly to him I guess I'll never agree with you, so I'll end this discussion he
57 BlueElephant : It would have been Live--Speed does provide live broadcasts, as this is in Japan we're looking at roughly 13 hour time differential. So what you were
58 Post contains links Scbriml : Times as per BBC's website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...t/formula_one/calendar/default.stm (all times UK, so add one hour for Europe) Satu
59 MadameConcorde : Thank you very much for this. I don't want to miss out so it is really helpful.
60 EZEIZA : wait, you are saying you are not Fernando Alonso? no discussion, just debate and luckily, next season we will be both supporting the same guy so the
61 Sudden : You could always agree to disagree. I do actually agree with you, and I stick with my opinion about Massa being a big child. He's fast alright, but i
62 GrahamHill : I wish! Yes, but sterile debate so I'm out. And yes, I'll keep on supporting Alonso next year.
63 Codeshare : Rumour has it Kubica or Kimi to Toyota, interesting line-up, but let's not forget Glock. However during the season there were a few mistakes made duri
64 Tiger119 : - So will qualifying that starts in 20 minutes be taped delayed? SpeedTV is broadcasted a taped program about Formula One so maybe they will show it
65 Andz : Qualifying is live here and session 2 has just been red flagged due to Alguersari destroying his car in a high speed head on with the tyre wall. He is
66 BlueElephant : Speed TV is showing everything live, its just delayed by about 5-10 minutes. The Race is live tomorrow morning, with ZERO tape delay.[Edited 2009-10-
67 BlueElephant : Another Red Flag, this time its Timo Glock into the wall...He also looks to be ok. Some high speed accidents this morning...Webber in the morning, and
68 Andz : If it is delayed by one minute it's not live. Why the delay anyway?
69 BlueElephant : I'm not sure actually...Speed happens to play out Qualifying over 1.5 hours, when in reality Qualifying is actually 1 hour in total time. they have t
70 MadameConcorde : Are Qualifyings done with? The heck I missed it!!!! This time lag with the race in Japan really confuses me!!! It is barely 8.00 AM here. I was up at
71 Signol : So they can bleep out any swearing? Not that it's likely in the sport, but if they happen to be broadcasting driver radio comms when he hits the tyre
72 MadameConcorde : Ok I have the live feed from a Japanese cast with comments in Portuguese, they talk more about Rio winning the Olympics than aboutu the drivers on the
73 Andz : Not yet, but they are running late with 2 red flags and now another crash right at the end of session 2. Alonso will start 12th. Just heard that Gloc
74 MadameConcorde : Suzuka is not an easy track. Sorry for Timo I hope he is OK. Heikki just hit the wall really hard. I hope he is OK too.
75 Andz : Now Kovalainen has crashed in Q3 and another red flag.
76 BlueElephant : and there goes Heikki, Red Flag #3... Heikki is ok, but this leaves a very interesting Q3....if this is any indication of things to come, Tomorrow cou
77 MadameConcorde : PA said Heikki is fine after his crash. This is what counts the most. Glock has a leg injury. 1 minute to go.
78 Cpd : Don't go to Williams.. They'll never win a race. On the flip side, Williams appears to be a formerly quick team that might come close to getting a po
79 MadameConcorde : 6 minutes not 1. Hard to understand Portuguese some times. So far Hammy is in second place. Hope he can be in pole. We shall see.
80 Andz : Vettel, Trulli, Hamilton, Sutil, Barichello, Heudfeld, Button, Raikkonen
81 MadameConcorde : 1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull 2 Italy J Trulli Toyota 3 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren I feel it is going to be a great race tomorrow. One McLaren is
82 Bill142 : Fairly wild qualifying session with quite a few not being able to keep it on the track. Should make for an interesting race with Button being behind h
83 Tiger119 : - Now that you mention that, SpeedTV has been doing that all year long. - I bet there will be a lot of fan support for the Toyota team. Good luck to
84 StealthZ : Don't think Frank is that silly, seems he made the right choice. Doesn't matter whether BMW had bought into Sauber or Williams, the same bean counter
85 Sudden : I really don't think this will happen as Kimi has said that he is only interested in a top team. Toyota is kind of rest of the best, now and then. Fi
86 Post contains images Cpd : Absolutely right.   And where is Peter Sauber these days? The man of the legendary team that dominated sports-car racing with those thundering twin-
87 Post contains links StealthZ : You didn't miss much...NOT No Webber, multiple red flags, lots of interupted laps This probably sums it up better than I could write... http://www.au
88 Codeshare : Sure thing is Lewis will use the KERS button at the start. We'll see the weights listed, but I think Vettel was running lighter then Brawns and McLare
89 StealthZ : From Autosport's Jonathan Noble- "Five place grid penalties for Button, Barrichello, Alonso, Sutil and Buemi (who also gets a reprimand)" Seems the of
90 MadameConcorde : Hammy and Vettel are the future of F1. Forget Alonso and Kimi. For the World Title this year I would prefer to see Rubens rather than Button. We will
91 Codeshare : I'd like to see Jenson win it, but wouldn't mind Rubens also. Vettel can wait. Right decision, Alonso can feel justice has been done LOL. Where's Nels
92 Codeshare : Here are the numbers: (from f1.com) 1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 658.5kg 2. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 655.5 3. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 656 4. Nick Heid
93 EZEIZA : .. and that's when I started disliking Alonso. I know it's not his fault that the press is like this, but the commentators in Spain were unbearably p
94 CXB77L : No way. BMW were ever going to be in F1 if it suits them. As it stands, they're pulling out of F1 at the end of the year, and I for one am glad that
95 Sudden : Well done to the stewards for this. Will be interesting to see what Alonso will say about this. Seriously, Heikki didn't earn this position, and now
96 Codeshare : Did I write Heikki, oh yes, I made a mistake, he was in Q3 after all. He wasn't the best in Renault also, so maybe Toyota for him? KS/codeshare
97 Bill142 : Doubt it will be Toyota for Heikki. They're looking at a "top line" driver pairing for next season. They'll probably offer big money to Raikkonen and
98 Post contains links Bill142 : Glock is out of the race with an injured leg sustained in yesterdays crash. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79222
99 MadameConcorde : knock knock... who's there? I am on Rai Uno live from Suzuka half asleep... p2p Livecast is excellent I hope it will not break down all through the ra
100 EZEIZA : Im perfectly awake ... 1.33 am at the moment. Perfect race night for me I'd love to have Raiuno, but here in Argentina we only get Rai international a
101 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Good morning EZEIZA, it is 6.45 here now, still dark I just saw a cruise ship heading into Monaco harbour, they are a ibt early. The link for p2p to
102 EZEIZA : Good morning to you too Madame C Thanks for the link. I know rojadirecta, but as you say it's not that reliable, and quite honestly I prefer to be lyi
103 Andz : We have the live coverage with the British commentators, and unlike the service in the UK (I believe) we have no commercial breaks![Edited 2009-10-03
104 MadameConcorde : I totally depend on P2P as I have no TV. Looks like this feed is excellent. Hope it will be like this all the while during the whole race. Alesi? I h
105 Bill142 : BBC donr have commercail breaks. its stupid here they cut mid sentence to a commercail break as we get the bbc feed.
106 MadameConcorde : Lewis Hamilton on BBC One: "I have a pretty good starting spot here, there is a lot of drag down to the first corner, we have a lot of road to get up
107 MadameConcorde : Genius start by Hammy passing Trulli. I wonder if he is heavy or light and what lap he will refuel if him or Vettel will do the first pit stop?
108 StealthZ : What short sighted dickhead let that wonderful opportunity slip by... a Japanese driver getting a surprise chance to race a "Japanese" car in the Jap
109 MadameConcorde : Hammy did Genius with KERS. Button is cauliflower in 10th position. Kimi is 5th. The Italian commentators are raving with Alonso joining Ferrari. Mass
110 Signol : This year F1 is back on the BBC so no ads It was true up until last year, when ITV had the rights. signol
111 MadameConcorde : Hammy went to pit. I hope he is gone heavy now so he can pick up more distance. Trulli will also pit it seems.
112 MadameConcorde : Good job on Trulli exiting the pit stop. This was brilliant, he re-gained his second place. Now let's wait and see what happens. Button is still cauli
113 MadameConcorde : Safety car Alguersuari messed up!! Broke the car in the wall and tyre went off.......
114 EZEIZA : I was about to say how boring this race was, with the only exciting moments happening during the pit stops, when the sc is out! Interesting 8 final la
115 MadameConcorde : Yep seems to be a problem there I hope engineers can fix it. Hammy doing well for a first at Suzuka. I believe he will be on the podium. Button cauli
116 Andz : Okay that's where I got it from. I remember the commentary team going silent for periods during the race! Big off there for Alguersari but he looks o
117 BlueElephant : Well driven by Vettel, great strategy by Toyota to gain position back from Hamilton, Great move by Kovalainen on Fisichella in the Pits, Congrats to S
118 Springbok747 : Good job by Vettel...still keeping his title hopes alive! Great job by Kimi to get some valuable points. Looks like Fisi and Kovalianen both need to g
119 EZEIZA : I hoped for some excitment in the final laps but NOTHING happened, as during 99% of the race. But Vettel was excellent. Did not give anyone else a cha
120 MadameConcorde : 1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull 2 Italy J Trulli Toyota 3 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren Top scale race by Vettel. The Japanese must be happy to see Toy
121 Andz : Well now that that is out of the way don't forget there is MotoGP and Superbikes on today as well!
122 Bill142 : Guess this throws up the championship a fair bit. If Brawn continues this form slump and don't get some decnt results in the next two races, and Vette
123 MadameConcorde : From the BBCsports site what the drivers said post-race: Jenson Button on BBC Radio 5 live: "Rosberg gained about four seconds on us under the safety
124 Sudden : Now we just need to wait and see if Rosberg will get a 25 second penalty for speeding while the SC was out, which will see Brawn GP win the WCC title.
125 Cpd : Oh how I know that feeling. Great race by Vettel, otherwise - at least Brawn got some points. Hammy at least showed what the McLaren was like without
126 MadameConcorde : Are the FIA going to take KERS out from all cars in 2010?
127 CXB77L : Brilliant drive by Vettel, leading from start to finish. Sure, it wasn't the most memorable race, but this has certainly thrown the championship conte
128 StealthZ : No, KERS is still allowed as per the 2010 Tech Regs published 19/08/09* I believe though that FOTA have agreed not to run KERS in 2010. Cheers * the
129 T1210s : From the FIA The Race Director reported to the Stewards that Car No 16, Nico Rosberg exceeded the time delta from when the "Safety Deployed" message w
130 Post contains links Bill142 : All, here are some of my pictures from the Singapore GP. http://www.flickr.com/photos/29319716@N07/sets/72157622519172664/
131 Sudden : Great stuff! "Thanks for sharing" Aim for the sky! Sudden
132 GrahamHill : Congratulations to Vettel! It was another boring GP and apart from a couple of overtakes, nothing was exciting... I can't wait to see the end of the s
133 EZEIZA : Nice!!!
134 Post contains links GrahamHill : Robert Kubica is officially a Renault driver for the 2010 season: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79319 According to the French press, he
135 Post contains links Cornish : hmmm Raikkonen to Red Bull with Webber shifting to Torro Rosso. Funnier things have been known to happen..... http://www.crash.net/f1/news/153283/...1
136 Sudden : Good for him as he deserves to stay in F1. On the other hand, this means that Renault already has a new main sponsor for 2010.(?) Kimi going to RBR!?
137 Bill142 : Given that ING declared it's intentions not to renew its contract earlier in the season, I expect that Renault has someone lined up and probably had
138 Sudden : I basically mean that every year lately the rest of the seats on the grid are being allocated first after that Alonso has made his move official. Whe
139 GrahamHill : Normal, he's the king! The king first, the subjects after
140 Cpd : I'd put money on Webber over Kimi actually. He's not slow - and he doesn't throw the car about wildly. Kimi on the other hand can be asleep in some r
141 Cornish : Actually although not a huge fan I'd also say Webber is a better team mate for Vettel than Kimi would be. Webber is a good quick solid No.2. quick en
142 Sudden : That will most likely not happen, as Kimi has clearly stated that he will only join a top team. Actually, Kimi and Sebastian are very good friends. S
143 Cpd : But I forgot and just realised that McLaren next year doesn't have its favoured status from Mercedes anymore does it? Rumours say that was all about
144 Cornish : I'll disagree with you on that one - I do think he's a quick No.2 - like a Heidfeld or a Trulli, but not an out and out No.1 for one of the real top
145 CXB77L : I really can't see Raikkonen going to Toro Rosso. I think he'd rather retire than to drive for a team that rarely ever gets a podium finish, let alon
146 Sudden : Yep. Check the interview with Martin Whitmarsh in F1.com and read what he says about Raikkonen. I can't really see that happen as Raikkonen doesn't c
147 Bill142 : The amount that he's there gives you the impression that he's micro managing Lewis' career. Perhaps he is just a supportive father?
148 Sudden : He is actually Lewis manager flat out. But I can't see why he needs to hang out in the garage every race! Aim for the sky! Sudden
149 EZEIZA : And especially, why the TV has to show him there every sinlge time. Just like (to a lesser extent) it happened with Massa's father. At least LH has a
150 GrahamHill : I share the same point of view as Sudden concerning Hamilton's father. I don't know why, but his presence annoys me. It's probably his attitude that m
151 Codeshare : Yep, Kubica to Renault, I hope this will turn out good for him. After all, while still Benetton or the precrashgate-era, they always won two back-to-b
152 MadameConcorde : I was away to a boat show in Italy. Could some one please summarize all the drivers changes for the next season as to who is moving where? This would
153 Sudden : We basically don't know more then you do MadameC, but so far we know that Alonso is going to Ferrari, Kubica to Renault, Vettel stays with RBR, me goi
154 MadameConcorde : Oh, OK then. Thank you for providing the names you already have. Remember to let us know about your new car after you have made up your mind and boug
155 Sudden : Will do, and it's between getting what I already had (a lady decided to drive in to the side of it), or something else. It would, but on the other ha
156 Codeshare : So far (at least I think): Ferrari: Alonso, Massa McLaren: Hammy + ? Renault: Kubica + ? RBR: Vettel, Webber (in comes Kimi maybe?) Williams: ? Brawn:
157 CXB77L : I think we can safely say that Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull, Williams, Toyota and Brawn all have their driver lineups all but sorted. Ferrari: Alonso (c
158 Sudden : Why not bring back Sato (don't hyperventilate now MadameC)? I think he would be a great asset for one of the new teams, for example. Aim for the sky!
159 Post contains links GrahamHill : According the Auto-Hebdo, the French motorsports weekly, our beloved friend Bernie Ecclestone (78 years-old and 1,50 meters hands up) has a new girlfr
160 Codeshare : According to a French paper, Kubica has an interesting point in his contract: apparently if Renault don't finish in the top 3 in the constructors' sta
161 Post contains links Bill142 : In actual F1 news, it has been discovered Timo Glock suffered a cracked vertebra in his incident in Japan. this is in addition to the cut he received
162 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I have seen more than one of these Italian b*tches catching these older men with money...   As to Taku I doubt he will be back on the F1 racing trac
163 Post contains links Scbriml : Ferrari announce that Massa will not return in 2009. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8301060.stm While I sincerely hope that Ma
164 MadameConcorde : It makes sense. He had a serious accident and he needs time to rest and fully recover. F1 geek friend in Monaco said this to me a couple of weeks ago
165 GrahamHill : It does indeed. As Scbriml said, Ferrari's season is over, so I would not see the point to put Massa back on the car (especially because he won't be
166 Sudden : One can wonder if his dream included seeing Raikkonen, and former employer, disappear in the distance. This is what I have been saying all along. Mas
167 GrahamHill : Well, I don't think he really cares. That was the only opportunity he had to drive a red car. I guess for him the rest does not matter. Clearly this
168 Sudden : True indeed, but Ferrari brought him on board to secure 3rd place, and Ferrari even said that they expected Fisi to be in the points. In his defense,
169 GrahamHill : Yeah, piece of cake! After all, even Nikki Lauda said a monkey could drive modern F1s
170 Post contains links GrahamHill : According to the Brazilian press, relayed by the French one, Barichello signed a contract with Williams: http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule1/breve...richel
171 Sudden : That would come as a surprise, to me. I think Brawn has a good line-up as it is and they seem to get along pretty well too. But maybe he is to swap s
172 Cpd : Williams is paying big money to Barrichello, with nice bonuses too. Still, it strikes me as a bit strange to be bailing out of Brawn. That line up se
173 GrahamHill : This suprises me as well. They lost RBS and Air Asia, they struggle to get a decent engine (they will probably end up with the Cosworth) and they sti
174 StealthZ : Or perhaps being co-operative and helping get a German driver into Brawn there may be some assistance with engines as well.
175 Codeshare : Williams is a Forumla 1 trademark like Ferrari or McLaren, so Frank may have somethink up his sleeve. Maybe some Brazilian company. KS/codeshare
176 Sudden : I can see the carneval babes dancing on the grid. Aim for the sky! Sudden
177 Post contains links LTU932 : http://www.sport1.de/de/formel1/formel1_fahrer/artikel_162087.html (German only) According to this article, Felipe Massa has been fully cleared for te
178 Sudden : And according to F1.com Ferrari is not letting him race this season even though he might be ready. I guess they can make more use of him with develop
179 LTU932 : They're definitely cautious. Even if he's fully recovered, he may be now better useful helping in the development of the new car.
180 Post contains links Bill142 : Williams announces split with Toyota http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79418 My guess is Renault engines next season.
181 GrahamHill : I heard eiher Cosworth or Renault. If they get the Renault, they won't lose too much compare to the Toyota. On the other hand, if they get the Coswor
182 Bill142 : They used cosworth engines prior to toyota and it didn't go to well. I'm expecting Renault.
183 GrahamHill : It will also be a matter of money. I don't know what will be their next sponsor. If they don't get much money, maybe they'll get the Cosworth as a te
184 CXB77L : I'd love to see the Williams Renault combination again. It would bring back memories of their glory days in the 1990s!
185 StealthZ : I'm not up with the latest at Cosworth. Certainly in the 2006 20,000+ RPM "Manufacturer Arms race' engine world Cosworth struggled. In an 18,000 RPM
186 Post contains links GrahamHill : Since the Brazilian GP is taking place in a couple of days, I have created a new thread: F1 2009: Brazilian GP (by GrahamHill Oct 14 2009 in Non Aviat
187 Post contains links MadameConcorde : From Hammy's blog http://www.f1hamilton.net/mclaren-si...re-mission-control-video-2009.html Another behind-the-scenes video with Head of McLaren Vehic
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