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Paranormal...several Questions.  
User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7444 posts, RR: 62
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1556 times:
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1. Do you believe in the paranormal?

2. What led you to hold this belief in the paranormal?

3. If you DO believe in the paranormal, can you be an atheist as well? Agnostic yes, but an atheist?!

Food for thought. What say you?


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

1. No.

2. N/A

3. I believe in God, so draw your own conclusions.



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User currently offlineForce13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

1. Yes.

2. Seeing a what I believe to be ghosts.

3. I am an athiest. Spooky, huh? Big grin



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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1499 times:

1. No

2. Never seen anything paranormal and I'm sure I never will. Everything has an explanation.

3. I'd say no, but:

Quoting Force13 (Reply 2):
3. I am an athiest. Spooky, huh? Big grin

Proves me wrong


User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

1. Im 50/50

2.
a. Ornaments on my grandparents fire place flying across the room when I was a kid. No one near by.
b. My nephew when he was just starting to talk would look in the corner of the room and mumble. He once said a name (cant recall what) and it freaked my mum out, it was her great granddads name who had died years ago.

3. Dunno what to put so will put this  Smile


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7444 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1470 times:
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Quoting Force13 (Reply 2):
1. Yes.

2. Seeing a what I believe to be ghosts.

3. I am an athiest. Spooky, huh? 

Perfect! Just the answer I hoped to see. Spooky? Unique perhaps!
I mean, I find it interesting you can believe in one and not the other!



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

I am what you term a "sensitive". I frequently get "touched" by these spirits perhaps in an attempt to communicate and I got this from my mother, who is also displays similar abilities. When I was younger, I could actually see these beings but as I grew older I was only able to feel and sometimes hear them.

It is not something you get used to because it still scares the shit out of me from time to time. But I guess I deal with it.

On a recent trip down under to Adelaide, I experienced a haunted hotel as detailed in this trip report.

The skeptics really find it hard to believe such things exists but just because you do not feel it, it doesn't mean it isn't there.



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1400 times:



Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
1. Do you believe in the paranormal?

Yes, in that I believe there are all sorts of things in this world which we don't understand and have not yet been explained or verified by science.

Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
2. What led you to hold this belief in the paranormal?

Same as Ryanair!!!-

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 6):
I am what you term a "sensitive". I frequently get "touched" by these spirits perhaps in an attempt to communicate and I got this from my mother, who is also displays similar abilities.

... except I seem to have inherited this from my maternal grandmother rather than from my mother.

Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
3. If you DO believe in the paranormal, can you be an atheist as well? Agnostic yes, but an atheist?!

Interesting question. I'm more atheist than anything else, and I do believe that the things I've experienced can and eventually will be explained and quantified in a scientific manner, so I suppose atheism and a belief in the "paranormal" are not mutually exclusive concepts.



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User currently offlineAlexEU From Nauru, joined Oct 2007, 1824 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

It depends on what you assume is paranormal. I don´t believe in aliens and UFO´s.

User currently offlineNws2002 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

1) Yes

2) More of a feeling than anything else. I've always felt like there were spirits around, both good and bad, and that they've helped to guide my intuition. I've never seen physical shapes or evidence of them though.

3) Not sure how to answer this one because I'm not an atheist. I realize that atheism doesn't have a guidebook, but I've always thought atheist just didn't believe in a godlike figure. That doesn't mean they can't believe in echoes or spirits.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

I believe in God ......as faith.
I believe & have seen miracles [Amazing recoveries] occur.
I have not seen a paranormal situation so don't believe it.

regds
MEL.



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User currently offlineAirCatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 574 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

If you had brought today's science and technology to the stone age, the cavemen would have thought it was paranormal.

User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8625 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1318 times:
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Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
1. Do you believe in the paranormal?

It depends exactly what you mean by paranormal ?


If you mean do I believe in ghosts , god , the tooth fairy and other things like those then the answer is 'no' .

If you mean do I believe that there are many things out there which we cant explain based on current levels of knowledge then my answer would be 'yes' .


ooops , I forgot the other two questions

Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
2. What led you to hold this belief in the paranormal?

46 years on this planet experiencing weirdness . Bearing in mind that I am not entirely clear exactly what you mean when you use the term paranormal.

Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
3. If you DO believe in the paranormal, can you be an atheist as well? Agnostic yes, but an atheist?!

Yes, I am an atheist .

[Edited 2009-10-01 04:33:32]


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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7444 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1270 times:
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Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 6):
I am what you term a "sensitive". I frequently get "touched" by these spirits perhaps in an attempt to communicate and I got this from my mother,

It is not something you get used to because it still scares the shit out of me from time to time.
On a recent trip down under to Adelaide, I experienced a haunted hotel as detailed in this trip report.

The skeptics really find it hard to believe such things exists but just because you do not feel it, it doesn't mean it isn't there.

WOW. I'll have to view that TR later. Pretty amazing. I know some folks in our family feel they are used as mediums. I personally don;t but I do have a 6th sense of sorts. Unfortunately, I haven't learned how to tap into it.

Quoting TSS (Reply 7):
so I suppose atheism and a belief in the "paranormal" are not mutually exclusive concepts.

Well that is the premise of the discussion. I find it interesting that someone can be an atheist but holds some belief in the paranormal, like ghosts, spirits, etc.

Quoting AirCatalonia (Reply 11):
If you had brought today's science and technology to the stone age, the cavemen would have thought it was paranormal.

Quote of the week!



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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1262 times:



Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
1. Do you believe in the paranormal?

2. What led you to hold this belief in the paranormal?

3. If you DO believe in the paranormal, can you be an atheist as well? Agnostic yes, but an atheist?!

1. Not at all.

2. k.A.

3. k.A., I’m nontheist.


User currently offlineDesertjets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7811 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1262 times:



Quoting TSS (Reply 7):
Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
1. Do you believe in the paranormal?

Yes, in that I believe there are all sorts of things in this world which we don't understand and have not yet been explained or verified by science.

Except I would answer the question no. If you look back into history there were a lot of phenomenon/things/stuff/whatever that humanities knowledge of the time did not understand and/or comprehend. A lot of that got lumped into the realm of the paranormal. As our knowledge of the world around us has evolved many of these questions have been answered. Now I will be the first to acknowledge that humanities knowledge of the world/universe is pretty small.... this isn't a poor reflection upon the scientific community, but rather a practical limitation based on the pure vastness/infiniteness of our world.

With all that said I am open to the idea that what people describe as ghosts/spirits are real. But I do not personally believe as such.



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1249 times:



Quoting Desertjets (Reply 15):
I am open to the idea that what people describe as ghosts/spirits are real. But I do not personally believe as such.

No problem. You're very much in the majority in your beliefs (or lack thereof).  bigthumbsup 

Hollywood has made absurd amounts of money over-dramatizing paranormal encounters of every variety, and this tends to discount the believability of actual paranormal events.



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User currently offlineSkysurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1137 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1147 times:



Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
1. Do you believe in the paranormal?

Yes

2. What led you to hold this belief in the paranormal?

Seeing 4 ghosts up close and personal. Once in a kitchen, twice at work and once at a friends house...all in broad daylight. Also, i've heard footsteps, knocking and doors slamming shut in a house only occupied by myself.

3. If you DO believe in the paranormal, can you be an atheist as well? Agnostic yes, but an atheist?!

Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to believe in religion to see ghosts/spirits....personally i belive the two aren't interconnected.

Cheers

Stu



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1131 times:



Quoting TSS (Reply 16):

Hollywood has made absurd amounts of money over-dramatizing paranormal encounters of every variety, and this tends to discount the believability of actual paranormal events.

Ain't that the truth - case in point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amityville_Horror

And possibly the most disturbing mainstream film ever:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exorcist_(film)



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User currently offlinePawsleykat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1054 times:

1. Yes, I do

2. Many things;
* Hearing footsteps throughout the house when I was in on my own, or hearing them upstairs when everyone was downstairs
* Feeling a presence behind me when I know no-one was in the room with me
* Seeing things out of the corner of my eye when looking in the mirror
* Room temperature suddenly rising or falling
* TV and other electrical devices flickering on and off/ changing channel when the remote was sitting on the table/bedside cabinet

3. I'm agnostic. I believe there was a God, a long long time ago.

JG  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineWindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2752 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

Yes

Experiences of my Aunt and Uncles house as a kid that had an entity living in it. They lived in the house for years and even gave it a name. Finally it was to much for them and they sold the house and moved. Also have had personal experiences myself and have had several friends with experiences with something in their home. What are these things I do not know but there is something there.

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