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President Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize  
User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5480 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...10/09/nobel.peace.prize/index.html

Discuss...

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Oh here's my chance to use this joke!!!

So why did the scientist invent the silent door?

Because he wanted to win the No-Bell Peace Prize!!!! Get it? Sounds like Nobel! But it's a double entendre! A pun! A stroke of brilliance! Cause it's like Nobel! Except it's not! It refers to a lack of bell, hence why he invented a door that was silent...cause it had no doorbell! No bell! Or should I say, Nobel! Haha, get it? Get it? Anybody? ...anybody? why is everyone leaving and throwing rotten tomatoes at me? are those crickets I hear!?!

[Edited 2009-10-09 02:39:47]

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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5470 times:

There was a thread about this, but it was deleted for some reason.

I'm still surprised by the decision.

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said. "His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population."

But I get their point.


User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5464 times:



Quoting Racko (Reply 1):
There was a thread about this, but it was deleted for some reason.

Yeah, that one was my fault, my apologies...


User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5448 times:



Quoting Racko (Reply 1):
There was a thread about this, but it was deleted for some reason.

Yeah there was, started by the same person no less. What's up with that?

Anyway, as I said in the previous one, congratulations Mr. President. I'd be wary of Jay-Z if he is in the audience. I thought I used to understand the criteria for the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize but perhaps the criteria have changed. Well a win is a win and he won fair and square.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2314 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5449 times:



Quoting Racko (Reply 1):
I'm still surprised by the decision.

So am I.

It is too early, and I think Obama has been hyped too much.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7623 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5448 times:
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Yup, the world prefers a US president committed to diplomacy over force, only resorting to the latter when truly necessary. Finally the US has a president they can truly be proud of, something that has been absent for quite some time now. Congratulations Mr President.

Quoting Airport (Thread starter):

So why did the scientist invent the silent door?

Because he wanted to win the No-Bell Peace Prize!!!!

That 'joke' is the absolute worst.



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User currently offlineTravelExec From Spain, joined Dec 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5448 times:

I am a big fan of the attempts being made by the Obama administration to bring dialogue back into international diplomacy, and to get nations to remove the vocabulary of anger, war, suspicion and hatred from vogue. It is a fresh approach that people around the world applaud.

That said, it would seem to be a bit premature to suggest that it is worthy of the Nobel peace prize - the dialogues he suggests he would like to see happening are not yet all underway, let alone anywhere near yielding any results.


User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5436 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 5):
That 'joke' is the absolute worst.

Hahaha!! I know! I love it! I can't decide what's funnier...the joke itself or the collective groans I usually get from the audience.  silly 


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10991 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5406 times:

Even I think this is premature.

But maybe I'm taking a myopic view of things: has he done much here in the US yet? No. But, the Nobel is a global prize - maybe they feel that his election and speeches have had a profound effect on people outside the United States worthy of recognition.

But I also think that this cheapens the prize. Is Obama Ghandi, or MLK? No, not yet. I think we all hope that he eventually could be compared to them, but he can't yet.



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User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5396 times:



Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 4):
It is too early, and I think Obama has been hyped too much.



Quoting TravelExec (Reply 6):
That said, it would seem to be a bit premature to suggest that it is worthy of the Nobel peace prize

the comittee has expressed that they also try to stimulate certain processes what they have done also in the past (Brandt and Gorbatschow). They rate this one the same I guess.

anyway, congrats to Obama. The world sure can use some less agressive times than under Bush and Cheney...



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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2216 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5394 times:

I'm excited, surprised, elated, proud...  thumbsup  Obama!  highfive   kiss   wave 

Quoting TravelExec (Reply 6):
That said, it would seem to be a bit premature to suggest that it is worthy of the Nobel peace prize - the dialogues he suggests he would like to see happening are not yet all underway, let alone anywhere near yielding any results.

A bit premature? Yes. But very welcome.



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2435 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5394 times:

I'm a bit surprised by this decision also - not if he deserved or not but as I know he was not predicted to be awarded!


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User currently offlineCgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5395 times:

I'm a big supporter of Pres. Obama and I really do want him to succeed but I'm also very surprised by this decision. I think there are many more deserving people who should have been awarded this prestigious prize.


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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5392 times:

Congratulations!

Of course it is early into his presidency, but especially the Peace Prize has frequently been bestowed on people in the midst of their efforts or even early on.

Obama has already exerted a profound influence on the structure of international relations, on how conflicts are being understood and on the attitudes of the people involved.

There can't be any guarantees about the ultimate outcome, but his impact has been quite profound nevertheless.

I'm sure that there were many other worthy candidates, but this decision is still a sound one.


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5385 times:



Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 4):
t is too early, and I think Obama has been hyped too much.

&

Quoting TravelExec (Reply 6):
it would seem to be a bit premature to suggest that it is worthy of the Nobel peace prize - the dialogues he suggests he would like to see happening are not yet all underway, let alone anywhere near yielding any results.

&

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):
Even I think this is premature.

I fully agree to the above statements.
He might have been due to win this prize next year, but now is way too early.

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):
But I also think that this cheapens the prize. Is Obama Ghandi, or MLK? No, not yet. I think we all hope that he eventually could be compared to them, but he can't yet.

Hard to compare Barack Obama today to these two shining figures of history.
Hopefully, history will show that the decision to award him the Nobel Peaze Price was justified.
-HT



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5386 times:

WTF what a joke, if they were going to give Obama the prize they should have at least waited until he had been in office for a couple of years and had actually done something peaceful, I like Obama but this is a joke and seriously debases the Award, even more so than the award to Gore in 07.

I would imagine this will provoke a massive outcry of public opinion and maybe even question the relevance of the award itself.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5370 times:



Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 15):
WTF what a joke, if they were going to give Obama the prize they should have at least waited until he had been in office for a couple of years and had actually done something peaceful, I like Obama but this is a joke and seriously debases the Award, even more so than the award to Gore in 07.

Turning around the relationship to the muslim nations, restarting nuclear disarmament and rebooting the relationship of the USA to the rest of the world in general (and the resulting attitudes abroad) is more than enough to justify it.


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5369 times:



Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 15):
WTF what a joke, if they were going to give Obama the prize they should have at least waited until he had been in office for a couple of years and had actually done something peaceful, I like Obama but this is a joke and seriously debases the Award, even more so than the award to Gore in 07

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What the hell has he done in the short term he's been in office to promote peace? In fact no one had even heard of him two years ago! The Nobel Peace prize is becoming a joke...



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User currently offlineCgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5370 times:



Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 15):
I would imagine this will provoke a massive outcry of public opinion and maybe even question the relevance of the award itself.

I agree with this statement. I can see all the Obama haters going ape over this because no conversative politician has been awared this since Kissinger back in the 70s. Many right wingers are still pissed Reagan was never awarded the price even after he "won" the cold war.

I usually applaud the Nobel Committee for their decisions but this time I'm gonna have to give them a  boggled  this time.



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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2216 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5347 times:



Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 18):
I agree with this statement. I can see all the Obama haters going ape over this because no conversative politician has been awared this since Kissinger back in the 70s. Many right wingers are still pissed Reagan was never awarded the price even after he "won" the cold war.

I usually applaud the Nobel Committee for their decisions but this time I'm gonna have to give them a boggled this time.

No one that is respected in the international community likes conservative US politicians. Ok...3 people.  rotfl 



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5597 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5347 times:

 thumbsdown 

What a freaking joke!

Nobel Peace Prize for appeasment and blaring naivety?

The "peace" part of the Nobel Prize has gotten beyond ridiculous and I only feel sorry for those scientists who have to share the award for their TRUE contribution to mankind with dubious politicians.


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5344 times:



Quoting Klaus (Reply 16):
Turning around the relationship to the muslim nations, restarting nuclear disarmament and rebooting the relationship of the USA to the rest of the world in general (and the resulting attitudes abroad) is more than enough to justify it.

How many of these have actually worked? Whatever happened to actually doing the deed as opposed to just talking about doing something? Obama has done nothing but just talk about doing things. Awarding this prize is premature and just degrades the work done by people and organizations who actually deserve the Peace Prize ( you know Mother Teresa or Médecins Sans Frontières).



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5337 times:



Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 18):
I can see all the Obama haters going ape over this

I'm not sure we can hope for such rapid evolutionary progress...!  mischievous 


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5328 times:



Quoting Klaus (Reply 16):
Turning around the relationship to the muslim nations, restarting nuclear disarmament and rebooting the relationship of the USA to the rest of the world in general (and the resulting attitudes abroad) is more than enough to justify it.

But is it going to last?

I believe it would have much better if the Committee had finally given a posthumous award to Gandhi rather than giving it to a President who is still wet behind the ears.

Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 18):
Many right wingers are still pissed Reagan was never awarded the price even after he "won" the cold war.

If you were going to give it to Regan then you would also have to give it to Gorbachev.


User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5326 times:

I'm a bit surprised he got the Nobel Prize. I'm not sure if he fully deserves it. I like Obama a lot, but his actions for a more peaceful world are far from being achieved or completed (or even started?).


"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
25 Homer71 : Wow, I'm impressed: Obama's apology tour(s) actually worked!
26 Avek00 : I congratulate President Obama for winning the Nobel Peace Prize. If nothing else, the awarding of the prize to Obama implicitly validates part of my
27 Klaus : One never knows. But his impact is already real.
28 JFK69 : Arafat........Obama.......Just a list of winners Seriously, He won this because he isn't bush. We in America could care less about this right now. Don
29 MD-90 : At least Yasser Arafat actually had some impact on world affairs. What has Obama done?
30 Us330 : There are plenty of people in the U.S. who were proud of Bush (and, btw, Obama is actually continuing a fair amount of his foreign policy, especially
31 Dragon6172 : Nominations for the Peace Prize are due by Feb 1st. So if he was nominated by someone not on the selection committee, he had been in office all of two
32 Vega9000 : Congratulations to Mr. Obama, and by extension all Americans that helped elect him. It does sound premature, but I thinks most Americans do not realiz
33 LTBEWR : This is a totally unexpected but very pleasant surprise. Indeed it is statement from the world that under Pres. Obama were are reversing a horrible tr
34 David L : I have to agree with most of the posts above. He may well earn it in the near future but so far it's all talk. I guess the other candidates will be ki
35 Yellowstone : He won't get it, though, since they'll just give it to some biologist. Sorry, it's a bit of a sore spot among chemists that they keep giving our Nobe
36 Baroque : By now any change from the same old seems like an achievement. At least one can say that Obama's methods have a chance as opposed. BTW, do any of tho
37 Commavia : Wow. Suddenly Al Gore's Nobel Prize for his "documentary" actually seems deserved. I mean - at least he had to take his private jet all the way to Los
38 KiwiRob : This has got nothing to do with the world, the decision was made by the Nobel Committee who are made up of ex politions from the various political pa
39 Post contains links VC10 : What is even more surprising is that apparently they based it on such a short time, as he had only been President for 2 weeks before nomination closed
40 Klaus : That is a highly bizarre idea. What "concessions" did you think of when you were writing this? But the decision obviously didn't fall at that time
41 Dreadnought : I can't stand the guy, but I can't say I'm going ape. It just makes no sense. The prize is supposed to go to people who have made a lasting impact fo
42 VC10 : I agree with you on that but surely you have to do something to be nominated so what did he do in 2 weeks littlevc10
43 Avek00 : Many Americans realize that the USA did what it needed to do in the years after 9/11, regardless of whether the Western Europeans were on board or no
44 L410Turbolet : Hey, it could be worse. Imagine Obama getting Nobel Prize for economy...!!!
45 Post contains links Klaus : No. That is a misconception. This is the respective passage from Nobel's original will: The Nobel Foundation - Statutes "The whole of my remaining re
46 KiwiRob : Who knows but there has to some other reason behind giving him the prize, it just doesn't appear kosher to me.
47 Post contains images Klaus : He had already addressed international issues in numerous speeches and interviews during his extensive campaign, so the promise to follow through on
48 Klaus : You'll find that most people can understand the reasoning of the committee very well.
49 FuturePilot16 : lol, can you imagine the response from them? It's going to be extremely funny. Congrats to Obama. I wass really shocked to hear that he won, but it m
50 Slz396 : Congratulations Mr President. It's a price well-deserved, even if many in the US won't know what for. Let me explain: The fact the USA now has a presi
51 TransIsland : He's very obviously not Gandhi, as Gandhi never got the Nobel Peace Prize. [/smartass off]
52 FuturePilot16 : Nonetheless he got it. Probably didn't deserve it, but he still got it. I wonder what happened to the whole notiion that the world has rejected Obama
53 L410Turbolet : Obama's undisputed oratory skills (when teleprompter is available) are enough to get him a Nobel Prize? I am sure lefties of all shades red (in Old E
54 Klaus : Which for some unexplained reason are unchanged in on-the-spot responses during unscripted interviews and press conferences? These ones? No. And if y
55 Derico : It's not that Obama does not deserve it, is that the reasons are not quantitative. Just desiring and making efforts for peace does not an award make.
56 Windy95 : Wow........What a joke. The community activist has done nothing except apologize for America and for that he gets a Peace prize. The man has done noth
57 NA : Obama is certainly a man who unlike his predecessors could change the world for the better - if they let him, if he got the money, and if he feels he
58 JakeOrion : Wow... Just... wow... You can actually win the prize by speaking, and don't have to show any results now? That's pretty sad if you ask me.
59 FuturePilot16 : Right. But at least it shows you that being nice and saying nice things can get you somewhere, other than what happens if you create enemies all over
60 Racko : After giving it some thought, I actually like the choice. It's a bold move by the commitee, but imho it is the right one. Remember that Brandt got his
61 OzarkD9S : I'll skip the poilitics and simply say: Congratulations Mr. President.
62 Mt99 : I agree that its a bit premature... Hopefully he will become fully worthy of it. To the detractors... as i heard the other day.. Obama could walk hand
63 AGM100 : How will a Nobel prize winner go on and send the aluminum overcast to Iran I wonder ....? answer .. he wont. I am one citezen who does not really get
64 Klaus : I've never seen him "apologize for America" except where it was basically just acknowledging the obvious, and even there making the USA looking good
65 RussianJet : All of a sudden the French government's view is the most important one, I see. Strange, it rarely has been before on this forum. Too right Klaus. Tha
66 PPVRA : Obama is escalating the war in Afghanistan. Maybe they are using an Orwellian definition of peace. . .[Edited 2009-10-09 07:24:19]
67 MaverickM11 : I'm not sure how that relates to a body giving an award to someone who hasn't done anything?
68 Dreadnought : That's actually very enlightening. I always thought that the recent proclivity of the Nobel Committee to award frauds was simply a result of them get
69 Klaus : It relates both to their ignorance about his impact on international relations even now and to their shrieking fanaticism against him on every possib
70 Venus6971 : Lets see here, Teddy Roosevelt got the Czars Russia and Imperial Japan to sign a peace treaty after a disasterous war for the Russian Navy. Woodrow Wi
71 Post contains images Klaus : No, the problem is in you believing that peace was just a fraud in the first place. Fortunately many if not most people disagree with you on that. No
72 Slider : Ditto. I’m not incensed…I’m laughing my ass off this morning. As ya’ll know, I eschew the cowboy diplomacy of Jorge Bush and remain a loud cr
73 AirPacific747 : I agree, he is good at making speeches but to me, it seems like mostly words and little action or real solutions to back up the nice words in the spe
74 MaverickM11 : I think Obama ordered a food dehydrator from an informercial and the Nobel prize is the free gift JUST FOR TRYING IT! ....which would be what? As far
75 Post contains images Klaus : They should really wait until 50 years after every candidate's death to be really sure... No, actually because what he's saying actually makes sense
76 Klaus : Maybe that relates to you simply declaring everything short of ordering military aggression as "doing nothing". Not that the US forces were used part
77 NAV20 : I quite like Obama (especially compared to his predecessor) and appreciate the change of emphasis that he is carrying through. But I was just as shock
78 JFK69 : Besides the fact that the nomination must be in by february 1, which was mentioned before, less than 2 weeks after he took office. Let us take a look
79 Slz396 : Indeed! Strangely enough though, many of his own people don't see it that way, but then it's interesting to remember Obama actually lived outside the
80 EMBQA : Yea think...?? He was only president for 14 days during the Nobel Peace Prize eligability period.
81 D L X : Now now now, NAV20. It's much easier for detractors to criticize and say "it should have been given to someone else" than it is to actually nominate
82 L-188 : Agree completely, he is just a man not a messiah. And they got royaly screwed over. I agree, the Nobel comitee hasn't done any favors to their credab
83 D L X : Who were they? Name one.
84 Slz396 : Actually that is NOT correct. The Nobel Committee indeed asks all nominations to be in by February 1st, but it needn't pick the laureat from those no
85 TheRedBaron : Now what? Bernie Madoff will win the economy Nobel Prize... Quite posible if you ask me... Just 2 ongoing wars (well Invasions), and Obama gets the No
86 L-188 : Still doesn't change the fact that he has only been a blight on the White House for less then a year. And probably was in office less then six months
87 Venus6971 : I am just curious what does the world see in this guy? I see a a guy in way over his head as minnow swimming with sharks, I see a guy who is being bu
88 NAV20 : Cheers, D L X! Maybe Nobel should have founded a 'Nobel War Prize' as well. There'd be no problem finding scads of nominees for THAT one, every darne
89 Mirrodie : This is a good way to learn about what is needed to win the Nobel prize. If its a prize for accomplishment, I think the award decision is questionabl
90 Slz396 : Unfortunately for you, you are not part of the Comittee and they have decided otherwise. Just saw his acceptance speech live in which he pretty much
91 NIKV69 : That is saying something! This is a farce and I don't think it cuts any wood in getting radical Islam to leave Israel alone and accept their right to
92 DXing : Or at least until an actual accomplishment is made. With very few exceptions most in the world believe in peace, very few have concrete accomplishmen
93 L-188 : There are many things he hasn't deserved but got anyway. This is just another one for the list. I do note that I don't know of any he has turned down
94 Ken777 : Congratulations to President Obama. There can be discussions on the decision being "early", but the Committee alone has the responsibility and authori
95 Wingscrubber : Awarding the Nobel peace prize to the leader of the worlds most heavily militarized nation, whilst engaged in two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and be
96 Baroque : To be called the "blowing things up prize". Now that one it seems would be much more widely understood, not to mention applauded. Not wrong Ken.
97 Flanker : Yep. Congrats to the man for wining something like that even though it is not deserved. I think the Nobel committee has become a joke.
98 Beta : Congrats Mr. President! While I do not know any of the facts surrounding the deliberation and the decision to bestow the award, for the record I do NO
99 AGM100 : Good idea Ken ,, maybe that could have been used for the last administration as well?. Some say the last administration freed 50 million Muslims from
100 Yellowstone : Regardless of one's personal feelings on Reagan, Nobel Prizes are never awarded posthumously.
101 Vega9000 : Wrong. We, in Portugal, have already received two of them. We were the first country to accept them. And they live freely, since they were found to b
102 Mt99 : So just keep them until they die?
103 FuturePilot16 : Great post.
104 Jcs17 : Europeans will never get it. Blunt criticism ahead: The reason why you like Clinton, Obama, Carter, et. al. is because he makes your country feel spec
105 OA412 : Who even uses the sound bite "old Europe" any longer? Especially when they seemingly wish to be taken seriously. So it looks like the ultra right win
106 Maverick623 : Uh huh. Except he was nominated for the prize before he even took office, back when he was the junior senator from Illinois who couldn't get a bill p
107 LTU932 : OK, so what exactly did Obama do to win the Nobel Peace Prize? From my point of view, he has so far done absolutely nothing to deserve it. 1. He hasn'
108 OA412 : And since the countries you insult are part of a larger economic union that very much does matter on the 21st century world stage, clearly you will '
109 Mirrodie : Considering I do not know the criteria for consideration of the Nobel Prize, I am actually doing something that many posting are perhaps incapable of
110 FuturePilot16 : He inherited all that from the Bush admin who couldn't even solve one of those problems in 8 years. and Yet he still managed to win a peace prize. He
111 DXing : Hmmm.... Saddam Hussien relinquished power when A. faced with sanctions from the UN or B. had his country invaded with one purpose being his removal?
112 Jcs17 : I'm sorry, sweetie. Can we make up later? However, each one of those nations is free to determine their own foreign policy. The EU as an organization
113 Kaitak : Or perhaps the reason the Republicans didn't get it (or don't/never will), is that they fail to understand that there is civilisation, people and soc
114 Francoflier : Hey, how'd that work out fer ya, there, sport? I don't think 'defeating the Taliban' was ever on the card or is even realistically achievable, especi
115 DocLightning : I agree. I would like to see some results, first. In science you often have to have done something great and worthwhile 30 years ago to earn a Nobel.
116 Post contains links Klaus : Not a bad way to put it, indeed. Wrong. This is not the Oscars. The nomination deadline is absolutely irrelevant to the final win. Even the nominatio
117 Aa757first : Maybe the Nobel Prize for Medicine should go to some MD, PhD who made a lot of noise about finding the cure for HIV/AIDS. Or maybe it should go to him
118 TravelExec : Certainly the lofty ideals which he seems to espouse are pretty noble and worthy. They will be once he actually does these things. When I say prematu
119 Post contains links Slider : You have some good points here and they are some that many of the Anet crowd doesn’t want to read, hear or acknowledge. Today, the entire blogosphe
120 PSA53 : But didn't you hear Obama's wonderful statement? "The US is in Afghanistan for Al-Qaeda(true,as well),not the Taliban." Boy,that gives the pro-democr
121 AGM100 : Well ,,, I still have a Oscar and he doesn't - Signed: Al Gore Good one .... welcome back to what now ? The award is not given out for that reason ..i
122 Pyrex : Correct. I am not Bush either, so I will be sitting around waiting for the mailman to bring me my check. Exactly. Even Arafat was much more deserving
123 D L X : I've never been unreasonable, and I've always been fair. You should not give my posts such short shrift, ya know!
124 Mortyman : Please elaborate ...
125 David L : There is no US-European divide on this matter. There are people from the US for and against and there are Europeans for and against. But not having h
126 Post contains links Klaus : Here is Obama's acceptance speech in its entirety: YouTube - Barack Obama Nobel Peace Prize Acceptance Speech "Good morning. Well, this is not how I e
127 Post contains links Mt99 : Someone agrees with you: KHALED AL-BATSH, AN ISLAMIC JIHAD LEADER Obama's winning the peace prize shows these prizes are political, not governed by t
128 Tommy767 : Similarly, President Carter received the Nobel Peace Prize in the late 1970s during his presidency. Congrats Obama, but be aware people that this hono
129 NIKV69 : I was kidding! Pretty telling.
130 Vega9000 : Well, speak for yourself. I'm always open to receiving innocent people that have been arrested, tortured, and can't go back to their countries for po
131 PSA53 : Thanks for the video clip. .Obama listed the shortcomings of this award,prehaps it was premature, and political,but he delivers the hopes and dreams
132 OA260 : Im a great fan of Obamas but when I heard it I was surprised. I think it should have been at the end of his term. Although some may argue that Obama h
133 Mainland : If he's smart, he'll decline the award...
134 Post contains links PHLBOS : Incorrect. Carter was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002; WELL AFTER his presidency. http://www.almaz.com/nobel/peace/
135 Longhornmaniac : Explain? He's already accepted it, "as a call to action." Cheers, Cameron
136 FuturePilot16 : He probably will. But what's that gonna do? Nothing, he will still be the guy that won it, and if his foreign policy continues in this direction, he'
137 L-188 : Because it is the right thing to do to decline it. Now he has to face charges that he has unearned and undeserved praises. Which by all indications t
138 Mainland : Aaaand I'm 2 or so hours behind on the news. Apologies.
139 FuturePilot16 : So what? People called Bush all kinds of disgusting nasty names while he was in office. I don't think Presidents care too much what they're called, e
140 Longhornmaniac : In your opinion... Haha, no worries. Cheers, Cameron
141 FlyDeltaJets87 : I have many great ideas too. Does that now qualify me for a Nobel Prize? A great point that no one has responded to. "Whoever said the pen is mightie
142 Codeshare : Hard to agree, but how about this being a cheer up prize for the Olympics... Seriously, I think there are some who deserved it more. World politics...
143 Dreadnought : His ego is too great. He'll never do it. Although if he did, his standing would increase markedly in my book.
144 OA412 : No thank you, I have standards. So conversely those who do not take care of business with guns (in your opinion France and Germany) are weak/women? W
145 FlyDeltaJets87 : No. Some of us just realize why you need the guns to back up what you say. Because it wasn't "nice words" that kept the Soviets from expanding into W
146 DXing : Naahhh..too much money involved.
147 IwenttoYXEonce : Guys, Kissinger won a Nobel Peace Prize.... KISSINGER... the guy who helped overthrow Salvador Allende in Chile and put Pinochet in power. This award
148 Klaus : Wrong. It has been addressed several times already. And no, his award has nothing to do with the time he spent in office before the nomination, it ha
149 OA412 : Very well put Klaus.
150 Post contains links OzGlobal : Many are surprised and are asking, "what message does this send." Well, if you want to know what message the Nobel committee WANTED to send, you would
151 DocLightning : I agree, AGM, that it *should* be for achievement. But apparently, it is not. If it were, then I think both of us agree another man should have won i
152 Springbok747 : Nah he's too full of himself to decline it. The Nobel Peace prize is a farce. This is similar to awards for such failures as Kofi Annan, Mohammad el
153 Aviationmaster : And especially Bush accomplished so much with that tactic... The US, through its actions in the past eight years, has put itself in a position where
154 SXDFC : Congratulations to Mr.Obama, but I completely agree with the statement above, how long was Carter in office for when he got his award? In all honesty
155 TravelExec : Carter's award was not for his work as President of the USA. It was for his work through The Carter Centre.
156 Phoenix9 : Funny you mentioned that, I just read something similar on a news website: "Did you hear Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize? Answer: What for? For not b
157 Avent : According to nobelprize.org, they solicit nominations from: award it based on: Now if thousands of international politicians and scientists and acade
158 Post contains links and images Beta : You, sir, are you suggesting that our POTUS, The One-"He is above us all...sort of God"- Barack Obama is humbled to accept "crap"? That cannot be! Yo
159 Flanker : Guys guys guys..you got it all wrong. As one of the comments on telegraph.co.uk says: He obviously won because of his heroic effort&sacrifice in tryin
160 Cws818 : Then please explain how the U.S. got Libya to abandon its nuclear program without firing a shot.
161 FlyDeltaJets87 : Then the award should have gone to the people who published the Pentagon report. Because we've bombed Libya before and they knew we would do it again
162 Post contains images KPDX : What a freakin' joke. There are many people WAY more deserving than Obama who has done nothing...except be Obama..   [Edited 2009-10-09 17:26:09]
163 Dc9northwest : I disagree with the decision; what is done is done though, and we have to move on... Once Bush is forgotten, Obama will be remembered as a mediocre pr
164 LTU932 : Actually it does affect the US, or at least it matters to them. The stability in Central America has always been important to the US, especially now
165 WarRI1 : You can gripe complain, bitch and moan, he was awarded the prize, he is giving the money to charity, he said he will go to receive the prize. It is ov
166 ER757 : I have to agree with those who are puzzled by this choice - I am sure there are quite a few Afghans feeling that way as their country contains quite a
167 WarRI1 : I might suggest that anyone who feels that way should start relocating to another country with more promise. We have had it here, they had better get
168 FuturePilot16 : Exactly dude. I don't get it. Nothing is ever good enough for some people. Chicago loses the olympic nomination, "The world has rejected Obama". He w
169 JBirdAV8r : How many GOP-bashing threads have you started? When does your bitterness end? No, not the world, but the International Olympic Committee sure did. Ma
170 D L X : Name some. Let's see if you can do better than L-188, who ignored my challenge.
171 Pyrex : F*ck me... I had to pardon the people who put me in jail for 27 years in order to get this s*it and it turns out all I needed was to get elected presi
172 Maverick623 : Pfffhhhh hahahahahahaha111!!!!111 That "prize" started going down the toilet when Arafat was awarded it. Then we had Al "Global Warming is evil, but
173 FuturePilot16 : Well, my bitterness as actually has a very good point to it, other than those who hate the president for really absolutely no good reason whatsoever.
174 Baroque : All very nicely put. Why can the critics not read Klaus' earlier post citing the conditions for the awards? Which leads to: And the hope that the Nob
175 Springbok747 : Gandhi Steve Biko Corazon Aquino Oskar Schindler Paul Rusesabagina Irena Sendler César Chávez Abdul Sattar Edhi
176 Baroque : Er, I think you need to meet the "alive" criterion with a few more of yr list, unless of course you think that Obama is not alive. Looked OK the last
177 Avent : Did you forget to add Dick Chaney, Or G.W.Bush, or Donald Rumsfeld?
178 Theredbaron : There is journalist in Mexico who exposed alot of politicians and at least one governor in Child molestation Paedophilia and maybe related to the Juar
179 Springbok747 : Thats not the point. The fact is these people have done a hell of a lot more than Mr. President. FFS, did you even look at the people I mentioned?! H
180 Mortyman : No he did'nt
181 Cws818 : How absurd, and inaccurate. You may dismiss Spain and other EU members "aside from France and the UK," but along with Tony Blair, the Prime Ministers
182 RussianJet : What US interests specifically? I would have thought that having less hatred towards your country around the world was certainly in your interests. T
183 HAWK21M : The Criteria should be that the Peace award goes to someone who "Has Achieved world peace" & Not who has the potential to achieve world peace. Surpris
184 SAS A340 : As a Scandinavian,i feel ashamed......don't get me wrong,Obama is the best president US has have for a very very long time,but this is just sooo wrong
185 Francoflier : Sure is. He knows very well how embarrassing this whole thing is for him, and that this isn't going to help him one bit. As many have said above, (an
186 Post contains images DXing : So, last year Time Magazines "Man of the Year". This year the Nobel Peace Prize. What's left? Ahhh...People Magazines "Sexiest Man of the Year!!!!! 20
187 Yellowstone : The criteria are stated very clearly in Nobel's will: If you don't like those criteria, endow your own prize. No, it's exactly the point. The questio
188 Aaron747 : Personally, I think it's ridiculous for him to get this award at this time. I like the direction he's taken the public front of US foreign policy to,
189 Ojas : As a president, I support Obama. The Americans elected him to be their President and Obama had given hope to people back then that he can get US out o
190 NAV20 : Fair suggestion, Pyrex. Thing is though, although Tsvangirai has suffered greatly, worst of all from the probable murder of his wife, the job in Zimb
191 Yellowstone : Wrong on both counts - the Dalai Lama received the prize in 1989, and Mandela in 1993.
192 Ojas : Sorry mistyped, edited that now.
193 Seb146 : I tuned around to find out why Obama was given the prize other than anyone else. One suggestion I heard is because he started peace processes. Much li
194 Klaus : Thank you! Irrelevant. In the past year before yesterday he was the most active person with regard to the advancement of peaceful resolution of confl
195 AGM100 : Yes ...but that's for another subject on another day. He has mishandled everything so far ... badly and the Dems know it. But that's OK , give him th
196 FuturePilot16 : How is winning the Nobel peace prize embarrassing? Falling down the stairs at work is embarrasing, winning the Nobel Peace prize is an honor, which h
197 Ojas : Well in that case, every Indian Prime Minister after Indira Gandhi deserves a Nobel Peace for not attacking Pakistan despite repeated provocations an
198 KiwiRob : I think this quote from FORMER POLISH PRESIDENT AND NOBEL PRIZE WINNER LECH WALESA "So soon? This is too soon. He has not yet made a real input. He is
199 AGM100 : Ok I am sacred now ... I some ways he is wrong . Obama has tried to trigger all of his agenda very early because they knew it would meet the resistan
200 PPVRA : True, but with that said, and despite his escalation of the Afghan war, it's also true that his decision to back down from the missile defense shield
201 Klaus : Obama didn't get the prize for not attacking (which would be somewhat misplaced anyway, looking at Afghanistan), he got it for setting things in moti
202 PSA53 : FYI... Now that he has the Nobel Peace Prize in his pocket, Obama is now going after an TV Emmy. Last night on TBS when the the Yanks-Twins went into
203 Post contains links Mirrodie : This thread deserves a bit of Zen. Now there are 2 things that Obama and Lama have in common... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzd8GBOkEZE
204 Post contains links Klaus : For clarification, this is the announcement of the award by the Nobel Committee: "The USA is now playing a more constructive role" The Norwegian Nobel
205 FlyDeltaJets87 : Well then myself and everyone else in my senior design class deserves a Nobel Prize in science because we are starting design on a "Green Airplane" t
206 KiwiRob : So what happens in 12 months time and he maybe turns into a complete putz, maybe ends up going back on all his current retoric. The Nobel Committee m
207 Springbok747 : No it isn't. Ok, so some of the people I mentioned are dead. But there are still people on that list who are alive. Google them and see what they did
208 Flanker : As seen already, absolutely nothing. Oh maybe the skills required to read from15 prompters?
209 TheCol : Maybe they should have been awarded Nobel Prizes when they were still alive... Just a thought.
210 HAWK21M : Very well said......Its true The Indian PM decision not to cross the LOC inspite of numerous cross border attacks on Parliament/Cities out here,def d
211 Klaus : No, it doesn't. Missing an opportunity to escalate hostilities is not remotely comparable to actively changing the dynamics of a situation towards a
212 Theredbaron : Maybe he will also win the Cy Young since he is a rookie.. But if Maddona is on the Rock and roll hall of Fame, everything and anything is possible.
213 L410Turbolet : Why don't you spare them your annoying patronizing? Imagine if Helmut Kohl (who unlike Obama happened to actually achieve something tangible) got the
214 RussianJet : That's one hell of a claim.
215 Klaus : Because it was obviously necessary at this point. I cheered for his successes and I am still grateful to him that he seized the opportunity for reuni
216 Klaus : Just as long as we don't actually have to worship...!
217 Post contains images Baroque : Good try my friend.    But you could find that your Mac sourced post will turn out to have a bug that makes the bit after my quote totally unreadab
218 AverageUser : Could not have said it better myself. If only everyone changed their respective situational dynamics on this planet.
219 Cws818 : It is not easy to respond to someone who is inconsistent with what he says. First you said this: Then you said this: So under your initial statement,
220 FlyDeltaJets87 : Fine. I shouldn't have called Libya abandoning it's nuclear program "diplomacy", because it wasn't diplomacy in the same sense as say, the Cuban Miss
221 Avent : Just wondering where you stood. Since the prize is awarded by soliciting nominations from thousands of political and cultural leaders, and they selec
222 Deskflier : The most fitting comment to this award I have heard so far, stated:"It´s like awarding someone an Olympic Gold Medal for saying he/she plans to break
223 Mortyman : What has happend afterwards was the fault of Arafat, Israel and the entire international community... It's way to easy to blame it all on one person
224 Post contains images Klaus : If so, it's not the respective computer's OS that's making the difference...! People's preconceived notions apparently trump mere facts and informati
225 Baroque : Aye well there you might be hitting a nub in the problem. Just as it is inconvenient if human activities affect climate - esp if the fickle finger of
226 Seb146 : Were you guys nominated? I believe that is the first step. It does sound like a good idea. Maybe next year. More hatred from the right. That's all th
227 FlyDeltaJets87 : What part has been "dishonest". The committee itself said the award based on his efforts. The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Pe
228 Klaus : So you see a restart of the relations to the muslim world, not just declarations but concrete steps towards further nuclear weapons limitations, the
229 Beta : Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to nominate Vladimir Putin for the Nobel "Peace" Prize next year. Here are the reasons why: 1. Mr. Putin's short, viole
230 L410Turbolet : Choosing Intifada 2. over negotiation table was Arafat's choice and no one else's. If the critieria is no longer an achievement but a mere impression
231 Baroque : Aside from matters such as this: the Nobel Peace Prize is an award where potential is a major factor. You win gold at an Olympic games by coming firs
232 RussianJet : Forget it, Klaus. Unfortunately, there are many here who would not think of it even as nothing, but would think of it as a betrayal of the US and fir
233 Directorguy : Although I commend Mr. Obama for his goodwill towards improving US foreign relations-his speeches delivered in Turkey and Cairo earlier this summer hi
234 Post contains links Avent : However, the prize is not only given to people who have succeeded in making change; it is also awarded as a statement of international support for th
235 HAWK21M : No Gandhi in the list. regds MEL.
236 Dreadnought : I'm interested to know where the prize money will be donated to. Wounded Warriors Project? ACORN? Red Cross?
237 MadameConcorde : The Nobels awarding their Peace Prize to Barack H. Obama? This has got to be a joke. He decides to send 21,000 more troops to fight Afghanistan and th
238 Directorguy : Thank you for that highly informative link. It certainly changed my perception of the award, and backs up what others had told me. However-most peopl
239 Avent : You seriously think ACORN is in the same league as the others? Maybe Obama will use it to create a more toxic genetically engineered form of the flu
240 DXing : Your preconception was right as although von Ossietzky sounded the call, he certainly wasn't alone. Winston Churchill was also sounding the call earl
241 Avent : This makes no sense. You are arguing the merits of who among a group should receive the prize, whereas my pre-conception concerned it being awarded a
242 Post contains links DXing : It could have just as easily been awarded after the fact to Sir Winston Churchill but it wasn't. It was awarded to someone who did very little if any
243 Beta : I wonder whether President Eisenhower received any Peace prize while in office? If not, then why? I think if any sitting president should get a peace
244 CALTECH : The latest award, "Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:23 P.M. Today it was announced after much deliberation and very careful consideration that Barack Obama
245 L-188 : Today it was announced that in addition to the Alaska Army National Guard becoming a lead sponser of the "Irondog" but also that the team of Barak Oba
246 Avent : Maybe. Maybe they felt at the time the ordeal of a guy being tormented by the Nazis was a little more tangible than warnings from Churchill offered f
247 DXing : So now a part of the nomination is that you must be "tormented"? Which Ghandi did much more effectively than von Ossietzky did since Ghandi made peac
248 MadameConcorde : I hope the Nobel Prize Committee will award the Peace Prize to Prince Albert of Monaco. He is a true Peace man, no doubt, and a friendly chap too yet
249 Post contains images FuturePilot16 : Did Monaco ever get attacked by anyone? Until then they have no reason to wage war. Uhh, is that supposed to be funny? You do realize how rediculous
250 CALTECH : Well, was going to use the Nobel Peace Prize, but those funny Norwegians beat everyone to it.
251 JBirdAV8r : I laughed...why insult someone's sense of humor just because you don't get it? Get a thicker skin.
252 Post contains links L410Turbolet : Even the poll straight in the "Lion's den" of EU propaganda, the Euronews suggest that Obama does not deserve it. http://www.euronews.net/news/you
253 Avent : Why would you ask that of me? I have a fair understanding of logic and realize that one would have to be either incredibly juvenile or irrational or
254 Slider : No way, Putin. Ahmedinajad is clearly the favorite. You forgot to also mention that Putin has silenced his critics. Quite literally.
255 Post contains links MaverickM11 : That would make sense given the history of the award going to people that have had no lasting effect on world peace but were "really hopeful and pret
256 Cws818 : I'm sorry but I don't think that you have the right to determine for anyone other than yourself what factors are relevant when making a choice in the
257 DXing : Oh I don't know, perhaps because you brought it up? The rest is hyperbole and deflection. If you cast your vote based on what a foreign power or peop
258 Cws818 : What I think is that I have as much right as you do to determine for myself what factors are relevant when I cast a vote. My voting record has not do
259 Avent : Rubbish. Here's the full quote: You were the one creating the ridiculous notion that part of the nomination is that one MUST be "tormented." So you c
260 MadameConcorde : How about Silvio Berlusconi?
261 WarRI1 : (War-monger) A person who wants, advocates or tries to precipitate war. I assure you that President Obama neither wants, advocates, or tries to preci
262 DXing : If you were basing your vote on what people in another country think then yes you are. Sorry, nice try. I highlighted your wording. You added torment
263 MaverickM11 : We should try diplomacy; they seem like reasonable people. They only bomb big groups of civilians, then bomb the first aid responders, and then bomb
264 Cws818 : That is not a factor that I have considered to date. The point remains that you are in no point of authority to tell anyone else what they may or may
265 MadameConcorde : It is the duty of a President, more so one who is awarded a Nobel Peace Prize to stop the wars his country is involved in. If he has inherited the wa
266 Dreadnought : Why would the subjugation, and brutalization of millions of people deserve a Nobel Peace Prize? Or are you one of those who feels like nothing is wor
267 Aaron747 : Nonsense - more troops and continued fighting in Afghanistan are 100% necessary. Leaving work unfinished in Afghanistan has dire consequences for eve
268 MadameConcorde : Time will tell. So far things are not going so well for the US troops (should I say occupiers) in Afghanistan. The Russians had to leave and not in a
269 Aaron747 : Namely because the whole campaign has been undermanned and underfunded for the last eight years. Some pie in the sky "let the dice fall where they ma
270 Windy95 : It has been just announced that after watching college football all day Saturday and asking for hope and change for the Fighting Illini that Obama has
271 Avent : In Line #2 you are implying that being tormented is a required part of being nominated, and implied by my statement. I said no such thing about it be
272 WarRI1 : Technically you are correct, we are occupying part of Afghanistan. The tone of the way the term is used above though would lead some to think we did
273 DXing : You don't have to defend anything, an explanation was all I asked for. I fabricated nothing save a question. You decided it was an attack as opposed
274 WarRI1 : Now that I can appreciate. As well said as it can be said. Just the correct amount of sarcasm.
275 HAWK21M : Every battle & occupation is for ones countrys security interests & No other reason. regds MEL.
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