Blink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15 Posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1381 times:
This really is not a complaint, but rather a suggestion.
DeltaSFO made a post about a double standard here, and some of the topics included having anti-xxx country posts deleted by the guest moderators while the anti- american posts always stay at the top and are never deleted, even after days.
My piece of advice is to rather have "recommendations" for post deletion by the new moderators, and you actually looking at the post(or thread) to see if it is really worth deleting as there are some grudges here. I would hate for the people in power to delete a post because it offends them and meanwhile start a thread offending others and pretend like there is no "suggest deletion" button on them.
So can you somehow make it that all deletions must go through You or Gary?
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
Hurricane From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1320 times:
I was thinking about the same thing, Blink. Sometimes a moderator could be wrong, or angry, and delete a post/thread for the wrong reasons. Everyone gets mad, and everybody has strong feelings. Everyone makes mistakes. I'm not targeting any specific person, but moderators will occasionally delete posts due to the wrong reasons (ie personal feelings) Not to say it has happened before, but it is inevitable. I think it would be better for the moderators to have a vote of some sort. With the current system, a moderator could delete a post for the wrong reason, and there is nothing (that I know of) another moderator could do to stop him/her. A vote between moderators, if at all possible, would be the best solution.
Starship From South Africa, joined Nov 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1286 times:
Blink, for what it's worth the 18 new moderators are not guest moderators. We have been appointed as fully fledged permanent moderators.
All deletions and/or suggested deletions get e-mailed to each of the moderators. Some deletions are clear cut, some are not. In some instances the moderators have instant access to one another via MSN Instant Messenger, ICQ or AOL Instant Messenger etc. In the case of a controversial topic, we can discuss this via the message service, before taking any action. If a post is deleted, it can be re-instated, if found to be an unjustified deletion.
Johan does get to see most, if not all of the deletions. If he feels it was inappropriate, he will say so, as he in turn is moderating the moderators.
CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4780 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1205 times:
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try to look in there more often.
Just remember folks, you can make our jobs a bit easier by using the "suggest delete" button judisciously...that means NOT just because you disagree with the topic. But if it is in the wrong forum or violates other forum rules, please keep clicking suggest delete, that way the errant threads get detected more quickly.
RogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1171 times:
The reason why trip reports and other forums receive no attention is because the moderators can't enforce their own petty jealousies or preferences there.
Some of the moderators think its their job to police criticims of their favorite aircraft manufacturer, or to police criticims of their favoirte country/region.
Look at this post that got deleted from a thread about JAL's consideration of the A380:
"I'm am sure that Airbus has been pushing the A380 with every airline that they feel they have a chance to sell it to. Even the smallest chance is still worth a shot. The A380 won't be good for the domestic market if Airbus is unable to prove evacuation procedures will work with 700-900 passengers. Will JAL buy the A380, only time will tell. They would have to consider the cost of crew training for a totally new aircraft, new equipment for maintenance, plus the facilities to handle such a large aircraft. "
And then, when the exact same post got posted in another thread about the same topic, they archived the topic. GOD forbid anyone should see a post critical of Airbus.
The moderators I've seen are immature and can't restrain their own personal opinions. They should only consider deleting/archiving if they get several complaints about a post. If no one complains, the moderators should have no self governing ability to strike a comment that everyone else finds acceptable except them.
174thfwff From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1053 times:
Hello fellow air nuts...
I am coming out. I am a moderator also. Although I have not been very active in posting these past few weeks due to personal reasons/vacations, I assure you I read the forum every day, many times a day. I don't even look at the user names anymore, just what posts states.
I am human and I’m trying my best. We were given access to the thoughts of Johan, and he gave us the law of A.net, what we should expect and be anticipated of. We watched and learned the rights and wrongs of the forums, what posts can stay and what goes and what we should do when we come across borderline cases. We watched for a few weeks, read emails from him and we asked questions until he felt we were ready.
Just recently we were given the thumbs up by Johan to start to make the calls by ourselves. Already a moderator was removed after abusing his power. I assure you guys that if a moderator starts to abuse his or her power, that person will be removed of all the privileges that come to us.
If any of you need to talk to me, my e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org
I Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1045 times:
Johan plans on releasing a list, but when I don't know. He's working on some other stuff around a.net right now. But be assured you will know all of them at some point. But quite a few of us have posted around letting you know we are mods (example; 174thfwff). About the Trip Reports forum, I usally check it out once a night since it isn't all that "busy" and I am not always in the mood to read Trip Reports. But if you suggest a deletion someone is sure to look at it pretty quick. Peace,