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F1 2009: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Posted (4 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5129 times:

It is time to open a new thread.

On to the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, first of its kind, on the brand new Yas Island racing track and the last Gand Prix of the 2009 Season.

We have got a new F1 World Champion, Jenson Button who was "crowned" at Interlagos.

We have got a new FIA President, Jean Todt, elected in Paris with the full support of Maix Mosley, Bernie Ecclestone and Michael Schumacher.

There will be some new teams entering the competition in the 2010 season. Drivers are shuffling around between teams. Some will stay and some will move (or have already been moved) to other teams.

The Abu Dhabi Granc Prix

Abu Dhabi, 30 October - 1 November 2009

Friday 30
First practice: 1300-1430 (0900-1030 GMT) *
Second practice: 1700-1830 (1300-1430 GMT) *

Saturday 31
Third practice: 1400-1500 (1000-1100 GMT) *
Qualifying: 1700 (1300 GMT)

Sunday 1
Race: 1700 (1300 GMT)

* Practice times subject to approval

Thisi is an overview of what Yas Island is like - Much like Monaco, mostly a place for the rich and famous. Definitely F1 with the "Ferrari World".

http://www.yasisland.ae/Default_en_gb.html?1

Ferrari World

http://www.yasisland.ae/FerrariWorld_en_gb.html

The official Abu Dhabi Grand Prix website

http://www.formula1.com/races/in_det...abu_dhabi_823/circuit_diagram.html

This site is where you will find all the information about the 2009 FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX.

Let's all hope for a great race on this beautiful new track for the last Grand Prix of the 2009 Formula 1 season.

 airplane   airplane   cheerful   champagne   camera   airplane   airplane 


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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

Thank god the cricket season is starting soon!! Otherwise I wouldn't know what to do with myself during the off season!

User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 5059 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
We have got a new FIA President, Jean Todt, elected in Paris

- That is interesting news. Who took his place at Ferrari?

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
Friday 30
First practice: 1300-1430 (0900-1030 GMT) *
Second practice: 1700-1830 (1300-1430 GMT) *

Saturday 31
Third practice: 1400-1500 (1000-1100 GMT) *
Qualifying: 1700 (1300 GMT)

Sunday 1
Race: 1700 (1300 GMT)

- My generic question on times, is SpeedTV covering the weekend for those of us in the U.S.?

- Thanks for the links MC.

David



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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 5056 times:



Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 2):
That is interesting news. Who took his place at Ferrari?

It was made official in November 2007 that Todt would step down. And Stefano Domenicali took his place as of 2008.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 5045 times:

I hate to have to miss out on AbuDhabi (the real thing)... I really wanted to go but my finances said NO.  Sad I will have to content myself with the usual distance watching.  Sad

Exclusive: We lap Abu Dhabi with Martin Brundle

http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2457

Site says Brawn will do everything in their power to keep Jenson Button for the 2010 season. I guess it must be all about money.  Confused  Yeah sure



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User currently onlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 5035 times:



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 1):
Thank god the cricket season is starting soon!! Otherwise I wouldn't know what to do with myself during the off season!

There is still the A1 GP to watch. Also if you like motorsports on ice, there is the Andros Trophee in France. Very nice competition.



"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1564 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 5030 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 4):
Site says Brawn will do everything in their power to keep Jenson Button for the 2010 season. I guess it must be all about money.

JB is apprently getting a $5m "pay-rise" from Brawn for 2010, so back to the same as 2008, not really a rise then... However JB has said he just wants a competitive car and it's not about the money. You would have thought that BGP would be willing to pay him a little extra now. Also, McLaren have expressed an interest.


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 5024 times:

McLaren will go down the path of finding a driver who is capable of pushing, but not beating Lewis. Someone who will pick up the peices and capitalise on opportunities when they present thenselves. I don't think that's Jenson Button.

User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5689 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 5023 times:
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Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 5):
There is still the A1 GP to watch

Not sure about that, they were a no show at Surfers Paradise and it is yet to be seen if they run at all this season.



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User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1564 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 5018 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 4):
Exclusive: We lap Abu Dhabi with Martin Brundle

http://www.autosport.com/features/ar.../2457

Interestingly, the pit exit features a tunnel underneath the circuit. Think this may be the same lap that is featured in the link above:
http://www.crash.net/f1/video/154015...s_unique_pit-lane_tunnel_exit.html


User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 5010 times:



Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 2):
- My generic question on times, is SpeedTV covering the weekend for those of us in the U.S.?

Yes, Live.

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/

Half way down the page on the right side.

Friday: Free Practice, 9am EST.
Saturday: Qualifying, 9am EST (again, slightly tape delayed)
Sunday: Race, 8am EST (coverage starts at 7:30, Live, not delayed at all)


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3547 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 5008 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
We have got a new F1 World Champion, Jenson Button who was "crowned" at Interlagos.

I note the use of "crowned" Is there a formal presentation of the drivers title ? If so we neither saw it here in the UK this year with Jenson Button, or last year with Lewis Hamilton. All we saw was the usual post GP podium presentation and press conference for the Brazilian GP. All I can recall seeing on TV is Bernie Ecclestone privately congratulating Jenson in the pit lane

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
We have got a new FIA President, Jean Todt, elected in Paris with the full support of Maix Mosley, Bernie Ecclestone and Michael Schumacher.

Why does the statement "with the full support of Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone" leave me with a feeling of deja vu ?


User currently onlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

Quoting Lapper (Reply 9):
Interestingly, the pit exit features a tunnel underneath the circuit.

I honestly don't see any reason for this tunnel. Pit exit could have simply be made on the right handside of the track, without being a danger for any of the cars.

This track is terribly boring. It's flat, it's wide, it's not so technical, there is nothing the drivers should be scared of here. And when the get off the car, they have a super luxury hotel on a walking distance... It's all modern, all pure, all bland, all clinically clean, all so boring.

F1 is getting away from its fan base (France, Great-Britain, Argentina, the USA, not to mention the yoyo (you're in, you're out) with Canada...) to go in some trendy places full of petro-dollars, but with not much interest of motorsport. I bet the stands will be half full, like it's the case every year in Bahrain  

Bring back men's tracks, for Pete's sake!! Bring back Rouen, Zandvoort, Mosport, Long Beach, Brands Hatch!! Circuits where drivers could get the scare of their life. It's on these tracks were you can recognise a good driver from an average one! Today's tracks are not selectives anymore. They are just plain boring.

[Edited 2009-10-26 05:17:45]


"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 4984 times:



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 12):


Bring back men's tracks, for Pete's sake!! Bring back Rouen, Zandvoort, Mosport, Long Beach, Brands Hatch!! Circuits where drivers could get the scare of their life. It's on these tracks were you can recognise a good driver from an average one! Today's tracks are not selectives anymore. They are just plain boring.

I read an interesting article on ESPN.com the other day. It was about NASCAR, but the same hypothesis applies to F1. The author thinks that the cars and tracks have been so sanitized that the sport is no longer enjoyable to watch because there isn't a palpable element of danger involved-
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar...ory?columnist=hinton_ed&id=4584736

It would be nice to have some of the old tracks back that really scared drivers sh$tless when driven at the limit, but for anyone that remembers Senna's death or going further back remembers the dark days of the early 70s when several drivers were killed each year, the sanitized version of F1 is the only way to go so that we can talk about driver lineups for next year and not have to add the qualifier "if they're still alive".

Quoting Lapper (Reply 9):

Interestingly, the pit exit features a tunnel underneath the circuit. Think this may be the same lap that is featured in the link above:

Same track and same 2 seater, but the driver in the video is Bruno Senna rather than Brundle. I wonder who built that 2 seater and what sort of engine it has? Anyone remember the 3 seater Arrows F1 car with one passenger in each sidepod?


User currently onlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 4982 times:



Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 13):

It would be nice to have some of the old tracks back that really scared drivers sh$tless when driven at the limit, but for anyone that remembers Senna's death or going further back remembers the dark days of the early 70s when several drivers were killed each year, the sanitized version of F1 is the only way to go so that we can talk about driver lineups for next year and not have to add the qualifier "if they're still alive".

I know. I should have been born 50 or 60 years ago...

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 13):
Anyone remember the 3 seater Arrows F1 car with one passenger in each sidepod?

Yep, here it is:

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/f1/2001/general/f1-2001-gen-tm-0382.jpg

McLaren built a two-seater as well:



I remember Martin Brundle taking Mosley for a lap. I hope he scared the sh*t out of him Big grin



"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

And lets not forget the F1 Espace. That was a pretty cool car with the engine mounted in the middle and 2 seats.  Smile

http://galeria.forocoches.com/data/500/Renault_Espace_F1_04.jpg

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 14):
McLaren built a two-seater as well:

Hakkinen drove that Mclaren car with his wife in the backseat around a snowy track in Finland.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently onlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months ago) and read 4962 times:



Quoting Sudden (Reply 15):
That was a pretty cool car with the engine mounted in the middle and 2 seats.

Yes! That was rock n' roll!!



"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

I think we might see a few spills on that pit lane exit. It;s going to be fun to watch.

Quoting Lapper (Reply 9):
http://www.crash.net/f1/video/154015...s_unique_pit-lane_tunnel_exit.html

I think Bruno has a wuss on board. he's taking it rather gingerly around there. Maybe it's the dust.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4903 times:

Some greeeeeaaaat news!!!!

Genius Kamui Kobayashi will drive for Toyota in Abu Dhabi!!!

Hammy racing Kamui! Wooohooo!!!!! Forget Kimi!!!!!  airplane   airplane   cheerful   airplane   airplane 

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79783

I hope Kobayashi will be made a Toyota GP driver for 2010.
Timo Glock can go with Renault no problem!



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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4896 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 18):
Hammy racing Kamui! Wooohooo!!!!! Forget Kimi!!!!!

Dear lord! What are you on about now?
Hamilton racing Kamui, and forget Kimi!!?? 2 drivers with WDC titles, and 1 driver who has driven 1 race in F1 where he did an excellent job, hands down.
But it takes much more to convince me, and I would assume many others, that he is that good as you want him to be. Come back after a season of racing in F1, and lets see if your statement above still carries any value.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4887 times:



Quoting Sudden (Reply 19):
Come back after a season of racing in F1, and lets see if your statement above still carries any value.

Kimi is some years older. I don't know how many more years he will be racing.

Kobayashi and Hamilton are about the same age with still many years to go, hopefully, and a lot of good things awaiting them. They are the future of F1. The same can certainly be said about Vettel one super gifted young driver!

http://www.formula1.com/teams_and_drivers/drivers/828/

http://www.formula1.com/teams_and_drivers/drivers/12/

http://www.formula1.com/teams_and_drivers/drivers/837/

http://www.formula1.com/teams_and_drivers/drivers/822/



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User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4885 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 20):
They are the future of F1.

If Kobayashi throws another block at someone like he did to Nakajima in Brazil then his future will be but a short one...



"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4879 times:



Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 21):
If Kobayashi throws another block at someone like he did to Nakajima in Brazil then his future will be but a short one...

I wonder why he didn't get a drive through for that cause that was stricly against the rules to be honest.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4869 times:

Maybe it was some question of rivalry between the two Japanese drivers, something we will never know about.


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User currently onlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4864 times:

For once that we have someone who drives with his balls... He animates the races, that's good!!


"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
25 Aerobalance : Could be... Like watching a train wreck?
26 GrahamHill : Ok, maybe his move on Nakajima was not fair, I agree. But I remember F1 in the 80s and early 90s were drivers never hesitated to go wheel against whe
27 Aerobalance : I remember those days also, Kaba's move wasn't like that - it was a dangerous, surprise block. Trying to not let a faster Nakajima get by after Kaya'
28 LTU932 : Or you could wait until next year, when MotoGP re-starts. Even if Valentino Rossi continues to repeat, there's far more action in MotoGP than there h
29 Sudden : Even so, the move he did was totally out of order, and dangerous. And he should have recd a drive through for it. But as we know how FIA works, it do
30 StealthZ : What colour McLaren in 2010 There are rumours that Abu Dhabi investment company Aabar(largest shareholder in Mercedes-Benz) will be taking a 75% owner
31 Post contains links T1210s : Martin Whitmarsh says McLaren and their Formula 1 rivals will do "all they can" to save the British Grand Prix. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motors
32 Kit777 : Yeah there is, just not at any of the races. Button will be officially crowned at a presentation in Monaco at some point in the near future, I can't
33 Post contains links Bill142 : Rosberg confirms Williams exit. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79812 I guess it's only a matter of time now until he's confirmed at McLar
34 Codeshare : Good luck to him, he's a good performer. McL or BGP most likely, but maybe a third option is in the works, Toyota ? KS/codeshare
35 Post contains links MadameConcorde : FOFA: D. Grassi says the structure @ Abu D. is impressive but the track in itself doesn't seem to be very challenging. That's bad news. I'd rather hav
36 Post contains links Sudden : If you haven't read todays press conference, please do. The way Jarno Trulli starts to argue with Adrian Sutil about the crash in Brazil is rather ent
37 Bill142 : What is FOFA?
38 StealthZ : It could stand for 'Friends of Oaxacan Folk Art" or A Fofa is a type of hairstyle, short to medium length on the sides and back, with a receding hair
39 GrahamHill : Nothing related to F1, but with motorsports nonetheless. Yesterday, a friend of mine posted a message on Facebook saying how brilliant was the idea to
40 Sudden : Could you care less? If she's a member on Facebook she should also be able to stand the heat. Aim for the sky! Sudden
41 GrahamHill : No, but still, these things happens to me quite often! Well, at least she knows there are angry fans!
42 Waterpolodan : It is idiotic, like the ACO scheduling the opening LMS test day at Paul Ricard very close to the date for the 12 hours at Sebring knowing full well th
43 Sudden : That I can understand though. She knew that already. But it's even better if she gets to actually read it. Something Homer Simpson says while having
44 Sudden : For whatever it's worth, P1 has been completed. Pos 1 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 2 22 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 3 15 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Re
45 MadameConcorde : I did not have time to watch it. I was looking at the livecast of the Air France A380 delivery ceremony. Much ado about nothing, really. I should have
46 MadameConcorde : Go Hammy!!! Go Heikki!!! Go McLaren!!! Second Practice Results Friday, 30 October 2009 Position Country Driver Car number Team Fastest Lap 1 finland H
47 StealthZ : mmm... Renault out in Q1, Ferrari out in Q2.... not a good look!
48 MadameConcorde : 1. Lewis Hamilton... mmmm.... very good look!! The Large Hadron Collider will accelerate him and take him to the top! Go Hammy!!!!
49 MadameConcorde : LEWIS HAMILTON TAKES POLE FOR THE ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX Woohooo!!! It's the Large Hadron Collider!!!! Hammy's back in pole!!!!!! Go Hammy!!!!!
50 Codeshare : Looks like Lewis has learnt the track the fastest. We can have an exciting race tomorrow, perhaps some drama in the pit-lane exit. KS/codeshare
51 Codeshare : Provisional weights & grid as per f1.com : 1. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 658.5kg 2. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 663 3. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 660 4. Rub
52 Post contains links Scbriml : The fuel adjusted grid still shows Hamilton comfortably fastest. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/f1mole/20...bc-sports-fueladjusted-abu-dh.html
53 Andz : What happened to Richard Branson's arm? I just saw him on the grid with his right arm in a sling, I can't find anything online.
54 Andz : Nice fly-by by Etihad!
55 Kit777 : Great fly-by, pity Jake Humphrey called it an Emirates 747!
56 Andz : Our commentator at least said an Airbus fly by when it was first shown
57 MadameConcorde : I am on a Spanish channel. Did not show the Airbus flyover. I hope Hammy will win this one. What a beautiful racing track!!
58 Andz : What is that HUGE pavilion with the Ferrari logo on the roof?
59 Flyboysp : I believe it is something called Ferrari World
60 MIAspotter : Isn't that the Ferrari World Park? MIAspotter.
61 MadameConcorde : Kimi is cauliflowers. Newbie Kobayashi is ahead of him. Romain Slowjean is at the 18th place. Vettetl is putting a lot of pressure on Hammy.
62 Andz : Thanks, I must have a look online.
63 Andz : Hamilton retires, sad luck.
64 GrahamHill : "Hammy" is out.....
65 MIAspotter : And Hammy is out... Isn't F1 Exciting...
66 GrahamHill : Not on this shite track!!!
67 BlueElephant : Yes Ferrari World, but it's not complete yet from what I understand. Very disappointing as now the race could very well be extremely boring. It looke
68 BlueElephant : Hey it's more interesting then Valencia. Anything is better then Valencia....oh...and Nurber-ring (in the dry)....and Magny Cour :-P I'm impressed wi
69 Andz : MotoGP at Valencia next weekend
70 MIAspotter : This morning on the Spanish Channel that shows F1 (La Sexta) they showed a documentary on how they build this racetrack, quite interesting. MIAspotte
71 BlueElephant : I bet that's the actual circuit. I was talking about the street circuit in the harbour. I do have to say I think this is better then that for sure...
72 GrahamHill : Ah, Valencia is another one! And Barhain, Singapore, Shanghai, Kuala Lumpur and so on. All the Tilke ones, basically. The only one he has done correc
73 BlueElephant : I've gotta say I rather like Singapore and Kuala Lampur.... Shanghai's not terrible, Turkey is ok. Bahrain is boring....especially because there is no
74 MIAspotter : Don't forget Spa and Monza!! MIAspotter.
75 MadameConcorde : I LOVE Kobayashi... my new sweetheart... I have got two now! Seriously, he is really impressive... Hammy was out of luck today... the car again!
76 BlueElephant : Keep in mind after 3 years in F1....This was Hamilton's FIRST MECHANICAL Retirement.
77 GrahamHill : I like Suzuka and Montreal as well The old Hockenheim was nice. The new one is just bland. Yeah, with Monaco, they're my top 3!
78 MadameConcorde : Vettel is doing a really fine race, so is Mark Webber. These two are great drivers. Now I would love to see Kobayashi on the podium! About Hammy I thi
79 BlueElephant : Can't believe I forgot Spa and Monza....I like Spa a lot more then Monza though. Congrats to Vettel....Great race from him.. Looks like McLaren's goin
80 BlueElephant : Congrats to Vettel, great little scrap there at the end between Button and Webber, although slightly disappointed that Button didn't pull it off. I'm
81 MadameConcorde : I enjoyed watching this GP. I really liked the really beaufitul Yas Marina setting and racing track. AbuDhabi is a Monaco x 10 financially speaking. L
82 Sudden : Well, I guess FIA need to work hard to make a more boring track then this one. What a waste of money. And this drive in the dark thing just got even m
83 T1210s : couldn't have put it better myself its way to forgiving with massive run offs and no gravel traps. An extremely boring race apart from Kobayashi show
84 Baroque : What an odd season. Interesting bit for second place right at the end though. If the 2008-2009 changes are any guide, 2010 will be quite another surpr
85 MadameConcorde : I can only agree with what you are saying here. Kobayashi should become Toyota's Nr 1 driver. This will be a very long 10 weeks.
86 GrahamHill : I watched the start + the first 10 laps and then I switched off my TV. I did not want to be a witness of this joke GP.
87 Sudden : I guess I should have written Bernie instead of FIA. Aim for the sky! Sudden
88 MadameConcorde : The FOFA folks seem to agree with most of you on the uselessness of the AbuDhabi racing track and F1 complex. I would have liked being there to see it
89 GrahamHill : I share the point of vue of the two FOFA comments.
90 Post contains links BlueElephant : Not for you Madam C. Our friends at Autosport say that Kobayashi's drive is nearly assured for 2010 http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79960
91 L410Turbolet : Having a Toyota employee in my immediate family I certainly share his hopes that Toyota will follow the example of Honda and BMW and pulls out of F1
92 LTU932 : And for those who don't know, MotoGP uses a different track in Valencia, specifically a closed track, not the street track used by F1 in the harbour.
93 MadameConcorde : Koba is aggressive and daring. This is the kind of driver I like to see. Look how he overtook Button today. It was really amazing to see this coming
94 L410Turbolet : Brno circuit in its present format is supposed to be too narrow for F1, even worse than Hungaroring. Last but not least money comes in F1 only in the
95 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Abu Dhabi was greatly helped by all the sponsoring they did for Ferrari. Think Mubala and you wil understand why there was a GP there today. http://w
96 T1210s : Reminded me of when Irvine unlapped himself by overtaking Senna and got punched in the face for his effort
97 LTU932 : Personally, I could care less. It would be a better alternative than curves that are so wide, you don't even need to do any steering at all. Good poi
98 Codeshare : Until Lewis was in the race it was interesting, he had a chance for a win. When he retired it was all pretty boring. Apart from Button vs Webber maybe
99 Post contains links Sudden : Folks, I have started the off season thread... F1 Off Season 2009/2010 (by Sudden Nov 1 2009 in Non Aviation) Aim for the sky! Sudden
100 Andz : Thanks I didn't know that, I only watch F1 when there is absolutely nothing else on.
101 MadameConcorde : Any idea what brand of champagne they had in Abu Dhabi to give the winners? I did not recognize Pommery or any of the usual brands associated with F1.
102 Sudden : It was actually water. Aim for the sky! Sudden
103 GrahamHill : So not only their track is bland, but also the podium ceremony!
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