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2009 MLS Cup Playoffs Thread  
User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

Not sure how many MLS (Major League Soccer, for the unenlightened  Smile ) fans are on this board, but here goes...

It's gone down to the wire for several teams looking to get into the MLS Cup Playoffs, but today's games have cleared up the picture a bit. Here's the playoff picture as it stands prior to Sunday's final two games (point totals in parentheses):

West Automatic Qualifiers: Los Angeles Galaxy (48), Seattle Sounders (47)

East Automatic Qualifiers: Columbus Crew (49), Chicago Fire (45)

Wild Cards: Houston Dynamo (45), Chivas USA (45), Real Salt Lake (40), Colorado Rapids (40)

(Note that if a conference sends more than 2 wild cards, the lowest-ranked wild card(s) are seeded at the bottom of the other conference's playoff bracket.)

At this point, the only undecided spot is the final wild card spot, which the New England Revolution (39 points) could take from Colorado with a win or draw in their game tomorrow at Columbus. Also yet to be decided is the seeding in the West, as Houston and Chivas play tomorrow. A win for either team would seed them second in the West, while a draw would leave Houston 3rd and Chivas 4th.

As a Sounders fan, I'll certainly be rooting for Houston tomorrow - the Sounders have a 1-0-1 record against them (plus a victory in the US Open Cup), but an 0-2-1 record against our other possible first round opponent, Chivas.


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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3662 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1434 times:

Go Dynamo! Bring back another MLS title to Houston!


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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3385 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

The road to glory goes through Toyota Park.

Quoting Yellowstone (Thread starter):
As a Sounders fan,

BOOOOOOOOO!


P.S. Where were all of the fans when the Sounders were in the USL?



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineBhill From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 963 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

USL? Paleeze...besides, once the Kingdome was imploded..nowhere to play. Anyways, it doesn't matter..EVERY match sold out, >30,000 a game...errr...what was yer point? Yep, and Houston played for the tie..well we beat them when it counted already if memory serves right..oh it does... FOR THE OPEN CUP!!!!, pushed ya'all right out of the playoffs..oh yeah and this:

W 2-1 7/11/09
W 2-1 7/21/09
D 1-1 8/23/09...on their pitch....


Can't wait for November 8th....



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3662 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1397 times:



Quoting Bhill (Reply 3):
Can't wait for November 8th....

And the game will be on home turf! Advantage Dynamo! Forever Orange Baby!!!



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2754 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

I'm pulling for the Fire. I'd like to see them win this season since it looks like Blanco might not be back for next season.

Quoting Yellowstone (Thread starter):
As a Sounders fan

Didn't you hear? They've been renamed.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5730/manboobsqwest.jpg



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26426 posts, RR: 76
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1376 times:



Quoting NWAESC (Reply 2):

P.S. Where were all of the fans when the Sounders were in the USL?

They were there. Hence why they moved up to the MLS.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

When the Sounders were in the USL, my dad would frequently referee (his hobby  Yeah sure) them at Qwest, and I cheered on the Sounders every game.

We had tickets to the game last night but we were too busy to go  Sad


User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3385 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1368 times:



Quoting Bhill (Reply 3):
USL? Paleeze...besides, once the Kingdome was imploded..nowhere to play.

Didn't stop 'em from trying Starfire...

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 5):
Didn't you hear? They've been renamed.

LOL.

Best. Sign. Ever. I wonder if David Falk found it offensive?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
They were there. Hence why they moved up to the MLS.

Um, no they weren't. Their attendance was consistently terrible.



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26426 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1366 times:



Quoting NWAESC (Reply 8):

Um, no they weren't. Their attendance was consistently terrible.

Relative to what? They were a minor league soccer team.



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User currently offlineNwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3385 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1358 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
Relative to what? They were a minor league soccer team.

Relative to any metric you want.

* Rest of the USL

* Relative to other sports in SEA

* Relative to the size of the city/metro area

* Relative to the number of PDX fans that would routinely make the drive up I-5

*etc., etc., etc.

It's just very convenient that now that SEA are in MLS, that all of these people came out of the woodwork. Where were all of you before, and why weren't you supporting your hometown team?



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineThreeifbyair From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 674 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1346 times:



Quoting Nwaesc (Reply 10):
Relative to any metric you want.

* Rest of the USL

* Relative to other sports in SEA

* Relative to the size of the city/metro area

* Relative to the number of PDX fans that would routinely make the drive up I-5

*etc., etc., etc.

It's just very convenient that now that SEA are in MLS, that all of these people came out of the woodwork. Where were all of you before, and why weren't you supporting your hometown team?

If the sport is so popular (allegedly) in other American cities, where are the fans? Including European clubs, Seattle is 49th in average attendance. The next highest American club is Los Angeles (101st).

On topic, Columbus is about to make an epic choke @ RSL unless it can pull one back in the next few minutes.


User currently offlineBhill From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 963 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

From the Seattle Times:

Sounders FC fans are recognized as the loudest and most involved supporters in MLS. They set a record for merchandise purchased in one MLS season, and create a tremendous atmosphere and home-field advantage at Qwest Field. By the numbers:

16 Consecutive MLS sellouts (plus 4 sellouts for cup-related matches).

22,000 Season-ticket holders.

30,943 Average attendance, an MLS record. This figure would have ranked among the top 50 clubs in the world for 2008-09.

35,807 Attendance for first leg of playoff series against Houston, an MLS record for a conference semifinal and No. 7 all-time in MLS playoff games, including finals.

65,372 Attendance at Qwest for friendly vs. Chelsea.

66,848 Attendance at Qwest for friendly vs. FC Barcelona.

Online

• Sounders Web site, www.SoundersFC.com, is the most visited and active online community in MLS.

• The site is a supporters' site with user-generated content including blogs, forums, photos and fan feedback.



• Sounders FC has more than 51,000 supporters on Facebook, more than nearly all other MLS clubs combined. Toronto FC is next highest with 11,000-plus.

On-field achievements

• 2009 U.S. Open Cup champions.

• Best record and most goals scored by MLS expansion team since 1998.

• First expansion team to qualify for playoffs since 1998 (third total, joining Chicago and Miami, both 1998).

In the community

• Sounders FC set an MLS record by raising more than $23,000 for the "Nothing But Nets" program.

• More than 4,000 kids participated in Sounders youth soccer programs.

• Players, coaches and staff volunteered nearly 1,000 hours of service in Seattle area.

• Players, coaches and owners made more than 80 community appearances during the season.

• Sounders FC held votes for band and member association names and Golden Scarf recipient.

The future

• Seattle is a possible site for U.S. bid for World Cup in 2018 and 2022.

• Sounders will host Philadelphia Union in the first MLS game of the 2010 season.

• Seattle will host the MLS Cup, the league championship, on Nov. 22.


Source: Sounders FC


Cheers!!



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3662 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

Go Dynamo!!!!! FOREVER ORANGE BABY!!!!!  bigthumbsup 


The journey of life is not based on the accomplishments, but the experience.
User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3662 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1167 times:

It's Houston Dynamo vs. LA Galaxy in the Western Conference Championship!

Go Dynamo!!!!! BEAT LA!!!!! FOREVER ORANGE BABY!!!!!  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2754 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1165 times:



Quoting Bhill (Reply 12):
Sounders FC fans are recognized as the loudest and most involved supporters in MLS.

So says the Seattle Sounders own website. I'm pretty sure the Red Patch Boys in Toronto , Section 8 in Chicago, and Barra Brava/Screaming Eagles in Washington DC would dispute this.

Seattle has certainly benefitted from a perfect storm in their first MLS season.

1) The community was ready for something new after having arguably the worst sports year any city has ever had. The Mariners and Seahawks weren't very good, the Huskies went winless, and the Sonics moved to Oklahoma.

2) A well moneyed ownership group emerged with marketing savvy, access to a downtown stadium in a city with the right demographics, and a club with history back to NASL days.

3) Joining the league at time when the game of soccer was making it's biggest strides in public acceptance and support in decades.

All that said, management in Seattle has done a great job getting fans excited and in the stadium. If only they'd ban the marching band from it.  Wink

I think the point NWAESC is making is, where were these fans a couple of years ago? Why were the Sounders drawing a third the support Montreal, Rochester and Portland were drawing in USL? Why was the Timbers Army easily 10 times larger than either The Pod or Emerald City Supporters?


Quoting Threeifbyair (Reply 11):
If the sport is so popular (allegedly) in other American cities, where are the fans?

Many MLS teams have stadiums too small to rank higher, even if they sell out. I wonder how many tickets Toronto could sell if they weren't stuck in the 20,500 seat BMO Field. How many would Beckham and the Galaxy draw in a stadium larger than the 27,000 seat Home Depot Center?



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User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1156 times:



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 15):
Many MLS teams have stadiums too small to rank higher, even if they sell out. I wonder how many tickets Toronto could sell if they weren't stuck in the 20,500 seat BMO Field. How many would Beckham and the Galaxy draw in a stadium larger than the 27,000 seat Home Depot Center?

About the same, I'd guess. There's a reason why soccer-specific stadia in the US are always built in the 20k-25k range, and why soccer teams based in American football stadia always tarp off the upper decks.



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2754 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1154 times:



Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 16):
About the same, I'd guess. There's a reason why soccer-specific stadia in the US are always built in the 20k-25k range, and why soccer teams based in American football stadia always tarp off the upper decks.

In many markets like Denver and Dallas I'd agree with you, but I chose Toronto and LA for specific reasons. Toronto has a season ticket base of 16,000 and waiting list of 14,000. Clearly they could use a stadium larger than their 20,500 capacity. The Galaxy IIRC averaged around 26,000 last season in a 27k stadium, and probably could have sold out every match if their tickets weren't so expensive.



It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems with just potatoes.
User currently offlineBhill From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 963 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1131 times:

Alias...it's because they were not a Major League team..as such we were not able to see the likes of Keller, Ljundberg (sp?) and the other veteran high caliber players tha have come to town..we also have a minor league baseball team and I don't attend those games either..BTW, CONGRATULATIONS Houston...good match, well played..now go out and buy a bigger grown up full size pitch...and either grow real grass or get the pitch re-turfed...until next year!!


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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3662 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1128 times:



Quoting Bhill (Reply 18):
now go out and buy a bigger grown up full size pitch...and either grow real grass or get the pitch re-turfed...until next year!!

There's rumblings of building a brand new stadium here in Houston for the Dynamo, and those rumblings will be much louder if we get our 3rd MLS Cup. The plans look rather simple and will be shared with Texas Southern University football team since they have no stadium of their own and the proposed location is near Minute Maid Park just north of Downtown Houston on the otherside of 59 where the old Chinatown used to be. I believe it will also be rather accessible to public transit since it will be near one of the new light rail lines being built up here in Houston.

Some renderings can be seen here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=38662914&postcount=1353

It will all boil down to who becomes the new mayor of the city and whether they are pro or anti new stadium and city developments.



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