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How? Oasis Of The Seas 72 M, Bridge 66 M Tall.  
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3701 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 17133 times:

Thursday, the worlds alrgest cruiseship, Royal Caribbean's Oasis of the Seas leaves the yard in Finland. On Saturday the ship will have to pass the Storebælt bridge in Denmark.

The ship is 72 meters tall and the bridge is 65 meters tall. How do they do that ?


Here is the answer:


- Telescopic chimmneys will be installed that can be lowered 6.15 meters

- The ship will pass under the bridge at low tide

- The captain will pass at full throttle ( 140 000 horse power ), wich will lower the ship even further down in the water.

All of this will give the ship a clearance of 1.5 meters



The telescopic chimmneys will be used this one time only. Once the ship reaches germany they will be replaced by ordenary chimneys

The cost of these telescopic chimmneys and the use of them this one time only will be 12 million NOK...


http://www.nettavisen.no/reise/article2741861.ece

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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 17126 times:
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Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
wich will lower the ship even further down in the water.

Taking advantage of the same conditions that caused the grounding of the QE2 off Massachusetts in 1992 in waters deeper than her keel!



EDIT, Corrected name of ship

[Edited 2009-10-27 05:10:34]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 17094 times:

Talking about the QE2 I do not like these new mega-ships.

The Carnival Dream was in town the other day. She is only one month old.
I did not like her looks.
Even the Queen Victoria looks like a Beauty Queen compared with these new sea beasts.
Vickie will be here next week for her last visit of 2009 to MonteCarlo/Monaco.

I am waiting to see the Oasis of the Seas down here but they generally send them out to Villefranche, for some strange reason their ships don't come to Monaco.



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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 17090 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 2):
The Carnival Dream was in town the other day. She is only one month old.
I did not like her looks.

Carnival ships looks like car ferries. The Royal Caribbean ships are much more elegant with much sleeker lines.


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3288 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 17060 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 2):
Even the Queen Victoria looks like a Beauty Queen compared with these new sea beasts.

One person's beast is another's beauty.

I couldn't imagine a better way to take a week-long skirt around the Caribbean. At least not having to deal with people who can't seem to get their nose level to the horizon.



"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 17044 times:
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Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):
One person's beast is another's beauty.

I couldn't imagine a better way to take a week-long skirt around the Caribbean.

Ah, but like Guy de Maupassant you can cruise in the "beast" at your hearts content because you do not have to look at them!!!



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User currently offlineAverageUser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 17038 times:

Chairman's blog may be useful in these days during the delivery.

[Edited 2009-10-27 06:18:57]

User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8739 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 17026 times:



Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
- The captain will pass at full throttle ( 140 000 horse power ), wich will lower the ship even further down in the water.

That must be some adrenalin push not only for the captain. Do they close the bridge or are tickets sold for onlookers at the central point?



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4773 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 17001 times:



Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
- The captain will pass at full throttle ( 140 000 horse power ), wich will lower the ship even further down in the water.

Would it not be safer to load the ship with ballast?



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User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 17001 times:

I love the look of RC ships. I can't wait to sail on the beast.


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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 16979 times:



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8):
Would it not be safer to load the ship with ballast?

even easier to just tow it under the bridge then attach the chimneys at the other end.



That'll teach you
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 16965 times:



Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
The cost of these telescopic chimmneys and the use of them this one time only will be 12 million NOK...

Not once but twice she has a sister ship, Allure of the Seas, I'm sure they will be transported back to Finland and used again. I wouldn't be surprised if they have used them on the previous Freedom Class vessels which are only 1.5 meters shorter.


User currently offlineCurtisMan From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 16950 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 2):

I was on the Carnival Dream in Monaco 2 days ago - small world.

I do enjoy these super liners and the Dream is beautiful inside. Was a great cruise and Monaco is always a pleasure to visit.



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User currently offlineAverageUser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 16900 times:



Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 11):
I wouldn't be surprised if they have used them on the previous Freedom Class vessels which are only 1.5 meters shorter.

I recall reading for the Freedom class ships the "full speed ahead" treatment to pass the bridge was adequate,


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 16860 times:



Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 11):
Not once but twice she has a sister ship, Allure of the Seas, I'm sure they will be transported back to Finland and used again. I wouldn't be surprised if they have used them on the previous Freedom Class vessels which are only 1.5 meters shorter.

No, they just pased under the bridge at full throttle and at low tide.


User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 16837 times:

Why didn't they pass the Øresund? There the height wouldn't have played a role.

pelican


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 16828 times:



Quoting CurtisMan (Reply 12):
I was on the Carnival Dream in Monaco 2 days ago - small world.

So that was you out there on the Ship?  alert 












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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5909 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 16793 times:



Quoting Pelican (Reply 15):
Why didn't they pass the Øresund? There the height wouldn't have played a role.

Only 57 metres of clearance under the Øresund Bridge.

IIRC Finland made a bit of fuss about both bridge (Øresund and Great Belt) back in the day, since their ship- & oilrig-building industries would be limited in terms of how big they could build.


User currently offlineMarSciGuy From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 16758 times:



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 1):

Taking advantage of the same conditions that caused the grounding of the QE2 off Massachusetts in 1992 in waters deeper than her keel!

The terminology for this effect is "squat", and it is even more effective when the water depth is not much greater then the vessels' draft.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8):

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
- The captain will pass at full throttle ( 140 000 horse power ), wich will lower the ship even further down in the water.

Would it not be safer to load the ship with ballast?

It would take an ENORMOUS amount of ballast to lower a vessel of that sizes' highest point by a meter or more! (The displacement on these ships is nearly beyond belief)

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 10):

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8):
Would it not be safer to load the ship with ballast?

even easier to just tow it under the bridge then attach the chimneys at the other end.

I'm no engineer, marine or otherwise, but from going to college with a whole crapload of them (of the marine variety) I believe you basically have to have a funnel of some sort in order for everything to function properly - however I could be fully and completely off base on this point  Smile



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User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 16731 times:



Quoting CPH-R (Reply 17):
Only 57 metres of clearance under the Øresund Bridge.

Øresundsbroen is for sure too low, but there is the gap over the Drogdentunnel where height wouldn't play a role.

pelican


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5909 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 16720 times:



Quoting Pelican (Reply 19):
Øresundsbroen is for sure too low, but there is the gap over the Drogdentunnel where height wouldn't play a role.

Not deep enough. The water at the Drogden-tunnel is only 8 meters deep - and the Oasis draws 9 metres  Wink


User currently offlineAverageuser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 16628 times:

The ship will sail from Turku early Friday morning, provided the winds are below 5-8 m/s. (The ship will have to navigate the shallow passage through the archipelago.) The uninterrupted voyage to Ft. Lauderdale will take 11 days at the speed of 18 knots.


http://www.ts.fi/online/talous/84146.html


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18679 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16573 times:



Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):

I couldn't imagine a better way to take a week-long skirt around the Caribbean.

Perhaps not a skirt around, but I think my next trip to the Caribbean will be spent at Maho Beach, St. Maarten. I hear there's some decent spotting there.  cloudnine 


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3288 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 16536 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 22):
I hear there's some decent spotting there.

What on earth gave you that idea?  cheerful 



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2314 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16514 times:

Would be cool to stand either on the top floor of the ship or see the action from the bridge.. they could earn some of the money spent on those chimneys if they sold tickets for the event.

25 Alfa75 : I am surprised it has taken this long for someone to mention that this thread is worthless without pictures!
26 DocLightning : So, slightly OT, but can someone explain ship squat to me? Why does it happen?
27 CPH-R : I'm fairly sure that the last person who will be able to stand on the bridge and wave at a ship, without getting in serious trouble, was HM The Queen
28 Post contains links Goldenshield : It's the same thing that makes an airplane fly: Bernoulli's Principle. More about it here.
29 LTBEWR : I am very concerned about these new superships for pax and freighters. We have seen many terrible situations as to supertakers of oil if something goe
30 Post contains links and images Averageuser : Let's see if this one sticks.
31 CurtisMan : I was indeed onboard that ship then walking around Monaco! I'm enjoying this thread. I like the idea of speeding up the ship to make it go lower in t
32 Post contains links Averageuser : According to info on a Finnish maritime forum, the ship was due to sail 6:45 today Friday, with the forecast winds favourable 2-6 m/s. I'm guesstimati
33 MadameConcorde : Definitely! Any of you making stops in Monaco on your cruises, send me a private message ahead of time we can arrange a meet-up. I will be happy to s
34 Post contains links Averageuser : It's announced the ship will call Southhampton, but will not moor there, ETA 12:30 Nov 02. Arrival in Ft Lauderdale is scheduled at Nov. 11. Tracking
35 Post contains images HangarRat : The thought of a ship too tall to pass under the Veranzano Narrows bridge makes me a little dizzy, having sailed under it myself in a relatively smal
36 GQfluffy : Hopefully you will bring your camera with you and share with the rest of us?
37 MadameConcorde : Oh yes definitely. I hope the ship will be accessible close-by. Captain Ian McNaught better dock her at the pier providing that the Monaco Port Autho
38 KiwiRob : Interesting point, Oasis of the Seas lifeboats take 370 people most cruise ships have a maximum of 150 per lifeboat, it's going to take a while to lo
39 Post contains links and images AirPacific747 : So this is approximately what it will look like when the ship passes below the Storebælt bridge:
40 MarSciGuy : Out of curiousity, are you sure it is MLW vs MLLW? As a former hydro person, we always reported MLLW to NOS... Abbreviation definitions for those who
41 MadameConcorde : Impressive! That is one monster cruise ship! As to Vickie, she is delayed. She will be here on the 2nd of November, Monday morning, early arrival at 7
42 2707200X : The Oasis is almost a totally new ship, she is not a simple growth variant like the Freedom class is to the Voyager class. This ship will be a head tu
43 KFLLCFII : Gonna try to get pics of her arrival in Lauderdale. Should be able to make it after work.
44 StealthZ : raises a couple of questions.. With possibility of over 8000 people on board, what do the last 1500 or so do?(or is that the traditional- go down wit
45 Mortyman : The ship is 40 % bigger than any other cruiseship...
46 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I will have to check and see if this mega-ship is programmed in Monaco next year. New Lizzie will visit here on her maiden voyage. I am not sure about
47 Post contains images JCKastrup : According to danish media the ship will pass the bridge at 2130 danish time tonight. The bridge will not be closed for traffic. Below is a picture of
48 MadameConcorde : Will there be a livecast anywhere on the internet from the bridge when the ship sails under it?
49 JCKastrup : I haven't heard of anything like that. It will probably be too dark to see anything anyway.
50 Post contains links AverageUser : Here's a webcam: http://www.trafikken.dk/wimpdoclet.asp?page=document&objno=117000 Info from the ridge website: http://www.storebaelt.dk/omstorebaelt
51 MadameConcorde : Thank you for the links. I went on the Oasis website and listened to the Captain's log. Mr Captain Wright seems to be a nice man and he seems very hap
52 Post contains links AverageUser : FYI: http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/# is tracking nicely at the moment.
53 MadameConcorde : Thank you for the idea. I am on the ship tracker and it looks like Big Ship is about to go under the bridge. Must check the webcam see if I get any vi
54 PlymSpotter : Something I've been wondering is, why didn't they plan to sail the ship under the bridge late during a February or March night? The colder temperature
55 GQfluffy : You're applying logic in a place where logic has been verboten. I'm sure they would rather finish the fitting out process over the holidays and have h
56 MadameConcorde : Must be quite a sight seeing Big Ship racing under that bridge! They should temporarily rename her Formula 1 of the Seas!
57 Post contains links and images AverageUser : Ok, there goes the ship: http://www.sn.dk/webtv?video=617 By the tracking data, my guesstimation was right, it did pass on Sunday (my time, forgot the
58 MadameConcorde : " target=_blank>http://www.sn.dk/webtv?video=617 Wow! they did it!!! Thank you for posting this video. This is a keeper! Congrats to Mr Capain Wright
59 Post contains links CPH-R : A better angle (closer to side-on) can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc3hnAKeKOc - I liked the little shout in the background just as
60 Post contains links Asuflyer05 : Here's a shot from onboard. The first bit of the video is a little dark but it gives you a decent perspective as the ship passes under the bridge. htt
61 Post contains links MadameConcorde : MegaShip is making the news. Here in French. Oasis of the Seas, la croisière s’amuse… en XXL C’est le plus grand et le plus cher paquebot jamai
62 Post contains links Mortyman : Ship-limbo http://www.vg.no/reise/artikkel.php?artid=584701
63 Post contains links AverageUser : "This is how it looked shortly after midnight when the world's biggest cruise ship passed the Great Belt bridge, with the chimneys telescoped down, an
64 MadameConcorde : Quite amazing to see how they did it, I agree. It is nice to see that many people made the trip to see Mega-Ship passing under the bridge in the nigh
65 AverageUser : The captain said in the article that there are no guests onboard, the ship's complement has been said to be 2,165, and I suppose some of the yard's e
66 MadameConcorde : I think it is the ship yard workers who most deserve the trip! I hope they will all have a jolly good time on board during the voyage. I like Mr. Capt
67 Tugger : Wow! Impressive! Very tight, I can imagine there were some other things that were very tight as the ship approached the bridge at speed. I can bet the
68 Yellowstone : Colder temps also mean denser water, which would result in the ship riding higher. I'm not sure which effect would outweigh the other.
69 2707200X : Acording to Yahoo news via the AP, the clearence was less that 2 feet or a half meter gap between the top of the funnels and the low section of the br
70 MadameConcorde : Some of the videos showed this quite clearly. The pass was extremely close to the bridge. Down here in Monaco, the Queen Victoria cruisers are out fo
71 AirPacific747 : A sister ship of the same size is being built in Finland now, right?
72 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Well... I hope they will find the clients for all the upcoming mega-ships! in the meanwhile... Vickie Queen of Cunardival left Monte Carlo 3 hours la
73 NA : There are still vacancies on Oasis´ maiden voyage. Surely a bad sign. For comparison Queen Elizabeth´s first cruise next year is sold out since a l
74 AverageUser : Well there goes our 90% taxpayer guarantee ... anyone here interested in owning a luxury cruiser?
75 MadameConcorde : Yes, definitely. I want to buy Queen Lizzie 2 from Nakheel and get her out of Port Rashid before they send her to the scrapyard for the cost of metal
76 StealthZ : Sadly Madame, I fear you are correct. The house of cards that was Nakheel & Dubai in general seems to have collapsed and will soon be reclaimed by th
77 Mortyman : Mr. William Wright is the chief captain of all the captains in the Royal Caribbean fleet. He will only control the ship over the Atlantic on it's maid
78 MadameConcorde : Norwegians are very good sea farers so I am sure these two captains will do very well. I was wondering... in the places where OotS won't dock, how wi
79 Post contains images Scooter01 : The old S/S NORWAY -(S/S FRANCE to you..) used two tenders, the "Little Norway" I and II -if they copy this idea, maybe they'll come up with some cat
80 KFLLCFII : T-minus one day to Fort Lauderdale, after a delay through rough weather. Still deciding whether or not to go down to see the arrival. Not exactly a sh
81 2707200X : The Oasis came to Port Everglades yesterday, it is very huge, I saw passengers in it but not revenue I don't think. The first service starts in Decemb
82 Gxman : These two ships won't ever sail from NY Harbor. They're intended to only cruise the Caribbean and only to the largest ports. They are a destination u
83 2707200X : I think anywhere else out of it's main destinations in the Caribbean, the Oasis will need purpose built tender boats to transfer passengers.
84 Post contains links CPH-R : In case people hadn't seen it, the Oasis crew have been running a video-log type thing on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/royalcaribbeanoasis
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