September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2312 times:
On October 28, 2009, Federal Bureau of Investigation K-9 Freddy lost his life in the line of duty. Freddy will be returned home to Quantico, Virginia. A memorial will be held at Quantico and Freddy's name will be added to a memorial wall.
PJFlysFast From United States of America, joined May 2006, 463 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
A police K-9 is a police officer and they have a job to do that we as human beings cannot do. They are truly some of today's heroes who's job requires them to do very dangerous tasks and they do it know questions asked. Mans best friends saving lives and sacrificing himself for his team. All I hope is that the person who killed him gets what he deserves because that dog had nothing to do with him being put in that situation.
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16831 posts, RR: 57 Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2287 times:
Awww... he was beautiful! I know his death will upset any other dog lovers out there, too. But I hope he gets to run around in that big, open grass field in the sky where there are endless other dogs' butts to sniff, endless people throwing balls to fetch, and as many treats as he wants!
Force13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2268 times:
Execute the bastard who killed Freddy!
I seriously like animals more than most people. And they are hero's for what they do and his life should be celebrated.
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NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2190 times:
Belgian Malinois are so awesome. Fearless and loyal and the best crime dog. Glad they are giving him this memorial for his service. Like has been stated they are law enforcement and are key to our safety.
Johns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 766 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2138 times:
Quoting Force13 (Reply 3): Execute the bastard who killed Freddy!
Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 1): All I hope is that the person who killed him gets what he deserves because that dog had nothing to do with him being put in that situation.
Force13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2134 times:
Sudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4127 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2062 times:
Sad to read, but the truth behind all this is that a K-9 is sent in to dangerous areas before the agent himself, to catch a bullet if it comes down to it. The "positive" side of it as that the dog doesn't know this, and only does what it's been trained to do.
Freddy was not only an FBI dog, but also a family member cause he most likely lived together with his handler and family.
May he rest in peace, and strength to his family.
Fr8Mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 4265 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2044 times:
Quoting Sudden (Reply 9): Sad to read, but the truth behind all this is that a K-9 is sent in to dangerous areas before the agent himself, to catch a bullet if it comes down to it. The "positive" side of it as that the dog doesn't know this, and only does what it's been trained to do.
Actually, no. The dog is not there to catch a bullet. The dog is there to do what an agent or officer can not do or can not do as well as the dog. Occasionally, this does mean that the dog is exposed to a more elevated threat, but I don't know one K-9 officer that would send his dog in to catch a bullet, not one.
Sudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4127 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2023 times:
Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 10): The dog is not there to catch a bullet
In a situation where the officer does not feel it's safe to go in and arrest someone due to that this person might be armed, a K-9 will be sent in. Of course not to get hurt or killed, but to disarm the threat so the officer(s) can proceed with an arrest. But if this means that the dog will be shot, so be it. They rather sacrifice the dog then the officer. That's how it works. So yes, the dog is there to catch a bullet if needed, as the dog is an extension of the officers arm.
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5673 posts, RR: 29 Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1826 times:
Quoting Force13 (Reply 3): Execute the bastard who killed Freddy!
They shot the guy. However a few days latter masses came out for the funeral of the "terrorist" the FBI shot. Also he was praised by many members of the community as being a really great guy. It amazes me that people could think this guy was so great, when even the leftist Detroit Free Press had nothing good to say about him and his gang of radicals.
Where is PETA in all this? A few days ago they come down on an NBA player for killing a bat, but are silent when it comes to a radical jihadist killing a dog....
EIJFK From Ireland, joined Jul 2008, 119 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1712 times:
Quoting Force13 (Reply 3): I seriously like animals more than most people.
You are NOT the only there, friend!
It's times like this that I get all flustered and have the urge to donate money to the fund mentioned, along with the ASPCA, ISPCA, Irish Guidedogs etc. etc.
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5673 posts, RR: 29 Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1655 times:
You hear the crap going on about this case now. Some Detroit lawyer is trying to play up that that nut that was killed by the FBI was no terrorist, but just a bystander who happened to there helping his friends move furniture. According to the lawyer's statement on the radio today all of the men were wrongly targeted by the FBI. Lawyers who defend the enemies of this nation are no better than the enemy themselves.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11714 posts, RR: 52 Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1636 times:
RIP, Freddie. You are atrue friend and hero. Thank you for fighting some of the scum criminals who walk among us.
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16831 posts, RR: 57 Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1609 times:
Quoting Falstaff (Reply 16): Lawyers who defend the enemies of this nation are no better than the enemy themselves.
So you believe that there are some people who should not have the right to legal representation in a court of law? I suggest you leave the U.S. immediately and move to China, Cuba, or Iran. You will be much happier in any of those places. After all, if you're guilty, who needs a silly thing like a trial?
In fact, the public defenders who represent these people are the true heroes, because they do the job that nobody else wants to do, and they do it for very little money.
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5673 posts, RR: 29 Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1589 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 18): So you believe that there are some people who should not have the right to legal representation in a court of law?
No, I don't consider enemies of the country to be criminals. Their acts against the United states (or anywhere else) should be considered acts of war. Criminals deserve a fair trail in a public court. Those who are enemies or combatants against this country should not be tried in a court system. The military should deal with them. I would treat them the same as a non uniformed soldier, treat them as spies.
Those people are at war with us and should be treated accordingly.
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16831 posts, RR: 57 Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1564 times:
Quoting Falstaff (Reply 19):
No, I don't consider enemies of the country to be criminals. Their acts against the United states (or anywhere else) should be considered acts of war.
I see. And what, exactly, defines the difference between a crime and an act of war? That's a very slippery slope. You could argue that speeding is an act against the United States because it endangers our citizens.
I hear the most stunning statements on this board that seem to support the conversion of the U.S. to a totalitarian regime where the Bill of Rights has no meaning. And often it's out of the most vehement flag-wavers.
Flighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 7451 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1557 times:
It is a tragedy if the dog was killed in the line of duty.
If the investigation was rightful, then the guy should be punished.
If the investigation was not legitimate, then the FBI should be punished for harassing people and getting their own dog killed. The police are not always right.
Quoting Falstaff (Reply 16): Lawyers who defend the enemies of this nation are no better than the enemy themselves.
I assume you are talking about the USA? Your attitude reminds me of other countries, not the USA.
Rlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 989 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1510 times:
Police dogs are having a harder time and many are getting stabbed. The bad guys have figured out to wrap two shin guards around thier forearm and if they get chased by a dog they stop and turn to the dog holding out the arm. And just like in the training videos the dog jumps up and clamps on to the arm. Then the dog gets it's throat cut and the bad guy gets away.
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5673 posts, RR: 29 Reply 23, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1496 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20): I see. And what, exactly, defines the difference between a crime and an act of war?
Islamic Jihad. That is all it takes, in my opinion.
The Bill of Rights should have no meaning to anybody who is not a citizen of the USA. When I travel outside of the USA I expect none of the rights I have here. Those that are not US citizens should expect none of the rights granted by the US Constitution.
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6 Reply 24, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1463 times:
Quoting Falstaff (Reply 23):
The Bill of Rights should have no meaning to anybody who is not a citizen of the USA.
Well, it does. Equal protection under the law, 14th Amendment. Otherwise, what's the point?
Quoting Falstaff (Reply 23): When I travel outside of the USA I expect none of the rights I have here.
But you'll still get them in most countries, North Korea a notable exception. Or are you advocating Kim Jong-il is a model leader?
Steeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 8816 posts, RR: 19 Reply 25, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1456 times:
Poor doggie... God bless him!!
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2): But I hope he gets to run around in that big, open grass field in the sky where there are endless other dogs' butts to sniff, endless people throwing balls to fetch, and as many treats as he wants!
Hey, you forgot the endless fire hydrants and pictures of Madoff, Osama Bin Laden, and every other corrupt bastard known to mankind for him to relieve himself on!
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