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Wall Street Gets Its H1N1 Shots First.  
User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8873 posts, RR: 10
Posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#33651691

This reported by NBC on the Today Show how Wall Street seems to be first in line for the H1N1 flu vaccine. The same old names again it seems. Special Treatment as usual? Is it fair?
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User currently offlineJRDC930 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1803 times:

No its not fair. But we live in a capitalist nation, so anyone with money is automatically better and more valuable than the poor. Frankly i think the morons on wall street should be barred from getting the vaccine...let the jerks die, for sinking us into a recession i say. The more money you have them more intrinsically valueable it makes you, at least in the US, its screwed up i know, but nothing is gonna change untill we wake up and switch to full blown socialism. This is just an example of how the wealthy are basically the royalty of the US...so much for equality right?

User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Soon, they will be the only people to receive any health care at all. Average people will not be able to afford care. It's simple, get sick, time to die. Sorry but that's where I think this is going. Of course they don't want to pay for national health care, they just want a pure cash market for doctors, medicine, surgery. Millionaires get the best care and regular people can find a comfortable place to lie down and get comfortable.

This comment was on topic, thanks.


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8958 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

Quoting JRDC930 (Reply 1):
No its not fair. But we live in a capitalist nation,

Pretty sure I heard them saying the GOVERNMENT is distributing the vaccines to them first. Sounds more like what you'd expect from Soviet Russia, where the well connected get preferential treatment.

[Edited 2009-11-05 17:26:35]


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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8873 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1782 times:



Quoting PPVRA (Reply 3):
Pretty sure I heard them saying the GOVERNMENT is distributing the vaccines to them first. Sounds more like what you'd expect from Soviet Russia, where the well connected get preferential treatment.

[Edited 2009-11-05 17:26:35]

Isn't that the sad dam truth. Where is the concience anymore? I can not imagine stepping in front of a child, or a sick person. I did see a man on TV who gave up his last spot for a shot to a Pregnant women. A spot of light, not like this bullshit.



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2511 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

Saw the story on the news and the person from the health dept said that the firms all had to sign an agreement that they'd only give the vaccine to "high risk" people in their offices.
Yeah, sure - I believe that one, don't you?  Yeah sure


User currently offlineJRDC930 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1740 times:



Quoting PPVRA (Reply 3):
Pretty sure I heard them saying the GOVERNMENT is distributing the vaccines to them first. Sounds more like what you'd expect from Soviet Russia, where the well connected get preferential treatment.

Actually, Soviet Russia would have given it to government officials first; unlike wall street government officials are USEFUL and valuable. Here the government gives it to the rich because the rich buy politicians; because our government thinks the rich are somehow better than normal poor people. It IS capitalism.


User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

Canada has started to give H1N1 shots to those in a "high risk" category and NHL players......yes, i'm serious.


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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8958 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

Quoting JRDC930 (Reply 6):
Actually, Soviet Russia would have given it to government officials first; unlike wall street government officials are USEFUL and valuable.

Eh, last I checked Goldman Sachs pretty much is the Government. And no, government officials are the definition of "pathetically useless".

Quoting JRDC930 (Reply 6):
Here the government gives it to the rich because the rich buy politicians; because our government thinks the rich are somehow better than normal poor people. It IS capitalism.

That is not capitalism. Not even remotely close.

[Edited 2009-11-05 21:08:57]


"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4008 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1696 times:



Quoting JRDC930 (Reply 6):
unlike wall street government officials are USEFUL and valuable

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Best joke I've read in here so far this year.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19575 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

I got mine two days ago. My healthcare organization now has just enough... each physician has been asked to name ten patients that we consider to be the highest risk patients we have. All physicians and nurses have been vaccinated (which is most important, because now I know that I can't give it to my patients).

But this makes my blood boil, because I guarantee that any 6yo child is FAR more important to the future of this country than a Wall Street worker.


User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

In the interest of disclosure, I received a swine flu shot, but I went down to the Dallas County health department to get it (they were giving them out to anybody between newborns and 24 years old, and I am 6 weeks shy of turning 24).

This is just BS. Doctors who, as a part of their job, are regularly exposed to sick and ill people can't even get access to these vaccines, and yet they are giving them to corporations and wall street firms first?
People have every right to be outraged at this. Not only at the corporations, but at the decision makers in government who authorized this. Some bureaucrat somewhere had to sign something authorizing the release of these vaccines to these firms, and I can only hope that stories like this will lead to some heads rolling and a review of the system.
I mean, who in their right mind would give a hospital the same amount of vaccine as a corporate firm?

Quoting YooYoo (Reply 7):
Canada has started to give H1N1 shots to those in a "high risk" category and NHL players......yes, i'm serious

To be fair, one of the top Albertan health officials in the Calgary Flames scandal got fired because of this.


User currently offlineMarSciGuy From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1635 times:



Quoting JRDC930 (Reply 1):
No its not fair. But we live in a capitalist nation, so anyone with money is automatically better and more valuable than the poor.

There is a simulation we played in my schooling in a democratic society class the other day that was extraordinarily telling...it was called "Star Power" and you start off with the class divided into 3 groups. Each person picks 5 cards, and they don't know what the scoring is until later. Then you fin out the scoring and you have to trade with others for the highest cards or combination of cards. Long story short, after the first round, the winners of the first round only going "richer" while everyone else seemed to tread water...by the 3rd round, after rule making was awarded to the "richest" team, no one wanted to trade at all...

In short, it was a very very good simulation of what happens in "real life"...and demonstrated the benefits of providing equally for all in a school setting...

Sorry for being OT  Smile



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User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1631 times:



Quoting Us330 (Reply 11):
To be fair, one of the top Albertan health officials in the Calgary Flames scandal got fired because of this.

.....and more heads may roll.

Prisoners in a Toronto jail got their shots as well, while the guards did not.



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8873 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1574 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
But this makes my blood boil, because I guarantee that any 6yo child is FAR more important to the future of this country than a Wall Street worker.

I do agree, I notice, not any defenders of Wall Street showed up on this thread. I think they are wise to do so.



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