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Will Carnival Elaton/Paradise Do Longer Cruises?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

I remember Carnival Elaton/Paradise etc they used to do longer cruises like Caribbean cruises. Not anymore. Now they go to Ensenada.......

Will they ever do longer cruises again?

I was on Carnival Freedom and we went to Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico. Superb!

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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8827 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1516 times:

Probably not for the time being, I know that Carnival Paradise based out of Long Beach does weekend cruises to Ensenada and weekday cruises to the first and to Catalina. The Elation based out of San Diego also does short term cruises to Ensenada and Catalina.

As ships in the Carnival fleet like the Jubilee, Holiday and the Tropicale retire and have retired, the Fantasy class of ships "8" will be relegated to short term cruising as well as new markets.



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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1698 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

I sailed On Carnival Elation in June 2005. The ship was very nice. We were on a 7 day Western Caribbean out of Galveston, TX.


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

I suppose they are a bit old and that's why they do short cruises only right?

But again they were built in 1998. Not really that old. And all ships get regular updates


User currently offlineFuturesdpdcop From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1293 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

The Elation will be leaving San Diego in March or May (can't remember) and move to Mobile, AL. We will not have any 3, 4, or 5 day cruises until later in the year.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

Sorry it's elation not elaton. My mistake.

Quoting Futuresdpdcop (Reply 4):
The Elation will be leaving San Diego in March or May (can't remember) and move to Mobile, AL. We will not have any 3, 4, or 5 day cruises until later in the year.

What cruise will Elation do? How many days? I mean from Mobile


User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1399 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 5):
What cruise will Elation do? How many days? I mean from Mobile

- I have a buddy who has taken several cruises out of Mobile but I do not remember what line. They have gone on 5+ day cruises and it seems like they have gone on them throughout the year. I would love to go on one sometime!

David



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6120 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1372 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 3):
But again they were built in 1998. Not really that old. And all ships get regular updates

The Fantasy class of ships was first launched in 1990, with the final ship in 1998. Concurrantly, the Destiny class of ships was launched in 1996.

This was also during the time when Royal Caribbean was starting to be a big blip on Carnival's radar. Carnival needed bigger ships ASAP, but was already locked into the Fantasy class.

As we know, Royal now has the largest cruise ships. I'm going to venture that these newest ships are pretty much spending their whole lives in the large markets of Florida and California. However, Royal and Carnival do send the smaller, older ships to second-hand markets and itineraries, which seem to do quite well. Last year, I did ORF-Bahamas-ORF on the Victory, and this year, SJU-ORF on Grandeur OTS.



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10818 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1368 times:



Quoting 2707200X (Reply 1):
the Fantasy class of ships "8" will be relegated to short term cruising as well as new markets.



Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 2):
But again they were built in 1998. Not really that old. And all ships get regular updates

The Fantasy class are the "oldest" ships in the Carnival fleet. "Fantasy" was built in 1990, I think "Elation" was the last in 98. As they have few balconies it makes them age prematurely (although, as a cruiser myself, I dont care for a private balcony, I prefer grand public spaces and the now rare tiered open decks at the stern which the balcony madness killed).


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Did Fantasy class ships do long cruises? Will they ever do long cruises again? They are not that old and I find them comfortable.

What about destiny? Do they do long cruises still?


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6120 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1352 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 9):
Did Fantasy class ships do long cruises? Will they ever do long cruises again? They are not that old and I find them comfortable.

What about destiny? Do they do long cruises still?

AFAIK, the Destiny class and larger, can pretty much do MIA-Southampton with a stop or two along the way, such as BDA and the Canaries. The Fantasy class AFAIK, was meant to be short-haul, high density, as when it was designed, cruise companies were fairly regional, with some off-shoot cruises.

I'm sure, if they bunkered in BDA and Las Palmas, they could get a Fantasy ship to Southampton if they wanted. One good thing about this class of ship, is that since the balconies are minimized, it should be able to handle the large waves seen on ocean crossings better.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

But will they do cruises like 8 days caribbean?"Or Alaskan cruises?

User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6120 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1346 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 11):
But will they do cruises like 8 days caribbean?"Or Alaskan cruises?

Probably not anymore. They are relegated to smaller secondary markets for Caribbean cruising, such as Mobile, AL, and New Orleans. Also, the Fantasy will be stuck all year at CHS, for example.

BWI, and ORF, are getting the newr ships, like Victory last year, and Glory this year.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

How come they did longer cruises before? Coz there were not enough ships?

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 12):
They are relegated to smaller secondary markets for Caribbean cruising, such as Mobile, AL, and New Orleans. Also, the Fantasy will be stuck all year at CHS, for example.

How many days?

Quoting Futuresdpdcop (Reply 4):
The Elation will be leaving San Diego in March or May (can't remember) and move to Mobile, AL. We will not have any 3, 4, or 5 day cruises until later in the year.

Heard that there will be a 8 days panama canal cruise for this. Repositioning maybe?

[Edited 2009-11-18 10:01:41]

User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6120 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1334 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 13):
How many days?

Longest I see on Fantasy is a rare 7 day cruise, but normally 4-5 days. For Fascination, 5 days looks standard. For Elation, 4-5 days, with an occasional 7 day cruise (also, a 15 day Panama canal SAN-MOB.) Ecstacy is on 4-5 days out of Houston. Paradise is doing 3-4 days out of LGB.



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User currently offlineFuturesdpdcop From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1293 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1313 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 13):
Heard that there will be a 8 days panama canal cruise for this. Repositioning maybe?

Yeah, I think that takes place on May 15, 2010. I may be wrong on the date. It should happen end of April, beginning of May.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6120 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1312 times:



Quoting Futuresdpdcop (Reply 15):


Quoting United Airline (Reply 13):
Heard that there will be a 8 days panama canal cruise for this. Repositioning maybe?

Yeah, I think that takes place on May 15, 2010. I may be wrong on the date. It should happen end of April, beginning of May.

15 day cruise, departing 30APR, with the cheapest cabin at $879 (which is a GREAT deal.)



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User currently offlineCruiseshipcrew From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

Besides Panama Canal repos I doubt you will see any Carnival Fantasy class doing longer then 7 day cruises.


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1293 times:



Quoting Cruiseshipcrew (Reply 17):
Besides Panama Canal repos I doubt you will see any Carnival Fantasy class doing longer then 7 day cruises.

Why?

They did longer cruises before right?

Will Carnival Paradise do the same thing?


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