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Joe Biden ..Golfing In Vegas .  
User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

You go Joe ,, !! The course would not set a tee time for him at first but then a staffer called and said " The VP really wants to play your course ... let me talk to the manager" He used his position to cut into line for tee times .... that's just cold blooded !  Wink

Is this part of ... " Its time to Do your part " " Its time to get some skin in the game " " Its patriotic to pay more taxes" .  blockhead 

Don't you tax payers feel good about flying this goof ball to Vegas for a golf outing .... I know I do ... I'm all red white and blue today baby!

http://www.lvrj.com/news/biden-finds...k-has-its-privileges-70353947.html


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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1742 times:

Shows where these guys have their mindset when it comes to political office...  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

An elitist is much like an addict. They just can't accept the word "no" When Clinton was in office a private club in eastern LI refused Clinton the same type of request. The club could care less who he was. They were low key and didn't believe in this crap. Too bad this club doesn't share the same mindset. Not to mention they probably had a few more democratic members.

User currently offlineMSNDC9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

Just to be clear.

These are the same clowns that shamed companies out of having annual conferences in Vegas right?

Probably would have publicly shamed the club into access had they said no. Probably did.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19708 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Oh yes, whenever a politician on the other side takes a vacation, it's a travesty.

1) The golf course could very well have chosen to decline him. However, a photo of the VP playing golf on your course makes very good PR.

2) The VP is required to take Government aircraft when he travels due to Secret Service rules.

So unless you would like to ban all elected officials from ever taking a vacation or having any R&R, come off it.

Or I can dig out a very long list of trips that Bush took, including spending a vast quantity of taxpayer money on an ultra-secret boondoggle to Iraq just so that he could make a PR stunt of a speech to troops there.


User currently offlineWCS From Canada, joined Apr 2007, 255 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

This is sooooo lame, yet so common. Human nature anyone?

Fantastic PR for the club at the end of the day ....

WCS



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User currently offlineCmhsrq From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 993 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1648 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
Oh yes, whenever a politician on the other side takes a vacation
, it's a travesty.

1) The golf course could very well have chosen to decline him. However, a photo of the VP playing golf on your course makes very good PR.

2) The VP is required to take Government aircraft when he travels due to Secret Service rules.

So unless you would like to ban all elected officials from ever taking a vacation
or having any R&R, come off it.

Or I can dig out a very long list of trips that Bush took, including spending a vast quantity of taxpayer money on an ultra-secret boondoggle to Iraq just so that he could make a PR stunt of a speech to troops there.

I think MSNDC9's point was don't be a hypocrite. The current administration and media has devastated the airline, corporate aviation, and travel industries in general by discouraging travel.Yet the VP doesn't have an issue going to Vegas to play a round of golf before a fundraiser.



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
Oh yes, whenever a politician on the other side takes a vacation, it's a travesty.

Just a shame when the shoe is on the other foot. You find out where all the pinch points are.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
Or I can dig out a very long list of trips that Bush took, including spending a vast quantity of taxpayer money on an ultra-secret boondoggle to Iraq just so that he could make a PR stunt of a speech to troops there.

As opposed to a not so secret PR trip to Copenhagen to get blown out trying to promote your home town to the Olympic committee at all the taxpayers expense?

The point is it happens on both sides of the aisle so you can drop the high and mighty act.

[Edited 2009-11-18 16:33:00]

User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19708 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1618 times:



Quoting Cmhsrq (Reply 6):

I think MSNDC9's point was don't be a hypocrite. The current administration and media has devastated the airline, corporate aviation, and travel industries in general by discouraging travel.Yet the VP doesn't have an issue going to Vegas to play a round of golf before a fundraiser.

So is your suggestion no travel for elected officials? And no time off or vacation?

Quoting DXing (Reply 7):

The point is it happens on both sides of the aisle so you can drop the high and mighty act.

I'm not the one with the high-and-mighty act.


User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1615 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
I'm not the one with the high-and-mighty act.

 rotfl  At least I can go to work with that chuckle on my mind.

When politicians think about doing this kind of thing there should be someone on their staff smart enough to say, "you know boss, this might not come across so well with those that can't even afford to play, let alone cut in a tee time, at their local course".


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11657 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

I suppose if Biden has closed-door meetings with oil execs to guide energy policy in the United States, that would calm the noise from the right?


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1584 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Don't you tax payers feel good about flying this goof ball to Vegas for a golf outing .... I know I do ... I'm all red white and blue today baby!

Did you have such outrage when Bush41 was golfing on the taxpayer dime? I didin't think so.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
An elitist is much like an addict.

NIK, you can't even tell us what the word "elitist" means in that context. You've simply heard it so often and so much from your right-wing talking heads that it's become automatic-kind of like blinking your eyes-you don't realize you're doing it, and you can't help yourself anyway.

An big story about nothing from the right, once more, who can't win on issues.


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1571 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
Did you have such outrage when Bush41 was golfing on the taxpayer dime? I didin't think so.

Nope , I said I don't mind Biden playing golf. Just thought it kinda funny after his socialist blithering about us sacrificing for America. Not to mention his bosses derogatory comments about Vegas...

Now the phone call to push into the tee time schedule ...as a golfer that's just wrong .... not to mention bad golf manners . But hey , he is the VP ....



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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

I have no problem with Biden golfing, but didn't Obama say back in around June at some point, "folks, don't waste money on that Las Vegas vacation..."  sigh 


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1558 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 12):
Nope , I said I don't mind Biden playing golf. Just thought it kinda funny after his socialist blithering about us sacrificing for America.

Gee, back in other wars, AGM100, sacrificing for the good of the country was considered PATRIOTIC, not socialist blithering. It helped us get through the Civil War, WW I, WW II.

But I guess those people were just socialist idiots, eh?

Actually, the problem is this: you don't know what socialism really is, and wouldn't know if it came up and smaked you in the face.

You've bought the idea from your political masters on the right. Socialism has never prospered in this nation, and never will. And, the sad part-for you, that is-is that most Americans thinks those like you who think this is some kind of Socialist experiment, are just right wing lunatics.

Now, if you want to talk real socialism, go ask Europe about that. They'll probably tell you that what we're seeing here is nowhere near Socialism.

I guess the only way it seems like it is if you're so far to the right that you can't tell the difference anyway.


User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8908 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Is anyone out there who remembers the King of golfing Presidents, President Eisenhower? How petty we have become.  Sad


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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1487 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 10):
I suppose if Biden has closed-door meetings with oil execs to guide energy policy in the United States, that would calm the noise from the right?

Of course Hillary's health care meetings were all out there in the open for everyone to see and hear right?


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1474 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 14):
Gee, back in other wars, AGM100, sacrificing for the good of the country was considered PATRIOTIC, not socialist

Ya but these wars are already lost .... and big mistakes ....eh Falcon ?? Your side cant have it both ways .. and too add his comments were about health-care and social entitlement spending.. not war-fighting . Nice try though.

I agree we are talking about a different initial brand of socialism Falcon ... but the same rules apply . Take from the classes that produce and earn ...send it to a ever larger state apparatus ...then dole it out at election time. Its backasswards .



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
NIK, you can't even tell us what the word "elitist" means in that context. You've simply heard it so often and so much from your right-wing talking heads that it's become automatic-kind of like blinking your eyes-you don't realize you're doing it, and you can't help yourself anyway

No, I know what the word means and have met many to know this concept all by myself so it's easy to spot one. Nice try though.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 13):
I have no problem with Biden golfing, but didn't Obama say back in around June at some point, "folks, don't waste money on that Las Vegas vacation..."

Remember the left wants you to do as they SAY, not as they do.

[Edited 2009-11-19 06:05:10]

User currently offlineSantosdumont From Brazil, joined Dec 2003, 1201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1464 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 18):
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
NIK, you can't even tell us what the word "elitist" means in that context. You've simply heard it so often and so much from your right-wing talking heads that it's become automatic-kind of like blinking your eyes-you don't realize you're doing it, and you can't help yourself anyway

No, I know what the word means and have met many to know this concept all by myself so it's easy to spot one. Nice try though.

Then surely a certain graduate of Phillips-Exeter Academy, Yale, and Harvard, not to mention a member of Skull and Bones, falls into that category -- his difficulties with the English language notwithstanding.



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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1437 times:



Quoting Cmhsrq (Reply 6):
The current administration and media has devastated the airline, corporate aviation, and travel industries in general by discouraging travel.

How did the current administration do that? The private jet flap happened at the end of the Bush Administration but it wasn't even them - there was outrage from both sides of the aisle in Congress. And when has the Obama administration ever discouraged travel, except when it frowned on bailed-out companies from using taxpayer money for corporate retreats? You can blame the media if you want, but public opinion was also negative towards using taxpayer money for junkets/trips/retreats for companies that received bailouts.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11657 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1434 times:



Quoting Santosdumont (Reply 19):
Then surely a certain graduate of Phillips-Exeter Academy, Yale, and Harvard, not to mention a member of Skull and Bones, falls into that category -- his difficulties with the English language notwithstanding.

Don't forget how much land he owns. Never mind the fact that there are too many Americans that don't even have a warm bed or anyting to eat.



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1422 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
Did you have such outrage when Bush41 was golfing on the taxpayer dime? I didin't think so.

Well he was a bomber pilot in WWII ...go play golf man , Biden avoided the draft on a deferment of having asthma ...even though he played football throughout high-school and college. So I personally give B41 a little latitude . Not to mention the dude has a aircraft carrier named after him ..i mean come on ! Big grin

But Hey , we want our VP too play golf and enjoy the capitalist life style. Just don't bite the hand that feeds you....



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8276 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1399 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
Biden avoided the draft on a deferment of having asthma ...even though he played football throughout high-school and college.

Might just be that he was able to control his asthma with medications while in school. That doesn't mean he is not 4F for military service. To be blunt, there is no way that the military (especially Army or Marines) would want to provide specialized medications to various members just to maintain normal duty levels. It is even a greater fantasy to assume the the military could keep an asthmatic medicated in the jungle or rice patties in Nam.

What should be important when looking at Biden's medical condition is that he was able to lead a pretty normal life with his condition. Good motivation to others who might tend to feel sorry for themselves.

As far as the golf game goes, I imagine that the Secret Service would prefer to keep it low key before the fact. Golf courses would be insanely difficult to protect a VIP at if there was sufficient notice to set something up.


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1388 times:



Quoting Ken777 (Reply 23):
It is even a greater fantasy to assume the the military could keep an asthmatic medicated in the jungle or rice patties in Nam.

Fair enough , I concede . Joe Biden is easily to be compared 41 .... and should be able to pull the VP card when ever he needs a Tee time.



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25 Slider : Precisely right. Biden could have said, hey, I love to golf, Vegas is great, come and spend your money here. Stimulate the economy, etc, etc. But ins
26 Falcon84 : I thought he flew fighters off-carrier, not bombers? Anyway, what the hell does that have to do with anything? HIm being in the war has nothing to do
27 Post contains links DXing : Wrong again. No surprise there eh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush Bush piloted one of four Grumman TBM Avenger aircraft from VT-51 th
28 Seb146 : When they use their family to get out of war combat, yes. There are many, many people who serve honorably in the NG for no other reason than to help
29 AGM100 : Obviously I don't mind appearing foolish Falcon I know who I am . Besides I respect Joe a bit ... he gave a great speech on the floor before voting w
30 Falcon84 : Drop your arrogance. I asked a simple question. I wasn't questioning AGM, I honestly thought he flew fighters. It didn't matter in any regard. You ju
31 DXing : Still a devotee of the Dan Rather school of journalism I see. Flying an F-102 (that's a fighter jet) is not something just anyone can do, family or n
32 Santosdumont : Who had "other priorities" rather than fighting in Vietnam.
33 Seb146 : How many times was Bush II deployed to Vietnam? How many missions did he fly over Vietnam? I am NOT talking about EVERY person enlisted in the NG. I
34 DXing : Your statement indicts one, and could be applied to indict them all. Don't like it, stop doing it. I noticed that your entire argument is that since
35 Seb146 : He had to think about it and use his own brain instead of running to daddy. He stood up for something he believed in, instead of just going along wit
36 DXing : So did Muhammad Ali and he went to jail. Since President Clinton had made friends in the right places he went to Oxford. Gee, that's fair don't you t
37 Aaron747 : LOL! Classic Definitely more than fair enough No such luck for Mr. Cheney - who probably would've had heart problems in 'Nam. Still waiting for a res
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