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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9191 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5622 times:

Which one is better? What are the cons and pros?

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User currently offlineQantasistheway From Australia, joined May 2008, 315 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5622 times:

iPhone is clearly better, but BlackBerry is better suited for emails and texting. I have a BlackBerry because of BlackBerry messenger as most of my friends have it and therefore I can message everyone for very very little money. So if all your friends have a BlackBerry then get one, if not then I think the iPhone is better.

User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8419 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5598 times:

Flip of the coin - depending on how you want to use it.

I'm not into texting - figured it's easier to simply call. The iPhone is fine for me.

Before deciding I would spend some time looking through the various apps that are available for the iPhone in the different area. You might be interested in FInance, Health, Games, Utilities, etc. Spend some time looking at the app descriptions, screen shots and user reviews. Check out both the free and paid apps.

With 100,000+ apps you could spend a month reviewing apps, but checking out the most popular free and paid in each category might be all you need to do to make a decision.

Also check out the information on the iPhone at apple.com for a good description of the iPhone itself.

Good luck on making a choice!


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5596 times:

Neither. Get the Droid.



http://phones.verizonwireless.com/motorola/droid/


User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3056 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5597 times:
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"Better"? well that depends...

iPhone is more an end user device

Pros: there probably an app for that   touch screen (if that's a pro), large screen. Many limitations of the older models now fixed with V3.0 code. Can switch SIMs on the go (no power off needed). Fully OTA access to YouTube, other streaming media sites. Lots (thousands...) of apps (games, media, social networking, pictures, web... basically anything).

Cons: Typing is annoying, bug fixes are frequent and jailbreaking the device to allow non-approved apps to be loaded can cause the bug fixes to brick the device. Camera isn't great (no flash and slow CCDs). no SD card port. Email setup can be tedious with some email accounts. No UMA support. Battery "not replaceable". Eats data like crazy (aka $$$ on some carriers or while roaming). Device is fairly large.


BlackBerry is more an email device

also, which BlackBerry model? there are several.

the common pros: Easy setup for email, most models full QWERTY keyboard for typing, newest models feature good camera with flash on some models. Very stable OS, there is now an app store (BlackBerry App World) for BlackBerry devices. All current models have MicroSD card support (8, 16, 32gb max depending on model). Newest devices feature nice easy to use trackpad, older models feature trackball. UMA support on some carriers and devices (not all models have wi-fi, not all carrier have UMA service enabled), Battery is accessible. Data use is much better than other devices due to compression technology (down to 1/10th the data use of an MS Exchange Active Sync device to send same email), all email and pin messages are ciphered (won't say encrypted... email probably is, pin probably isnt).

Pros specific to 9700: same screen res as iPhone (though smaller dimensions), 4-5 day battery life even on wifi (but not bluetooth).

cons: Only Storm/Storm 2 feature full screen (and it's no touch but "click" screen, you have to press the screen to get it to do something), not intended for media watching, oldermodel trackball devices have frequent failure of the trackball (gunk gets in, gums it all up, newest models do not have this problem).

The "there is no real difference" list:

Phone quality is about the same on both
Battery life varies greatly depending what you have turned on
Bluetooth compatibility is about the same for both... no more to say.
GPS same (some BB do not have, though most do, and iPhone also has CPS allowing faster area lock, but fine lock and nav speed is the same)


My personal recommendations:

If you want it for email/text: BlackBerry 9700 Bold or 85xx Curve (newest ones)
If you want it to watch video, play games: iPhone 3GS
3rd option, look into Android phones, new Motorola Droid is a very nice device and IMHO better than iPhone, Android is gaining market share very fast.


Do NOT get:

Blackberry 8100/8200 series (Pearl), Windows Mobile devices, 1st Gen iPhone (non-3G, they are all out of warranty almost)


Oh yes, BTW, i support BlackBerry and iPhone...  Wink

[Edited 2009-11-22 14:08:15]


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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5573 times:

For me, it's (unfortunately) a no-brainer. Given the atrocious lack of reliability and small 3G coverage area of AT&T, I have no choice but to go with the BlackBerry on the Verizon network. I have a Storm and it's served me well.

The iPhone 3Gs is the better phone as far as non-phone features go. I've had lousy luck with Motorola in the past, so even though Droid looks interesting, it's not the phone for me at the moment. Plus it just seems a little "juvenile" in comparison.

There are some neat apps for the iPhone that you can get for the iPod Touch as well, so if you want the nifty features, that's another route to consider.



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User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4880 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5570 times:

iPhone 3G is what I've got. I use it heavily for email and text messages.

I'd recommend a 3GS, but I'm happy with my old 3G - it does the job well enough - poor battery life excepted (though I use it heavily with email/internet/WIFI).


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5549 times:



Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 3):
Neither. Get the Droid.

 checkmark   checkmark   checkmark  My cousin just got one and I used (ok, took it over) for about two hours last night and it is AMAZING. The touchscreen keyboard is great, much better than the iphone, and the regular qwerty keyboard is a great plus. Video quality was great and the feel of the device was great. I want one so bad.

Quoting Qantasistheway (Reply 1):
iPhone is clearly better,

Your opinion.



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User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3085 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5530 times:

I have both....Love the tactile keyboard on blackberry .... and great battery life...

Love Iphone for when stuck on crime scene and can watch videos on it(yes I know itunes but I use it and love it)....

Plus better Browser

If I could only have one I would chose the Iphone

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26013 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

How about the new Palm Pre instead.
The Pre marries the best of Blackberry with its work productivity features, and also many iPhone like features including good Internet. And unlike the iPhone you can multiple apps running at the same time.



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User currently offlineA1ring23 From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5515 times:

Definitely recommend an iPhone, although I don't and never have used a Blackberry.

Pros:
- Touch screen, very response
- Feels very tactile, and nice in your hands
- LOTS of really good apps.
- Video/iPod all in one.
- There are heaps more...just can't think of any atm.

Cons:
- Can feel very delicate, and expensive to fix if something goes wrong.
- Typing can be a hassle if you're into writing long emails all the time (although landscape keyboard has fixed that slightly)
- Call quality/coverage can be quite mediocre at times (depending on what network you're on).
- Battery life can be average as well (ONLY because users tend to use iPhone more for more extensive activities such as video viewing and 3D gaming - the apps tend to chew up alot of battery).
- Need to jailbreak to get custom software and features - can be a hassle.

Overall I'd say it depends if you're more of a business user or everyday consumer. Although saying that more business users are turning to iPhone for the Business Apps...

If you need some more help as to some pros and cons on the iPhone, check out this thread:
The Official IPhone Thread (by A1ring23 Oct 25 2009 in Non Aviation)

Hope you make a good decision  Smile



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User currently offlineMNeo From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2004, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 days ago) and read 5460 times:

It really depends on what you wanna use your phone for. I have a curve and the BB is amazing for "phone" usage. If you need a phone that is very reliable and very productive get the BB. But if you mostly wanna phone that u can browse the full web and use random apps get an Iphone.


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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3148 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 days ago) and read 5451 times:



Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 10):
- Battery life can be average as well (ONLY because users tend to use iPhone more for more extensive activities such as video viewing and 3D gaming - the apps tend to chew up alot of battery).

I'm sorry, 3G navigation EATS up the battery life in an iPhone 3G.

Fully (recently) charged iPhone, with no phone calls made or texting, just having it on - on a road trip, used it for about 1h 30mins, had only 20% of battery left. If you want music on, while you are browsing, that'll cost you 25-30 mins worth of battery life for the same activity.

I don't know if this is the way it's supposed to be - but it's been this way since day 1.

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26704 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5447 times:

Honestly, it really depends on what you are using the phone for. If you send and receive a ton of e-mails a day, nothing is better than a Blackberry. If you care more about the internet, apps and the like, you are much better off with an iPhone or Android device. I switched from a Blackberry to a Motorola Cliq (called Dext in the rest of the world) which is the sister device to the Droid and the pros and cons are apparent. One of the big things that kept me off the iPhone (and the myTouch/HTC Magic) is the touch screen only keyboard, whereas my phone has a real, slide out keyboard to go along with an excellent touch screen one.


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User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5422 times:

I agree with most when they say it depends on Your needs. I have been on the Blackberry for 5 years recently and it was a flawless device for emails and texting and keeping in touch with my needs. I was not necessarily into the games, but I wanted a device to keep me connected with multiple email, phone, calendar and reminders. All those BB performed great.

My contract with TMO was up and I was looking for something new and fun as thatis what I wanted at this point in my life. I really never had an interest in the iphone to be honest and when the Android phones were coming into play, I researched and researched and really liked what they offered and what they Could offer.

I just switched 1.5 weeks ago over to Verizon and the Motorola Droid and could not be happier. This device is amazing and suits my needs. I will always be a BlackBerry fan (and was seriously considering the new Tmo BB Bold 9700 but again, wanted something fun and with a larger screen as I'm not a huge phone user and texter to be honest, but since I was paying for data, wy not get a better device with a larger real estate as well.

But research your needs. many sites to help out like crackberry and pinstack.


User currently offlineThebatman From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 849 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5421 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 9):
How about the new Palm Pre instead.

I have one, and it is FANTASTIC. Email, texting, internet (fabulous browser), lots of apps (more each day), full keyboard, and you can run up to 12 applications simultaneously. Whatever you want to do, it can do it.




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User currently offlineMSNDC9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5413 times:



Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Which one is better? What are the cons and pros?

I look at these two devices the same way I look at Macs and PCs. If you have to do work, you want the Crackberry.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21495 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5390 times:



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 16):
I look at these two devices the same way I look at Macs and PCs. If you have to do work, you want the Crackberry.

I – like a growing number of people – work exclusively on Macs and I use an iPhone for work as well.

The thing is that the Blackberry is an email machine which is hardwired to RIM's routing servers. And that's it, basically, and even there it has its flaws.

The iPhone (like some of the other phones) is much more of an actual computer, with full internet access and a large number of much more complex applications than the Blackberry could ever accomodate due to its very limited system design.

The Blackberry comes from an era when data was outrageously expensive and complex operating systems couldn't ever be accomodated on a handheld device. But that era is pretty much a thing of the past.

As a consequence the Blackberry is basically just a terminal to RIM's servers, itself running a relatively weak operating system while the iPhone runs a much more complete Unix operating system with many desktop- or even server-class frameworks on board (it is a sibling of Mac OS X).

It makes quite a difference in what can be done on the machine, even when it's away from network access.

So if you don't have many needs beyond just mail, the Blackberry may be an option, but otherwise you'd be limiting yourself quite severely.

The onscreen keyboard on the iPhone is often cited as a deficiency, but in my practical experience it is simply a matter of getting used to – after a learning phase it doesn't put the iPhone at a real disadvantage even if it may look that way at first glance.

In the end it all depends on your needs and circumstances, but in the majority of the cases the iPhone will be the better choice.


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5358 times:



Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 3):
Neither. Get the Droid.

I have an iPhone, a Droid, and a BlackBerry Storm (the first is my own -- the second and third are because I vet them for security in a workplace environment.)

What I tell people, when I'm pressed for time, is that the Droid is the phone I would want if the iPhone did not exist, though the Droid (and Android) is clearly heavily influenced by the iPhone.

For security: BlackBerry > iPhone > Droid
For usability: iPhone > Droid > BlackBerry
For fun: iPhone > Droid > BlackBerry



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User currently offlineCzbbflier From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 980 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5333 times:

I've often thought about this myself and almost bought an iPhone.

I am the proud owner of the newest BlackBerry- the Tour 9630 and my frustrations with the Storm simply melted away.

I would seriously advise you to avoid the Storm. The keyboard, 'clicky' as it may be, is virtually impossible to use- instead of shooting out a balloon showing you the letter you're touching, it makes the letter glow. That's a problem when your fat thumbs and fingers cover over the glow. Plus it's S_____L______O______W.

I love the tactile keyboard and am impressed with the now rapidly growing assortment of applications.

As a Mac user, I was fed up with the lack of computability between my desk-top on OS X and my BB but RIM finally came out with a new desktop manager which seems to actually work.

I must say too that BlackBerry has been utterly amazing in its support- I have had a senior analyst on speed-dial and he has spent HOURS and HOURS on the phone with me working out solutions and the like.

However, I am still seriously considering an iPod Touch for all the cool apps and would intend to use it where there is WiFi access. These days, who needs an actual data account when all these WiFi services are around?


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5291 times:



Quoting Czbbflier (Reply 19):
I would seriously advise you to avoid the Storm.

I've heard the Storm 2 is supposed to be WAY better than the 1st gen Storm.



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User currently offlineMSNDC9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5255 times:



Quoting Klaus (Reply 17):
I – like a growing number of people – work exclusively on Macs and I use an iPhone for work as well.

Very few people on this planet actually do or ever will do the majority of their work on a Mac. I know, you love Macs. Yes, they're fun and functional to a point. That said, the vast majority global workforce could not function on a Mac. Its is what it is.


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5246 times:



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 21):
Very few people on this planet actually do or ever will do the majority of their work on a Mac. I know, you love Macs. Yes, they're fun and functional to a point. That said, the vast majority global workforce could not function on a Mac. Its is what it is.

They couldn't...browse the web and run an office productivity application? That's most of what people do with their computers, even in enterprise environments. For most people, Mac OS X, Windows, Ubuntu, etc. are fully capable of performing the tasks those people actually need done. Now, performing those tasks easily and with minimal frustration is another matter entirely.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9191 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5240 times:

Blackberry is made in Canada right?

What about I phone?


User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3056 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5232 times:
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Quoting United Airline (Reply 23):
Blackberry is made in Canada right?

What about I phone?

RIM is based in Canada, devices are made/have been made in Canada, Hungary, Mexico and Germany

iPhone is made in China



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25 Swissy : That depends on what you are looking for .... for me it is the BB Bold... had a pearl for over a year and never had any issues with the trackball....
26 Klaus : We could debate the numbers (which are changing quite substantially as we speak) – but not just my experience is that you can do everything on a Ma
27 Cpd : We do. And they coexist very easily with the rest of the PC using people. I use both. But I prefer the Macbook Pro for productivity. It is something
28 EA CO AS : I've used the Palm Pre, the iPhone and the Blackberry Storm, and for a good business/personal mix, I think the Blackberry Storm is an excellent device
29 Czbbflier : lol- perhaps so but you have to realize that "WAY better" than being an "absolutely, irredeemably, a piece of crap" is merely "relatively crappy". ha
30 JCS17 : I'd like an iPhone, but all my friends who have it here in the States bitch constantly about AT&T Wireless' horrific 3G network. One of my friends who
31 2H4 : It's all true. Every last bit. And it's not just the 3G network that is miserable...it's the network in its entirety. I've had "No Service" on Standf
32 Post contains links Nighthawk : Tesco are now going to start selling the iPhone in the UK now! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8378267.stm At what point does the iphone cease t
33 United Airline : What about Blackberry?
34 Captaink : I have one as well. What a wonderful piece. You should give your gmail address, my gtalk has few people as Mexicans just love mSN.. Sucks :S 1. the s
35 United Airline : So which one has more users? Blackberry or Iphone? Which is the latest Blackberry model?
36 N328KF : RIM sold 50 million BlackBerrys by February of this year. I think around 40 million iPhones have been sold, but by some measures, you should count iPo
37 NorthStarDC4M : the latest models are the: BlackBerry 9700 Bold BlackBerry 8520/8530 Curve BlackBerry 9520/9550 Storm2 Slightly older: BlackBerry 9630 Tour iPhone se
38 Klaus : Actually, Apple doesn't get any recurring income from the iPhone any more. (The initial deals with the providers have ended after only one year. The
39 N328KF : They may have received the cash, but they're not allowed to report it as income until the contracts are completed. Note that this rule is probably ch
40 United Airline : Which is the latest touch screen model of Blackberry? Does it include a keyboard? What's the difference between the keyboard and the touch screen one?
41 Flanker : I cant stand blackberry keys. That alone puts me off from ever having one.
42 United Airline : Which one? The touch screen one or the keyboard one? Why?
43 NorthStarDC4M : Storm2 (9520/9550), no keyboard, and its not a touch screen, its a click screen (you have to press the screen to commit an action, not just touch it)
44 Corinthians : I'm a smart phone junkie and I can't believe I missed this thread! First off, I don't own either device, but I've played around with most of the Black
45 2H4 : While physical QWERTYs are indisputably more tactile, many people (myself included) find typing to be quicker and easier on a good (read: iPhone) vir
46 Post contains links Corinthians : It's a matter of preference. I actually prefer a virtual keyboard and am pretty good at typing on it, but there are many who like the physical one. A
47 2H4 : Thanks for the info. Lots of food for thought... 2H4
48 LTU932 : There is IMO a disadvantage for both: The CrackBerry and the iPhone are pretty damn expensive. In Germany, you can only get them cheap if you sign up
49 Aeri28 : Everything is a matter of personal preference. I love love love my Droid and after four weeks of owning it I still find new and exciting things to do
50 Corinthians : Exactly...matter of preference. Some people absolutely love the Droid. Boy Genius Report says it's the best thing since sliced bread. Phone Arena sai
51 Corinthians : That's how it is here too. In order to get a phone at a discounted price, you have to sign up for a contract (usually two years). For instance, the i
52 EA CO AS : As you said, it's all about preference - and I LOVE my Storm!
53 Klaus : I don't see it being worse than other phones – people just use the iPhone much more intensely, so the screen and the CPU will drain the battery fas
54 Corinthians : Well, Blackberry is a smart phone as well and most models - aside from the Storm - last about three days. RIM really set the standard for smart phone
55 Post contains images Klaus : Well, having a tiny screen, a web browser that's more a chore than a joy to use and relatively little third-party software support certainly helps th
56 Corinthians : Excellent point. Unless you have the Storm. lol I think it is branding out of control. For our marker, cell phone manufacturers specify their models
57 Klaus : Different EU member countries at this point still have different rules for the market, which for instance ban carrier locks in some countries such as
58 Czbbflier : For now you do..... I had mine for about a year. I loved it at the start but 6 months in, it was a different story.
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