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Balkans Meet 10/10/10  
User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 6
Posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

http://i45.tinypic.com/244d5r5.jpg

Where?
in the Balkans
PRN, TIA, BEG, SKP, TGD, TIV, ZAG, LJU, ATH, SJJ...*

When?
in 2010**

Wanna be part of it?
THE BALKANS MEET 2010

* share your ideas to determine the location...
** ...and the date!


DO FLIGHTS. NOT FIGHTS.
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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2972 times:

I love the graphic - that's cool! Big grin

I'll do my best to make this one, I'm open to suggestions for dates, but it will have to fit in around my University work. Maybe avoid the high summer as flights get a bit expensive with all the tourists heading to the beaches.

It's about time there was a meet in this region  thumbsup 


Dan  Smile



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2965 times:

Hi Fatmir,

excellent idea. As a Balkan a.nutter however, I have to say that I am not in the Balkans and won´t be there anytime soon...Anyway, I hope that your idea works!
Btw, I like the graphics.

Alex


User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2963 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):
I love the graphic - that's cool! 

Thanks, Dan.  Smile

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):
Maybe avoid the high summer

That's for sure. The meeting maybe will be held during the winter (in the beginning months of 2010, end of January, February or March sounds great  Smile) or in the spring. This is only my personal opinion.
In the summertime we have 'Football Party' Big grin

Fatmir



DO FLIGHTS. NOT FIGHTS.
User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4695 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

Would be nice to do a meet here (looking for something to replace the Ukraine), but my schedule for 2010 is one big blank with several options, so I can't help out in suggesting dates etc.


For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and ther
User currently offlineKiqaboy From Sweden, joined Feb 2006, 171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

Dammm Fatmir you should start doing designs for big companies, BTW back to the topic
Well this i a great idea i think but first we have to set up a location and the date so can we make a kind of voting here if possible, any one can propose 3 cites the one that gets most votes will be the meeting place?

PRN
TIA
BEG

and the date should be around February
we will need visa to enter countries in EU so it might be problem for us.

Kiqa



once upone time
User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2937 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 2):
Btw, I like the graphics.

Thanks, Alex.  thumbsup 

Quoting Kiqaboy (Reply 5):
Dammm Fatmir you should start doing designs for big companies

@Kiqaboy Whoa, thanks for your kind words but I'm still in my beginnings!

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 2):
and won´t be there anytime soon

End of January - mid of February?

Quoting Kiqaboy (Reply 5):
any one can propose 3 cites the one that gets most votes will be the meeting place?

Hmmm, sounds great! Bloody visas. Still we need 'em entering in EU countries. What a mess!!!

Mine:
PRN
SKP
TIA
... also TIV sounds cool.  Smile

Fatmir



DO FLIGHTS. NOT FIGHTS.
User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4695 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2923 times:



Quoting Kiqaboy (Reply 5):
any one can propose 3 cites the one that gets most votes will be the meeting place?

Not knowing much about the Balkan (I know, a good time to change that  Wink) how are these cities connected airline-wise and how interesting are they? Especially a city with low-cost service might have an advantage as it is easier to attract more people.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

I think for most people this kind of timeline will be too soon - it's only a couple of months away. Those travelling non-rev will have no problem though.


Dan  Smile



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2890 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Due to the persistent work of some members of the Croatian aviation community, we're well on the way of opening up at least some major airports in Croatia to spotters - meaning we wouldn't be chased away from the fence by the police . ZAG is first on the list, while it may also spread to SPU and DBV (the question is when), so if it all works we can combine pleasure with pleasure here in Cro  .

So, for my 3 cities I'd say:

ZAG
SPU (a spotter-friendly airport, wow)
BEG

in no particular order  .

[Edited 2009-12-08 00:42:54]


No plane, no gain.
User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2885 times:



Quoting JRadier (Reply 7):
how are these cities connected airline-wise

The list of airlines which operates at PRN (alphabetical order)
Adria Airways
Air Berlin
Austrian Airlines
Belle Air
British Airways
Croatia Airlines
Edelweiss Air
Germania
Germanwings
Hamburg International
Malév Hungarian Airlines
Meridiana
Montenegro Airlines
Scandinavian Airlines System
Swiss International Air Lines
Tafa Air
Turkish Airlines
Turkish Airlines Cargo

Quoting JRadier (Reply 7):
how interesting are they?

Take a look at this video that I've made in 2008.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EaPLJ-5OqE

Quoting JRadier (Reply 7):
a city with low-cost service might have an advantage as it is easier to attract more people.

Actually there are operating two low cost airlines, if we may consider Air Berlin as a LCC!
Air Berlin
Düsseldorf, Frankfurt, Geneva, Hanover, Munich, Zürich

Belle Air
Liège, Rome-Fiumicino, Stuttgart, Tirana

and Tafa Air, which I don't if they've started or not!
Dortmund, Friedrichshafen

In June, U2 possibly it's going to operate GVA - PRN route.


Fatmir



DO FLIGHTS. NOT FIGHTS.
User currently offlineDba4U From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 665 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

Well, concerning the date I'm with Dan, as the balkans are not particulary known for overly strong LCC presence or cheap fares in general, and springtime is already pretty packed (KEF, PRG meets).
I'd suggest late september to mid-october or something like that.

Then, next question: What do we want to do? Is this supposed to be a beer or an aviation meet? If we are going to do an aviation meet we shall ensure that the cities airport 's got at least some traffic! If we're going to do a beer meet, well, the "infrastructure" 's got to be given as well. As I think it'll be a bit of both (like ukraine) we should take care of that.


TGD: Nice landscape around, but... i think that neither the airport nor the city itself can offer what we are searching for. It was the only city where after a single hour of sightseeing I sat down in a bar and had the feeling that I've seen it all.

SJJ: Well, I kinda fell in love with that place, so I might be a bit biased  Wink The city is a beauty, the surroundings breathtaking and there's quiet a bit to explore for the beerboys as well. However, looking at the airports shedule reveals little of mor interest then what can be found at TGD, just that "Montenegro Airlines" has been replaced by "BH Air"...

BEG: Propably spotting wise the best bet (together with ZAG), the city itself is big enough to find a way to spend the evenings (enjoying the sunset from Kalemegdan, then into town, beer)... Ah, and they got an aviation museum, which is in quiet a sorry state, but if you've got to spend an hour or two in between flights...

I can't say anything about the other cities, as I've never been there.
No vote from my side yet, show me what your cities got on offer first :P


User currently offlineIliriBDL From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2870 times:

How about ATH? (saying because I can fly there for for less than $100)


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User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

Ok, let me add myself to the vote, even though I wont be there...

BEG
ZAG
TSR

I would love to go visit TIA, although the flights between BEG and TIA are expensive, and there wont be direct flights in winter...

Quoting Dba4U (Reply 11):
BEG: Propably spotting wise the best bet (together with ZAG), the city itself is big enough to find a way to spend the evenings (enjoying the sunset from Kalemegdan, then into town, beer)... Ah, and they got an aviation museum, which is in quiet a sorry state, but if you've got to spend an hour or two in between flights...

 bigthumbsup 


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2862 times:



Quoting Dba4U (Reply 11):
Well, concerning the date I'm with Dan, as the balkans are not particulary known for overly strong LCC presence or cheap fares in general, and springtime is already pretty packed (KEF, PRG meets).
I'd suggest late september to mid-october or something like that.

This is what I was thinking too. Regarding airlines I'm not too bothered about direct flights - so long as I can get to within a couple of hundred miles of where we're meeting I'm sure I can get a bus/train or something to the destination. I will probably take the opportunity to visit Bulgaria at the same time, as I've wanted to for a while now, and I may just end up in Greece, Turkey or god knows where!


Dan  Smile



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineTowerEye From Serbia, joined Jun 2005, 64 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

Nice graphic, but the lack of cyrillic text is so obvious that it is offending.


Comply or die!
User currently offlineKiqaboy From Sweden, joined Feb 2006, 171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

If PRN comes in to count i can make possible to have a spotting position inside the airport and i mean with this from this position here

usually Saturdays are quite busy with up to 40 flight a day and 4-6 military a a day.

and if there are beer people around than there are a lot of bars in Prishtina town.

Kiqa



once upone time
User currently offlineIliriBDL From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2819 times:



Quoting TowerEye (Reply 15):
Nice graphic, but the lack of cyrillic text is so obvious that it is offending.

Well to include Bosnians and Croatians it had to be written that way. Don't take any offense. (plus majority of people here wouldn't be able to read it)



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User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2802 times:

Quoting TowerEye (Reply 15):
the lack of cyrillic text is so obvious that it is offending.

Oh, come on! So, then Blic if 'betraying' you as well!
http://www.blic.rs/

The poster appears to be ripped off (or it's just me)! Surprisingly, there is not edit button in my post! It's weird but I'm to sort this out as soon as possible.


Let's get back to the topic.
After there are too many thoughts about location of the meeting, I'd suggest first to determine the date. What are your preferences?

- Mid of February
- March
- September

Express your thoughts about these three dates. What are the (dis)advantages?

February - Low traffic, Cold weather, Cheap tickets
March - Optimum traffic, Optimum weather, Optimum tickets
September - High Traffic, Hot weather, Expensive tickets

That's is just my point of view in this short brief.

P.S. Btw, why I could edit this?! Is there any deadline when you can edit your own post?!

Fatmir

[Edited 2009-12-08 10:41:16]

[Edited 2009-12-08 10:42:19]


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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5157 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2792 times:



Quoting JRadier (Reply 4):
(looking for something to replace the Ukraine)

Likewise  Silly

Sounds like a good idea, its a part of the world I definately want to visit, but 2010 is looking pretty busy already, the following are all on the cards for next year!

Prague,
Iceland,
india
Las Vegas
Baltics

I might be struggling for leave  Silly



That'll teach you
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2787 times:



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 18):
P.S. Btw, why I could edit this?! Is there any deadline when you can edit your own post?!

Recently extended to 60 minutes, IIRC.

February 2010 might be a bit too tight fro planning, as expressed by others earlier. Also the weather could be negative.

Personally I'd perfer September or even October.

Location-wise I am not too picky as long as I fly there within one day w/o having to fly out before 0800h.
Might even consider to combine the location with a trip to one (or more) of the Greek islands.
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4695 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2784 times:



Quoting Dba4U (Reply 11):
As I think it'll be a bit of both (like ukraine) we should take care of that.

Works for me. I'd even be up for a road-trip through the Balkans before/afterwards, was a blast in the Ukraine.



For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and ther
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

DBV has a very nice city to visit, but also attracts quite a number of tourists in high season. But in off-season, hotel rates should be okay.
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineKiqaboy From Sweden, joined Feb 2006, 171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

I think DBV is a great option but i do not know about the off season prices maybe someone from Croatia could provide us with this info.

Kiqa



once upone time
User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 31
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Hmm, as for the place, my choice is naturally Belgrade although Croatian airports like SPU and DBV look very nice and interesting


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25 FatmirJusufi : How we are supposed to enter with our passports, or maybe case will be solved until then!
26 Kiqaboy : Fatmir do not worry about that part, if Croatia comes to consideration than we can have the visa, we can apply for visa as TV crew, and if it comes to
27 IliriBDL : I'll probably be in PRN in July (when in July not sure yet) for about 2 maybe 3 weeks next summer. (got a wedding to attend lol)
28 FatmirJusufi : I didn't know that. Cool! ------------------------------ After most of a.netters aren't available to join this event during the late winter or the sp
29 FatmirJusufi : We'll have a 'mini-meeting' as we always do at PRN. July and August - months of weddings!
30 AlexEU : Well, I don´t know on which continent will I be in a year!! But, good idea. Just wondering, are you planing to fly Croatia´s Dash 8 directly to ZAG
31 IliriBDL : Not bad date, I would try an get in somehow for a day only. Great, we'll have to do it then. lol I've missed so many though so this time I have to be
32 Kiqaboy : Sure we have to do a mini-meeting during that time I will try to arrange a to go it to PRN so that we can make a photo shoot during peek time. Wedding
33 FatmirJusufi : ZAG is still disputable but we should keep that date. DATE IS RESERVED. Fatmir
34 SAAB900 : ZAG 10/10/10 is sounding tempting! It's a place on my "to do" list in the next 12-24 months,as is Belgrade & what looks like an amazing museum there!
35 Dba4U : Date is suiting me just fine, and with ZAG beeing a place I've never been before... I'm game. What's nice about ZAG is that Croatia Airlines is offeri
36 Airtrainer : Sounds great to me ! I can't think of any location as I've never been to any airport/city mentioned above but I vote for the airport with the most tr
37 Kiqaboy : Croatian A.net guy's/ladies what do you think over there are there any chances to prepare something from your side for the 10 10 10 meeting. BTW can s
38 Post contains links FatmirJusufi : Great idea! OU have announced ZAG - BEG route by next May, 2010. http://bit.ly/2rxJWD Nostalgia, huh? ------------------- What do you think if meetin
39 N1120A : There is the one to take off the list.
40 HT : 10-10-10 I am reserving the date, but will remain a "Maybe" for quite some time. Difficult for me to plann that far ahead; too many potentials changes
41 TripleDelta : It's looking very, very good so far. Our Croatian Aviation Forum organization - pretty much the first time spotters and fans of aviation have gathere
42 Post contains images FatmirJusufi : That's amazing.   If ZAG has been selected for Triple Ten Meeting, let me know to change this topic subject and to announce it officially. We're not
43 TripleDelta : What was your original plan/idea for the event? (just to have a clear idea) Given the time frame, we have a lot of time to set everything up to the l
44 FatmirJusufi : Nothing 'spectacular' if I may call on this way. During this event I must pay attention to Zagreb city itself. I thought to spend two or three days i
45 IliriBDL : I want to visit Pula, where my dad went to army in the 70s. lol I'll definitely plan to attend the ZAG meeting, hopefully I can stay for two days.
46 PlymSpotter : OK this sounds perfect for me. It's far enough in advance that I can get cheap flights, and it's an interesting region which I've wanted to see for a
47 FatmirJusufi : Cool. I do not know about Bosnia, as never been there but Kosovo is more than safe. It is true that people are still afraid to visit this region! The
48 Dba4U : I just realized that I'd be able to hop on the Germanwings nonstop for 40EUR return from SXF. However, that's just about as boring as it can get. Thin
49 FatmirJusufi : Well, ZAG was as a proposal from myself and it seems "all" of participants have agreed! Actually, it was the best choice among the others. Why have y
50 Dba4U : Forum/Chat etiquette, if you're going to underline a point, put weight on a word, this (or putting some dashes like _these_) is the way to go, I coul
51 FatmirJusufi : No, no I've just asked and didn't get as offensive. Of course they do! Yeah, it is. It's very cheap though. 10 Euros one way ticket, if I'm not mista
52 SAAB900 : TripleDelta, All that sounds amazing! I really want to go now! Any idea's on what could be used for the panoramic flight's, An2? Why can't more airpo
53 PlymSpotter : Excellent, I thought as much but it's nice to check with someone who has a more local perspective on goings on. Thank you! Boring, but that's cheap!
54 TripleDelta : I suppose an An-2 could be considered, but that depends on whether anyone would be willing to lend us one . I was - for a start - thinking more along
55 SAAB900 : Either of these two would be a first flight for me! Prob the An2 would be the more memorable & more rare to fly in than the LET! MIG's on a stick wou
56 AlexEU : I find it interesting that nationalities of all countries can visit Kosovo without any visa. The border doesn´t exist according to 129 countries tho
57 FatmirJusufi : Yeah, we shouldn't get into politics but the border exists from the both sides! Do you want me to prove it? Only the northern part! Huh?! I didn't kn
58 TripleDelta : I'll see what could be arranged, but since the time frame is very generous, it bodes well for the An-2! Depending on how many will turn up for the me
59 FatmirJusufi : Boran, what's the distance between ZAG and the city?
60 TripleDelta : From the airport terminal to the main rail station - where the airport shuttle stops - it's about 14 km by road. To the very center of town it's 17 k
61 N1120A : I vote for Kosovo, because it seems the most interesting.
62 FatmirJusufi : I'd love love to but most of the members voted for ZAG or even BEG! Everyone is welcomed to visit Kosovo after ZAG meet (or before it). Since now, in
63 AlexEU : Then 21/12/12 should be in BEG. Perhaps the last ever a.net meeting
64 Kiqaboy : AlexEU can you arrange the BEG meeting 2 days earlier so that we can enjoy the last day at home. BTW the meet is really getting its shape i think, the
65 IliriBDL : lol exactly we should do a Balkan meet every year.
66 FatmirJusufi : That'd be fun. Different countries every year.
67 JU068 : I think ZAG should be the best as they have the coolest terminal! Plus we would have a direct flight then! As far as Kosovo goes, who would want to go
68 Kiqaboy : JU068 what makes you think that you or someone else lives might be in Dangerous wile you would stay here, come on man stop this kind of propaganda if
69 PlymSpotter : That is good, in Moldova it was €20
70 FatmirJusufi : JU068, please stop your nationalism euphoria! These kind of speeches have passed away (at least who is living in the 21st century). Regards,
71 IliriBDL : It would be great if some media came, newspapers etc, the place where we come out with an agreement to never fight each other again for the next 10,0
72 JRadier : $20 actually, and it could have been done for $10... if it wasn't for Sören
73 TripleDelta : Hmm... We're educated, intelligent people with a passion for aviation. We're not famous nor pretend to be. Half of us probably couldn't even sing two
74 AlexEU : I was thinking about visiting Moldova and Pridnestrovie I still haven´t planned out whether to take a bus or Carpatair flight from Timisoara...Is is
75 Airtrainer : Then we should organize peaceful A.net meets to a lot of places
76 FatmirJusufi : Alex, more than 10 yrs have passed since 1999 but as I sad before, let's put politics away! Boran, have you contacted with your buddy enthusiasts? Wh
77 Tk747 : Had the same situation happen to me. I would also like to attend but wouldn't feel that comfortable going to PRN. I was in Macedonia visiting family
78 TripleDelta : I've spoken with them and all appear for the idea, though given the time frame - 10+ months - it's still a bit too early to get a definite answer, ma
79 PlymSpotter : Ahh I thought it was Euros. An expensive left turn regardless Very safe. I have been around the built up suburbs filled with tower blocks, late at ni
80 HT : Dan, this really sounds like an intensive trip to perform within 3 weeks ! Enjoy the planning and the travel. Merry Christmas ! Holger
81 AlexEU : Are you referring to Chisinau or Tiraspol? Btw, traveling to Moldova is relativly expensive. Timisoara-Chisinau flight is about 160EUR return. I am n
82 PlymSpotter : Chisinau, I've thought about going to Tiraspol twice when I was there, but both times it may have caused problems so I didn't. One cheaper way to get
83 HT : It looks like the date of this meeting will conflict with another trip I am planning. CAF Airsho at MAF is being held at the same weekend ... -HT
84 HT : That travel plan has become an uncertainty meanwhile, as family is planning to head to Turkey in mid to late October. Will have to see ... -HT
85 HT : Any new takers ? Or shall we let this thread just get archived after 15 days with no replies ? -HT
86 Post contains images FatmirJusufi : Yeah, you're right!   Croatians where are you? Or we're going to organize this event...  Fatmir
87 TripleDelta : The planned date is still too far ahead to do any detailed planning. We still don't even know the outcome of the ZAG spotting agreement - which is pr
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