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User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1729 times:
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For those of you not in the know, X-Factor is the UK reality show where the public vote for who should be the next music star - I am sure that most countries now have a program of this format, typically with one judge who is "Mr Nasty"
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Every year, the winning song generally takes the top spot on the UK Music charts at Christmas.

This year it seems, the campaign to stop the X-Factor song from hitting the number one spot on facebook has gained enough steam to actually stop the X-Factor song from making the top spot.

The song chosen is Killing in the name of, by Rage against the machine. Admittedly, I purchased this song today - it is a great song, and I am also amazed to see the power behind social networking.

Simon Cowell even criticised the campaign himself, calling it "silly"

The mass media has now picked up on it, and the word seems to be spreading.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009...rage-against-the-machine-christmas
http://www.nme.com/news/rage-against-the-machine/48877
http://new.uk.music.yahoo.com/blogs/...d/19324/rage-against-the-x-factor/

What's your opinions?

Kev.

[Edited 2009-12-15 15:14:33]


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User currently offlineFruitbat From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 551 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1710 times:

And I'd encourage as many as possible in the UK to do the same before midnight on Saturday 19th December.

Not as an anti-talent show thing, or as an anti-Simon Cowell thing (he's a bit paranoid isn't he - bless!) but as a protest against the ongoing cynical manipulation of what used to be a great Christmas tradition.

I remember when the outcome of the race for the Xmas number one was the subject of much speculation, and finding out who won was one of the signs that the big day was imminent - but now it's been turned into a "so-what" event and all the magic has gone.

And that's why I have already bought the RATM single.

And yes, I do know that Cowell profits from this either way due to his involvement in Sony Music Publishing; but it's about protesting against the manipulation, not the money.



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User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 614 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

I already have the album with "Killing In The Name" on but I've downloaded it again, for obvious reasons!

Come on, lets do it!


User currently offlineDanTaylor2006 From UK - England, joined Feb 2006, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

And I just joined a group on Facebook called "Who gives a toss who is No 1 in the charts at christmas" so...

I'm sick to the back teeth of hearing about, and getting invites to, this "Rage Against The Machine for Christmas No1." Yes, I like Rage Against The Machine, yes, I already have Killing In The Name Of... no, I won't buy another copy!

The RATM song will chart at #2 (if current reports of it beating X Factor on downloads are to be believed) purely because the X Factor single is physically released tomorrow, and therefore a LOT more sales will come between now and Sunday.

Isn't it a tiny bit ironic that people are doing this to "protest against manipulation" when, in a way, you're being manipulated by the creators of these groups? Someone had to come up with the idea... someone, therefore, has influenced you into buying it in the first place...

Whoever gets #1 will get #1... be it X Factor or RATM, I'm not all that bothered really. Having said all of the above... it would be interesting if RATM did it, purely because of how old the song is. But, given physical release of the X Factor song is tomorrow... I'm not sure it'll do it.

[Edited 2009-12-15 18:31:41]


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User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

The real question is surely why there is no original music around that's good or popular enough to beat out a manufactured pop-act!

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 3):
Isn't it a tiny bit ironic that people are doing this to "protest against manipulation" when, in a way, you're being manipulated by the creators of these groups?

 yes 

Well said.



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User currently offlineSpeedBirdA380 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

I like the idea that they are doing it but I could not really give a monkeys about the UK charts anymore....so much manufactured teenage rubbish with the main goal of making money. Ask me to name one of the Xmas number 1's from the past ten years and I could not name one.

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 3):


Isn't it a tiny bit ironic that people are doing this to "protest against manipulation" when, in a way, you're being manipulated by the creators of these groups? Someone had to come up with the idea... someone, therefore, has influenced you into buying it in the first place...

I dont know....I mean its only a one off thing not year after year like X factor.


User currently offlineFruitbat From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 551 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

The irony has been pointed out on numerous occasions. And it's a fair point but I'd suggest that most of the 900k+ members of the facebook group are more than intelligent enough to pick up on the point themselves.

From an interview with the guy who started the thing....

"We're not spoiling the party. It's just us saying - we've had an X Factor No1 for so long now, we want something different. And that's all we're trying to do."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...he-man-behind-Xmas-No1-furore.html

IMO as a matter of principle all the UK rock fans on here should buy the download before midnight!  Big grin



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