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I Am So Upset Right Now.  
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Posted (12 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 3226 times:

Ok I have had it.

These new forum administrators are not working out. I was willing to stand by and see how they worked out but now I am pissed, and I will tell you why.

I just had two damm topics deleted, in the last few minutes

Last time I checked it wasn't a copyright violation to post something if the article's source is cited. As in credit to where it came from and if available who wrote it. In both cases I either had the name of the paper and the author or I had the name of the paper and a direct link to the author.

This has never been a problem in the near three years that I have been posting here. I don't recall a major change in copyright laws.

I would like to remind them, these so called administrators, that it isn't their job to make up there own rules. A little maturity from you would be nice, VC-10 and I Like To Fly, I am looking in your direction.


That being said I am sure this post will be deleted by somebody here but I have got to let this out. It is really agrivating.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 3147 times:

L-188. Join the club. There are allot of rather unhappy people here, especially with recent post deletions. I equate it to baseball.....every unpire seems to have his own strikezone, as opposed to the uniform strike zone stated in the rules. Seems that the new "moderators" all have different standards on what get's deleted, no matter what we are told.

User currently offlineTCAS From France, joined Sep 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

OH MY GOD!!! The exact thing happened to me.

I entitled a topic named "Memphis Spotting." It was deleted because it was a childish topic. I am raging mad too.

!!


User currently offlineTCAS From France, joined Sep 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

Just had another one deleted.

User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 3127 times:

"Childish topic". Yeah because it's so childish to want to maybe learn spotting areas in Memphis or something along that nature.

User currently offlineTCAS From France, joined Sep 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Watewate and I Like To Fly deleted mine.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

Five will get you ten that this topic gets deleted for the same reason.

Ha-Ha.

I am glad that I am not the only one that is getting upset by stuff like this lately.

Especially when one trys to respect copyrights by citing the source of the story.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 3095 times:

In Case people are wonder here are the postings and the messages that were sent to me by the administrators.

L-188,
Your message with topic "Greatest Moments In History"
has been removed from the discussion forum on Airliners.net.
The reason is as follows:

COPYRIGHT VIOLATION
Do not post copyright protected material. Examples include press releases and
images
that you haven't photographed yourself. You may however include photos from our
database as long as you link to them in the way described in the help section.

Personal message from forum admin:
"You even admit you stole the
list from abcnews, at least
you were honest. But you
can't do that, sorry."


Please consider this to be a fair and friendly notice. In
order for a forum to function in a way that benefits all its
members, there have to be rules, both explicit and implicit.
Kindly stay within the rules in the future.

The rules of the forum (which you have agreed to follow):
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/rules.main?confirm=no

Sincerely,
I Like To Fly
Forum Moderator
Airlines.net


A copy of the removed/archived/moved post is included below:
-----------------------------------------

Greatest Moments In History

Posted by L-188 (L_188@hotmail.com)

500 B.C.-A.D. 500: Roman So-Called Civilization — All public toilets feature a
stick with a sponge attached to its end, soaking in a bucket of brine. Citizens
use the tool to freshen up.

1391: The King's Pleasure — Chinese emperors begin ordering toilet paper in
sheets measuring 2 feet by 3 feet.

1596: A Royal Flush — Sir John Harington, a godson of Queen Elizabeth I, invents
the first flushing toilet (a distinction often attributed to plumber Thomas
Crapper).

1700s: Damn Niblets! — Colonial Americans wipe with corncobs, later switching to
old newspapers, catalogues and almanacs.

1857: Every Sheet Bears My Name — New York entrepreneur Joseph C. Gayetty
manufactures the first packaged pre-moistened sheets of bathroom tissue — called
"therapeutic paper" — in packs of 500 for 50 cents. Gayetty is so proud of his
innovation that he had his name imprinted on each sheet.

1861-1904: The Gifts of Thomas Crapper — British plumber Thomas Crapper
revolutionizes the toilet with a series of plumbing-related patents.

1872: Kimberly Meets Clark — Charles Benjamin Clark, a 28-year-old Civil War
veteran, recruits John A. Kimberly to join him in building a paper mill in
Wisconsin.

1890: On a Roll — Scott Paper introduces toilet paper on a roll. But the paper
goods company is somewhat embarrassed to be associated with such an
"unmentionable" thing and refuses to put its name on the product. Instead, the
toilet paper bears the name of intermediaries. As a result, at the beginning of
the 20th century, the Waldorf Hotel in New York becomes a leader in the toilet
paper business.

1902: Enter the Green Bay Giant — Northern Paper Mills, the company that later
became Quilted Northern, opens, producing Northern Tissue.

1916: Gas Masks Become Sanitary Napkins — Kimberly-Clark begins concentrating on
a special wadding paper. With World War I brewing in Europe, this product,
Cellucotton, was adapted for use as a filter in gas masks and bandages. Nurses
began using it as sanitary pads. Cellucotton was renamed "Cellu-Naps," and
then "Kotex."

1920: The Tissue and the Pop-Up Box — Kimberly-Clark introduces the Kleenex
tissue. Nine years later, this product is marketed in the patented Pop-Up box.

1928: From Charming to Charmin — Hoberg paper introduces Charmin. The logo — a
woman's head from a cameo pin — was designed to appeal to feminine fashions of
the day. A female employee called the packaging "charming," and the product's
brand name was born.

1932: Wiping Away Depression — Charmin tries to mitigate the pain of the Great
Depression by introducing the economy-sized four-roll pack.

1935: Who's Got the Tweezers? — Northern Tissue is hailed as one of the few
splinter-free toilet papers on the market.

1942: A Softer World — St. Andrew's Paper Mill in England introduces two-ply
toilet paper.

1944: Patriotic Toilet Paper Duty — The United States honors Kimberly-Clark with
an "E" Award (for excellence in commercial services) for its heroic effort
supplying soldiers fighting in World War II.

1964: Enter Mr. Whipple — He appears for more than 20 years in TV, radio and
print advertising. The real George Whipple was the president of the Benton &
Bowles advertising agency, which came up with the "Please, don't squeeze the
Charmin" ad campaign. He sold the rights to his name to Procter & Gamble for
$1. Dick Wilson, the vaudeville veteran who portrayed Mr. Whipple on TV, later
recalled his agent calling him about the project.

"My agent asked me, 'What do you think of toilet paper?' And I told him, 'I
think everybody should use it.'"

For his role in making Charmin the No. 1 toilet paper in America, Wilson's
salary grew to $300,000 a year, and Procter & Gamble promised him a "lifetime
supply" of toilet paper.

1973: The Johnny Carson Toilet Paper Scare — Johnny Carson makes a joke about
the United States facing an acute shortage of toilet paper. This prompts viewers
to run out to stores and begin hoarding. Carson apologizes the next day for
causing the scare and retracts his remark.

1991: Covert TP — The U.S. military uses toilet paper to camouflage its tanks in
Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War.

1995: The Great Toilet Paper Caper — A Philadelphia city employee is charged
with stealing $34,000 worth of toilet paper from Veterans Stadium just before an
Eagles football game. The accused, Ricardo Jefferson, was fired. City spokesman
Tony Radwanski said: "We don't really know how long this was going on. We only
looked at a 10-month period from October 1994 to August 1995, but man, he really
wiped that stadium clean."

1999: Paperless Toilet — Japanese inventors unveil the paperless toilet. The
device washes, rinses and blow-dries the user's bottom with a heating element.

2000: Men Are From Folders, Women Are From Wadders — A Kimberly-Clark marketing
survey on bathroom habits finds that women are "wadders" and men are
"folders." Women also tend to use much more toilet paper than men.



Buck Wolf is entertainment producer at ABCNEWS.com. This list was stolen from
them


He apparently didn't see Buck Wolfs name at the bottom of the page and who he works for


L-188,
Your message with topic "Customs Finally Gets It's Head Out Of It's ......."
has been removed from the discussion forum on Airliners.net.
The reason is as follows:

COPYRIGHT VIOLATION
Do not post copyright protected material. Examples include press releases and
images
that you haven't photographed yourself. You may however include photos from our
database as long as you link to them in the way described in the help section.


Please consider this to be a fair and friendly notice. In
order for a forum to function in a way that benefits all its
members, there have to be rules, both explicit and implicit.
Kindly stay within the rules in the future.

The rules of the forum (which you have agreed to follow):
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/rules.main?confirm=no

Sincerely,
VC-10
Forum Moderator
Airlines.net


A copy of the removed/archived/moved post is included below:
-----------------------------------------

Customs Finally Gets It's Head Out Of It's .......

Posted by L-188 (L_188@hotmail.com)

Finally some common sense starts filtering back in. How are you going to catch
terrorists if they fly on airlines that bypass your country because of idiotic
and unneeded unloading requirements.



Customs lifts baggage rule

The U.S. Customs Service has reinstated the clearance rules that were in effect
before Sept. 11 for passengers on flights stopping in Alaska.

The move is expected to increase the number of international passenger flights
passing through Alaska, Gov. Tony Knowles said Tuesday.

Following the terrorist attacks, new federal security rules required that
baggage on foreign airlines be inspected when they first landed in the United
States, even if the plane was headed for another airport.

That meant that international carriers stopping to refuel in Anchorage had to
unload baggage for inspection. The measure added hours to the normal one-hour
layover.

Cathay Pacific, China Airlines, Korean Air and Asiana stopped landing some
flights in Anchorage because of the delays and went, instead, to Canadian
airports.

Several of the carriers have reinstated their Alaska flights or indicated they
plan to do so soon.

Anchorage Daily News story


Again there is the name of the paper that published, which is hotlinked since there isn't an authors name given with the story.

Sure they aren't in MLA formate but the sources at least and where available the author is cited.




OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 3071 times:

Boy did I crunk up that last line.

Sure, they are not in MLA format but the sources are at least cited and where available the the author is cited.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

I had the same thing happen to me recently. I had a topic concerning a get together at YYZ with people deleted because it was a "childish" post. I was really pissed off too! I still have that email.

Another time, I had a topic deleted because it was "argued to death" eventhough I added new arguments to that thread, while others had stuff that would more aptly fit the description. But come on now, this is a public forum! People should be able to freely add what they want to here, and not have some shmoe decide what THEY want others to read or not. There are MANY useless threads, but I don't read them if I don't want to!!! Unless there is something illegal or really rude, using obnoxious language, etc, then a message should stay intact.

Anyways, L-188, you are not alone.



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3413 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Some Moderators are on a rather large power trip. They need to understand it isn't donig anything to improve the quality of these forums.  Insane

User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 3076 times:

TCAS,
I deleted your thread because it was indeed irrelevent. If you need to contact someone for personal info, don't start a thread titled 'Azjubilee' and ask about his schedule. Last time I checked, A.net wasn't set up to be your personal messenger; get yourself one of the instant messengers.

Just so everyone knows, all the mods receive deleted threads/posts in their email inbox for review. I can say with confidence that not all deletions are unanimous- and mods talk to one another to establish a 'standard'. Some posts are not clear cut as others- so it'll take sometime for mods to get comfortable.

I, for one, have only deleted two messages thus far; TCAS's post being one of them. I can say for certain that neither had their place in the forum.

I understand the frustration of A.net users. I don't agree with all the deletions- but they were deleted nonetheless and I trust the judgements of fellow mods.


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4810 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

(Putting on the "Moderator" hat for a second)

Guys, in a lot of cases it is the right decision to delete these posts even though it seems innocent enough.

The copyright policy from ABCNews is available at: http://disney.go.com/legal/conditions_of_use.html
Clearly, it states that you cannot reproduce their site content.

Generally, most sites don't allow cut and pastes of their content. If you're in doubt, the best thing is to provide a link to the site. While it may be a bit of a pain in the butt, no matter how much you don't like it this site is obliged to respect the copyright of others.


User currently offlineI Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

CPDC10-30 has it. I deleted it because it is Copyright protected and just saying who it belongs to doesn't cut it. I understand the frustration somewhat, but don't tell me what I did and didn't see. I saw it all, it was all against the rules. If you wanted it clarified I do have an e-mail address.

TCAS, you just got an e-mail from Johan... might want to read that before moaning about your deletion too.


User currently offlineAdministrator From Sweden, joined May 1999, 3251 posts.
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 3214 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
SITE ADMIN

This is a really useless topic. L-188, read the rules of the forum and stop whining. You can quote parts of a copyright protected text and summarize it in your own words but not copy the whole thing for God sake (am I the only one who thinks this is obvious?).

KROC, from now on I'd appreciate if you'd stay out of issues like these, you never add anything of value.

Every post deletion is emailed to every moderator including myself and if there's any problems I will deal with them in private together with the other moderators. They are all new and working hard so give them a damn break.

Enough of this!

Johan



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