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User currently offlineBambicruz From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 294 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 218 times:

A couple of friends of mine and I are planning on going to israel this summer for vacation ( I found an awesome deal for a 2 weeks circuit in israel , including airfare casablanca-tel aviv with visits to haifa and tel aviv and stay at a resort in eilat )
but the guys i'm going with are very concerned with the security over there, as a jew i feel like israel is a welcoming place to me, but the other guys are not jewish, all of them are muslims and fear that israelis might kill them or harrass them if they know that they are from a muslim country.

what do you think ?


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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 192 times:

Interesting question, normally I would just laugh, but I suppose in the current climate, there is an element of substance to the fears. As far as them being killed by Israeli's, I think you will be fine, but they may get a little more attention than they would get at other times.

You will have a fantastic time, Israel has some excellent things to do for visitors. Personally I loved climbing masada, swimming in the dead sea, the beaches are great, I really enjoyed myself in ranana(just outside tel aviv), just body surfed all day. The wailing wall in Jerusalem is interesting to say the least.

Jeremy


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 186 times:

Bambi,

Ignore TNNH's comment, I don't know if he's joking or not.

I'm Israeli, and the atmosphere between Muslims and Jews living in Israel is perfectly fine. You're friends have nothing to worry about, they should just have a good trip.



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User currently offlineBambicruz From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 180 times:

TWA, dude! I understand their concerns, with the tensions between israel and other arab countries now, the might be mistaken for egyptians or lebanese or whatever.

another friend of mine had a very good experience in israel ( who by the way is a muslim ). while talking to his girlfriend on the street of haifa, one israeli guy came over to him and asked him in moroccan : are you from morocco ? he said: yes i am, I'm here for vacation. he told me the other guy hugged him and told him : I sooo miss my country, always good to see someone from back home. the guy invited them to his house. his girlfriend told him that this israelis are extremly friendly from what she experienced.

anyway back to the point, we are definetly going, it's just that we're going with some fears that a bomber might explode at any time, like I said they might be mistaken for arabs from neighboring countries.




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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 172 times:

Why not go to the Italian or French Riviera, or come to the US. I would not travel to Israel right now, it just isn't safe.

UAL747


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 171 times:

it's just that we're going with some fears that a bomber might explode at any time

I think being Muslim may actually help them in that instance

Jer


User currently offlineBambicruz From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 167 times:

europe is a very popular place, but we want to experience something different. and israel is pretty touristic place.

no offense but, why bother with all the procedure to get a visa to the US after what happened in september.



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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 165 times:

None taken, but why go to a country where things like Sept. 11 happen all the time? Personally, I feel the US is still much safer than Israel, plus, its just not a good idea to travel to countries experiencing political and civil turmoil.

UAL747


User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 163 times:

I do wonder sometimes why people choose to move to Israel. I like being able to sleep at night without worrying my house will be demolished with me in it, or someone blowing it up.

UAL747


User currently offlineBambicruz From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 163 times:

that's why my family never thought of moving there duh !  Smile


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User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 141 times:

UAL, thats some rather ignorant comments youve been making.
First of all, if your going to say a countries unsafe, maybe you should check the facts first.
Is israel unsafe? Most of it no, some of it very. Tel Aviv isn't having houses demolished or daily suicide bombers. Nothings going down there. Its still safe as ever. You go into palastinian waters and it is very dangerous. People don't understand that most of Israel isn't under siege, just a small part of it.


User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1313 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 110 times:

From all of the "experets" here, I am the only one who is acctually from Israel.
Now, when the israeli turrisem situation is not the best, israel is welcoming, as it always did, people who come to see this amazing & butifull place.
I am glad that u desided to come in the summer to Israel, & i am sure that u all will have a grate time.
Israel is a safe place.
The impretion that u all get from the CNN & the BBC etc is wrong. Thay show u tanks & war, in the West Bank. Yes, in the WEST BANK. There is no war in Israel itself. The Israeli peopel live a normal life, like the Americans in the USA or the British in the UK.
& about your friends....your quas show that u have never been in israel, well, just let me say that about 15% of the Israelis are muslims...
Nothing will happen to them. Trast me.
If u want to, u can e-mail me & i will give u advises for Israel, tips & places that only locals know about.
Hope i helped u.
Jonathan B




"In Israel, on order to be a realist, one's must believe in miracles" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 95 times:

Don't discount me to EL-AL. I'm from Israel too. But he's right, its a safe place to go visit.

Of course, you have to worry about the bombings that happen in Israel. Just take some precautions and you should be fine.



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User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 88 times:

well, ive been to tel aviv a couple times ( on business ) and have nothing but good to say about it. we went and visited the wall, the church of the nativity, old jerusalem. most of the religious sites except of course the Muslim ones (since no one but a muslim is allowed in there, knid of odd considering that other religions enjoy others seeing their sites but thats another subject ). we really didnt have any troubles and it was for the most part an enjoyable experience.


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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 75 times:

Here's some photo's I've got of Israel that I have online.



Memorial for Ben Gurion



Caves in Northern Israel



Picture from inside of Acre Prison. Has a lot of history behind it.



All too familiar landmark.



Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem




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