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Not Again: Pat Robertson Claims Haiti Is Cursed  
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8164 posts, RR: 26
Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3113 times:

Can someone please take this man off television before he embarrasses the nation any further??  banghead  This story is being reported all over the globe. Yes, nobody should be listening to this nutball at all, but since he has 20 million US viewers, it still gets attention.

The Rev. Pat Robertson, on his CBN broadcast today, offered his own explanation of the earthquake in Haiti:

"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it," he said. "They were under the heel of the French ... and they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, 'We will serve you if you'll get us free from the French.'

"True story. And the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal,'" Robertson said. "Ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after another."


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...iti_cursed_since_Satanic_pact.html


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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11378 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3108 times:

Other than alleging himself to be Christian, is there any difference between he and the radical clerics we are fighting against?


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User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

I would say that I am shocked and appalled, but considering it's Robertson, what else is new?
It's just the latest in a line of complete bullsh*t spewed by the guy that does nothing but offend everyone outside his core base.
Heck, he probably has an automatic press release dispenser. All you need to do is punch in the type of tragedy, and the geographic location, and it will come up with an original document blaming gays/compact with the devil/etc. for the tragedy.


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2987 times:



Quoting D L X (Reply 1):
is there any difference between he and the radical clerics we are fighting against?

Yes there are big differences Pat has spend millions of dollars helping the poor ...although in the dumb-ass remark category they are like brothers. Pat was way over the top here and looks like a A#1 fooleo .



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User currently offlineStarbuk7 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 599 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2989 times:

Well, there is a story out there that collaborates what he said.

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=14079

Don't know if it is completely true but it is an interesting read.


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2982 times:



Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Can someone please take this man off television before he embarrasses the nation any further??

I don't think anyone really associates Pat Robertson's comments with the feelings of America.

I don't want anyone to think they represent that of Christianity either. I wish he'd get yanked off the air before he embarrasses Christianity even further.



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User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2940 times:
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Quoting Starbuk7 (Reply 4):
Don't know if it is completely true but it is an interesting read.

Interesting is the right word. Tried real hard to make it all sound quite treasonable, too -- right up until it accuses Hilary of having a Christmas tree decorated with drug paraphernalia.

Calling it "collaboration" is a bit of a stretch though.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2939 times:



Quoting D L X (Reply 1):
Other than alleging himself to be Christian, is there any difference between he and the radical clerics we are fighting against?

No difference, but it looks like someone already defended him.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 3):
Pat has spend millions of dollars helping the poor

So has Hesbollah. So has Hamas. So has Osama bin Laden.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2926 times:

That reminds me of one of those bus preachers that pop up in Costa Rica. When talking about the 2004 tsunami, the preacher said that it was a punishment from God for those people for not believing in him. Ridiculous, but true. Maybe Mr Robertson took a page out of that preacher's book.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2920 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 8):
Maybe Mr Robertson took a page out of that preacher's book.

This is not the first time Robertson has done this. He has been doing it for decades.



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2909 times:



Quoting Starbuk7 (Reply 4):
Well, there is a story out there that collaborates what he said.

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=14079

Don't know if it is completely true but it is an interesting read.

I read that article and some of the others you can find there. I'm putting my 50 GBX on it being "a bit fanciful".  Smile


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19786 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2829 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 3):

Yes there are big differences Pat has spend millions of dollars helping the poor

Yes, but his donations always come with a caveat. Those donations seem to be more marketing tools to bring new members to his organization than true donations.

Quoting Starbuk7 (Reply 4):

Don't know if it is completely true but it is an interesting read.

Um... it's the ranting of a conspiracy-crazed nut. Voodoo? Devils? Blood of newborn babies? Clinton being impervious to Republican attacks? (clearly he wasn't)

Not surprised that Robertson believes it.

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 5):

I don't think anyone really associates Pat Robertson's comments with the feelings of America.

20 million people? That's 5-10%. That's just scary.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2817 times:



Quoting D L X (Reply 1):
Other than alleging himself to be Christian, is there any difference between he and the radical clerics we are fighting against?

Not really.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19786 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2806 times:



Quoting D L X (Reply 1):
Other than alleging himself to be Christian, is there any difference between he and the radical clerics we are fighting against?

Other than the fact that Pat Robertson hasn't openly advocated terrorism (that I know of), not much.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2792 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):

Other than the fact that Pat Robertson hasn't openly advocated terrorism (that I know of), not much.

Actually, he has. Remember when he called for "taking out" Hugo Chavez?



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2781 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 11):
20 million people? That's 5-10%. That's just scary.

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble finding the figures you're referring to...can you help?



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8164 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2732 times:



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 15):

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble finding the figures you're referring to...can you help?

CBN claims that's the size of their viewership.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2728 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 8):
Maybe Mr Robertson took a page out of that preacher's book.


This is not the first time Robertson has done this. He has been doing it for decades.

OK, I see your point, but we can still agree that the guy is a nutjob, just like that preacher I was talking about.


User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10047 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2699 times:
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Quoting Starbuk7 (Reply 4):
Well, there is a story out there that collaborates what he said.

Firstly, I think you mean corroborates.

Secondly, although that story does corroborate what he said, it is also the most ludicrous "history" I've ever read.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

Rev. Robinson's program 'The 700 Club' is shown on Monday to Friday evenings on the ABC Family cable/dish channel. ABC Family was previously the Pat Robinson owned Christian Broadcasting Network channel. I recommened now here, with posts at political sites I go to and did on my own to have people e-mail Disney corporation (who owns ABC Family) and ABC Family Channel via thier websites, to ask they withdraw the showing of the '700 Club' and other programs involving Rev. Robinson due to his deeply offensive and racist statements as to the devestation in Haiti.

My point is that if anyone who appears on their network programs (ABC, ESPN and others) or any Employee of Disney ever made a like public racist statment they would be fired too. Disney Corp., do the right thing and end showing his programs - fire him. (Maybe ABC Family could hire Jay Leno to replace his show).


User currently offlineThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2675 times:

He's a nutjob....the talk of his donations to help the poor...as marketing tools...to me..makes perfect sense


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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5295 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2669 times:



Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Can someone please take this man off television before he embarrasses the nation any further?? This story is being reported all over the globe. Yes, nobody should be listening to this nutball at all, but since he has 20 million US viewers, it still gets attention.

What a nutjob. What I find particularly galling is that he preaches his particular brand of hate and insanity in the name of Jesus Christ. And this from an agnostic.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
No difference, but it looks like someone already defended him.

I know I'm shocked!  Yeah sure

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
So has Hesbollah. So has Hamas. So has Osama bin Laden.

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Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
Actually, he has. Remember when he called for "taking out" Hugo Chavez?

Or when he prayed for Supreme Court justices to die...



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2665 times:



Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Can someone please take this man off television before he embarrasses the nation any further??

Those comments are exactly the kind of comments that keep him marginalized. I hope he continues to make stupid comments like that so people in actual power will keep their distance from him.

Quoting D L X (Reply 1):
Other than alleging himself to be Christian, is there any difference between he and the radical clerics we are fighting against?

Yes, as bizzare as his comments are, he's not asking his followers to go out and commit suicide by blowing themselves up and taking as many ordinary every day muslims going about their lives with them as they can.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2665 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
Actually, he has. Remember when he called for "taking out" Hugo Chavez?

Well this isn't such a bad thing.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 19):
My point is that if anyone who appears on their network programs (ABC, ESPN and others) or any Employee of Disney ever made a like public racist statment they would be fired too. Disney Corp., do the right thing and end showing his programs - fire him

This may just happen. He statements have been terrible.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19786 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2641 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):

Actually, he has. Remember when he called for "taking out" Hugo Chavez?

That's not terrorism, which is random attacks on civilians. That's assassination. Not that assassination is fine with me, but I'm more comfortable with that than I am with terrorism.

Now, why I a so-called "Christian" would be advocating murder is beyond any Biblical reasoning I can come up with. "Thou Shalt Not Murder." I think that's pretty clearly laid out.


25 JoeCanuck : I thought he died years ago.
26 LTU932 : The 700 Club still exists? I thought it was cancelled long ago. I do recall that between 10 to 20 years ago, they used to show the 700 Club on Costa
27 Post contains images Zippyjet : It's quite intersting if not amusing that Conservative talk radio has not talked about this. They are still harping on Sen. Harry Reid's comments. And
28 TheCommodore : The guy is a waste of space. Its a shame he wasn't in Haiti to experience the earthquake himself, that way he might have a different view of things. H
29 Aaron747 : True enough but this story is all over the globe - which gives Americans, Christian and non alike, a bad mark. In media matters, image and perception
30 N1120A : Acts of assassination are often also acts of terrorism.
31 F9Animal : I will not disagree with the fact that they are cursed. I mean, those poor people seriously have had a heck of a time. Now, throw in a disaster. I fe
32 MadameConcorde : This has to deal with religion and superstition. None of the two have true realistic grounds. It is all about beliefs. We have seen - even in recent
33 Flighty : Robertson's hateful words would please the Devil very much.
34 FlyOverStater : Pat Robertson said something stupid? lol. Good thing the earthquake did not hit Scotland. Robertson would probably remind us that their country is a d
35 DocLightning : Eh. We can go back and forth. Either way, it's not the random violence that AQ likes to do. I'm pretty anti-violence. Although my baser instincts are
36 N1120A : While I think most of us here and Disney would love that, they can't. Robertson contracted to maintain the 700 Club's presence after he sold The Fami
37 DocLightning : The victims are. Although I was enjoying the conversation about beatings for Mr. Robertson. Am I a bad man for it? I mean, what do I have to lose? I'
38 AGM100 : True , much like the Vatican to be honest. And Robertson believes that the catholic church is basically his sworn enemy. Evangelicals see the catholi
39 Lowrider : Regardless of your opinions of the man, I think most will agree that bringing this story out at this time with so much suffering going on is a poor ch
40 Flighty : Hey, that was a very nice post, even if it was just your viewpoint on it. Thanks. I did not recognize that angle on things. Also very interesting.
41 Post contains links GDB : That charmer Rush weighs his (physically considerable bulk) in; http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf.../15/rush-limbaugh-haiti-earthquake You can wast
42 Aaron747 : It's not really opinion in this case, as the jury is long out on the guy. It's a pretty simple science - when all the data says the same thing, it be
43 OA412 : Absoultely disgusting and yet not one bit shocking. Limbaugh has made a career out of spouting off some of the most hateful, racist, homophobic, myso
44 Lowrider : Do you really intend to claim that your opening post, the following in particular, are devoid of your opinion? I only include my opening caveat becau
45 Aaron747 : Hyperbole aside, yes. In light of these, his post 9/11 comments and many other transgressions of judgment, it's readily apparent to most that he does
46 Mir : His comments are arguably worse than Robertson's. -Mir
47 Post contains links Santosdumont : If you think about it, both Robertson's and Limbaugh's antics have a Satanic tincture to them...you know, just sit back in your plush Ziggurat and ver
48 DXing : Ya beat me too it! When I heard the audio of Glover saying it was our fault because we didn't reach an agreement in Copenhagen I thought, earthquakes
49 Avek00 : Without expressing opinion on Pat Robertson's specific remarks, I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I do think Haiti might indeed be "cursed". I mean
50 Cgnnrw : Didn't he also "out" the Teletubbies?
51 GDB : Avek00, you are right about the place being seemingly cursed forever, or since it's early 19th century formation. But it's a very human curse, no room
52 OA412 : That was Jerry Falwell.
53 Us330 : Yeah, but it's one thing to say that a country is cursed, and has had a ridiculous streak of misfortune, and it's another to blame them for a freakin
54 OA412 : Exactly. I think we can all agree that given Haiti's immense poverty and the seemingly never-ending parade of dictators the country does appear to be
55 DocLightning : That was hilarious. When he said that Tinkie Winkie was a gay icon, all the gays went: "Huh? You're totally off your... wait a minute... actually, th
56 OA412 : Yup. I think it, once again, showed how resourceful we are, as a community, at taking something that was intended to be hateful, demystifying it, emb
57 AGM100 : Doing some cursory reading on Haitian history .... what a sad tale. Lets just say that if you believe in the devil.... he sure has been making life mi
58 DXing : Is anyone really that suprised that someone who views the Bible literally as Robertson does, that he would say something like that? Really, are you a
59 DocLightning : Woah woah woah. Mr. Robertson views the Bible "literally?" HELL NO! Mr. Robertson does not view the Bible literally. He views it conveniently. As in
60 N1120A : Actually, Glover's reps actually came out with a press release that made it semi-plausible. That said, Danny took exactly the wrong tact. He should h
61 AGM100 : Woa Doc , he has his religious belief and has the right to say it. If you understand Protestant teaching you will know what he meant by it. Haiti cho
62 11Bravo : You're right, he does have a right to say it, but that doesn't mean he should. To many people Robertson is a simple minded, ignorant, religious extre
63 AGM100 : I agree , but wishing death on him was a little extreme. I do not align with Robertson's religious view , but in context you understand the curse com
64 DXing : Yes he does, especially the old testament with it's fire and brimestone judgements. Those are in the new testament and it seems to me that he sticks
65 Santosdumont : But what's frightening is that Robertson is no "The End is Near" panhandler from your local corner. He controls an empire that includes a university
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