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User currently offlineSKYSERVICE_330 From Canada, joined Sep 2000, 1419 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

Pie hit should earn PETA 'terrorist' label: MP
Animal rights group scoffs at MP's 'chest-beating'
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
CBC News

A protest pie thrown at the federal fisheries minister should make Ottawa look into whether an animal-rights group should be labelled "terrorist," says an MP from Newfoundland and Labrador.

Gerry Byrne, the Liberal MP for Humber-St. Barbe-Baie Verte, said the behaviour of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is threatening and intimidating and puts seal hunters at risk.

Byrne was speaking after the group known as PETA claimed responsibility for a pie attack Monday against Federal Fisheries Minister Gail Shea in Burlington, Ont.

More at: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundlan.../26/nl-byrne-terrorism-012610.html
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Doing this would prevent foreigners from entering Canada and assaulting/intimidating a member of the Crown, as was done with the pie incident, if they are a known member of PETA. Furthermore, it would severely limit their ability to fund-raise in Canada. At minimum it would provide an interesting test case for the legislation.

Thoughts? Legitimate proposal or chest thumping?

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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21625 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

I'm no fan of PETA, but throwing a pie is not equivalent to terrorism.


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User currently offlineVolz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

It's just the same as the NRA, which means it's an organization that is filled with too many nutjobs at the top.

User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

PETA was conducting a protest against a company I used to work for. Interestingly they protested against us for our bad treatment of chickens, but did not protest against the company which ran the chicken houses and processing plants. But PETA was paid about a half-million dollars a year to advise that company on animal rights issues.

Quite a few companies in the US around the world pay PETA up to millions of dollars per year for such advisory services.

We would not pay them because we do not own, grow or process any chickens, or other animals. We bought from the same suppliers as your grocery store - just bigger quantities at set contract rates.

One day the President of that division was driving home after picking up her three kids at Daycare when PETA protesters surrounded her car on the street leading to her home. They splashed the car with fake blood, screamed obscenities at the children for their _____ murder of a mother, and rocked the car. They only left the scene when the police arrived. Two were arrested and prosecuted. One was a full-time PETA employee.

Yet PETA successfully sold the story to the media that the people did no harm and were only non-members upset by the horrible treatment of chickens.

PETA - hypocrites, blackmailers, scam artists - yes

Terrorists - according to the way people want to define terrorism on the Somalia Pirates threat thing.

Not in my opinion - just a high scale protection racket.


User currently offlineATTart From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1766 times:

Here is another story on PETA..

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/press...table-pets-in-its-care-during-2008



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13594 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1679 times:
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If you look at the definition of terrorism, I think PETA and even Greenpeace qualify.


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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1675 times:

PETA? Terrorists? Let's not even give them the attention.

I mean, I have no qualms whatsoever with vegans or vegetarians or the general message they advertise (ethically treating animals and what not), but for some reason they can't help but be almost entirely composed of short-sighted morons. It seems like everytime I hear about them, they attack the wrong thing for the wrong reasons while ignoring the real problems. They resort to the most extreme and obnoxious measures of attempting to solve 'problems' that aren't really there. That's the exact same reason why I tend to dislike environmentalist groups like Greenpeace.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8840 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1659 times:



Quoting SKYSERVICE_330 (Thread starter):

A protest pie thrown at the federal fisheries minister should make Ottawa look into whether an animal-rights group should be labelled "terrorist," says an MP from Newfoundland and Labrador.

The day a PETA suicide bomber runs into a butcher shop or a leather store to blow herself up, or even just shoots up the place, then yes, they would be a terrorist group.

Until then, it's just a bunch of silly people with nothing better to do.



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User currently offlineFlanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1638 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1648 times:



Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 5):
I think PETA and even Greenpeace qualify.

Cant stand them both! Bunch of wackos.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9375 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

I agree with Dreadnought, throwing a pie is not enough to qualify to be labeled "terrorist".

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 3):
One day the President of that division was driving home after picking up her three kids at Daycare when PETA protesters surrounded her car on the street leading to her home. They splashed the car with fake blood, screamed obscenities at the children for their _____ murder of a mother, and rocked the car. They only left the scene when the police arrived. Two were arrested and prosecuted. One was a full-time PETA employee.

That, however not only comes close, for the people who have endure such a nightmare it is terrorism and whoever engages in such activities should spend several years behind bars. I am not an advocate of the long prison terms that are handed down in the US, but here we have a case for that.

In connection woith the above, the operating modus of PETA and other hostile "NGOs" is interesting and should be investigated by the FBI and police authoitrities in other countries. it is obvious, that large companies are paying protection money to PETA.

Now, what's the difference between PETA and the mafia? It is the same modus operandi and that qualifies PETA as a criminal organisation.



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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

When they were protesting the waste of water during meat production or something (don't quote me on that), they did so by having 2 hot chicks (the human kind!) shower right in the center of Frankfurt for half a day.

PETA rocks!  


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1871 posts, RR: 41
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1607 times:
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Quoting Racko (Reply 10):
the waste of water

Pretty sure that wasn't PETA, PETA doesn't care for water or humans. Only for animals. They try to accomplish their goals by using violence and threats. To me that makes them terrorists.

If you have half an hour to spare, make sure to watch the "Penn and Teller, Bullshit: PETA" special. It is very informative and shocking as to see what this scum gets away with. You can watch it online.

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User currently onlineEGPH From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1480 times:



Quoting SKYSERVICE_330 (Thread starter):
Doing this would prevent foreigners from entering Canada and assaulting/intimidating a member of the Crown, as was done with the pie incident, if they are a known member of PETA. Furthermore, it would severely limit their ability to fund-raise in Canada. At minimum it would provide an interesting test case for the legislation.

Thoughts? Legitimate proposal or chest thumping?

Now let's get a sense of proportion here, a member of PETA threw a pie in the face of some Canadian cabinet minister and now they are a dangerous 'terrorist organisation. Canadians are out killing innocent seals for days on end for absolutely no reason at all! I think I know who the real terrorists are and they work with the support of the Canadian government!


User currently offlineHeslop01 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1466 times:

I'm going to first admit: I'm vegetarian.



Now - throwing a pie? ... Seriously if you think that is a "terrorist attack" - then go put yourself in an actual place that is riddled with terrorism and the innocent people there who are suffering from it - then you can actually accept the correct concept of what terrorism is.

People have beliefs don't they? Yes I know that it isn't exactly a nice thing to do ... but we all fight for the things we believe in after all.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15739 posts, RR: 27
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1440 times:



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 3):
Quite a few companies in the US around the world pay PETA up to millions of dollars per year for such advisory services.

Sort of like how businesses in a certain area would pay the local Mafia to ensure that nothing happened?

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 5):
Greenpeace qualify.

If I'm not mistaken, they have done some pretty bad stuff (arson I think) which definitely borders on terrorism.



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User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1431 times:



Quoting Heslop01 (Reply 13):
but we all fight for the things we believe in after all.

Certainly - but to misquote an old saying "Your right to your opinion ends at the point of my nose."

When the fight for your belief crosses into physical action on another person, that crosses the line into criminal behavior.

Peta is a bunch of rich blackmailers who goad well meaning naieve people into commiting criminal acts of assualt and other violence.

Like most hunters and sportsmen, I do much more for welfare and care of animals than any Peta member or group. But I also understand the difference between my rights and my assualting someone who I disagree with.

Most Peta supporters do not see that difference.


User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1408 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 14):
If I'm not mistaken, they have done some pretty bad stuff (arson I think) which definitely borders on terrorism.

Greenpeace doesn't commit acts of arson, but there are certainly more extremist "environmentalist" groups that do.



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