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User currently offlineSpeedyGonzales From Norway, joined Sep 2007, 727 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...oll-of-Self-Identified-Republicans
The results range from the weird to the downright scary. I'm most disappointed that as many as 9 in 10 support the state murdering people.


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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11574 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

Quoting SpeedyGonzales (Thread starter):
I'm most disappointed that as many as 9 in 10 support the state murdering people.

There are certain instances where I agree the death penalty should be used. Not all the time, not with every murder case, but it should be an option.

I saw this story on Maddow the other night. I was not schocked so much by some of the "no" and "not sure" responses. But, some of the "yes" responses really get me. Also, there were some responses she was combining the "not sure" and "yes" responses. I thought it was enough that 39% of those polled think Obama should be impeached and 42% still believe he was not born in the United States. That is scary! I wonder how many of the responders support Palin and the Tea Party movement. That would be an interensting study.



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User currently onlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5025 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

I'll beat our republican friends here by calling BS on this poll. I refuse to believe that the average Republican is as retarted and backward as that poll seems to suggest. And if it is right, may God / Allah / Buddha,... (fill in deity of choice) help you guys in the US...

User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8824 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Quoting SpeedyGonzales (Thread starter):
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...oll-of-Self-Identified-Republicans
The results range from the weird to the downright scary. I'm most disappointed that as many as 9 in 10 support the state murdering people.

You are taking seriously a poll from the Daily Kos? Look at their polling track record - not very good. Look at the quality of their questions. And of course the fact that this is "self-described Republicans", which even I would not qualify as - i.e. it's maybe 20% of the population.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12134 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

" so, this massive poll, by non-partisan independent pollster Research 2000 of over 2,000 self-identified Republicans, was born."

Non-partisan my a$$................ Research 2000 is owned by the Daily Kos, and no self respecting Republican would consider take their poll.

                    

Did you notice the author does not have the balls to put his name on the story? Did he/she think they were fooling anyone with those questions?   

I cannot wait until his/her book "American Taliban" comes out. It will be more liberal/socialists BS in print.   


User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2310 times:

Geeze, I accessed the link and I thought I was reading a "comprehensive research poll" edited by Mein Kamph Olbermann and/or RayCha Maddeux. When will the b.s. tone down (from both f*cking retarded sides)? Regards...jack


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User currently offlinetbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
You are taking seriously a poll from the Daily Kos? Look at their polling track record - not very good. Look at the quality of their questions. And of course the fact that this is "self-described Republicans", which even I would not qualify as - i.e. it's maybe 20% of the population.

Care to post a source about the track record of their polls? Care to break down the quality of their questions, and how they might be fair / unfair? These are legitimate questions, and the point was very clearly to see what self identified Republicans identified with and believed.

As for Research 2000, they are a non-partisan polling firm that was contracted by Daily Kos, a liberal blog. The questions are clearly pointed in one direction because that is the purpose of this poll, but Research 2000 themselves are not a liberal or conservative polling group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_2000

Finally, self-prescribed Republicans amount to 24.4% composite between all polls.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/party-id.php



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User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
Did you notice the author does not have the balls to put his name on the story? Did he/she think they were fooling anyone with those questions?

No, the author's name is on the story - note the "by kos" line at the top. "kos" is the username of dailykos.com site founder and publisher Markos Moulitsas.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
You are taking seriously a poll from the Daily Kos? Look at their polling track record - not very good.

That's quite simply incorrect. Research 2000 polls are more accurate than Gallup or Zogby, among others - take a look at 538.com's pollster ratings.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/search/label/pollster%20ratings



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User currently offlinetbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 7):
That's quite simply incorrect. Research 2000 polls are more accurate than Gallup or Zogby, among others - take a look at 538.com's pollster ratings.

Wait for it.... wait for it....

"538.com is a left leaning group too!!"



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11574 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
You are taking seriously a poll from the Daily Kos
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
Non-partisan my a$$................ Research 2000 is owned by the Daily Kos, and no self respecting Republican would consider take their poll.
Quoting cptkrell (Reply 5):
I accessed the link and I thought I was reading a "comprehensive research poll" edited by Mein Kamph Olbermann and/or RayCha Maddeux.

And, when Research 2000 is contracted to do a poll about the feelings and opinions of self-identified Democrats, that poll will be on here with all the usual right-wingers crowing about how "socialist" and "bad" the Democratic party is.

C'mon, guys! We all know that, short of going to every elections office in ever district all over this country and contacting every single name on voter rolls, there is really no accurate way of taking the pulse of the nation. When polls come out, this same sh*t happens. "They are lying! That company is simply an arm of the Repblican/Democratic party! Liars! Hate!"

To those right-wingers who don't understand, this poll was about self-identified Republicans. Not Americans in general.



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2218 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
so, this massive poll, by non-partisan independent pollster Research 2000 of over 2,000 self-identified Republicans, was born."

The magic words are "self-identified". The ultra left wing Daily Kos asks a bunch of left wing loons to "identify" them sleves as Rebublicans, then they poll them! Makes sense to me.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8824 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Quoting tbar220 (Reply 6):
Care to post a source about the track record of their polls?

For one, I recall that they predicted that Coakley would win in Massachusetts, And can't recall any instance where they weren't way off.

Quoting tbar220 (Reply 6):
Care to break down the quality of their questions, and how they might be fair / unfair? These are legitimate questions, and the point was very clearly to see what self identified Republicans identified with and believed.

From the results of the poll, I will say that something is definitely wrong with the sampling. For one thing, it's heavily weighted towards older people. Also it's a phone poll. How were the people chosen? It makes a huge difference. For example, call during the daytime and you increase the chances that the respondents are unemployed. Unemployed people will tend to be less happy with the government. Daytime phoning also biases the sample to older females. Choose the names from published phone directories and you bias the sample to older people. And, you bias the sample to home owners which in turn causes a bias towards people that don't live in major cities.

What percentage of those contacted declined to be interviewed? This point is perhaps the most important. Once the sample is chosen the poll taker needs to get a very high percentage of the people to actually respond to the poll. I would be suspect of the results if anything less than 90% of the people contacted did not complete the poll. The people willing to spend the time to respond tend to be the people most dissatisfied and that severely biases the results.

On rare occasions, My wife and I get calls from Gallup or other well-known polling operation, and we'll answer their questions. Most of the time, the polling institution is some fly-by-night, lower tier operation and our response is "not interested, bye." I expect that most people are like that.

The final hint is again in the results of the polls. Many of the questions show some pretty extreme viewpoints. I have been a conservative most of my life, and most of my friends and colleagues are Republicans. I don't know any who say that Obama should be impeached, or that he wasn't born in Hawaii. The 'birthers' are a tiny minority not supported by any media or anything apart from a few kooky web sites, AFAIK. They are basically like the 9/11 truthers - and for the result to show nearly half believe it, I call bullsh&t.



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User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
Research 2000 is owned by the Daily Kos

Is there a non-partisan source that can validate the assertion that Research 2000 is owned by Daily Kos?



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User currently offlinetbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):

For one, I recall that they predicted that Coakley would win in Massachusetts, And can't recall any instance where they weren't way off.

As far as them not being "way off", I post this source for the second time in this thread.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/search/label/pollster%20ratings

They are the eighth most accurate pollster.

Another source that might help you a little bit, Research 2000 called the election a tie the day before the election at 48-48 with a margin of error of +/- 4.5.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...l-coakley-and-brown-tied-48-48.php

The final results were Brown 51.9% to Coakley 47.1%. This is well within Research 2000's prediction and margin of error.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
From the results of the poll, I will say that something is definitely wrong with the sampling

As for the sampling (and the rest of your post's points as well), I'm far from a statistician or professional to say that I know how these things are done. However I know that these things are looked at with historical trends and taken into account in some measure in the margin of error. Also, I know that a sample of 2000 people is pretty large and results in pretty accurate results.

What I'm going to do next is to see how the groupings of self identified Republicans in the Research 2000 poll compares to a poll that asks for Party ID and see if that gets broken up as well by age, gender, race, etc. Once I find that, I'll compare the two to see how similar they are.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

Quoting tbar220 (Reply 13):
What I'm going to do next is to see how the groupings of self identified Republicans in the Research 2000 poll compares to a poll that asks for Party ID and see if that gets broken up as well by age, gender, race, etc. Once I find that, I'll compare the two to see how similar they are.

Well if the people being polled are Republicans, you really don't need to worry about "race".   


**DISCLAIMER**: Before anyone gets their panties in a wad, FlyDeltaJets87 is a Republican but can laugh at himself and the stereotypes of his own party and simply making a joke.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19505 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

The religious attitudes are what alarm me the most.

Look, I can appreciate conservatism as a political doctrine, even if I'm not a conservative.

But theocracy is not a valid political doctrine. 100% of governments run by theocracies have resulted in dictatorships. The view that religion or religious reasoning should have any role in running this government is by far the most alarming doctrine there is. A religious government has the will of God no matter what decisions it makes and is not subject to popular vote. And so if the will of God is that 15yo kids will be strung up by the neck to hang until dead because they are gay, then the Iranian government, which has a direct phone line to God, will do it!

Scary it is to want to turn the U.S. government into a Christian Taliban.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8824 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
Look, I can appreciate conservatism as a political doctrine, even if I'm not a conservative.

But theocracy is not a valid political doctrine. 100% of governments run by theocracies have resulted in dictatorships. The view that religion or religious reasoning should have any role in running this government is by far the most alarming doctrine there is.

As you know, I have no use for the "religious right". But where are you getting the idea that they would be a Christian Taliban? For one thing, Christianity has nothing like Sharia.



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User currently offlinetbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 16):

As you know, I have no use for the "religious right". But where are you getting the idea that they would be a Christian Taliban? For one thing, Christianity has nothing like Sharia.

Clearly not. The Christians I knew, especially in college, were very progressive. They used their Christianity to do good and support equal rights for all. Hell, they would probably be accused of being socialists in today's atmosphere.

Unfortunately, its the loudest and richest that have the most power and voice right now, even if they are a small minority.



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

Oh boy. This just takes the cake. Let's see, where to begin?

Ultimately, these results explain why it is impossible for elected Republicans to work with Democrats to improve our country. Their base are conspiracy mongers who don't believe Obama was born in the United States, that he is the second coming of Lenin, and that he is racist against white people. They already want to impeach him despite the glaringly obvious lack of high crimes or misdemeanors.

So if someone is unsure, they automatically conclude they are for impeachment?

Given what their base demands, and this poll illustrates them perfectly, it's no wonder the GOP is the party of no

Last week at the gop summit the President was given a folder of gop ideas that he has been proclaiming for months he knew nothing about. Has anyone heard him mention those ideas since? Heard them brought up or addressed? So who exactly is the party of no?

[i]Oof. That's some serious neanderthal action going on. Gays can't serve their country, teach children, get married, or even have civil unions. That's the GOP agenda for gays, which makes the existence of the Log Cabin Republicans that much more of a mystery.

Hmmm...The question did not even address civil unions yet the author has not implied, but concluded that republicans are against civil unions.

Yep, that's an unbaised poll and why am I absolutely sure it will dovetail exactly with what he already has written for his book. Remember, he said:

As I've mentioned before, I'm putting the finishing touches on my new book, American Taliban, which catalogues the ways in which modern-day conservatives share the same agenda as radical Jihadists in the Islamic world. But I found myself making certain claims about Republicans that I didn't know if they could be backed up. So I thought, "why don't we ask them directly?" And so, this massive poll, by non-partisan independent pollster Research 2000 of over 2,000 self-identified Republicans, was born.

So the poll wasn't initiated with an unbaised result in mind.


User currently offlineAirStairs From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2021 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
The religious attitudes are what alarm me the most.

Look, I can appreciate conservatism as a political doctrine, even if I'm not a conservative.

But theocracy is not a valid political doctrine. 100% of governments run by theocracies have resulted in dictatorships. The view that religion or religious reasoning should have any role in running this government is by far the most alarming doctrine there is. A religious government has the will of God no matter what decisions it makes and is not subject to popular vote.

   Some of the responses do worry me a bit, as, on its face, the poll indicates that Republicans are straying from real conservatism to the statist opposite of the Democrats. If it's accurate, it is scary and unsettling to myself, a registered Republican.

With that said, however, you have to take anything like this from the Daily Kos with about 10,000 grains of salt.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19505 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2021 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 16):

As you know, I have no use for the "religious right". But where are you getting the idea that they would be a Christian Taliban? For one thing, Christianity has nothing like Sharia.

Uh... except for Fundamentalist Christianity. Some Fundamentalist preachers have even advocated public stoning.

Didn't you post pictures of some poor bastard being stoned in Somalia?


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8824 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
Uh... except for Fundamentalist Christianity. Some Fundamentalist preachers have even advocated public stoning.

Considering the level of support for that kind of thing, those preachers are likely to be the first ones stoned. C'mon, how can you compare?

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
Didn't you post pictures of some poor bastard being stoned in Somalia?

That was Sharia. Which has no equivalent in any other religion.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12134 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 7):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
Did you notice the author does not have the balls to put his name on the story? Did he/she think they were fooling anyone with those questions?

No, the author's name is on the story - note the "by kos" line at the top. "kos" is the username of dailykos.com site founder and publisher Markos Moulitsas.

Since I don't follow the daily kos, how am I to know him from his "user name"?

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 7):
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
You are taking seriously a poll from the Daily Kos? Look at their polling track record - not very good.

That's quite simply incorrect. Research 2000 polls are more accurate than Gallup or Zogby, among others - take a look at 538.com's pollster ratings.
Quoting 474218 (Reply 10):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
so, this massive poll, by non-partisan independent pollster Research 2000 of over 2,000 self-identified Republicans, was born."

The magic words are "self-identified". The ultra left wing Daily Kos asks a bunch of left wing loons to "identify" them sleves as Rebublicans, then they poll them! Makes sense to me.
Quoting tbar220 (Reply 13):
As far as them not being "way off", I post this source for the second time in this thread.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/search/label/pollster%20ratings

They are the eighth most accurate pollster.

Another source that might help you a little bit, Research 2000 called the election a tie the day before the election at 48-48 with a margin of error of +/- 4.5.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...l-coakley-and-brown-tied-48-48.php

The final results were Brown 51.9% to Coakley 47.1%. This is well within Research 2000's prediction and margin of error.

Hmmm, you do know that all polls, but one have a "margin of error". don't you? Do you know why? It is their safety net and claim they know that not all answers are accurate, it gives them cover from publishing incorrect numbers and the ability to say "we were right all along".

The one poll that is really accurate, 100% of the time is on election day, when the voters cast their ballots, except in FL, OH, and MN.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
The religious attitudes are what alarm me the most.

Look, I can appreciate conservatism as a political doctrine, even if I'm not a conservative.
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
100% of governments run by theocracies have resulted in dictatorships.

But, not all dictatorships are religious governments. In fact, of the ones that are, the percentage is very small.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
then the Iranian government, which has a direct phone line to God, will do it!

No, they have a direct line to Allah, God's phone number is unlisted.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
Scary it is to want to turn the U.S. government into a Christian Taliban.

Really? How many non-Christians live in the US? Some 5% worship Allah, another 4% Budda, and another 5% are Hindu, and about 15% worship no God. Collectively that is close to 1/4 of the US population and that doesn't even count those who identify themselves as devil worshippers, wickas, or other "Earth Religions".

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
except for Fundamentalist Christianity. Some Fundamentalist preachers have even advocated public stoning.

True, but what about those like Obama's friend, the "Rev." Jerimia Wright who preaches hate of the US and racism, "Revs." Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton who preach racism, and don't forget the Moorish Science Temple of America, Nation of Islam, and others of Malcom X and Louis Farrakhan "fame".


User currently offlinetbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 22):
Hmmm, you do know that all polls, but one have a "margin of error". don't you? Do you know why? It is their safety net and claim they know that not all answers are accurate, it gives them cover from publishing incorrect numbers and the ability to say "we were right all along".

Its actually not that simple. In statistics, the margin of error is actually a statistical value that is mathematically calculated, not just randomly generated to cover their asses as your are saying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_of_error

Can you admit, yes or no, that Research 2000 is the eighth most accurate pollster out of 32 polls?
Can you admit, yes or no, that Research 2000 was relatively accurate in their final poll predicting the Brown victory?
Can you admit, yes or no, that after reading the above link, that "margin of error" is actually a regular statistical value that is calculated mathematically for ALL polls?
Can you admit, yes or no, that statistics is purposely an inaccurate math because it is the math of percentages and predictions, and that no predictions are perfect, which is why they need MoE? (its kind of like how weathermen say there's a 70% chance of rain, they don't flat out say YES its going to rain or NO its not)

Oh wait, this sounds like a poll. I wonder if I should calculate a margin of error for your answers...



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User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
Research 2000 is owned by the Daily Kos

I had asked a question earlier which may have been overlooked. You assert that Research 2000 is owned by Daily Kos. I looked around (on the web) and could not find anything to support this. Could you please provide a source? Thanks.



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25 Dreadnought : I thought he was likely mistaken about this, but now I am not so sure. I tried to research the company, and am surprised that I cannot find anything
26 Aaron747 : Actually, you're onto something here. Not only are there no business records, but their contact information lists only a PO Box and their quoted poll
27 Post contains links ATTart : Interesting Video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnGSk6N0Ugg&feature=related
28 FlyMIA : Yes because dailykos is a great website???? If a republican put up a poll from fox news everyone would be saying oh thats crazy its just a fox news po
29 WestWing : Delair Ali, a University of Maryland graduate, based in Montgomery County, Maryland. (All gleaned form google).
30 tbar220 : Can you please be honest with your argument? Last I checked, Democrats are not pro-killing babies.
31 Post contains links Dreadnought : OK, here is a little more information. The data was apparently updated only last week. http://european-companies.masterseek...com/id/101966600/Researc
32 tbar220 : If they're not so serious, I bring up again, how is a "not serious" organization the eight most accurate polling service?
33 WestWing : The masterseek site you cite has viagra ads in the profile of the company. Shows how good a site masterseek is. Research 2000 may indeed be a single-
34 tbar220 : I doubt that will be addressed. I called them out on it earlier on the thread and it was ignored. I even pointed out that Research 2000 is an indepen
35 Dreadnought : Those Google ads provide you with ads which cookies on your computer, which track what kind of websites you typically go to, give an indication of wh
36 WestWing : In the Research 2000 profile on masterseek, I see the following content (emphasis added): Olney, Maryland-based polling and research firm specializin
37 Post contains links seb146 : http://www.research2000.us/about-2/ From the "About Us" page: Some of our most active media clientele include the Bergen Record, The Raleigh News &
38 DocLightning : Also perfectly good examples of how Christianity is at least as violent, prejudiced, and racist as Islam.
39 KC135TopBoom : Apparently, Mr. Ali is also DK Blogger "The Wurt" or "The Wrut", who is officially connected to the DK. What does advertisers on a web site have to d
40 Post contains links WestWing : . Bravo ! First you assert that Research 2000 is owned by Daily Kos, and when called out, you throw out another unsupported statement that Delair Ali
41 Post contains images PPVRA : Not that I like that either, but you say that as opposed to the state enslaving them to the power of the collective, like the left proposes? I feel s
42 FlyMIA : The OP said the Death Penalty is murder so I think its fair to say I can call abortion killing babies no? As usual most liberal's see one side of the
43 Post contains images KC135TopBoom : Well, WestWing (which I assume referrs to the White House, since you are also in the Washington, DC area, maybe you might even be a "Big O" staff mem
44 Dreadnought : As I said before, if you have some better sources, I'd like to see them. I have explained my reservations clearly - They claim to be based in MD, but
45 WestWing : In my posts in this thread I have done the following a. Asked for the basis for an assertion made by KC135TopBoom that Research 2000 is owned by Daily
46 Evan767 : I became incredulous when I read that: 1) 42 in 100 Republicans might want their State to secede from the Union 2) 64 in 100 Republicans might think O
47 Dreadnought : What is remarkable is an infatuation with the irrelevant and an inability to see the bigger picture. The key point in all this is that Research 2000
48 KC135TopBoom : That is the most relevent statement in this thread, so far
49 Aaron747 : If you look over the Research 2000 site, in which they claim numerous clients without a single link or secondary source, and compare it to other repu
50 Aesma : It addressed benefits, isn't the point of civil unions to get those ? Some polls by "serious pollsters" are obviously biased so it's not much of an a
51 Post contains images EA772LR :    Unfortunately polls are polls, and in many cases aren't accurate at all. Well, I'm not a Republican, though I am Conservative, I'm calling BS on
52 seb146 : But, when a group like Heritage Foundation comes out with some kind of poll, right-wingers rally around the numbers and shout down anyone that questi
53 EA772LR : Agreed, but that doesn't suddenly make the Daily Kos credible either. Possibly a bit of all above.
54 Post contains links KC135TopBoom : For those who have not looked at Research 2000, here is the web site. For someone who claims to be non-partisan, he sure writes a lot of opinions. htt
55 DeltaMD90 : Don't tell me all of you have never seen (or done) a poll where the person will just pick the answer that's against their opponent, especially when th
56 Post contains images johnboy : Interestingly enough, Rachel Maddow just flashed a screen shot of a Fox News cast using a poll showing potential Republican candidates in 2012. A Rese
57 Post contains links WestWing : DailyKos had a blog entry about this as well, which can be read here for anyone interested.
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