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Professional Sports: Who Cares?  
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5395 times:

A question frequently asked of me is what my favorite baseball, basketball, or football teams are. When I give the standard reply, and that is NONE-meaning that I do not “follow” professional sports, I am always given a strange look of pity mixed with apprehension-as though I’m some kind of outcast or oddity from another world.



Why?

What is it about professional sports that so many people are so addicted to? Why is it that whenever I go to a restaurant or bar and see a bunch of people seated around the Big Screen TV, hooting, clapping, hollering, giving “high-5’s”, and so on, when I look at them and just shake my head and walk away disinterested, they look at me as though I were the one that was behaving oddly?

What am I missing here? It has always been my opinion that professional sports are the very epitome of arrogance, waste, and utter pointlessness. Despite the amount of money involved in them through merchandising, advertising, and salaries, along with the fact that they don’t actually DO anything (they do not provide any goods or services, other than fodder for men in their 20’s through 40’s to drink beer and make asses out of themselves in a public place.).

It seems as though people that are obsessed with pro sports are suffering from some kind of identity and/or insecurity complex. Perhaps they are living in denial of something and trying to live vicariously through the sports figures. Judging from the way I’ve seen guys yelling “Run!!! Run!!! Run!!!” or whatever at the TV screen, they seem to actually believe that they will be heard. By embracing the logos of their favorite team(s) in the clothes that they wear and the bumper stickers on their cars, it gives them a group to identify with. It’s a niche. “Hey, look at me! I’m a Lakers fan….I painted their logo across the back window of my car”. Perhaps it's a simple conformity issue. As we all know, even if we don't realize or admit, the good ol' USA-despite it's claims to be full of unique individuals, is really by and large comprised of blind conformists. I guess most people fear being labelled an outcast or 'wierdo' by not being into sports, so they get into it simply 'because everybody else is'.

Try telling a Dallas Cowboys fan that you think the Cowboys are a bad team, or that you don’t like them. They take it very personally. I’ve seen actual fistfights come out of such comments. Why? Does your diehard Yankees fan actually believe that because you are rooting for them, that that will make them win? Do you think that the Dodgers’ general manager actually cares that you wear a Dodgers jacket that you bought for $49.95 at your local sporting goods store?

I couldn’t care less about who wins the World Series or the Super Bowl.

I couldn’t even tell you who won last year, or for that matter, who PLAYED last year.

Yet as far as I know, life is just fine for me. Armageddon hasn’t come because I missed watching the Playoffs.

So what am I missing? What’s the big deal?

Somebody please enlighten me.


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User currently offlineMcringring From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5363 times:

For one, it gives people things to do other than wallow in self-pity.

User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5344 times:

I think the Yanks and Mets won last night, for those who are interested.


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User currently offlineDragogoalie From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 1220 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5337 times:

Sports are an awesome thing. I don't really get into watching them as much as most people do. I enjoy playing them. Only sport I like watching is hockey. Because hockey is my life. I've ben playing it since I was little. And hopefully will keep playing it a long time from now.

Why? Does your diehard Yankees fan actually believe that because you are rooting for them, that that will make them win?

Actually...from my experiences...when there are a lot of people at my hockey games cheering for our team, we would always get really pumped up and most of the time win. There is nothing in my opinion that compares to walking out of the locker room to see a whole bunch of people who are there to see you play. Though I do agree that there is much more money involved with pro sports than there should be, there are quite a few people who if they got there, would'nt let that bother them (or at least I wouldent). I wonder what it is that makes us like one sport but not like another. My first thought would be family...and how you were brought up, but my dad likes football and basketball, but I dont really like either. Kinda wierd...oh well. To each his own.

--dragogoalie-#88--



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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5331 times:

I'm not particularly interested in sports myself. While there are other possibilities, my guess is that most sports fanatics are that way because it allows them to sound authoritative when expressing their opinions.


"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5316 times:

To be interested in sports and watch it, is very old. Already the old Greeks had games with many spectators. The Romans had a saying: "Give the people bred and games". This means when they have enough to eat and games to watch then they are satisfied.

User currently offlineUAL Bagsmasher From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2148 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5304 times:

Matt, for once I totally agree with everything you've said. Smile

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5299 times:

Nowhere in the USA is there a more unique place than a ballpark or stadium.

The comaradirie(sp?) that you feel with 80,000 other people is something else. It's a chance to put your jobs on the back burner and act like a kid again.

Who wouldn't want to be the player on the field? We all dreamed of playing in Yankee Stadium in game 7 of the World Series, or throwing the winning touchdown pass in the Super Bowl. But if you can't be that prson on the field, why not be that person in the stands?



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User currently offlineRussianplnelvr From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5295 times:

I'm not into sports. I understand what Matt means about going to a bar and seeing all these sports fans look at you like your abnormal. I don't have anything against sports, it just isn't my bag. But there are a few things I don't understand.

1. Why are the (lakers, clippers, broncos, rangers) your favorite team? What attracts you to a team? What makes them special? Is it the whole " I live in Boston (or any other city) so therefore I am obligated to root for the Red Sox" thing or is there more to it than that.

2. Why do fans act like they are on the team? Example: The Raiders win a game and one fan asks another fan who won and the answer is "We did!"



User currently offlineHartsfieldboy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5289 times:

Matt D- People could say the same thing about you and ariplanes: "What a waste of time to be interested in something that just carries people, what's fun about that? At least sports are meant ot be entertaining, airliners aern't."

Don't take this personally, but this is a pointless disscussion. You can use your arguement for any type of hobby on the planet: Why would anyone waste time with anything that doesn't make you money and isn't productive?

If you want to talk about people taking something personally, just read any topic that even just MENTIONS both Airbus and Boeing. The page views for those kind of topics are the highest in the General Aviation forum. It's just as ridicuous as someone saying their team sucks and they take it personally.

For the record, I'm just a casual sports fan, and I try to follow the standings and my teams. Go Braves, Falcons, Hawks, Thrashers and Yellow Jackets!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4634 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5280 times:

I like watching some sports for fun (hockey mostly) but I don't get too into it.

Alot of people takes sports way too seriously, especially soccer fans. I mean a player makes a mistake and gets shot because of it? Give me a break, it's just a GAME.

Salaries are ridculous too, especially baseball players. Scratch your balls half your life and get paid millions. While others who risk their lives everyday for others get paid peanuts. There's something not right with that.



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User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5278 times:

I like basketball and most of Lithuanians likes it, it's like cult here (we have three bronzes in a row from Barcelona, Atlanta and Sydney, so, we won bronze in every olympics since independence and if you count that there are only 3 million Lithuanians this is amazing. We also lost to dream team only by 2 points in Sydney semi-finals). So, this is why I like basketball:
1.It is fun to watch and support your team
2.It is good because you always have something to talk about even with completely unknown person
3.It is something to bright up a life, like most of hobbies are


User currently offlineHartsfieldboy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5273 times:

Russianplnelvr- Why do I like all the Atlanta teams? It's just local pride. I love Atlanta and all the things about it (except the suburbs, but I won't go there), and I want the ATL to be a succesful city (which it is), so I love our sports teams as well.

And I forogt one other team: the Brazilian soccer team!!


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40029 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5274 times:

I agree Matt.
It is such an artificial event. People are shallow and don't want to waste time finding something that is of interest to them because they don't want to seem like an outcast. It's rather sad.
When I go in to a bar or even the break room and I am looking for a newspaper, it's always a woman that stereotypes me and says, "Are you looking for the sports section?"
They are almost shocked when I say, "No I want the FrontPage, local news or business sections."

Our company has a section at the new PacBell Park. That's where the San Francisco Giants play. I've been invited to just about every game the company has a 'social' at the game. I've never gone to a single game.
It's interesting how suddenly everyone in the office suddenly becomes Giants fans when there are free tickets from the company. People show up to work in Orange & Black to show their support.

Getting excited over athletes is like getting excited over Bill Gates or Gordon Bethune. It's just a business!
Sports are another way for people to spend money, buy a big screen TV and feed the predatory capitalist machine..... Pissed (Never mind, I will not use this thread to push my leftist agenda)  Laugh out loud


About those Dallas Cowboys.
I have never seen a more ruthless barbaric group of fans ever. Did you know a man accidentally killed his 3-year-old son by picking him up and throwing him against the wall during a Cowboys game? He said he was crying too much during the game.
I remember flying Continental and having a layover in Houston. I flirting with this lady at the bar and we were having a good conversation. She said that her and her boyfriend at the time who was from New York was in Dallas on a business trip. He went to a sports bar to watch the game and have a few drinks. Well he wore a NY Giants cap and was routing for the giants. She told me they beat him up so bad that he needed 12 stitches.
I knew a guy who had his car set on fire because he had a 49ers bumper sticker on his Chevy while visiting Dallas.

I can also remember school kids getting beat up and even killed over shoes and jackets of pro sports teams.

My goodness, it's just a f**king game!



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User currently offlineMcringring From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5259 times:

1. Why are the (lakers, clippers, broncos, rangers) your favorite team? What attracts you to a team? What makes them special? Is it the whole " I live in Boston (or any other city) so therefore I am obligated to root for the Red Sox" thing or is there more to it than that.

The home team is the one you grow up with. You see them the most because of tv contracts. You hear about them on the radio and on the news the most because they're local. You see people around you wearing their jerseys, hats, etc. Most likely it's your parents' (father's) favorite team, too. It gives you a sense of identity - kind of like church, but without all the religious bs. A source or pride... the list goes on... It's just natural to root for the home team.

But there are also certain players that can attract you to another team. I'm sure the Lakers are the "in" team now among young bandwagon fans because they have Kobe and Shaq. It used to be Jordan or Barkley that the kids followed around. Same with McGwire a few years ago in baseball. The all-american white home-run record holder. What a story... everyone loves him... In 5 years it will be another team. But this is usually in addition to the home team. For example, my favorite baseball team is the Mets, but I also like the Cubs because Mark Grace was my favorite player growing up. Even though he hasn't been on the Cubs in years, I still like the team. (Just not as much as I used to)


2. Why do fans act like they are on the team? Example: The Raiders win a game and one fan asks another fan who won and the answer is "We did!"


This is just plain dumb. I can't stand people who do this.


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5248 times:

Superfly-

>>I can also remember school kids getting beat up and even killed over shoes and jackets of pro sports teams.<<

This had less to do with sports and more with gangs killing over Raiders jackets in the early '90s.







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User currently offlineRussianplnelvr From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5255 times:

Mcringring,
Thanks for clearing that up for me!


User currently offlineBCal DC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 723 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5238 times:

I have to say, the first thing that struck me when I read your post was..... hellooooo!? What do you think you're doing on a web forum posting a topic like this in a forum dedicated to a hobby - aviation. As Hartsfieldboy said... you could say that about anything in life. I'm sure my buddies on the Aston Villa Football Club discussion forum aren't discussing a topic called "Aviation: Who cares?" cos that would be pointless.

Fans of professional sports probably think that being into aeroplanes and spending hours on a forum discussing utter bollocks is sad, and a waste of time.
You say you couldn't care less who wins the super bowl or whatever... they probably don't give two hoots whether Airbus or Boeing win that £10bn order from British Airways and the like. People think a lot of people take sports too seriously. Just take a look at some of the whining and whinging and pointless arguments that have carried on here over the last couple of weeks, from members taking this supposedly fun discussion forum waaaay too seriously.

Variety is the spice of life. Enjoy the fact that the world is a huge mix of people with different interests and ideas from your own.


User currently offlineMcringring From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5243 times:

People are shallow and don't want to waste time finding something that is of interest to them because they don't want to seem like an outcast.

I don't get it...

So it's impossible for someone to be genuinely interested in sports? Everyone who watches or likes sports is too lazy to find something worthy of Superfly's approval as an interest? Only people who don't care for sports are truly individual and not lazy?

Anyway, care to enlighten us with some of your "worthwhile" interests? (there I go again... lazy sports fan doesn't want to find anything on his own...) Until then, I'll be reading the sports pages AND the rest of the paper.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40029 posts, RR: 74
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5230 times:

Mcringring:
Would you feel better if I had said 'some people'?
Please don't take this so personal.
I know that there are some diehard fans that are true fans.
And no, it dosen't have to have my approval.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5237 times:
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I don't know about the USA but, thank god football is popular in the UK and europe, othewise we'd have bored 15 year old kids terrorising neighbourhoods and committing petty crime cos they got nothing to do.

Arsenal@LHR



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40029 posts, RR: 74
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

BTW, the only team the matters is DA BEARS ! ! !  Laugh out loud


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User currently offlineMcringring From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5224 times:

"Some people" would have been more appropriate, but it's best to avoid generalizations altogether, would you not say?

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this...

OK

Then you really shouldn't call people's interests "sad." If you'd like to share some of your interests, I will gladly pass judgement on them without understanding why you like them.


Anyway, I can't stand the Cowboys, either. But Da Bears??? I lost all respect for that team after the Super Bowl Shuffle!


Arsenal@LHR: And instead you've got 30 year old men terrorizing other fans and players and committing serious crimes in the stadium. Big grin


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40029 posts, RR: 74
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5218 times:

Mcringring:
The Bears remark was to be a joke.
I lost respect for the Bears after that too.



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5205 times:

The ONLY thing good about the Bears was the Super Bowl Shuffle.

25 Bernard Shakey : Airplanes and sports. The most fun I can have with my pants on. If I'm not hurting you doing it, don't worry about my hobbies. The Cleveland Browns wi
26 Post contains images Superfly : Da Bills rule! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
27 Mcringring : If there was a smiley with the word 'joke' flying over Superfly's head, I'd insert it here.
28 Post contains images Superfly : He, what's wrong with the Bills?
29 Mcringring : The only good thing about the Bills is Scott Norwood.
30 Transactoid : Wow, I actually with Matt D for once. Who cares who wins. It makes no difference in my life. Racing in the worst...a bunch of cars just driving around
31 JetService : I've never met anyone that pretends to be a sports fans so they aren't viewed as an outcast. Either people like pro sports or they don't (just like an
32 Matt D : As I put on my asbestos jacket, let me say that the only sports event that would be of any interest to me would be the quadrapalegic 400 yard dash....
33 BH346 : Sports are fine and fun to watch once in a while, but I don't get some of these die-hard sports freaks who bring their hobby too far and make it their
34 Sccutler : Matt- you are quite right. And no self-respecting Dallasite likes the Cowboys any more. With that all said- Go Mavs!
35 Arsenal@LHR : LOL! Mcringing, i see the funny side but seriously, that's a myth that soccer fans are violent and go to games cause fights. Some do, but it's very ra
36 Post contains images NWA : I love sports. its how awsome the people who play are, there the best in the world. I love hockey, football, and boxing. I like the steelers because t
37 Vafi88 : Sports are one of the first entertainment that was made. From Ancient greece where they played ancient games that have evolved into the present ones.
38 Sophiemaltese : I could care less about them myself....each to his own.
39 Continental : Pro Sports rule! It's awesome to watch them! Sports have always been fun to watch, and you get attached to a team after a while. NOW IF YOU EXCUSE ME,
40 NKP S2 : I couldn't agree with you more MattD. I can't possibly care less about them, except for an occasional baseball game ( useta' to be a big baseball fan
41 Yyz717 : Actually, I also hate professional sports. Hockey? Football? Baseball? Big yawn here. Golf on TV? I'd rather watch paint dry. I realize I'm in a small
42 Seb146 : I don't care much for pro basketball but I feel obligated to follow the Blazers since I live in the Portland area. When I was in high school, I was ne
43 Mirrodie : I am in 100% agreement with the poster. I love playing soocer and I am so glad the World CUp comes around every 4 years and not more. I mean, I just d
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