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Mayor Goodman Snubs Obama  
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

I really hope I run into this man this winter. I want to shake his hand.

http://www.ktnv.com/global/story.asp?s=11996202

Man a state that was key in Obama's win has totally turned their backs on him after one year and after not one but two very careless remarks. As goodman said we need leadership. Something Obama doesn't seem to have.

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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1795 times:

Mayor Oscar Goodman is a flake (yes you sir), The president invited him to an event he should accept, not put his bitterness above his country, he could have discussed this like adults but he has taken a childish resolve. Goodman lacks leadership. A real patriot does not refuse a meeting with the president no matter what the party or feeling he has. If you think this is right you have put pettiness and partisanship above citizenship.


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User currently onlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1635 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Thread starter):
I really hope I run into this man this winter. I want to shake his hand.

http://www.ktnv.com/global/story.asp?s=11996202

Man a state that was key in Obama's win has totally turned their backs on him after one year and after not one but two very careless remarks. As goodman said we need leadership. Something Obama doesn't seem to have.

 

Glad he didn't. The man has a spine!

 

[Edited 2010-02-17 10:59:02]


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 1):
Mayor Oscar Goodman is a flake (yes you sir), The president invited him to an event he should accept, not put his bitterness above his country, he could have discussed this like adults but he has taken a childish resolve. Goodman lacks leadership. A real patriot does not refuse a meeting with the president no matter what the party or feeling he has. If you think this is right you have put pettiness and partisanship above citizenship.

To the contrary, Mayor Goodman has been acting much more presidential than Obama has since he took office. You earn respect, it's not automatically given to you because you duped a part of the country to vote for you. A part of the country that has since turned on him. Obama is not in touch with the working people of Nevada or for any state for that matter. If he was he wouldn't have made the idiotic remarks he did. Check the polls buddy the country has had it with the slick speaking elitist who has no idea how to lead. Only how to blame and say "I inherited this mess" Well that time has gone and we need a president. Not a teleprompter reader. Again Bravo Mayor Goodman. May your actions inspire more to speak out against this.

[Edited 2010-02-17 10:59:05]

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 1):
The president invited him to an event he should accept...

I disagree. If the President invited me to dinner, I should have the right to decline as I see fit. And I know I will!



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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 3):
To the contrary, Mayor Goodman has been acting much more presidential than Obama has since he took office. You earn respect, it's not automatically given to you because you duped a part of the country to vote for you. A part of the country that has since turned on him. Obama is not in touch with the working people of Nevada or for any state for that matter. If he was he wouldn't have made the idiotic remarks he did. Check the polls buddy the country has had it with the slick speaking elitist who has no idea how to lead. Only how to blame and say "I inherited this mess" Well that time has gone and we need a president. Not a teleprompter reader. Again Bravo Mayor Goodman. May your actions inspire more to speak out against this.

Unless the national leader is a dictator or someone who forced his way into office, some respect is owed weather it's Obama or Bush who invites you to talk with him, this incident could have been discussed like gentleman, but the mayor chooses to grandstand.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5244 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1771 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Thread starter):
Man a state that was key in Obama's win has totally turned their backs on him after one year and after not one but two very careless remarks.

The Mayor of Las Vegas equals the whole state of Nevada? Nice try...



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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1765 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
I disagree. If the President invited me to dinner, I should have the right to decline as I see fit. And I know I will!

No, Im talking meeting with the president, face to face, a meeting, not a dinner or White House dinner.



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User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1763 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 6):
The Mayor of Las Vegas equals the whole state of Nevada? Nice try...

The only place in Nevada where Obama picked up significant votes was Las Vegas.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5244 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1745 times:

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 8):
The only place in Nevada where Obama picked up significant votes was Las Vegas.

Again, the Mayor's decision to "snub" Obama is in what way indicative of the fact that the entire state has turned it's back on the President?



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1740 times:

That's Oscar being Oscar. If you were the mayor of a city that the President of the United States has disparaged on several occasions, would you want to be anywhere near that person? Mayor Goodgin is the "ambassador" for Las Vegas as a whole, even though the bulk of the casinos lie outside of Las Vegas city limits.

Besides, does Obama really want to associate with a guy that used to defend gangsters?    True story. Some of his most well-known clients were Meyer Lansky, Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal, and Anthony "Tony The Ant" Spilotro. Rosenthal and Spilotro were the inspirations for Sam "Ace" Rothstein and Nicky Santoro in the book and movie "Casino" (Oscar Goodman portrayed himself in that movie.).

Maybe Oscar and Obama need to sit down and hash things out over a bottle of Bombay Sapphire......   

Quoting NIKV69 (Thread starter):
I really hope I run into this man this winter. I want to shake his hand.

If you're near a bar, buy him a drink......

Quoting OA412 (Reply 6):
The Mayor of Las Vegas equals the whole state of Nevada? Nice try...

Las Vegas is the largest city in Nevada, with a population of 558,383. That's not even including the entire Metro Area, which has a population of over 1.8 million, which is well over half of the state's population. While over 1.3 million residents of the Las Vegas were not able to vote for him since they did not live within the City Of Las Vegas, he is the elected official most identified with Las Vegas. When he was reelected to his final term in 2007, he garnered 83.69% of the votes even with there being five other candidates seeking to unseat him. On the other hand, Rory Reid, who is the Chairman of the Clark County Board of Commissioners (And is running for Governor next year.) is virtually unknown outside of Nevada. This is even with the fact that his father is Sen. Harry Reid.

[Edited 2010-02-17 11:43:27]

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1740 times:

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 7):
No, Im talking meeting with the president, face to face, a meeting, not a dinner or White House dinner.

Still, no. Dinner or no dinner...any event (as you worded it), no.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1741 times:

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 5):
Unless the national leader is a dictator or someone who forced his way into office, some respect is owed weather it's Obama or Bush who invites you to talk with him, this incident could have been discussed like gentleman, but the mayor chooses to grandstand

Maybe if Obama said this once, but after Goodman let his frustration be known the first time Obama made this stupid statement he should have learned. Yet he said it again. It shows he has an axe to grind and it will hurt him badly.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 6):
The Mayor of Las Vegas equals the whole state of Nevada? Nice try...

No but we can discuss this after Reid is shown the door and in 2012 when I think you will see how Nevada as a whole thinks.

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 8):
The only place in Nevada where Obama picked up significant votes was Las Vegas.

Of course, the left is just in denial that yet another state has abandoned Obama. It has to hurt. So cut them some slack.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 9):
Again, the Mayor's decision to "snub" Obama is in what way indicative of the fact that the entire state has turned it's back on the President?

Again Reid is getting destroyed in the polls by two nobodies and Sue Lowden but it's ok we can wait till the smoke clears to discuss how Obama destroyed himself with his stupid, pandering rhetoric that cost people their jobs.


User currently offlineMoltenRock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1725 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 10):
If you're near a bar, buy him a drink......

I had never heard of the guy until the news carried a story of him telling a 3rd or 4th grade class when asked what are his hobbies, that "he enjoys a Bombay Sapphire". A real modern WC Fields.

As Singapore is opening its first big casino complex I've heard his name on a few occasions. He's openly praised the canings in Singapore back in America saying that school kids should be caned for acting up when kids are never caned in Singapore. Cutting off the thumbs of vandals on live TV. Beheadings, you name it.

I think Goodman is just mad still that Obama wouldn't give him the $55 million he sought from them to build a Mobster Museum in the stimulus bill. He sounds like a gaffe machine larger than Biden by a factor of 10 or 20.


User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5244 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1726 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
Of course, the left is just in denial that yet another state has abandoned Obama.

I'll ask again. Where is your proof that Obama has been abandoned by the state of Nevada?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
Again Reid is getting destroyed in the polls by two nobodies and Sue Lowden but it's ok we can wait till the smoke clears to discuss how Obama destroyed himself with his stupid, pandering rhetoric that cost people their jobs.

Seems to me that unemployment is beginning to fall and that new jobs are in the process of being created. I also seem to recall that the recession that resulted in the loss of jobs also began under Bush's watch. But hey, when did you ever let facts get in the way of your desire to see the Democratic Party destroyed so that we can become a single-party state?
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...cing-unemployment-survey-says.html



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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1712 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 10):
Maybe Oscar and Obama need to sit down and hash things out over a bottle of Bombay Sapphire

My thought exactly.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
It shows he has an axe to grind and it will hurt him badly.

Maybe in his case an axe collection   



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6606 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1708 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
Again Reid is getting destroyed in the polls by two nobodies and Sue Lowden but it's ok we can wait till the smoke clears to discuss how Obama destroyed himself with his stupid, pandering rhetoric that cost people their jobs

What he said wasn't pandering, it was telling the truth. It's a truth that maybe the people of Vegas don't want to hear, but such is life. The sad reality is that much of Vegas' economy is based on people spending money they really don't have, hence why Vegas has taken such a hard hit.

It's funny how conservatives are always preaching personal responsibility, but when the President says the same thing they get all outraged.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8838 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1693 times:

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 1):
Mayor Oscar Goodman is a flake (yes you sir), The president invited him to an event he should accept, not put his bitterness above his country, he could have discussed this like adults but he has taken a childish resolve. Goodman lacks leadership. A real patriot does not refuse a meeting with the president no matter what the party or feeling he has. If you think this is right you have put pettiness and partisanship above citizenship.
Quoting 2707200X (Reply 5):
Unless the national leader is a dictator or someone who forced his way into office, some respect is owed weather it's Obama or Bush who invites you to talk with him, this incident could have been discussed like gentleman, but the mayor chooses to grandstand.

Goodman forgave Obama the first time the President went after Las Vegas last year, and went to his function. If Obama does it again, why should he be forgiven? Obama had his warning.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1692 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 14):
'll ask again. Where is your proof that Obama has been abandoned by the state of Nevada?

Ahh the good ol "where is your proof" talking point. It's ok, Obama hasn't been abandoned by Nevada. They love him. We will see how much they love him this November. Keep the wool over those eye buddy. It's a good look.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 14):
Seems to me that unemployment is beginning to fall and that new jobs are in the process of being created. I also seem to recall that the recession that resulted in the loss of jobs also began under Bush's watch. But hey, when did you ever let facts get in the way of your desire to see the Democratic Party destroyed so that we can become a single-party state?

Good lord are you serious? People in Nevada are really hurting. This is what you and Obama fail to even see. Yet you still cling to the "blame Bush" rhetoric. Keep it up. It's doing wonders for you.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 16):
What he said wasn't pandering, it was telling the truth. It's a truth that maybe the people of Vegas don't want to hear, but such is life. The sad reality is that much of Vegas' economy is based on people spending money they really don't have, hence why Vegas has taken such a hard hit.

This is such a load, so know every person that vacations in LV is living beyond their means. It's this elitist propaganda that is going to hurt Obama and has already lost him the state of NV. Keep up the good work.


User currently offlineMoltenRock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1681 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 18):
Good lord are you serious? People in Nevada are really hurting.

And this makes Nevada unique how? You must have been in support of Goodman's $250 million city hall building then to help construction workers correct?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 18):
This is such a load, so know every person that vacations in LV is living beyond their means. It's this elitist propaganda that is going to hurt Obama and has already lost him the state of NV. Keep up the good work.

This line of attack against Obama is bunk. The entire Las Vegas faux rage is because Obama didn't want any more banks and other institutions bailed out with billions of US taxpayers money to be living large in Vegas as was happening in 2008 and early 2009. Some corporations made bone headed decisions to hold their annual events at 5 star resorts running up tens of thousands of dollars in room service, gambling, and other nonsense when they couldn't pay their bills and needed bailing out. AIG I'm looking at you.

Stop twisting this logic against this type of behavior Obama was against to common men and women. It's dishonest.


User currently offlineken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8225 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1668 times:

Let's see. Obama tells people not to blow their money in Las Vegas. Might actually be good advice for people who aren't wealthy - especially during tough economic times.

Sure Goodman was upset. Casinos took a hit. Probably the same with whorehouses.

As far as snubbing Obama goes. There has traditionally been the appearance of getting along in politics. Especially n the lower ranks (like mayors) who will be wanting federal funding of projects over the next 3 to 7 years.

In that light Goodman looks to be about as bright as a 15 watt light bulb.


User currently offlineea772lr From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1659 times:

Quoting MoltenRock (Reply 19):
The entire Las Vegas faux rage is because Obama didn't want any more banks and other institutions bailed out with billions of US taxpayers money to be living large in Vegas as was happening in 2008 and early 2009.

The problem is, Obama is giving us a speech on fiscal responsibility. That's like Hitler giving a speech on Human Rights. The context of what Obama said is correct, but singling out a city, which he'd already gaffed against before, was another mistake. He should have just said what he said minus Las Vegas. However, again, being fiscally responsible means nothing coming from Obama. I side with the mayor on this only in so much as I personally have no respect for Obama and would always turn down an invitation from him, or his White House.



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User currently offlinecws818 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1176 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1652 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 3):
You earn respect, it's not automatically given to you because you duped a part of the country to vote for you.

Duped? Try again, people chose to vote for Obama, whether or not you agree with how they voted. Nobody was tricked.



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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3083 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1640 times:

OA412, as a pround resident of the State of Nevada, I respectfully suggest you take a seat. Obama, Reid, and Dem's in general here are so far down in the shitter here, it's pathetic. I live in Washoe County, which gave it's votes to Obama back in 2008. He has been completely abandoned here in addition to Clark County. Given that Clark and Wahshoe have abandoned him, and they make up an absolute majority of states population, how can you be in such denial? Democrats have lost Nevada, accept it.


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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6606 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1606 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 18):
This is such a load, so know every person that vacations in LV is living beyond their means.

Every person? No. But the majority? Yes. It has nothing to do personally with LV, but the fact that a majority of American's live beyond their means.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 18):
It's this elitist propaganda that is going to hurt Obama and has already lost him the state of NV. Keep up the good work.

And if conservatives have their way and gut the government, LV is going to be hurting a whole lot more as even more people won't be able to afford it as they grapple with having no retirement money and struggle to pay for healthcare, energy, etc.


25 tbar220 : Good point. It was the truth, and as much as people don't want to hear it, its true. It's actually a nice refreshing message to hear in contrast to o
26 Dreadnought : He was right on point - but don't pick on a tourist town that already has 13+% unemployment and is already seeing a sharp drop in business. He DID!!!
27 WarRI1 : You saved me from saying something similar. I guess it is good idea to gamble away your childrens college money. The hypocrisy on here is sometimes b
28 Dreadnought : (sigh) as has been repeated here many times, he was right on message but wrong on execution.
29 JakeOrion : The point I agree with of him being a "flake" is he goes on about his reasoning of why he declined the invitation. He also did it in such a tone wher
30 vikkyvik : He's not saying what you can or can't do with your money. He's suggesting what you may not want to do. And I'd say he's quite correct. With that said
31 cws818 : So you, a small business owner, would turn down an invitation from the White House to get ideas from small business owners just because Obama is the
32 2707200X : ea777lr: Im calling you out on this one. You just compared Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler who exterminated millions of people, thats insane and un-Amer
33 NIKV69 : Yea nothing like that good ol Bill Ayers planting bombs.
34 2707200X : He's a ground nut, what does he have to do with anything good or constructive, he's a s***, like Lyndon LaRouche or Tom Tancredo. Factcheck has dispr
35 Dreadnought : You believe FactCheck? They are intimately tied with both Ayers and Obama - they were all owned/employed by the same foundation. They are hardly impa
36 Post contains images Mudboy : Damn!! You almost sounded like a politician I am not with the right wing, but I got the point he was making. I believe you are reaching a little on t
37 2707200X : I was talking about the outrageous rhetoric about Obama on the Hitler comparison and all the racist elements and other totally non factual fluff. Not
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