Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 28 Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2850 times:
Now it's not just Holocaust denial or his deputies saying it - Mr. Ahmedinejad has declared himself a full-fledged conspiracy theorist with out and out 9/11 denial. What will the Obama administration's response be??
"September 11 was a big lie and a pretext for the war on terror and a prelude to invading Afghanistan," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by state TV. He called the attacks a "complicated intelligence scenario and act."
The Iranian president has questioned the official U.S. version of the Sept. 11 attacks before, but this is the first time he ventured to label it a "big lie."
A big lie supported by mountains of data analysis by some of the world's top experts in the fields of structural engineering...care to explain that sir?
At the time, he also told Iranian state TV the attacks were "a result of mismanaging and inhumane managing of the world by the U.S," and that Washington was using Sept. 11 as an excuse to attack others.
Deflecting attention from the poor management of your own country, yet again. Someone polish off the hypocrisy award for this guy.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11708 posts, RR: 52 Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2841 times:
Ahmedinejad, like is wanna be side kick Charviz is an idiot.
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2802 times:
futurepilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2018 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2739 times:
I hope the 9/11 "truthers" can finally see the kind of morons that adhere to the same conspiracy that they believe. Congrats truthers, your cause is now no better than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
"The brave don't live forever, but the cautious don't live at all."
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7442 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2730 times:
Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 3): Au contraire, he knows exactly what he is doing.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19700 posts, RR: 56 Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2544 times:
Quoting TransIsland (Reply 5): Not defending Amanutcasejidad, but... Iraq anyone?
There is a big difference between saying that the US government used 9/11 as justification for invading Iraq, and saying that the US government caused 9/11 in order to justify invading Iraq.
-Mir
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varigb707 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1220 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2496 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter): Mr. Ahmedinejad has declared himself a full-fledged conspiracy theorist with out and out 9/11 denial
Well, this guy is idiot and so are those who listen to what he has to say. Same goes to Chavez.
There, i said that.
MoltenRock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2453 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1): Ahmedinejad, like is wanna be side kick Charviz is an idiot.
Now, now, now. Americans have no problem buying nearly 1 million barrels of petro products per day from President Chavez. That's like being critical of your drug dealer. Lots of vapidity, not much substance.
TransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2031 posts, RR: 11 Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2224 times:
Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 3): Au contraire, he knows exactly what he is doing.
Quoting CPH-R (Reply 7): In which case they missed by a few hundred miles, seeing as they ended up in Afghanistan
Silly me, I thought the U.S. went into both countries.
Quoting Mir (Reply 8): There is a big difference between saying that the US government used 9/11 as justification for invading Iraq, and saying that the US government caused 9/11 in order to justify invading Iraq
See:
Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter): At the time, he also told Iranian state TV the attacks were "a result of mismanaging and inhumane managing of the world by the U.S," and that Washington was using Sept. 11 as an excuse to attack others
While his convoluted babble may suggest that the U.S. attacked itself, which would be rubbish, he does not explicitly say so. He is in his latest statement, however, basically denying Al Qaeda's responsibility.
In this older statement (quote above), however, he is almost justifying 9/11 as a legitimate reaction of non-American groups who oppose the Americans' "inhumane managing of the world." And then simply concludes that the U.S., instead of analyzing the events and improving their "inhumane managing of the world," used it as a pretext to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
Of course, Amanutcasejidad cannot be taken seriously overall, but, accidentally, with Iraq he's not that far off.
I'm an aviation expert. I have Sky Juice for breakfast.
CaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1130 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2212 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1): ahmedinejad, like is wanna be side kick Charviz is an idiot.
I never take anything seriously from Ahmendinejad...he's just a puppet of the Mullahs. They are the ones who are really in control..he's bassically their PR guy...simple as that.
TransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2031 posts, RR: 11 Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2201 times:
Quoting RJ111 (Reply 14): They made up their own excuse for Iraq.
While never explicitly linking Iraq to 9/11, and adding the whole WMD lie, the US gov't implicitly linked Saddam to Bin Laden and encouraged the media to create a very popular belief in this connection.
I'm an aviation expert. I have Sky Juice for breakfast.
By and large, the US can just be thankful that critics like friend Ahmad make such a mess out of making criticism. Laughing at Ahmad might leave your thinking you are perfect and hubris was supposed to go out of style in Jan 2009 was it not?
But you never have come to terms with some of your most powerful internal critics and I do not mean the conspiracy nuts.
In any event, with a fair slab of the US population apparently following Lord Monckton in his "UN plot to rule America via a commie takeover", it is no time to deride conspiracy theorists from outside until the home stables are cleansed.
danfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1780 posts, RR: 9 Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2129 times:
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11708 posts, RR: 52 Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2114 times:
Quoting MoltenRock (Reply 11): Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
Ahmedinejad, like is wanna be side kick Charviz is an idiot.
Now, now, now. Americans have no problem buying nearly 1 million barrels of petro products per day from President Chavez.
I would push my out of gas Ford F-150 gas station past a Citgo station (Citgo is own by Charviz) rather than buy gas there.
Quoting TransIsland (Reply 13): He is in his latest statement, however, basically denying Al Qaeda's responsibility.
Even though al Qeada did publicly claim responsibility.
Quoting Baroque (Reply 17): In any event, with a fair slab of the US population apparently following Lord Monckton in his "UN plot to rule America via a commie takeover", it is no time to deride conspiracy theorists from outside until the home stables are cleansed.
As I understand it, Lord Monckton is also very popular among the British and former British subjects, too.
LMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2010 times:
Quoting MoltenRock (Reply 11): Now, now, now. Americans have no problem buying nearly 1 million barrels of petro products per day from President Chavez.
Ironically that makes him more dependant on us than we are of him. There are around 13000 Citgo stations in the US; most of the Venezuela's tanker fleet is optimized for the short trip across the Gulf of Mexico. The type of crude pumped out of the ground there is refined in special refineries in Texas and Louisiana.
Quoting Baroque (Reply 17): In any event, with a fair slab of the US population apparently following Lord Monckton in his "UN plot to rule America via a commie takeover",
What's your definition of "fair slab" twenty percent, thirty percent, ninety percent? Ask most Americans if they know who the guy is and they probably will say they never heard of him.
Baroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 60 Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1812 times:
Quoting LMP737 (Reply 20): Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
In any event, with a fair slab of the US population apparently following Lord Monckton in his "UN plot to rule America via a commie takeover",
What's your definition of "fair slab" twenty percent, thirty percent, ninety percent? Ask most Americans if they know who the guy is and they probably will say they never heard of him.
Hopefully he has low recognition, but of those who have heard of him, it is probably around 20%. The real laugh is that the organization he accused of wanting to mastermind the takeover is said to have about 8 staff. Oh well, it would not take much skill to rule the world would it?
LMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1656 times:
Quoting Baroque (Reply 22): Hopefully he has low recognition, but of those who have heard of him, it is probably around 20%. The real laugh is that the organization he accused of wanting to mastermind the takeover is said to have about 8 staff. Oh well, it would not take much skill to rule the world would it?
To be honest I had to look up who he was. When I did and read some of the stuff he has said I came to the conclusion that he ate lead paint chips as a child. And possibly as an adult.
Baroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 60 Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1612 times:
Quoting LMP737 (Reply 23): To be honest I had to look up who he was. When I did and read some of the stuff he has said I came to the conclusion that he ate lead paint chips as a child. And possibly as an adult.
Made my night - well early morning as I wait for some data to go through to a client. We had a rather large dose of him here a couple of weeks ago. Now we have Richard Dawkins as a contrast. And what a contrast.
mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9182 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1617 times:
Quoting Baroque (Reply 17): In any event, with a fair slab of the US population apparently following Lord Monckton in his "UN plot to rule America via a commie takeover", it is no time to deride conspiracy theorists from outside until the home stables are cleansed.
I think I can multitask and deride both outsiders and those inside the country at the same time, thank you very much.
"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
25 planespotting: He's actually saying that the US government made up 9/11 in order to justify invading Iraq. Which means he's even more coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs than o
26 Baroque: Possibly about the only thing they did NOT make up re Iraq??? Wonder why he does not pursue the bleeding obvious, the things they DID make up? It is
27 Baroque: Oh dear, now he is peddling lines that do have a bit of credibility. I just knew we could not rely on his to be permanently off beam. http://news.bbc.
28 CPH-R: Rubbish. The Taliban and Al Qaeda has/had nothing to do with the indigneous Afghan resistance fighters, that were supported by the US (via the CIA-IS
29 Baroque: And of course the CIA left signed statements all over the place saying exactly who they had supported. Equally "of course" the words to which you tak
30 National757: They'll send Joe Biden to Iran and he will then show up late to dinner Now that's change I can believe in![Edited 2010-03-10 23:37:04]
31 mayor: Hardly damning testimony or hard hitting statements, are they? I could use these same statements about anything, to further what I'm trying to say, a
32 Baroque: A bit stronger than the evidence about Ahmad wanting nuclear bombs then?
33 mayor: Do you think he doesn't or isn't working on them?
34 Baroque: Do you think no US funds went to Arab Mujahudeen?
35 mayor: I'm not saying that. Funds probably did flow in that direction. However the three statements I posted were trying to connect that aid with the curren
36 Baroque: Well Various Wikis Many of the mujahideen who later joined the Taliban fought alongside Afghan warlord Mohammad Nabi Mohammadi's Harkat i Inqilabi gr
37 LMP737: Glad you liked it. Like I said though, most Americans probably have never heard of the guy. Those that that I have most I would venture to say write
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Made my night - well early morning as I wait for some data to go through to a client. We had a rather large dose of him here a couple of weeks ago. Now we have Richard Dawkins as a contrast. And what a contrast.
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