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Least Visited Capital City Within Country/State  
User currently offlineBNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 400 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4474 times:

Which country's capital city has been visited by the smallest percentage of that country's adult population? A few possibilites which are all "new" capitals, geographically isolated from the major cities of that country, and have 2% or less of that country's total population:

Brasilia
Abuja, Nigeria
Dodoma, Tanzania

Also, if your country's capital city is not a dominant economic/cultural city within your country, do many people consider it a priority to visit that capital city at least once in their lifetime? As an American, I would say that most Americans aspire to visit Washington, D.C. at least once.

For U.S. states, which state capital city has been visited by the smallest percentage of that state's adult population? Perhaps Juneau due to its small population and its inability to be reached by land from the rest of Alaska? Maybe there are significant percentages of residents of southern Florida, New York City, southern Nevada, southern California, etc., that have never visited their state's capital city?

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User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12947 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

I've lived in NH for almost 20 years now and have glanced at the capitol building in Concord numerous times from the highway and haven't been arsed to stop in and see it. As a school kid I was taken to the capitol building in Hartford CT. It too is visible from the interstate highway going through town.

Why is it that it seems US state capitol buildings have to have a gold dome?

Did West Germans feel the urge to go to Bonn back in the day?

Inquiring minds want to know...



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User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7827 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4434 times:

Canberra the most boring city in Australasia, I can't see why anyone would want to visit, although prostitution is legal and it's the home of the Aussie porn industry.

User currently offlineMarsciguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4427 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 1):
I've lived in NH for almost 20 years now and have glanced at the capitol building in Concord numerous times from the highway and haven't been arsed to stop in and see it. As a school kid I was taken to the capitol building in Hartford CT. It too is visible from the interstate highway going through town.

Why is it that it seems US state capitol buildings have to have a gold dome?

Did West Germans feel the urge to go to Bonn back in the day?

Inquiring minds want to know...

It may be a bit OT, but where do you live in NH? South of Concord?

Hmm, how about the administrative capital of Malaysia, Putrajaya?



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11796 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4403 times:

Quoting BNAOWB (Thread starter):
As an American, I would say that most Americans aspire to visit Washington, D.C. at least once.

Meh.... I would like to go just to say "I've been" but it is not an aspiration of mine. If I go, I go, if not, so be it.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 1):
Why is it that it seems US state capitol buildings have to have a gold dome?

Look at the domes for AK, OR, WA, NV, ID, CA, and UT. None gold and, in the cases of NV and AK not a dome. The Nevada legislature does not meet in the origional capital building. The origional building actually has a small silver dome, but the legislature meets in a different building. Alaska has no dome. Oregon, IIRC, is marble and WA and ID are both granite, again, just going from memory.

But, this thread brings up another good point: Why do states/provinces/cantons/countries choose the place they did for their capital? I don't remember the reason for Salem becoming the capital of Oregon. I think Olympia was chosen because it was thought to be half way between the two major population centers of early Washington: Vancouver and Seattle. SMF was set up there because of the gold rush.

Back on topic: Olympia is right off the I-5, so it can be seen driving between Portland and Seattle. The city of Salem is split by the I-5, but the dome can only really be seen from the freeway if you know what you are looking for. BOI and SLC domes can be seen from the freeway if you look. Carson City NV is not really the first, second, or third place tourists go when in Nevada. I don't think many residents even go there, if given the choice. I think it is a very nice town. Much nicer than RNO.



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User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4386 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 1):
Did West Germans feel the urge to go to Bonn back in the day?

Lived in West-Berlin 1972-2003... Bonn? Does CGN airport (Koeln-Bonn) count? 
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 2):
Canberra the most boring city in Australasia, I can't see why anyone would want to visit...

If your alternative is Tumbarumba, you will gladly settle for a weekend in Canberra! (Happened to me Xmas 2000).



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User currently offlinePacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4378 times:

Quoting BNAOWB (Thread starter):
A few possibilites which are all "new" capitals, geographically isolated from the major cities of that country, and have 2% or less of that country's total population:

It all begins and ends with Myanmar's new capital city Nay Pyi Taw (also spelled Naypyidaw). The secretive and paranoid military junta that rules Myanmar moved government functions to the new capital from Yangon in 2005. Myanmar citizens and foreigners alike are discouraged from visiting the new capital. My uncle was in Myanmar a couple of years ago and passed through Nay Pyi Taw because his flight to a neighboring city was diverted due to weather. He and his guide were followed by government agents as they left the city on the way to their intended destination to make sure they were not engaging in mischief.


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4368 times:
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I would think that some people wouldn't need to go to the capital unless they have business there. When I lived in Missouri I knew a lot of people who had never been to Jefferson City, it isn't major tourist/business destination. I was only in the Capital building twice and that was because I had business in the area so I thought I would drop by. I used to live in Colorado too, in the Denver area. I would go past the capital building on a regular basis. I would think that a large percent of Colorado citizens would have gone to Denver because it is a major city and a economic/tourist destination within the state. I live in Michigan now and I have only gone to Lansing because I had state business there, some other people only go there because that is where Michigan State is. Lansing isn't the kind of city that people go to just for fun, unless it is during football/basketball season. To be technical MSU is really in East Lansing, so that really ins't the capital. I would think that if a capital city is a major city in a state I would think that a larger percent of the population has been there. I would bet that more Michigan citizens have been to Detroit or Grand Rapids than have been to Lansing.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 1):
Why is it that it seems US state capitol buildings have to have a gold dome?

I know Colorado does and it is to symbolize the Gold Rush there. You should see the New Mexico Capital building, it has no dome. I know Pennsylania and Wyoming have a gold dome too.

I have been to these state capital buildings: Missouri, Illinois, New Mexico, Michigan, Colorado, Wyoming, and Pennsylvania. I have also been to the national capital building in Washington DC.



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User currently offlinePacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4349 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
Look at the domes for AK, OR, WA, NV, ID, CA, and UT. None gold and, in the cases of NV and AK not a dome.

There is no dome to speak of on the very modern capital building of Hawaii in Honolulu.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
I don't remember the reason for Salem becoming the capital of Oregon.

The territorial capital of Oregon before it became a state was Oregon City (a suburb of Portland lying southeast of the city). Around the time statehood was achieved the capital was located in Salem which was formerly known as Chemeketa which in the Kalapuya language means "meeting place" or "place of peace" depending on one's translation. The name "Salem" derives from the semitic language group and means "peace," hence the synergy between the Native American and Westernized names of the city (note that the name "Jerusalem" means "city of peace").

Found the following at http://www.oregonlink.com/about_salem.html :

"The location of the Oregon capital caused a spirited contest that lasted nearly 15 years. By an act of 1851, the provisional government moved the capital to Salem from Oregon City; in 1855 it was moved to Corvallis, only to move back to Salem the same year. Destruction of the Capitol at Salem on December 31, 1855, was considered an incendiary part of this controversy."


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4337 times:

I was in Bonn once, but they didn't let me visit the Bundestag (I was too young then). The actual reason we went to Bonn was because my mother needed her passport extended. OTOH, I did visit Berlin at least twice, perhaps even three times IIRC (the first time was just a few months after the fall). As for other foreign capitals, of all countries I remember visiting, I never visited Washington DC, Bern and Wien.

In Costa Rica, the first capital after its independence was Cartago, but later, there was some chaos and for a time, the capital changed between the four major central valley cities (Alajuela, Cartago, Heredia, San José) every few years but then they settled for San José.


User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12947 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4331 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 2):
I can't see why anyone would want to visit, although prostitution is legal and it's the home of the Aussie porn industry.

I think you answered your own question!  
Quoting Marsciguy (Reply 3):
It may be a bit OT, but where do you live in NH? South of Concord?

Yep.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
Meh.... I would like to go just to say "I've been" but it is not an aspiration of mine. If I go, I go, if not, so be it.

If nothing else, the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum is worth the cost of the trip, and visiting the Udvar-Hazy annex near IAD is also highly recommended.



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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
I think it is a very nice town. Much nicer than RNO.

Here here...I've always been one to call out RNO for what it is... a shit hole that I'm not exactly proud to call home... but it is light years ahead of Carson City in every aspect. Carson City is a gang riddled dump with nothing to show for. Now, south of the city and maybe east...those are nice areas, but not Carson City proper.



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4213 times:

Quoting BNAOWB (Thread starter):
For U.S. states

SMF. Nothing special or touristy compared to all the other CA cities (SFO,SAN,LAX etc)


User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2762 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4213 times:

Edmonton is the capital city of the Alberta, but not like a mega-draw for visitors.

I have been to the Edmonton.



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User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 978 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

I think that Hobart, Tasmania, is the only state capital in Australia which is not 10 times larger (population) than the next largest city in that state. And Launceston, the next largest city, is only a couple of hours drive away. Which is a roundabout way of explaining that most of our population lives in the state capitals, so no need to travel to visit. (Sorry, Brisbane, Queensland is only 3.5 times larger than the Gold Coast, although they are pretty much contiguous anyway...)

Canberra is our outlier - our national capital is a single city in its own territory, surrounded by NSW. Many Sydneysiders and southern NSWelshpeople would visit, btu far fewer from other states. And it's not as boring as it seems. Really. Seriously. You can probabyl fill a good two days there at a time......

Kent


User currently offlineEGPH From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4126 times:

Taking this off on a slight slant, I think Edinburgh, Scotland must be the most slagged off capital city maybe in Europe. People who live elsewhere in Scotland but specifically in the areas surrounding Glasgow look at Edinburgh as a place where the middle class posh people live and believe that they are above everyone else whereas all the humble Scots live elsewhere. I know as someone from Edinburgh, if I ever travel the 1 hour along the M8 to Glasgow and say I am from Edinburgh many people will comment, "oh you must be a posh to$$er then"!! All in jokey banter I hasten to add!!

Just a comment  !


User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13197 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4126 times:

I have been in the capital cities of a number of countries, US States, Austraila States, Canada Provinces and in some of their capital/parlament-legisgative facilities.

I would suspect few Australians have been in Canberra or visited it's capital building. I am an American and have done so. I have also been in the capital facilites of the USA (several times), Germany (Berlin), Netherlands, NZ, Canada, as well as several USA States (NY, Indiana, Montana, Vermont), The Australian State of Victoria.

As to capital locations, often they are set in a cental location of a country/state, often near navigable rivers, along major rail lines or roads, river crossings. Some, like Australia, created Canberra so mid-way between Sidney and Melborne.


User currently offlineBNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 400 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 6):
It all begins and ends with Myanmar's new capital city Nay Pyi Taw (also spelled Naypyidaw). The secretive and paranoid military junta that rules Myanmar moved government functions to the new capital from Yangon in 2005. Myanmar citizens and foreigners alike are discouraged from visiting the new capital.

Ah, Myanmar! Very interesting. Only a tiny percentage of Myanmar's adult population could have possibly visited this new capital city (only built since 2002).


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11701 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4037 times:

I'd say either India or China would hold the record. Massive populations each totalling more than a billion, but with capital cities of 'only' 14 million and 17 million respectively.


Dan  



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User currently offlineAlexEU From Nauru, joined Oct 2007, 1824 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4021 times:

Countries that don´t have the largest city as a capital city:

USA
Canada
Belize
Brazil
Bolivia
South Africa
Malawi
Tanzania
Sudan
United Arab Emirates
Benin
Myanmar
Australia
China
India
Sri Lanka
Pakistan
Ecuador
Kazakhstan
Liechtenstein
Morocco
New Zealand
Cote d´Ivoire
Cameroon
San Marino
Switzerland
Israel
Trinidad and Tobago
Malta
Turkey
Vietnam
Philipinnes
Monaco
Micronesia


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4010 times:

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 19):
USA

This is a bad example. Firstly, DC has a tourist draw all out of proportion to its size. Other capitols on your list (Ottawa, Pretoria, etc.), do not. Secondly, DC properly encompasses an MSA including much of Virginia and Maryland, much of which would not exist without DC.

Also, you listed the UAE, but really, what is the "capitol city" there? Sure, one is defined, but does it mean much?

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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8974 posts, RR: 39
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4008 times:

Quoting BNAOWB (Thread starter):
Also, if your country's capital city is not a dominant economic/cultural city within your country, do many people consider it a priority to visit that capital city at least once in their lifetime?

More or less a priority, though most will opt for the coast as a travel destination any day. It might be more of a destination to those who live closer to the city especially given travel affordability issues.



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User currently offlinetexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4287 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3960 times:

I would think Augusta, Maine and Pierre, South Dakota would be high on the list in the U.S. Thimpu, Bhutan is probably high on the list internationally in terms of people visiting. In percentage of population of the country it would rank higher.

Texan



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User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7827 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 14):
You can probabyl fill a good two days there at a time......

That's a lot of hookers  


User currently offlineAlexEU From Nauru, joined Oct 2007, 1824 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 20):
This is a bad example. Firstly, DC has a tourist draw all out of proportion to its size. Other capitols on your list (Ottawa, Pretoria, etc.), do not. Secondly, DC properly encompasses an MSA including much of Virginia and Maryland, much of which would not exist without DC.

I didn´t give example of USA, I listed all the countries of the world that don´t have the largest city as the capital city. And surely Washington D.C. is smaller then New York and some other cities too.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 20):
Also, you listed the UAE, but really, what is the "capitol city" there? Sure, one is defined, but does it mean much?

The capital is Abu Dhabi, while the largest city is Dubai   It means that most gov´t offices and embassies are in Abu Dhabi.


25 A346Dude : If you did indeed mean "a" capital city and not "the" capital city (i.e. the federal capital), then Canada should not be on the list. Toronto is the
26 Post contains images bookishaviator : I think its reputation as the boring capital is somewhat undeserved. Not as exciting as, say, Sydney or Melbourne, sure, far from it. But horses for
27 Post contains images Springbok747 : Agreed. There is absolutely nothing to do there..one visit is all that is necessary. The ONLY thing I like about Canberra is the War Memorial. Not in
28 Doona : Exact number on this would be incredibly hard to find, methinks. Actually, the capital is simply Monaco. Monaco-ville and Monte Carlo are not separat
29 ha763 : Yeah, it was designed to resemble a volcanic island rising out of the sea, so we have a huge hole in the middle of the roof instead of a dome.
30 Offloaded : I´d have to say Ottawa. Or Planet Ottawa. Seems to exist only for government and bureaucrats. Never met a Canadian who actually wanted to go there.
31 Post contains images AlexEU : I forgot to add Tanzania on my list, since Dodoma is the capital city, not Dar Es Salaam. Seems like a very boring place too! Sri Lanka also has a new
32 N328KF : Sure, but it's nowhere as far down the list as some of the tiny capitols. And as I said, the tourist draw for DC is disproportionately high, not low,
33 A346DUde : Thanks for the tip... Your list is "Countries that don´t have the largest city as a capital city". Toronto is a capital city, the capital of the pro
34 signol : Dutch members, can you please confirm your capital city - is it Amsterdam or Den Haag? South Africa officially has 3 capitals: Pretoria (executive cap
35 PacNWjet : See my post at Reply # 6 which I shall re-post herein (with minor modifications): Myanmar's new capital city is located at Nay Pyi Taw (also spelled
36 Post contains images Boeing744 : Have you actually been here? Ottawa gets tonnes of tourist - probably misproportionate to its size. It's also known as quite a scenic city and very f
37 Post contains links ac888yow : I went for a day (more like 6 hours) on a super cheap Virgin Australia fare from Sydney and don't regret it. The war museum/memorial/tomb of the unkn
38 Post contains links and images cedars747 : Yamoussoukro is the official capital city of Côte d'Ivoire. A city of 200,659 inhabitants as of 2005, and located 240 kilometres north of Abidjans
39 Post contains images RobertNL070 : Amsterdam is the capital and the largest city of the Netherlands. Amsterdam's only claims to fame are hookers and weed. Of course The Hague, where I
40 seb146 : Uhhh... huh? I saw none of that. I was all over Carson City and saw nothing but good people. It was quiet and clean. Not like Reno where drug deals w
41 A332 : Why in the world would anyone want to visit Edmonton? Calgary should be the capital anyway.
42 AlexEU : I dont see a big issue here. Whats the difference between ´´the´´ and ´´a´´. If you say that Toronto is A capital city, we could say that eve
43 tropical77W : I did my undergraduate degree at the University of Ottawa, and let me say, even though it was fun partying with other students, i would never live th
44 BOStonsox : Pierre, South Dakota has to be #1. Otherwise, Helena, Montana Cheyenne, Wyoming Bismark, North Dakota Charleston, West Virginia and Montpelier, Vermon
45 signol : My apologies, I must have missed your post. So what defines the capital? The seat of government, location of the national parliament, and even reside
46 BNAOWB : So, comparing Pierre (2.5% of South Dakota's population) with Juneau (4% of Alaska's population), Pierre is reachable by car in 3.25 hours or less fr
47 BOStonsox : I think Juneau is a popular cruise destination. I actually know someone from Juneau so maybe he can give me some insight on how many people travel th
48 BNAOWB : It would be interesting to hear what your friend from Juneau says. If we are measuring which state capital has been visited by the smallest percentag
49 BOStonsox : I talked to him and he said that Juneau gets over a million vistors from cruise traffic a year. He says that very few people from Alaska visit Juneau
50 Post contains images CGKings317 : Ottawa is a very beautiful city with expansive biking and walking paths -- I love the green-way that lines the Rideau canal. For my next class meetin
51 cedars747 : I think of Rabat ! Casablanca is far more visited,I am wrong?
52 Post contains images Boeing744 : GeeGee!
53 Post contains images nitrohelper : That certainly makes it a great place to visit... far better than that art museum stuff...
54 melpax : And you can't buy fireworks there anymore either! Up until a few years back, you were still able to buy fireworks in Canberra when their sale had bee
55 Post contains images MadameConcorde : oh... certainly... Concorde F-BVFA is so beautiful... I love doing layovers at IAD just long enough to go and see her! I want to Myanmar. Travelled a
56 NZ107 : The only 2 things I found interesting there was the AIS and the Royal Australian Mint.. But flying through there isn't that bad - the only place in m
57 UA777222 : NOTHING AT ALL! As a college student now, I went in middle school and pretty much only go up there now to protest as a student body. I'm pretty sure
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