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NMB Union Elections Changes? What's The Update?  
User currently offlineDELTA7478 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Does anybody out there know when the National Mediation Board will make up there mind in regards’ to changing the Unions elections procedures????

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User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2565 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

What in the world are you talking about? The NMB has nothing to do with the election of union officers.

HAL



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User currently offlineDELTA7478 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

I am talking about how they elect a Union, right know the have the 50+1 in order to elect a union, know the NMB was debating in changing those rules.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25750 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

I understand something will be published very soon in the Federal Register, with likely a public comment period before any changes (if any) are enacted.


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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10511 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

Quoting HAL (Reply 1):
What in the world are you talking about? The NMB has nothing to do with the election of union officers.

Where are you getting this? The OP was talking about the representation elections to see if the DL people wanted a union or not.



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User currently offlineDELTA7478 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1626 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):

Thanks, at first I thought I was talking non sence. Thanks LAXintl. I was just wondering when I will be able to vote, and get this thing over with.


User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

It is my understanding (take it for what it's worth) that the NMB will issue their decision shortly; possibly as soon as the end of this month.

Besides the normal glacial pace of bureaucracy, the Xmas holidays, storms in DC, and the motion to have Pachula and Hoglander recused have all caused it to drag out longer.

AFAIK, the comment period is over and done with. If someone knows otherwise, please chime in- preferably with a link.

Not for nothing, but the last time I checked, the comments were running 10-to 1 in favor of the proposed rules.

At the risk of sounding condescending (not my intent) you do realize that this ruling will effect ALL elections going forward, and not just ours at DL, right?



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineDELTA7478 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 6):

It is my understanding (take it for what it's worth) that the NMB will issue their decision shortly; possibly as soon as the end of this month.

Besides the normal glacial pace of bureaucracy, the Xmas holidays, storms in DC, and the motion to have Pachula and Hoglander recused have all caused it to drag out longer.

AFAIK, the comment period is over and done with. If someone knows otherwise, please chime in- preferably with a link.

Not for nothing, but the last time I checked, the comments were running 10-to 1 in favor of the proposed rules.

At the risk of sounding condescending (not my intent) you do realize that this ruling will effect ALL elections going forward, and not just ours at DL, right?



Yes, So right know there in favor on changing the rules?? and if they do change the rules how will that work,,Right know you need 50+1 get get the Union in. How will these change work?????


User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1596 times:

Quoting DELTA7478 (Reply 7):
How will these change work?????

Under the proposed rules change, only votes actually *cast* will count. As it is now, someone not voting at all counts as a "no."



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineDELTA7478 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 8):

Ok, I see. So under the new rules if you do whant the Union you mark YES right, and if you dont' want the union you will mark NO,, will the No be counted as a NO union or YES???


User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1583 times:

Quoting DELTA7478 (Reply 9):
Ok, I see. So under the new rules if you do whant the Union you mark YES right, and if you dont' want the union you will mark NO,, will the No be counted as a NO union or YES???

If you're Pro union= Vote Yes.

If you're Anti union= Vote no.



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25750 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Well my understanding from the labor department of a corporation is that they expect a proposed NMB rule change to get published, however there still will be time period for additional comment and adjustment before any potential final changes.

The political mood has changed in DC the last few months and several key members of Congress are now less enthused about seeing changes made by the NMB. Congressional legislation via proposed card-check concept is pretty much dead in this Congressional term, and there is worry that the political use of the NMB to push an agenda could come back to hurt its proponents and would also open the door for continued future flip-flop's as the White House changes between parties. Basically a Pandora’s box waiting.



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5490 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1547 times:

Quoting DELTA7478 (Reply 9):
Ok, I see. So under the new rules if you do whant the Union you mark YES right, and if you dont' want the union you will mark NO,, will the No be counted as a NO union or YES???

I woul suggest you read the ballot and/or instructions that come with it. Partisan folks around you may try to mislead you.



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User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1483 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1530 times:

The proposed rule change was published in the federal register on November 3rd 2009. That opened up the window for a 60 day comment period that ended on January 4th.

The NMB will now have a choice to either implement that change or retract it, once the final ruling is in the federal register it will become effective 30 days after it is published.

Expect legal challenges from the ATA.



The proposed change says:

If you want a union vote YES

If you don't want a union vote NO


The side that receives the most votes wins. Just like every other election in our democratic society.


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