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Conservative Blogger Incites Violence At Obama  
User currently offlinefuturepilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 weeks ago) and read 3157 times:

See for yourself

http://jezebel.com/5498461/conservat...s-assassination-on-twitter-updated

http://www.the33tv.com/news/kdaf-jay...orell-twitter-story,0,765117.story

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...posts_twitter_call_for_obama_.html

He called for an assassination of Obama, citing the fact that the country survived the assassinations of Kennedy and Lincoln.

Quote:
"America, we survived the assassinations of Lincoln & Kennedy. We'll surely get over a bullet to Barack Obama's head."

He didn't just do this on his own time, he posted it for the whole world to see on twitter, claiming that the next person who has a clean shot at Obama should, and I quote "drop him like a bad habit"

When Bush was in office, no liberal I knew, even so called "radical" libs on radio shows would NEVER say anything this graphic towards him. They might have written graphic things about Bush in all their anger, but never to this degree.

I would also like to point out that twitter has removed his graphic tweets due to violation of profile rules.

Stay classy Forell


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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5225 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 weeks ago) and read 3136 times:

Quoting futurepilot16 (Thread starter):

Here's hoping he gets a nice little visit from his friendly, neighborhood FBI agent in the next day or so.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 weeks ago) and read 3134 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 1):
Here's hoping he gets a nice little visit from his friendly, neighborhood FBI agent in the next day or so.

Yep most definately.

I still say Biden will destroy this presidency faster.   


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5429 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Quoting futurepilot16 (Thread starter):

When Bush was in office, no liberal I knew, even so called "radical" libs on radio shows would NEVER say anything this graphic towards him. They might have written graphic things about Bush in all their anger, but never to this degree.
http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/de...ts-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

That only took about 10 seconds to find. Nice try at trolling though.

Quoting futurepilot16 (Thread starter):
I would also like to point out that twitter has removed his graphic tweets due to violation of profile rules.

..... Your point? ......

Quoting OA412 (Reply 1):
Here's hoping he gets a nice little visit from his friendly, neighborhood FBI agent

It'll be the Secret Service..... and they do make the FBI look friendly.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5225 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 3):
It'll be the Secret Service..... and they do make the FBI look friendly.

LOL, how could I have made that mistake? And yes, they definitely do.

[Edited 2010-03-22 23:27:29]


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13255 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2972 times:
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Quoting futurepilot16 (Thread starter):
Quote:
"America, we survived the assassinations of Lincoln & Kennedy. We'll surely get over a bullet to Barack Obama's head."

ANYONE saying such a thing truly deserves not only a visit from the U.S. Secret Service, but federal prosecutors should also consider bringing charges against this person.



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7951 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 5):
ANYONE saying such a thing truly deserves not only a visit from the U.S. Secret Service, but federal prosecutors should also consider bringing charges against this person.

That could make for interesting legal proceedings were the individuals involved to claim that they do not recognize Mr. Obama as their President, and refuse to acknowledge his status without forthcoming birthright evidence.



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 5):
ANYONE saying such a thing truly deserves not only a visit from the U.S. Secret Service, but federal prosecutors should also consider bringing charges against this person.

People do fail to realize that is illegal, under US Code, to threaten The President and I believe, anyone in the direct line of scuccession to The Presidency.

We had some local white supremicist guy that wrote a poem or something along the lines of threatening The President and is currently challenging his prosecution on First Amendment grounds. I'm guessing this has been tested in court before.

Oh well, there are idiots on both sides. Speedy prosecution to the appropriate jurisdication.



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5429 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 5):
but federal prosecutors should also consider bringing charges against this person.

I'd like to see them try. The statement you quoted (by itself), while despicable, is protected by the 1st Amendment.

Saying the country will get over it is one thing; to deliberately incite someone to do it is different.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 6):
That could make for interesting legal proceedings were the individuals involved to claim that they do not recognize Mr. Obama as their President, and refuse to acknowledge his status without forthcoming birthright evidence.

Erm, considering the Supreme Court has already validated Obama's "birthright", it wouldn't be interesting at all. A simple "motion dismissed".

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 7):
People do fail to realize that is illegal, under US Code, to threaten The President and I believe, anyone in the direct line of scuccession to The Presidency.

Indeed.... they're carbon copies of regular incitement and threat laws, but with the added "The xxx of the United States" (where xxx could be the Pres, VP, and other officials).



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7951 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 8):
Erm, considering the Supreme Court has already validated Obama's "birthright", it wouldn't be interesting at all. A simple "motion dismissed".

Legally you're correct, of course, but I'm referring to the greater incitement that would generate with the ever-growing birther crowd, some of whom are still posting their drivel on this very site.



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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2886 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 6):
That could make for interesting legal proceedings were the individuals involved to claim that they do not recognize Mr. Obama as their President, and refuse to acknowledge his status without forthcoming birthright evidence.

The only interesting part is that this clown's attorney will attempt an insanity defense if he seriously believes Obama is not the President.

What can I say though. Political parties.

Quoting futurepilot16 (Thread starter):
When Bush was in office, no liberal I knew, even so called "radical" libs on radio shows would NEVER say anything this graphic towards him. They might have written graphic things about Bush in all their anger, but never to this degree.

Then you have a very selective memory...a product of political party brainwashing. There were plenty of idiots wanting Bush dead, just like this tool has it in for Obama. The Secret Service deals with many such threats and has been for a loooooong time before Dubbers and Barry.

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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2857 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 8):
I'd like to see them try. The statement you quoted (by itself), while despicable, is protected by the 1st Amendment.

I looked it up. US Code Title 18, Part II, Chapter 41, part 871 (I really wish I could remember how to cite this stuff in legalese):

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...8/usc_sec_18_00000871----000-.html

Question is: has it been challenged on First Amendment grounds yet?



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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 11):
Question is: has it been challenged on First Amendment grounds yet?

"Your rights end where mine begin".

You cannot threaten, or incite people to remove one's right to life, liberty, property, happiness, etc.

You are more than free to air your disagreements with the President's policy. But inciting of violence is beyond one's rights as it steps on President Obama's.

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2739 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 8):
The statement you quoted (by itself), while despicable, is protected by the 1st Amendment.

Apparently you missed this.

Quote:
"The next American with a clear shot should drop Obama like a habit."

That is not protected speech.



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User currently offlineBoeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1819 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 9):
Legally you're correct, of course, but I'm referring to the greater incitement that would generate with the ever-growing birther crowd, some of whom are still posting their drivel on this very site.

Oh I'm sure this genious is convinced that Obama is a Muslim who was born in Canada or something of the sort... Nonetheless, even if he DID have a legal opportunity to claim this (which he doesn't) he was still uttering death threats against a person... It doesn't really matter if it was the President, it's still a crime.


User currently offlinestarac17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3334 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

Quoting futurepilot16 (Thread starter):
He called for an assassination of Obama, citing the fact that the country survived the assassinations of Kennedy and Lincoln.

The assassination of Barack Obama would lead to a complete riot all over the US and lead the country probably into a second Civil war and if the union did survive it would decades to recover. My prediction would be if the US did survive it would be broken apart and would no longer be a world superpower. Also neither one of those presidents were nearly as historic to American History as this one.

If this does happen no matter what the motive of the shooter is "Its going to be considered racially motivated."

You will have your chance to ger rid of this man from office in a civil manner in 2012 if that is the will of the American people.



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12322 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

Quoting starac17 (Reply 15):
The assassination of Barack Obama would lead to a complete riot all over the US and lead the country probably into a second Civil war and if the union did survive it would decades to recover. My prediction would be if the US did survive it would be broken apart and would no longer be a world superpower. Also neither one of those presidents were nearly as historic to American History as this one.

I could certainly see it resulting in riots, but I think the union would survive it; however, I hope that assumption is never put to the test. Sadly, the reality is that there are probably more than a few extremists out there who would attempt this, given half a chance.


User currently offlineBoeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1819 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Quoting starac17 (Reply 15):
The assassination of Barack Obama would lead to a complete riot all over the US and lead the country probably into a second Civil war and if the union did survive it would decades to recover. My prediction would be if the US did survive it would be broken apart and would no longer be a world superpower. Also neither one of those presidents were nearly as historic to American History as this one.

I think that's a bit far. Certainly riots would happen but I can't see them lasting too long. Biden would take power and things would eventually calm down.

Not to belittle the scope of horror that would engulf the country, but the US is too strong of a state to descend into another civil war.

[Edited 2010-03-23 12:08:05]

User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2032 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

Quoting futurepilot16 (Thread starter):
When Bush was in office, no liberal I knew, even so called "radical" libs on radio shows would NEVER say anything this graphic towards him. They might have written graphic things about Bush in all their anger, but never to this degree.

Didn't someone make a movie depicting Bush getting assassinated?

Quoting starac17 (Reply 15):

A bit over dramatic, don't you think?

[Edited 2010-03-23 12:14:44]


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2531 times:

Quoting TheCol (Reply 18):
Didn't someone make a movie depicting Bush getting assassinated?

Yea, but of course that's ok. LIke I said in the other thread about the racial slurs. The left never wants to admit that they have radicals that stoop to the lowest of level. Both parties do.. It's simply been a smoke screen to try to deflect attention from the fact that the nation's approval rating of congress is near 10%. Blame the GOP. It will be the DNC tactic right to the end.


User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2690 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

Ummm....What?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWOWyHWj6M



Pretty sure no one complained about this.

[Edited 2010-03-23 12:57:23]


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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8028 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 20):
Ummm....What?

Justification with "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"? Justification in the name of another mans stupidity is still stupidity.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5225 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Yea, but of course that's ok. LIke I said in the other thread about the racial slurs. The left never wants to admit that they have radicals that stoop to the lowest of level.

That's because you paint the left with broad brush strokes and never actually take a moment to learn a thing or two about us or what we believe. You watch Rachel Maddow and think that we all agree with her and use her talking points. You hear someone say that racists exist only on the right and you assume that we all feel that way. You read somewhere that the left condoned people calling for the assassination of George W Bush, you bought it hook, line, and sinker and now you think that we were all OK with it.

I would never have carried signs such as the ones posted above which called for the assassination of GWB. I vehemently disagreed with the man and think he was a truly awful president, but I would never have called for his assassination, nor do I condone the fact that some people on the left did.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Both parties do.. It's simply been a smoke screen to try to deflect attention from the fact that the nation's approval rating of congress is near 10%.

What does congress' approval rating have to do with anything? By the way, I'm sure you're aware that congress is made up of representatives from both parties. Or are you suggesting that this 10% approval rating should only be applied to Democratic congressmen?

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 21):
Justification with "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"? Justification in the name of another mans stupidity is still stupidity.

  



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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2690 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

My point was the HYPOCRISY by the lefties. This death threat against Obama is not justifiable ONE BIT. It is pretty disgusting, in fact.

[Edited 2010-03-23 18:37:48]


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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8711 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 22):
That's because you paint the left with broad brush strokes and never actually take a moment to learn a thing or two about us or what we believe. You watch Rachel Maddow and think that we all agree with her and use her talking points. You hear someone say that racists exist only on the right and you assume that we all feel that way. You read somewhere that the left condoned people calling for the assassination of George W Bush, you bought it hook, line, and sinker and now you think that we were all OK with it.

Stop with the indignation. The left jumped at the chance to use the words of two morons to paint with a broad brush the entire conservative half of the population, including on the floor of the House hours before the deciding vote.



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25 L-188 : Thats not a threat. He is just somebody, "Should" He didn't say he would He didn't say somebody will. I think the basis for this being called a threa
26 Aaron747 : Perhaps the USS would beg to differ - you should ask them about it.
27 L-188 : No thank you. I have found cops to be fundamentally stupid when it comes to constitutional rights.
28 pgh234 : Futurepilot, your posts over the past few days make me realize how closed minded most people are. This type of attitude, lack of common sense, and co
29 Aaron747 : Because you know the answer. Someone should take your flag the next time you fly it outside your home.
30 Post contains images OA412 : OK, once again what hypocrisy? Did you not read my reply above where I clearly said that the death threats made against GWB were equally moronic? I'm
31 pgh234 : I dont give half of a crap about what someone does in their private life. I do not see how that affects the country (beyond giving the media somethin
32 474218 : The POTUS is a tough job, I can remember all the way back to Truman and there have been threats against him and every POTUS since him and before him.
33 L-188 : Agree completely. I personally think there are chld molesters who have more intergrey and sense of morality then Obama has.
34 futurepilot16 : You're right i'm very closed minded. Matter of fact, i'm the most closed minded guy on A-Net. I see things for what they are and if it means i'm clos
35 Post contains images OA412 : Right because the reason people like Bob Barr were so fervently in favor of impeachment was because Clinton lied under oath. It's your right to feel
36 Ltbewr : There is no doubt that some called for acts of violence against GWB. That is just as wrong as making threats as the initial post discusses. I am quite
37 L-188 : Bringing up racism is a cop-out. It is his policies and beliefes that make him a burr.
38 2707200X : Comparing Obama to a child molester? Thats pretty freaggin low L-188, pathetic. BTW you misspelled Integrity.
39 474218 : I agree 100%, Obama's race means nothing, its his policies. Also, he is only half black. The thing that really bothers me about Obama is you will nev
40 JBirdAV8r : Oh, FP, you'll soon learn that part of maturity is learning that NO ONE has all the answers. Such broad compartmentalization is a simpleton's worldvi
41 JBirdAV8r : Actually, LTB, the amount of threats against the President have not increased for Obama versus Bush, per the Director of the Secret Service. This arg
42 Post contains images Mudboy : No statement could be more correct. Dude, are you serious? That is a little over dramatic, I think our nation is a hell of a lot stronger than that!
43 JBirdAV8r : I can't believed I missed this. A second civil war??? Between whom??? Racial tensions aren't that bad, and there are ZERO large groups (be they geogr
44 san747 : What land is that? Certainly not the US... but I'd love to move to this nation you speak of where people make informed votes based on the candidate's
45 Post contains images JBirdAV8r : Ha-ha. Do you honestly believe the majority (or even a significant minority) of people voted against Obama because he is Black?
46 474218 : Why do you see Obama as black? I see him as a Marxis that hates the fact that US citizens are free to think for themselves.
47 Post contains images futurepilot16 : Ladies and gentlemen, we have a a psychic present on A-Net. Profile name 474218. Hey Mr. 474218, can you tell me what my future looks like?
48 starac17 : I will concede that my first post was way over dramatic and very worst case scenario. I will say however if this president were to get assassinated th
49 474218 : Can you find one Obama speech where he talks about "freedom and liberity"? Can you find one Obama speech where he does not talk about what the govern
50 Post contains links Aaron747 : But more than any other nation, the United States of America has underwritten global security for over six decades -- a time that, for all its problem
51 starac17 : Freedom and liberty is always implied and simply repeating it is just a waste of time. Your freedoms and liberty are not going anywhere and if you th
52 EA CO AS : I don't understand your comment - psychics see the future.
53 JBirdAV8r : My "liberty" to work hard for good health insurance for my family, see the physician of my choice, and make responsible healthcare decisions on my ow
54 OA412 : Please provide us with a definition of Marxism and kindly explain how Obama fits that description. So unless someone uses the words freedom and liber
55 AirStairs : What I think is so pathetic is how the idiots that make such remarks try to rationalize them by saying that Obama is a threat to our freedom and our c
56 san747 : No, but do you honestly believe the majority or significant minority casts their vote in an informed, intelligent matter based on research into the c
57 L-188 : I think the real racists in the last election cycle was the african americans who voted for Obama only because he was half-black. They didn't even bo
58 seb146 : Actually, what the right kept saying over and over again was "We are too patriotic to do anything like that." Riiiiight.... Like Obama will suspend t
59 Aaron747 : Still a lawyer, and already rich prior to the campaign thanks to book royalties so that doesn't really fly. It sounds like you have no qualms with pe
60 Post contains images OA412 : Right because blacks, who always vote overwhelmingly for Democratic candidates, would have voted for John McCain if the Democratic candidate had been
61 pgh234 : Of all of the black people that I know, I am friends with, that I work with, and that I saw on the news...they were positively giddy that... 1) We no
62 AirStairs : Have you heard some of those interviews they did in Harlem in 08? Several black people said they agreed with Obama's pro-life stance, his decision to
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