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Detroit Fire Truck Left On Tracks Gets Hit!  
User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

This is why you don't ever ever leave any part of your vehicle hanging over the tracks for any reason. The truck cost $600,000 dollars. It won't be easily replaced given Detroit's financial situation.

http://www.thetimesherald.com/articl...smashes-firetruck-parked-on-tracks

Here's the video link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snq3UlHE4Lw

[Edited 2010-03-24 15:03:47]

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User currently offlineaircatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 567 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

That cop car was fast to react!

User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3085 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

Wow!   

I would have probably shit myself if I was in that Crown-Vic. Glad he was able to throw it in reverse in time and GTFO!



Marine Corps Aviation, The Last To Let You Down!
User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1287 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2205 times:

You would think first responders would know better than to leave their vehicles on an active crossing. I'm guessing there is more to this than meets the eye.


You know the gear is up and locked when it takes full throttle to taxi to the terminal.
User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 3):
You would think first responders would know better than to leave their vehicles on an active crossing.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Is Detroit really going to have to shell out to replace the fire truck? I thought maybe there's insurance for that. Then again, what insurance company would write a policy to cover emergency response vehicles...that would be commercial suicide.



Pancakes are delicious.
User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5489 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

Yes, emergency vehicles are insured.

Looks like the vehicles were waiting on cross traffic.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlineTZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2869 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 3):
I'm guessing there is more to this than meets the eye.

Yes there is

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 5):
Looks like the vehicles were waiting on cross traffic.

Actually, that is not that case. I was reading about this a couple of weeks ago and what happened is that there was an accident at that location the fire department was responding to and parked the truck on the tracks. Then soon enough, the truck became involved in their own accident.



LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5489 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

Quoting TZ757300 (Reply 6):
parked the truck on the tracks.

The, quite simply, the apparatus operator and the officer should be out of a job. Pretty well, unacceptable to park a vehicle on the tracks.

You just don't do that until you have confirmation from the RR company that train traffic has been stopped in both directions. Just making the request doesn't cut it.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlinekevinl1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 47
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

What a bunch of dumb asses! Like, you can't hear a train coming from miles away.

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 3):
I'm guessing there is more to this than meets the eye.

Incompetance? Ignorance? That's what meets my eyes.

This is the kind of stuff you see happening in under-developed 3rd world nations. Heck, no loss. They probably didn't know how to use that truck anyway. Why was a ladder truck responding to a TC? I'm surprised that Detriot hasn't burned to the ground yet with shit for brains firefighters like that.



474218, Carl, You will be missed.
User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5489 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2002 times:

Quoting kevinl1011 (Reply 8):
Heck, no loss. They probably didn't know how to use that truck anyway. Why was a ladder truck responding to a TC? I'm surprised that Detriot hasn't burned to the ground yet with shit for brains firefighters like that.

Now, let's not get too snippy. I can't really tell, but it could be a rear-mount quint. We rolled a quint as first due in the response area to an MVA. When I first started, we carried our extrication tools on a 100' tiller, because it didn't fit on our '70's era Macks.

Different departments have different SOP's for response.

Though, I don't know of any that say you can be stopped on unsecured railroad tracks.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlineNWAdeicer From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 174 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

Quoting kevinl1011 (Reply 8):
What a bunch of dumb asses! Like, you can't hear a train coming from miles away.

Incompetance? Ignorance? That's what meets my eyes.

This is the kind of stuff you see happening in under-developed 3rd world nations. Heck, no loss. They probably didn't know how to use that truck anyway. Why was a ladder truck responding to a TC? I'm surprised that Detriot hasn't burned to the ground yet with shit for brains firefighters like that.

Did you get beat up by a fireman early in life?



I miss the Red Tail
User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1923 times:

One of the things I find most interesting is how little the camera moves when the the train hits the truck. That should give everyone some idea of the weight of those locomotives. Think about how much less it would move if that were a Toyota Prius!

User currently offlinedragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Mama always said..."Don't play with your firetruck on the railroad tracks you #%& idiot"


Phrogs Phorever
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13229 posts, RR: 77
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

I understand the fashionable phrase for this is 'Epic Fail!'

Love to be a fly on the wall at the meetings to discuss this incident.

It also reminds me of a spectacular but deliberate demonstration in the UK in 1984, when it was decided to allay fears of the transportation of nuclear material by rail, in what was called 'Operation Smash Hit'.
Also to piss off Greenpeace who had heavily campaigned against this, which as this BBC News report from the time, shows;

http://videosift.com/video/Spectacul...-Train-Crash-Test-of-Nuclear-Flask

Pics from a young photographer at the time;

http://www.hentis-rail.co.uk/Opsmashit/opsmashhit.html


User currently offlinekevinl1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 47
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 9):
Now, let's not get too snippy

Yeah, I was a bit too harsh but I really hate to see equipment get tore up like that when it could have been avoided.

Quoting dragon6172 (Reply 12):
Mama always said..."Don't play with your firetruck on the railroad tracks you #%& idiot"


  



474218, Carl, You will be missed.
User currently offlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 926 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 1554 times:

Quoting DXing (Reply 11):
One of the things I find most interesting is how little the camera moves when the the train hits the truck. That should give everyone some idea of the weight of those locomotives.

Yeah, a C-C trucked loco weighs about 400,000lbs. A 100 car coal train is 10,000+ tons.


User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1457 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 5):
Yes, emergency vehicles are insured.

Indeed, but many cities are self insured. If that is indeed the case, then the Detroit taxpayers will have to come up not only with the cash to replace the wrecked engine, but pay for any damages to the railroad locomotive, cars and any injury claims.



"When a man runs on railroads over half of his lifetime he is fit for nothing else-and at times he don't know that."
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