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Legal Drinking Age 19: Restaurant IDs Under 39 1/2  
User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4695 times:

Is it just me, or is this "We ID Under Age XX" campaign really starting to get out of hand?

Last time I checked, the legal drinking age in British Columbia is 19. Now, if a business "suspects" me of being under the age of 19 thats one thing, but for a company (Red Robin) to make it their policy to ID someone under the age of 39 1/2 has seriously got some issues going on.

I'm sure there are people out there who look younger than they really are, any by all means, ID them. But to actually get employees to check for ID of someone who is twice the legal drinking age? WTF?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but once one reaches a certain age, one is entitled to certain privilages that come with that age, as well as certain responsibilities and such. I'm failing to understand what a company is trying to achieve by making a mockery out these privilages. Do they not realize that there are actually some adults out there who want nothing more than a simple meal without being asked for ID by some acne covered teen thats half your age every time you want a beer?


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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4679 times:

Ive wondered this for a long time, perhaps you can shed some light onto it.

How do they know if someone is 39.5 and to card them in the first place?

BTW, I get double-IDd in alot of places with my out of state ID when I go a certain liquor store chain. Royal PITA.


User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4671 times:

It's out of hand in the UK. It used to be ask 21 (if you looked under 21 you needed ID for drink/smokes), now it's 25. There are 25 year olds with kids and a wife in some cases.

In a certain UK pub chain (I shall not tell you who, but it rhymes with speatherwoons....) had no problem with my group of friends in (perfectly legal, we were 16/17 with a few at 18 but only bought for themselves), then all of a sudden it became against the law for us to drink (coke) in there. They ID'ed us all (I happened to have my passport on me, not sure what good it would have done as I'm still 17 even now) and they said I had to buy a meal or leave without finishing my drink. I went to the bar to get a bowl of chips (if she was going to take the piss, so was I) and a different barmaid ID'ed me again.

I got ID'ed. FOR A BOWL OF CHIPS.       Seriously, what the f*ck is the world coming to? Apparently you have to have an 18 year old in your group or be 18 to order a meal. News to me  

Needless to say, they lost our business after that. Shame, it was a nice pub.

On a related note, in Florida my dad was ID'ed at the age of 37 for a piss... I mean budweiser.   Political correctness gone insane.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4651 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 1):

Ive wondered this for a long time, perhaps you can shed some light onto it.

Thats what I'm hoping for myself, but I doubt anyone can actually shed some valubale insight to such a ridiculous practice.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 1):
How do they know if someone is 39.5 and to card them in the first place?

What I'd like to know ... why 39 1/2? Who's hat did they pull that out of or is there some actual legal department that actually has some mystical formula to arrive at such a "cute" number? LOL!

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 2):
On a related note, in Florida my dad was ID'ed at the age of 37 for a piss... I mean budweiser

Lol .... Budweiser ... gross .... lol!

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 2):
Political correctness gone insane.

Don't know if its poitial correctness, but if its not the ID police, then its the food police, or the internet police, or the grammer police, or the lord only knows what police.



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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4649 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 2):

I got ID'ed. FOR A BOWL OF CHIPS. Seriously, what the f*ck is the world coming to? Apparently you have to have an 18 year old in your group or be 18 to order a meal. News to me

Needless to say, they lost our business after that. Shame, it was a nice pub.

In the land of the free, you cannot walk into alot of liquor stores unless you are 21. And not only that but you cannot walk into some restaurants/bars if you are not 21 after a certain hour.

Its BS, plain and simple.


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4649 times:

I'm 26 and I've been asked for ID several times for buying beer (mostly at local liquor shopping place, like Coles Liquorland). On one occasion the store clerk himself looked under 18..and he is asking me for ID so that I can buy beer.

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 2):
I got ID'ed. FOR A BOWL OF CHIPS.

I've had that happen at a Pizza Hut in Kansas city (I was 20 at the time), apparently I didnt look 20..so the waiter actually asked me for ID to prove I am over 18. When the hell did someone have to be over 18 to order pizza?! Ridiculous.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11525 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4629 times:

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
When the hell did someone have to be over 18 to order pizza?! Ridiculous.

Cerfew is the only thing I can think of. Some places do not allow minors (those under 18) to be out after a certain hour. Other than that, I can not say.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 4):
In the land of the free, you cannot walk into alot of liquor stores unless you are 21.

I was in BevMo (liquor store chain in Cali) yesterday. A woman and a young girl (about 2) were in the spirits section purchasing vodka and tequila. The little girl was pointing and commenting on how she wanted this pretty one and that pretty one. That is just wrong.

As far as Red Robin, they say 39 1/2 here in the states, too, but I only see people getting ID'd if they truly look young. I have not been ID'd for a long time. Even when I was 19 and I bought my first case of beer, they didn't ID me.



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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4618 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 6):
I was in BevMo (liquor store chain in Cali) yesterday. A woman and a young girl (about 2) were in the spirits section purchasing vodka and tequila. The little girl was pointing and commenting on how she wanted this pretty one and that pretty one. That is just wrong.

How is that wrong? You think a 2 year old girl is going to be an alcoholic because she went with her mom to the liquor store??


User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 4):
In the land of the free, you cannot walk into alot of liquor stores unless you are 21. And not only that but you cannot walk into some restaurants/bars if you are not 21 after a certain hour.

Its BS, plain and simple.

Just as well I don't live in the land of the free then.  

Here it's perfectly legal for a kid to be in the bar. They're not allowed to drink alcohol or be in there after 8 or 9 at night but other wise they can sit and have a coke with their mates, parents, dog, whatever.

I don't know what their game was but they made us not want to go back and I haven't since. Cheap drinks or not, I won't tolerate being shown up in front of the entire pub (which was pretty full as it was midday) just because I'm not old enough to drink alcohol. It'd be different if I was trying to buy alcohol, but I wasn't. I've only ever been served in a pub once and that was because my mates had got me so drunk by spiking my drinks I thought they wouldn't notice. Just as well they didn't ID me.  
Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
I've had that happen at a Pizza Hut in Kansas city (I was 20 at the time), apparently I didnt look 20..so the waiter actually asked me for ID to prove I am over 18. When the hell did someone have to be over 18 to order pizza?! Ridiculous.

As far as I know, never. I refuse to show ID now unless I have to (like for alcohol) because it's not their business how old I am if i'm not buying (or trying to) buy an age restricted product. I turn 18 in July, and I know i'm going to be ID'ed till I'm 30. I don't look 18 (I don't really look any age, I look older than 16 but definitely not old enough to drink). I remember when I was 14 I had a barbecue in a field near my house and we went to Asda (walmart) for the things. They let me buy a portable barbecue thingy that had that special firelighter paper in it, but not a set of plastic knives, forks and spoons because "there's a blade in it and you need to be 18 to purchase knives". IT'S PLASTIC! If I manage to stab and wound somebody with a plastic knife they need thicker skin, I'm sorry. That's pathetic.

I can't win.


User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

The Applebees here in my town has been busted before in the past for serving underage drinking and because of that had their liquor license taken away for a time, well about 2 years ago, a few months before my grandfather passed away at the age of 92, me and him stopped in there for lunch after taking him to a doctors appointment at the VA. He ordered a Coke and I ordered a Coors Light, and the waitress asked for my ID and my 92 year old grandfathers ID because he was sitting at a table where an alcoholic beverage would be. My exact words to the waitress were "are you fucking kidding me?" She walked away to get her manager as I guess she did not like my question, he comes over and says it is State Law, for which I told him, no there is currently nothing in the books about ID'ing every single person whether they are drinking or not in the State of Maryland. He then explained that due to them getting busted, the owner required everybody, all the time get checked. So I showed him my ID (I was 31 at the time) and told him that he did not need to see my grandfathers ID as he was not drinking and was obviously over the age of 21 and to go get my beer. He did and my grandfather had a good laugh that day over the ordeal.

Rob

Just a FYI, they still card all ages up there.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
What I'd like to know ... why 39 1/2?

It's a marketing thing. Nothing more. It's just Red Robin being quirky.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 6):
That is just wrong.

Why? Booze comes in colorful bottles, kids like colorful stuff. Its not like she's asking for the booze.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4568 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Thread starter):
but for a company (Red Robin) to make it their policy to ID someone under the age of 39 1/2 has seriously got some issues going on.

Red Robin has been doing that for years here in the U.S. They started doing that 39 1/2 thing after I left the company over 10 years ago. Why they are doing this, I don't know. It is a PITA. It is silly.

I even see them asking for ID from folks who are 55+ years old. I think they just want to know who you are in case something gets out of hand when you hit the legal limit to drive or if a fight breaks out.

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 8):
Here it's perfectly legal for a kid to be in the bar.

Wisconsin allows that with a parent/guardian who is over 21.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 10):
It's a marketing thing.

If it is a marketing thing, then they are doing a pretty bad job at it. It just looks silly in a negative light. I don't need to see the huge buttons that dwarf their name tag that says 39 1/2 in freaky colors. WTF?!



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User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2295 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

There are some places that require proof of age from everybody to purchase alcohol. I've been checked at the late Shea Stadium in NYC, at age 45, because everyone needs to show ID. We were in Harry Carey's restaurant in MDW, waiting for a flight home on a business trip - everyone needed to show ID, including the 55 year old, white haired gentleman in our group. It's probably easier that way from an enforcement standpoint. There is no "well, I thought he looked old enough" decisions for the clerk/server to make, no arguments about "why did I have to show ID when my friends didn't" and less chance of getting caught by law enforcement for selling to underage patrons.

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
I've had that happen at a Pizza Hut in Kansas city (I was 20 at the time), apparently I didnt look 20..so the waiter actually asked me for ID to prove I am over 18. When the hell did someone have to be over 18 to order pizza?!

I can't speak to that particular shop, and I don't know the circumstances, but some places (Dave & Busters is one that comes to mind) don't allow unaccompanied minors after a certain time (10pm or so) so they may have such a policy.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4532 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 11):
If it is a marketing thing, then they are doing a pretty bad job at it. It just looks silly in a negative light. I don't need to see the huge buttons that dwarf their name tag that says 39 1/2 in freaky colors. WTF?!

Does a button that says they card really that big of a deal? I frankly could give a dam.



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User currently offlineLufthansa411 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

When I was 19, I was driving from Boston with my mom to my parents house in NY. At the time my mom was 58. We stopped at a TGI Fridays for dinner, and my mom ordered a glass of wine, while I ordered a sparkling water. My mom was carded by the waitress because according to the waitress, "she looked like she could be under 21". Now, I know my mom looks younger than 58, but she definitely does not look younger than 40 maybe 50. When my mom asked whether she was serious, see said she was, and said my mom should take it as a compliment.

Needless to say my mom didn't, and asked to see the manager. After a conversation with the manager, my mother's meal was comped, and we were offered an apology by the waitress. In the words of my mom, "When you get to a certain age, you value being respected for you age, and it becomes insulting to be told you look like you are a third of your age." I couldn't agree more.

Alcohol restrictions are just bogus. If they were carding me, it would have been one thing. But to card my almost 60 year old mother is quite another. Especially when there was no policy etc. stating that they do, just an overzealous waitress.



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User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6074 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4526 times:
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Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 4):
In the land of the free, you cannot walk into alot of liquor stores unless you are 21. And not only that but you cannot walk into some restaurants/bars if you are not 21 after a certain hour.

Depends on the state. I see kids in the bars all the time in some states. It also depends where you are too. In Chicago you have a bunch law and order types who would never allow a kid in a bar, even with mom and dad. I have been to bars in small southern Illinois towns and have seen teens drinking. It really depends if the locals really care or not.

I drank in bars in Pennsylvania when I was underage, with my dad, and nobody cared.

At least until 2001 you only had to be 19 to get into a bar in Illinois. A lot of bars required 21 as they would not have to worry about their employees serving minors.

There is bar by my work, in Michigan, that has great burgers. I know a lot of the under 21 crowd goes there to eat, because it is good and cheap. They can be in the bar all they want as long as they don't sit at the bar.

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
I've had that happen at a Pizza Hut in Kansas city (I was 20 at the time), apparently I didnt look 20..so the waiter actually asked me for ID to prove I am over 18. When the hell did someone have to be over 18 to order pizza?! Ridiculous.

Maybe, maybe not. They may have a rule about too many minors in the place because of problems like skipping out on the bill. A lot of the McDonald's in Detroit enforce a 20 minute rule. You get 20 minutes to eat and then get out. I have never been bothered by it and neither has anyone else who is actually eating. It is there to keep bums and trouble making kids out. I used to work at a urban high school next to a McD's. They hated when school got out because our kids would flood the place, order little, and leave the place a wreck.


A lot of places want to keep the kids out because customers don't want them there. I really don't care to drink in a place with a bunch of noisey and know it all young people. I'm past that point now and I just want to get drunk in peace.

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
On one occasion the store clerk himself looked under 18..and he is asking me for ID so that I can buy beer.

Good thing he asked. If he didn't ask he could have been fired or ticketed. He was doing his job.
If the clerk was under age to sell beer he would have had to have another clerk ring it up. That happens to me from time to time. No big deal.

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 2):
in Florida my dad was ID'ed at the age of 37 for a piss... I mean budweiser. Political correctness gone insane.

That is nothing. My dad and I were both carded at Buffalo Wild Wings, I'm 34 and he is 61! We didn't make a big deal out of it, we showed the waitress our IDs and proceeded to drink.

Really, why do you all really care about being IDed? If I had a job were I could be prosecuted and fired for selling to under age people I would card everyone just to be sure. I would rather have you be pissed than be in front of a judge or out of a job. You should have your ID on you to begin with and if you are paying by credit/debit card I damn sure want to be carded so I know that they don't let any ole' person use any credit card.

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 9):
He then explained that due to them getting busted, the owner required everybody, all the time get checked

That happens all the time.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4508 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 13):
Does a button that says they card really that big of a deal?

To me, yes. It is a huge button and turn-off. I don't need to be hassled by restaurant folks going after me and my adult friends with a made-up law. I am there to give them my business and relax. The law is 21. Not 39 1/2.

My dad is 60+ years old. He still gets carded at Red Robin. See the problem here??

This is why I have not gone to a Red Robin in a quite awhile now because of that. It is getting out of hand.



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User currently offlinevarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Thread starter):

I'm sure there are people out there who look younger than they really are, any by all means, ID them. But to actually get employees to check for ID of someone who is twice the legal drinking age? WTF?

I am for ID checks when it comes to purchasing alcohol, but enough is enough. A few years back, during the 4th of July Weekend, this teenager cashier at Waldbaums demanded to see my ID. I was, 35 y/o that day. I refused to show and demanded to see a manager.

So here comes the manager. After all the explanation from the cashier, Mr Manager took his side and wold not let me buy (a six pack), unless i'd produced my ID Well, i refused to show them my ID and left a full shopping cart and walked away.
Yes, i wasn't buying just a six pack.
Oh yeah, i went to Shop RIte. But nobody there asked me for my ID.


User currently onlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2042 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4412 times:

Last time I was carded was when I was 32 and attempting to buy non-alcoholic sparkling wine for a New Years party with two pregnant women in Memphis, TN. I had left my passport at the house, and had to double back.   Didn't think much of TN in general.

In Florida I haven't been bothered since... probably since I turned about 18, maybe a little earlier. Only problem was 2 1/2 years ago, trying to buy a six pack of beer at Publix. I had forgotten my wallet, but had my passport. But they wouldn't allow my 18-yr-old brother to pay. We had to walk out of the store, he gave me the cash, I walked back in, and bought the bottles. Genius alert!!



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

Quoting varigb707 (Reply 17):
cashier at Waldbaums

Ok, completely off topic. But they still have Waldbaums? Holy crap. We haven't had those here for like 10-15 years.... Waldbaums Foodmart... miss that store.



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User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6074 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4387 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 16):
This is why I have not gone to a Red Robin in a quite awhile now because of that

I don't go there because I don't like stupid chain resturants.

Quoting varigb707 (Reply 17):
So here comes the manager. After all the explanation from the cashier, Mr Manager took his side and wold not let me buy (a six pack), unless i'd produced my ID Well, i refused to show them my ID and left a full shopping cart and walked away.
Yes, i wasn't buying just a six pack.
Oh yeah, i went to Shop RIte. But nobody there asked me for my ID.

You wasted all that time and you proved nothing. That clerk probably assumed you weren't 21 because you got so pissed off. You already had your wallet out to pay for your stuff so you already had your ID handy.

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 18):
Last time I was carded was when I was 32 and attempting to buy non-alcoholic sparkling wine for a New Years party with two pregnant women in Memphis, TN

Around these parts Some stores won't sell spray paint to people under 18 (kids huff it). That took me off guard when a local hardware store asked for ID to buy paint. I showed the clerk my ID (I was 28) and that was that. Big F'in deal.



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User currently offlinembmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4351 times:

I got ID'd last week for purchasing a neti pot in a grocery store!

User currently offlineBluefly From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4336 times:

I work at a pharmacy in NY and our company policy is to I.D. anyone who reasonably appears to be under the age of 30. So, if you look like you are 25, but you are 35, you will need to show your I.D. It's risky if a cashier does not ask for an I.D. In NY the police will actually hire underage individuals, or very young looking adults, to go into a store/bar/restaurant to try and buy alcohol or cigarettes. If the "sting" operator is not asked to show an I.D., the seller of the alcohol, such as the cashier, can actually be fined or even arrested, as well as the holder of the liquor license being fined.

We are also required to I.D. any individuals that approach the counter with the purchaser of the alcohol. So, if two young men approach the counter, one carrying a case of beer, they will BOTH need to show valid I.D. The reason for this being, the buyer could be buying the alcohol for the possibly underage person with him. I have seen this happen before, where a teenager who was probably17 came in the store with an older man, and actually pointed to the beer he wanted. Obvious lesson, if you are buying alcohol for a minor, DO NOT bring them in the store with you (people are just stupid)! However, it obviously would not be necessary for a young child to show an I.D. if their parent is buying alcohol, UNLESS the child places the alcohol on the counter themselves. Then it can be assumed that the child is the purchaser of the alcohol, and the state could view that as selling alcohol to a minor. This is also true if the child carries the alcohol to, places the alcohol in, or holds the alcohol in the car.

When I first started working at the pharmacy, a cashier was actually taken out of the store in handcuffs for selling alcohol to a minor of a "sting" operation. So, if you are asked to show an I.D., JUST DO IT! Don't ask questions. The cashier is doing their job and protecting their own a**.


User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13032 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

If a chain or individual invests $100k's to millions in a site, setting it up, for a license, advertising and to keep people working, they have a need to protect that investment. Their liability insurers may be behind the ID All requirement so to keep that insuance and reduce claims. Sell to a minor, especially if they drive and get caught DUI or kill someone in a DUI accident and you will face massive lawsuits they will ruin you.

I also think by ID'ing all, it may show if the person is already intoxicated and should not be served.

I don't like how In some states and licenced businesses, they have readers for the Drivers' licenses to verify the info on it. That info can be stored and misused for marketing to some bouncer getting the home address of a hot woman.

I used to work in a full liquor store in New Jersey back in 1976-77 when the age was 18. (I was about 22-23 at the time). I was very strict as to requiring ID although I suspect I wasn't perfect. There were a number of clues when someone was under 18 and trying to buy. I know a few times I ID's people in their 30's but after a while you learn to not to do that. Last year under current owners that store got shut down for several months and were even threatened the license taken back by the town due to being caught 3 times selling to minors.

Still, it is silly that we trust 18-19 year olds to drive, to own and use a gun, serve in the military, sign most contracts, go away to College yet they cannot drink. But I guess that is due to too many in the past abusing the opportunity to drink and that too many that age in the USA own or have access to cars and tended to get into DUI accidents.


User currently offlinevarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4242 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 20):
You already had your wallet out to pay for your stuff so you already had your ID handy.

didn't have my wallet out. didn't waste my time either.


25 okees : I don't really see the problem with showing ID. It's much easier than actually arguing with the staff, and potentially getting pissed off and ruining
26 Post contains images AirframeAS : Therein lies the problem. There is no such thing as "reasonably appears". I am not buying that logic. That is profiling. You have GOT to be kidding m
27 Post contains images ACDC8 : Our liquor laws are the greatest ... - You can order a drink in a restaurant but you have to order food. Minors are allowed to enter restaurants. - Y
28 yodobashi : Several of my extended family easily look old enough to drink legally but in fact they are only 17 .... the long and short of it is that folks livelih
29 Post contains links and images ajd1992 : Because sometimes it's ridiculous. I mean if you're obviously older than 18 (or 19 or 21 or however old the age is where ever you are) then what's th
30 stratosphere : Well I buy beer every week at the same supermarket now even though I get irritated at getting carded at 46 I do it because I do understand that they
31 AirframeAS : That is why they have what's called "age brackets". Because you do not look like you are 25. Again, age bracket. Probably because they had someone wh
32 LTU932 : Simple: Launch national ID cards, and give them most of the safety features a passport has (including making them machine readable). The German ID ca
33 Yellowstone : Or maybe the 16-year old boy doesn't want to pay the $3000 fine associated with selling alcohol to someone underage. (Yes, that's the fine in CA, and
34 FRAspotter : True... In Texas I've walked into a Spec's liquor store with my friend who was 18 at the time while I was 22. There was nothing stopping my friend fr
35 Growly150 : I didn't read all the replies but here's my story. I'm a server in a college town in Colorado. It is not a chain. We don't have a fule stating "card u
36 Boeing744 : This seems to be a phenomenon specific to BC lately. I am from BC but now live in Ontario. I am 18 and let me tell you - it is never a problem to get
37 AirframeAS : 16 year old's don't understand how much money that would be and the ramifications of his/her actions would ensue later on in life. This is the type o
38 falstaff : That happened to my friend's dad in Missouri. He retired and took a part time job at a local grocery store. The local police sent in "older looking"
39 Post contains images WildcatYXU : It may be, but it pays the bills Then don't try it at YYZ's T1. I was carded there couple of months ago. I'm 44...
40 Post contains images Boeing744 : That's silly, but obviously everyone who is flying should have ID on them. It doesn't mean it's not disrespectful though... Even when I DO get carded
41 falstaff : I'll give you guys a story that did upset me regarding being IDed. In 1998 (I was 22) I was buying beer at a gas station in Eureka, Missouri and I was
42 Boeing744 : Yikes... I've heard stories about small-town America... But that's just ridiculous.
43 falstaff : That really isn't small town... Eureka is a far western suburb of St. Louis. I also had a similar incident happen when I was 18 and wanted to buy a p
44 Post contains images YVRLTN : The Liquor Depot in Richmond sucks... they have a guy on the door and he wants TWO pieces of ID before he even lets you in. I can sort of understand t
45 melpax : The state govenments here occasionaly hire teenagers under 18 to try to buy cigarettes without ID. The store owners are the ones who get fined, not th
46 kevinl1011 : Happened to me at Angels stadium and I didn't have my ID. Luckily, my 23 year old daughter was with me and she had her ID. It was wierd having my dau
47 AirframeAS : That is actually on DatelineNBC with Chris Matthews.
48 N1120A : I totally agree with you. That said, I see that far less in Canada than I do in the States. Used to happen a lot in CA, before ID technology in other
49 pilotsmoe : In NJ , you have to be 18 to sell alcohol or work on a casino floor.
50 andz : A few years ago I was in a bar in ORD and ordered a beer. The barman asked me for ID and when I gave him an incredulous look he pointed at a sign that
51 CanadianDC10 : I am the grammar police. It's spelt with an a, not an e. Sorry, I had to. I am literally a grammar and spelling Nazi. Anyway, back to the topic. I'm
52 Post contains images ajd1992 : They ID everybody that looks remotely like they might still be in their 20's, never mind their teens. The UK has become very strict about ID now - my
53 Post contains images TSS : Indeed! Anyone who cards me gets a polite "Thank you", mainly because I looked 25 when I was 15 and have looked at least ten years older than I actua
54 CanadianDC10 : hahaha dammit! That was just a slip of the fingers on the keyboard, I swear!
55 Post contains images ACDC8 : Exactly! When you reach a certain age, you've acheived a certain level of entitlment and I would like to think a bit of respect. You've grown up, bec
56 CanadianDC10 : Yeah, I don't mind being ID'd at all at my age. They're just doing their job.
57 seb146 : There is just something that seems wrong to me about taking a small child to a liquor store. I like the looks of some of the bottles, too, and I comm
58 N1120A : Most states say you have to be 18 to serve alcohol, but 21 to pour.
59 ACDC8 : Being European myself, thats one North American mindset I've never understood. Being used to buy any type of alcohol at every gas station or grocery
60 CanadianDC10 : Alcohol can be extremely dangerous and so destructive. I think it is great that it's so regulated and taxed here in Canada. There is a reason for tha
61 ACDC8 : The key word being can There's no problem having regulation and taxes on alcohol but there's also a point where it starts to become overzealous. Alco
62 CanadianDC10 : Let me correct myself: Alcohol IS extremely dangerous and destructive.
63 ACDC8 : Proof please? Alcohol CAN be extremely dangerous and destructive depedning on the person using/abusing it but the reality of the matter is that the m
64 CanadianDC10 : And there are good reasons for this. The things that alcohol make people do and how it makes people act is the main reason. So what if you're only ha
65 CanadianDC10 : Could you be paitient and just wait for my proof? Gosh... I posted my next response less than 15 minutes later.[Edited 2010-04-02 16:06:52]
66 CanadianDC10 : No, it IS. It always has the potential to do so.
67 Post contains images DeltaRules : My 62 year old mom was IDed at a Publix in Florida when buying beer a couple weeks ago. 39 1/2 is nothing.
68 Post contains images ACDC8 : There are good reasons for having regulations in place, but I'm still failing to see how "hiding" alcohol to only the eyes of 19+ and then even IDing
69 Post contains images ajd1992 : I couldn't be bothered quoting all the "is and can" crap but all I'll say Is this - alcohol affects different people in different ways. It makes my da
70 CanadianDC10 : When I said accidents, I didn't say VEHICULAR accidents. I mean any accidents in general. Limiting alcohol sales to 19+ probably has to do with matur
71 Post contains links ACDC8 : Such as? Falling down stairs? Drowning? I'm pretty sure its a safe bet that most alcohol related accidents are vehicular and, as much of a shock this
72 vhqpa : I don't sell alcohol but I do sell Tobacco and every state has different laws, In Queensland the penalty is the Employee gets fined about $2000? (and
73 Post contains images Yellowstone : But you don't even have to be 18 to clean the half-finished pitcher of beer off the table and take it to the back to "wash" it...
74 WildcatYXU : As a matter of fact, it doesn't. The percentage of alcohol related vehicular accidents is staggering. I dare to guess that wider availability would b
75 andz : Hey, spelling Nazi, how many slips of the fingers are you allowing yourself?
76 Bluefly : Just because it says in my profile "16 to 20" does not automatically mean I'm 16....besides are you not profiling me by age: Yes, 16-year-old's can u
77 CanadianDC10 : hahah two too many!
78 Post contains images AirframeAS : Who said I was looking at your profile? We are not talking about you. The world does not revolve around Bluefly. I disagree. Go to any supermarket. Y
79 Post contains images ACDC8 : Are you serious? I thought BC was bad .... yikes! At least you got the right "too"
80 Post contains images CanadianDC10 : hahah I had to think long and hard about that one before I posted this time.
81 HorizonGirl : The same thing happened to me about a week ago, first time because I actually didn't have ID, second time I did but they kicked me out promptly when
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