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Mexicans Flee For Their Lives Into Texas  
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

It seems the drug war violence along the US/Mexico boarder has reached a new level. Drug cartels have been taking over the small Mexican town of El Porvenir, located about four miles from the Texas border town of Fort Hancock, TX, or at least have it under seige. The drug loards have demanded some 5,000 pesos from parents to not kill thier children in school.

That is discusting.

Normally I am against letting illegal aliens stay in the US. But this is different, these people have a legitiment fear for their lives, and if they can find protection in Fort Hancock, TX, then we need to let them stay until the danger in their home town is taken care of by the Mexican Government.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/31...n-border-braces-cartel-gun-battle/

We need to protect these people as they come into the US to escape the drug cartels. If that means the TX National Guard shooting into Mexico at the drug lords chasing these people, then so be it. These drug cartels are scum.

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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

The drug war here is getting very much out of control.


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17080 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1689 times:

Quoting captaink (Reply 1):
The drug war here is getting very much out of control.

Seems so from all the news coming in about it.



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17672 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1688 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Thread starter):
We need to protect these people as they come into the US to escape the drug cartels. If that means the TX National Guard shooting into Mexico at the drug lords chasing these people, then so be it. These drug cartels are scum.

Part of the problem is the guns flowing into Mexico are coming from the US, but restricting them in any way would infrince on our God-given right to assault rifles http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...0328?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Thread starter):
Normally I am against letting illegal aliens stay in the US. But this is different, these people have a legitiment fear for their lives, and if they can find protection in Fort Hancock, TX, then we need to let them stay until the danger in their home town is taken care of by the Mexican Government.

I think that these people can definitely be granted asylum.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Thread starter):
If that means the TX National Guard shooting into Mexico at the drug lords chasing these people, then so be it. These drug cartels are scum.

I think that Texans would have no problem doing that. Don't Mess with Texas isn't just a saying.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
Part of the problem is the guns flowing into Mexico are coming from the US, but restricting them in any way would infrince on our God-given right to assault rifles http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...pNews

Did you bother to read your own link?

"Mexico says 90 percent of the weapons used by drug gangs are bought in the United States, often legally."

That means the guns shipped to Mexico from the US were bought (or stolen) illegally in the US. The fact that US citizens can legally own a gun has nothing to do with the Mexican drug cartels. Their own drug dealers here in the US are supplying some of the guns, probibly as payment for the drugs. So any guns flowing from the Us into Mexico were obtained through illegal means. That is not a Congressional problem, that is a law enforcement problem.

"They (U.S. officials) say that they are facing strong opposition and there is powerful lobbies in the Congress in order to change that situation," Calderon said in a pre-taped interview in Mexico City."

That is a lie. Mexican President Calderon and his currupt administration are the problem, and the citizens of Mexico are paying for his curruption and incompentence in "fighting" the drug cartels. These are common criminals they are "fighting". Are you telling me the Mexican Military Forces combinbed with the Fedral Police Forces and local Police cannot easily defeat these criminal thugs?

Maybe we should lend Mexico one or two divisions of US Marines?


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1655 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):

Maybe we should lend Mexico one or two divisions of US Marines?

That would be a very liberal thing to do.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):

Maybe we should lend Mexico one or two divisions of US Marines?

That would be a very liberal thing to do.

Normally I would be offended to be called a liberal, but here it just feels different, doesn't it?


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17672 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
Did you bother to read your own link?

Yes...as you quoted...

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
"Mexico says 90 percent of the weapons used by drug gangs are bought in the United States, often legally."

...how is that not part of the problem?

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
Are you telling me the Mexican Military Forces combinbed with the Fedral Police Forces and local Police cannot easily defeat these criminal thugs?

Yes. Without a doubt. I don't think the US government could do much better either. As long as the US keeps putting stuff up their nose, there will be a powerful profit motive to continue the illicit drug trade. Even if Mexico "defeats" these criminals, which I doubt will ever happen, they'll just move to a different route.



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User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
That means the guns shipped to Mexico from the US were bought (or stolen) illegally in the US.

Maybe you misread the article. Emphasis mine...

"Mexico says 90 percent of the weapons used by drug gangs are bought in the United States, often legally."



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12639 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1615 times:
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War On Terror - Mexico's Drug Cartels (by fxramper Mar 24 2010 in Non Aviation)

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