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Gordon Brown To Call UK Election - May 6th  
User currently offlineseansasLCY From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2007, 805 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7708 times:

So It looks like Gordon Brown will finally call the UK general election. The date - May 6th.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8603591.stm

Who will you be voting for or who would you vote for if you could vote in the UK?

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User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 611 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7708 times:

This will be my first time I will be voting in the national elections and I dont know who I will be voting for. I dont like any of them and they're all as bad as eachother in my eyes.

Most of their policies are the similar, higher taxes and spending cuts. I've heard it all before and I really don't believe anything that comes out of their mouths!

Matt


User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7701 times:

Damn it, I'm missing it by 2 months. I'm 18 in July.

All I do know is this - Brown will not be getting back in. I'd rather have a dead dog as PM than him.


User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 2984 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7691 times:

In the last election, my cinstituency returned Labour MP Charles Clarke, 2nd was Lib Dem, 3rd Tory.
Given that the Tories are so against what I stand for, I'd probably vote Labour in order to keep them out more than my usual Liberal. I guess it depends on the mood of the day - especially as where I am, people against Labour should vote Liberal as their protet vote... So for me a red / yellow toss up.

signol



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User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7651 times:

I'll be voting lib dems just to try and break the duopoly.

I don't think it'll make any difference who gets in, we're screwed either way. But I suspect it will be a Conservative hung parliament.


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12321 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7648 times:

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 4):
Conservative hung parliament.

Kind of an oxymoron, but I know what you mean ... Tories the largest party, but not enough to form a govt on their own.

I think we could see a hung parliament, but the "first past the post" system throws up a lot of difficulties. I do think however that Nick Clegg has performed well so far - and particularly, Vince Cable. I think he is by far the most competent of the potential chancellors. George Osborne seems way out of his depth.

Personally, if I had a vote, I'd do anything to keep the Tories out. I really do not like Cameron; fairly or unfairly, the phrase "hooray Henry" always jumps to mind when I think of him.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26488 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7645 times:

Quoting seansasLCY (Thread starter):
Who will you be voting for or who would you vote for if you could vote in the UK?

I have registered as an overseas voter and will take the chance to fly over for the day and vote before visiting friends. I will be voting Conservative like I have always done. Hopefully we can get these current clowns out before its too late.

There are a few issues I am concerned about with regards some Conservative policies but they out weigh the benefits of a Conservative government.



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User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7644 times:

I too do not like Cameron and i think this is the case for a lot of people. One of the things which irks me about him is only seems to preach why we shouldn't vote Labour and not why we should vote Conservative.

But even still he doesn't have to do a lot to get in.


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5909 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7643 times:

For what it's worth, the BBC is providing a live stream of their coverage of todays events - which works outside the UK for once  : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8604326.stm

EDIT: In my opinion, this one is the Tories' to lose. Mind you, a few months ago, David Cameron could have come out as the spawn of Satan, and still win an election, so Labour have done well to come back from a then hopeless situation.

[Edited 2010-04-06 02:19:55]

User currently offlineDanTaylor2006 From UK - England, joined Feb 2006, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7631 times:

This will be my first vote in the general election, and only my second vote to date (my very first vote was for the European parliament not so long ago). I'll be voting Lib Dem, because I think Labour and Conservatives are both as bad as each other. So, essentially, I'm using my vote to protest against both the main parties.... saying that, Nick Clegg is the MP for my constituency when I'm at Uni, and he represents us students fairly well, so I have some respect for him for that reason.


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User currently offlineoffloaded From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 855 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7629 times:

Voted Conservative as in last 2 elections before losing my right to vote (expat more than 15 yrs) but I can't stand Cameron. However, going back some years when I had a lot of dealings with the European Commission, I changed from pro-EU to anti-EU for reasons I'm not getting into in this thread (I now believe the EU to be utterly irredeemable) so if I could still it would likely be UKIP.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26488 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7613 times:

Quoting offloaded (Reply 10):
Voted Conservative as in last 2 elections before losing my right to vote (expat more than 15 yrs) but I can't stand Cameron.

Are you sure you lost it? On the form I filled out it says ''as long as you were registered to vote in the UK within the last 15 years''. I presumed you could keep applying as long as you have done so within the last 15 years.



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User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7597 times:

I'll be voting conservative. Labour have been in power for 13 miserable years and whether they are as bad as each other, the fact remains we have to give the conservatives a chance. It makes me laugh Gordon Brown is saying he will tackle anti social behaviour and the economy, but they said that 5 years ago and nothing has happened. Our judicial system is a joke, the offender gets all the rights and the sentances getting handed out are ridiculous. 2 years for peadophiles and 6 months for robbery is disgraceful. Both parties are saying they will tackle this but Labour has said it before so time to give the conservatives a chance. Also, I can't stand Brown, he has the personality of a tree and looks scruffy. Imagine another 5 years of this guy: going off the last 5 years anti social behaviour will rise with no deterrent and immigration out of control. The short sighted government is so inept with immigration. The fact that these people travel all the way through Europe to the channel tunnel then risk their life hanging onto a train just to get over here doesn't ring alarm bells in Westminster is testiment to how cushy our society is. Immigration needs to be selective, people should enter with the right skills or with a willing to work.


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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7581 times:

Quoting seansasLCY (Thread starter):
Who will you be voting for or who would you vote for if you could vote in the UK?

If the UK had the Aus Fed system, I would vote 1. Lib Dems (keep my cousin happy!) and 2 Lab. But as it is not, the choice would be dependent on the electorate, no point in wasting a vote on Lab or Lib if it gave the seat to the Cons twats. Just see how you like another touch of the La Thatches now you have no industry, no oil and the city has ruined the joint!!

Aside from that everything else is going well.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26488 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7536 times:

Sky News have great coverage and local info :

news.sky.com Just enter your postcode and you get all your local info.



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User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4529 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7527 times:

Being an expat who doesn't contribute any more to British society, I feel morally disqualified to vote in any British elections. However what would be the point of me voting Liberal Democrat in order to try to break the UK's political duopoly? I've lived in Kensington and afterwards in Beaconsfield. Both are true-blue Conservatives. With the present political system you just cannot break the mold. At least here in NL - with its system of proportional representation - your vote stands for something. It's our turn on 9th June  


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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7355 times:

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 15):
However what would be the point of me voting Liberal Democrat in order to try to break the UK's political duopoly?

You could still do strategic voting to an extent, but that concept seems not to have entered the UK body politic.      


User currently offlinetropical77W From Canada, joined Dec 2009, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7310 times:

BNP BNP BNP.

but seriously though. Gordon Brown is damaged goods, in addition, his party has been in power for thirteen years. politics is cyclical: years in opposition tend to make the opposing party smell bad in the eyes of the public and there is a change again. Labour will see parliament again.

i heard that there will be leaders debates for the first time? if they are anything like canadian or american debates, get ready for some mudslinging.

PS: i dont support the BNP in any way.


User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7302 times:

Quoting tropical77W (Reply 17):
Gordon Brown is damaged goods, in addition, his party has been in power for thirteen years.

There are times when the fire really is worse than the frying pan. Why do you think Holy Tony won his last election?


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26488 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7260 times:

Quoting tropical77W (Reply 17):
PS: i dont support the BNP in any way.

Hopefully the Conservatives will win and bring in policies that will stop people feeling the need to vote BNP. Labour have given BNP and UKIP thousands of votes due to their in actions.



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User currently offlineEISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1509 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7254 times:

Firstly, I don't have a vote.

Secondly, I think Labour is tired and weak. GB needs to go. They need a term on the side lines.
That said, I'm no Tory. In fact, I wouldn't vote Tory. I don't like Cameron, and I don't like his people. Plus it doesn't help that they are being supported by 'The Sun', and that their head of PR is a former Red Head tabloid editor.

I find that both Labour and Tory are are very childish in their campaign ads.

I would vote Lib Dems. Break the duopoly.

Labour needs another do over. New faces, new ideas, real action.

I think that any party should last a max of two terms, after that they just become limp and stale.

It'll be a hung parliament with the Tories being the biggest party. Let them have it for five years, have Labour fix themselves, and then we'll see.

Here's hoping that the BNP and UKIP don't get anywhere near Westminister (I assume they have people running?).



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User currently offlineFlyingfox27 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7250 times:

Lets vote for Airliners.net!................   oh only if we could lol!

I am gonna vote for Lib Dems because i dont like Camerons idea of bring back Fox Hunting and stop LHR expansion and generally someone who cycles along ignoring roadsigns and pedestrians and hugs hoodies and dosent lock his bike, is not a very good role model.

Definatly do not vote BNP, they are too racist.

But as they say, let the best man/party win! Will we continue with Labour since 1997? who knows!


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26488 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7219 times:

Quoting Flyingfox27 (Reply 21):
Lets vote for Airliners.net!................   oh only if we could lol!

Oh nooo, put it that way I will vote Labour     



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User currently offlineTristarAtLCA From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7210 times:

Quoting Baroque (Reply 18):
There are times when the fire really is worse than the frying pan

This will be my fifth eligible election and I cannot recall a poorer decision to be made. The choice between a poorly led clapped out government, a Tory leader so unconvincing I'm not sure I would believe him if he told me his name and an empty shirt in Clegg.

Pan? Fire? Is there a difference?



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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7136 times:

Quoting TristarAtLCA (Reply 23):
The choice between a poorly led clapped out government, a Tory leader so unconvincing I'm not sure I would believe him if he told me his name and an empty shirt in Clegg.

Pan? Fire? Is there a difference?

Sounds like a man after my own very poorly informed heart and I am sure based on better evidence. I guess in the end I would try to vote against returning Cameron and between Clegg and Brown it would depend upon the electorate. If a possibility of a Lib Dem win, vote for them, but otherwise for Lab.

You really don't know how satisfying it is to vote in our preferential elections. I even spend the time to do the below the line voting for our Senate so I can ensure my pet hates are at the bottom of the list.

Interesting point there and in an odd way not off topic, is that when you vote that way, you cannot be certain where your vote DOES end up but you can be certain where it does not. An ALP numbers man once looked into it for me and apparently they literally (physicaly) pile up votes to fill our senate quotas and your vote by chance could end in in a major party "pile" and never go to lower preferences. So in an odd sort of way it becomes a bit like the UK where you have not very much control - unless you are following the herd!!!


25 Post contains images nighthawk : SNP For the win
26 Post contains images noelg : Like a lot of people, I am torn in this election, and torn 3 ways at the moment. I have always voted Labour, and did faithfully under Tony Blair. But
27 Ltbewr : You guys are lucky, your elections last only about a month, not many months, and over 1 year for major elections here in the USA along with a lot fewe
28 BigOrange : Me too as long as I can get someone to witness my signature on the overseas voter registration form!
29 Baroque : What do you have to have for a witness? I needed to vote absentee in Bandung at one time and it took a while to find an Aus reg voter to do the honou
30 GDB : What a choice, between Cyclops and Sunny D. I have to smile at all the 'country is going to the dogs' stuff though. How? For who? It's just all my lif
31 SpeedBirdA380 : Exactly what I was thinking...... I have not decided yet who to vote for but it wont be for Labour. One thing I would like to say though is that I wi
32 GDB : True, as long though, that if the government ever lost of vote of confidence, an election would still be triggered whenever it was in the Parliament.
33 Post contains images AirStairs : I of course have no standing to vote, but to the extent I can opine, I would support Cameron. I try to follow British politics, and it seems plain tha
34 Post contains images oa260 : Yep and an independant Scotland so they can stop milking London
35 eric : I am not British but live in London and I am following this election with interest. Firstly, one of my friends works directly with one of the Tory MP'
36 TristarAtLCA : We (in the capital) elect the Mayor of London in a similar way (Supplementary voting). Of course we will not have that for government. FS Miliband wa
37 Baroque : I would like to say memory of what the Tories have done in the past, but that is unlikely to be true. So likely it is that the Cameron statements jus
38 oa260 : People said that about the Mayor of London Boris but since he has been in lots of things have been done for the good of Londoners.
39 Post contains images Baroque : Have to admit that seems to be true. Maybe they like being bonked.
40 Post contains images TristarAtLCA : I thought time was supposed to heal And I have found most people seem to forget Major was PM for seven years and still talk of Thatcher who was out n
41 GDB : Like what? None of those new buses, he seems to lose senior advisors, usually due to dubious reasons, with alarming regularity, his response to quest
42 Baroque : You mean they DO like being Bonked!!! I would like to think you are correct but fear you might not be. Then again, while the dangers were clear much
43 Post contains images oa260 : Yeah like waste money on crap .
44 GDB : Sometimes yes, they all do. But he also got a lot of useful stuff done too, in transport, allowing for the first few years of control freak behavior
45 oa260 : Here are just some of Boris Johnson's achievements:: 1. Frozen the Council Tax precept for two years running. After allowing for inflation this means
46 Post contains images cadet57 : Monster Raving Loony Party. FTW.
47 Baroque : How has decentralised power worked out as opposed to what ?Jones says about it. Sounds good, is it? Ah well, he is allowed the odd bon mot.
48 GDB : That's some collection of press releases oa260! But many of them, like unveiling statues and major completed projects, must have been in the works bef
49 Post contains links danfearn77 : Wow good job! I never thought your post was going to end! I love Boris Johnson, a funny and bright personality in politics. I just cant imagine keepi
50 oa260 : Too true both my parents are immigrants and came with the clothes on their back and worked their way up and paid their own way. If you have not paid
51 danfearn77 : Quite right. When I was in school an Asian boy joined our class. He couldn't speak a word of English but within months, with help from his mum and da
52 Baroque : Well yes, they should have been oil geologists, but even if they had been the damage was done pre-1995. Here are the UK daily production figures for
53 davehammer : I'm not really a Tory voter and wasn't convinced about the Boris for mayor strategy but I've been pleasantly surprised by how he's gone about the job
54 Baroque : Met many Etonians have we?
55 davehammer : In terms of the inverted snobbery I meant in the country as a whole. Granted many that go to the school don't do themselves any favours but I find th
56 GDB : I think one issue with Etonians, good, bad or indifferent, is this system of education imparts great confidence in them. Regardless of talent, on some
57 oa260 : Personal politics aside I think 13 years for one party is too long and they get ''comfortable'' and cocky like this current government are. They need
58 Post contains links and images fruitbat : Interesting how many on here say they will vote Lib Dem when they are likely to have the following in their Manifesto: ~ Opposing expansion at Heathro
59 Post contains links and images danfearn77 : These guys: http://www.loonyparty.com/index.php?page=manifestoproposals-1 You ave just got to read their manifesto!
60 Post contains links fruitbat : Told you so..... Quote: "The Tories, who are also keen to see the corporation's governing body scrapped and the powers of media regulator Ofcom curta
61 TristarAtLCA : To the devil? Really? One can just wonder what Blair gave Murdoch when the Sun backed him in '97 and Labour for the last 12 years. Or do you believe
62 GDB : One way of preventing any idea of giving even more power to that foreign, tax avoiding, hater of many British institutions-not just the BBC, media mon
63 TristarAtLCA : Murdoch switches to whoever it appears will win. Whether that is to have the influence this almighty prick believes he deserves or because his ego co
64 oa260 : I just think that some very nasty things were said about his background and person. He was even called a racist until someone pointed out his wife wa
65 GDB : I have never taken Boris as racist, as stated, his wife would not get BNP approval. A buffoon at times yes, a man more likely to put his foot in his m
66 Post contains images fruitbat : Not got a problem with any of this, I am just speculating if this is the thin end of the wedge and if we'll eventually see a substantial change in th
67 Post contains images TristarAtLCA : It seems every government that I can recall has talked of reforming the BBC in one way or another and yet it is still the BBC, at its core, that most
68 oa260 : First Sky News debate tonight live from Manchester
69 kaitak : The general consensus seems to be that Nick Clegg won that one; there is another next week, so let's hope he can sustain that; Brown came third and DC
70 ME AVN FAN : That Mr Cameron is the next Prime Minster of the U.K. is obvious. That him to be forced into a coalition with the Liberals would be nice as well. But
71 kaitak : Not really that obvious at all; a lot can happen between now and 6th May; there are more debates and lots of public engagements; it's one thing to be
72 fruitbat : 4 weeks ago i'd have agreed with you. Now it is anything but obvious. That would be Camerons worst nightmare as the Liberals are to the left of Labou
73 GDB : Was seemingly obvious, not so much now. Not just down to Clegg in a debate either, their lead had been dropping in large part, because as an election
74 TristarAtLCA : It will be interesting to see whether the Lib's policies stand up to more than the cursory look most people gave them prior to the leaders debate.
75 GDB : Clegg did miss a trick in last week's debate, (didn't expect Brown to pick up on it), when Cameron was going on about that '40 year old Black Man in P
76 Post contains images EISHN : I tell ya, Conservapedia really is chock a block with information these days I heard on Sky that a lot of people are saying (in polls) that they are
77 Post contains links oa260 : Mr Brown just made the biggest mistake of his campaign!! Brown's 'Bigot' Gaffe Caught On Microphone Gordon Brown has been caught out on microphone in
78 RJ111 : Well, that certainly was an unfortunate blunder for the Labour party today.
79 richm : Not a good move, but I don't think the media need to dwell on it. They should focus on more important aspects of the general election, but then it is
80 Post contains images TristarAtLCA : Thats wishful thinking Just reinforces my view that Brown is an odious toad, like some other politicians.
81 PlymSpotter : It is rather important actually. Do you really want the country to be represented by somebody who has that much contempt for those he's supposed to b
82 oa260 : Its on all the headlines tomorrow and blanket news coverage. I hate Brown but even I didnt think he had that much contempt for his followers. She was
83 Post contains links oly720man : Will anyone actually want to win the election? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10091952.stm A US economist has claimed that the governor of the Ba
84 Braybuddy : Why all the fuss over an honest remark which just happens to make him more human? If he thought the woman was bigoted, maybe she was. He even says it
85 Post contains images oa260 : It was the contempt he showed to one of his own voters ! Thats the point , a large % of Labour voters in middle England share the same concerns about
86 Post contains links oly720man : I guess Twitter is so named because of the twits it attracts. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi.../election_2010/england/8652724.stm A Labour candi
87 Post contains images PlymSpotter : I couldn't agree more. The next PM is going to incredibly unpopular though, whoever it is. This country needs some serious changes, especially to the
88 GDB : Knowing Brown's reputation for expletive ridden outbursts, those in his car afterwards got off lightly! Cameron has a reputation for being a total shi
89 Post contains images RJ111 : Yes because David Cameron is the bastion of honesty and would never say something in private not fit for public broadcast.
90 oa260 : 13 years of looney Labour has brought the country to a sad state of political correctness, laws that we dont need and a nanny state. If Labour get in
91 RJ111 : What does that have to do with the text you quoted? If you want to vote Conservatives then instead of advertising for them on this thread and reeling
92 Post contains images PlymSpotter : It doesn't need to be. My biggest fear isn't Labour getting reelected, it's the power struggle and squabbling which would take place if we have a hun
93 oa260 : Are all parties and their staunch supporters not advertising their preference in their blogs/websites/windows etc..? I must have missed something. Qu
94 RJ111 : There's no law against anything above, but the process of quoting someone, ignoring their point and simply speaking to them like a Tory campaigner, mi
95 oa260 : Yes they seem to be trying too hard not to say the wrong things, Id give them a chance though if it was a choice between them and Labour.
96 GDB : I'm not totally sure what I want, except not for either of the 'big two' getting a majority to allow them to rule unchallenged. We are in this economi
97 Post contains images PlymSpotter : I felt Cable came out on top of that debate actually; he certainly seemed to get the popular vote - his 'I saw it all coming, you should have listene
98 Post contains images imiakhtar : Bravo. Superb post! If I hear the Conservatives mention 'Big Society' one more time........... Lib Dems winning here. I'm in a bit of a mango pickle
99 Post contains images danfearn77 : The way the media put it is 'the next Government will be out of contention in future elections for a generation'. This boils down to the fact that wh
100 GDB : How is it that Major, in 1992, got a bigger share of the vote but only a 21 seat majority, while 5 years later, Blair got a smaller share but a 160 se
101 MasterBean : So the question is who to vote for. In Norths Wilts, either Conservative or Lib Dem will win, and since I don't like Mr Cameroon I think I'll vote Lib
102 Post contains links oa260 : There is only one thing to say in all this election campaign. Good for Mrs Duffy !! She is not voting but she has shown that a normal everyday citizen
103 qantas077 : real change would be to vote for the Liberal Democrats...
104 Post contains links seansasLCY : Real change is not voting for the Lib Dems. Nick Clegg and Vince Cable consistantly change their stance on issues and flip-flop. Clegg isn't differen
105 Post contains images PlymSpotter : If it's the same incident I'm thinking of, they got themselves into hot water over it by inadvertently canvassing the house of a Conservative candida
106 Post contains links GDB : I think one attraction for some with the Lib Dems, is that much of the press crapped themselves when the Clegg surge happened, all the really rotten p
107 MasterBean : GDP, I was sort of joking, and the fact the BNP aren't even standing in this area is a bit of a problem too. Anyhow, I'm thinking Lib Dem 'cos Cameron
108 danfearn77 : Quite right. Both Cameron and Clegg had a privileged upbringing. Infact Cleggs family is intensely wealthy. But personally i think thats by the by no
109 Post contains images PlymSpotter : I have no time for the people who spend all day complaining about the main parties, about politics in general, and then avidly maintain that they wil
110 GDB : Good to hear Master Bean, sorry for the media influenced typo! There are some Lib Dem policies I disagree with or question on practicality, that's als
111 Post contains links and images fruitbat : Well under "looney Labour" my kids have attended local state schools with new classrooms and new classroom assistants, they have never been in a clas
112 Post contains images PlymSpotter : It depends quite how you do it. I once saw a ballot paper - non political - on which the voter had described exactly the reasons why they weren't vot
113 GDB : Fruitbat, I get where you are coming from on the positives of Labour's social/economic policies, the print media, largely run by tax exiled-if even Br
114 Post contains images shamrock604 : I couldnt have said it better, except perhaps to say it was dreamed up in 5 places, the fifth being in Chicago, home of Milton Friedman, whose free m
115 Post contains links oly720man : What is already floating around the financial market is http://burningourmoney.blogspot.com/ As we can see, with the single exception of Japan, we in
116 fruitbat : Or in reality a blend of all three plus other tax rises to make up the £7k - cos that's what's going to have to happen. Your vote will just determin
117 MasterBean : The question is should I vote for James Gray since he did sleep with another woman while his wife was in hospital with cancer. Just throwing this into
118 Post contains images PlymSpotter : It's no excuse, but she wasn't hospitalised, and it started before she was diagnosed if I recall rightly. Really it begs the much broader question of
119 GDB : My MP, John McDonnell, circulated a leaflet all about his opposition to a new LHR, going as far back as 1982 (with pictures and everything!) Does not
120 OA260 : Happy Voting tomorrow .... What time can we expect the first results at?
121 fruitbat : Polls close at 10pm, first exit polls at 10.05ish, first result should be before 11pm....then a lull, then from about 1am onwards it starts, we'll kno
122 474218 : Have you been peeking again!
123 Post contains links oa260 : UKIP's Nigel Farage In Plane Crash UKIP's Nigel Farage, who is contesting Speaker John Bercow's seat in Buckingham, has been in a plane crash. Mr Fara
124 Post contains images racko : Out of interest: Is it common in the UK that newspapers are this partisan? I mean, of course everybody has a bias, but come on! North-Korean newspaper
125 474218 : Yes! However, the two examples you have displayed are not 'newspapers' they are "tabloids".
126 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : There are photographs of the crashed plane here on this link. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/elec...ction-banner-catches-tail-fin.html loads of plan
127 Post contains links oly720man : The Sun Owner Rupert Murdoch. Multimillionaire. Owns Sky. http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/...ds-off-our-auntie-115875-22212681/ More than 40 acto
128 GDB : Racko, yes, 80% of the papers are to varying degrees, pro Tory. (I have a feeling that when some Conservatives moan about imagined 'bias' in broadcast
129 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Something I find interesting and slightly worrying is that the majority of people I know who swayed LibDem did so because of Clegg's 'charasmatic' pe
130 MasterBean : I have voted and it was a bit of a disappointment. I thought it would be big and exciting but the town hall was empty and the pencil wasn't even very
131 Post contains images CPH-R : Sounds like they could learn a thing or two from Slad in Gloucestershire:
132 474218 : Has "one" what?
133 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Maybe take your own pencil next time. Parking is always difficult at my local polling station. Because it's quite a rural catchment area, you end up
134 MasterBean : All these years I've been criticising people on here in my brain about their English skills and I go and fail miserably. To Mr 414218, I will have to
135 GDB : They perhaps should worry more about George Osborne. Sure Tory Defence Spokesman Liam Fox was spoken warmly of the RN and the CVF carriers in particu
136 GST : I'm glad he is going to be fine, and my best wishes go to the pilot making a speedy recovery, but I really hope there is no sympathy vote after this.
137 david_itl : Had to wait in a queue for about 20 mins to cast my vote (this was an hour ago) and as I was walking from the polling station, I saw a number of peop
138 Post contains images PlymSpotter : I'd be surprised if he lost it, forcasts have shown a 10% majority, so there would have to be a significant swing to the LibDems. Cameron did enough
139 Post contains links TheSorcerer : A little incident while a BNP candidate was out campaigning: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/p...ection_2010/england/8663681.stm?ls
140 LTU932 : What could the constellations be in a hung parliament for a majority government, e.g. if Labour decides to form coalition with the Liberal Democrats,
141 Ant72LBA : WW2 - 1940 to 1945. There was also a coalition of sorts (National Government) from 1931 to 1940.
142 LTU932 : I thought that was the National Government under Churchill, or am I confusing something? Or where the Tories indeed with Labour in one boat because o
143 Ant72LBA : Maybe veering a touch off topic but the Wikipedia page on the various governments of the period sums things up - I searched under coalition governmen
144 sbworcs : I voted Liberabl Democrat in both local and natonal elections. My only issue is with the process itself in that the way we elect has be specifically d
145 GDB : Winnie got to No.10 in 1940, largely due to the ineffectual leadership of Chamberlain, not just in appeasement but in his early conduct of the war. T
146 Arsenal@LHR : I voted for the Liberal Democrats, i was torn between Labour and Liberal. The Tories are a complete no-no for me, not because i dislike David Cameron,
147 CPH-R : Hung parliament according to exit polls. And what a welcome back to earth for Lib Dems This is going to be extremely interesting to follow over the co
148 racko : The British election system is odd. And those guys on the BBC just recently seemed like they were transporting a donor heart and not just ballot boxes
149 Post contains images PlymSpotter : It is indeed. The Navy maintains she can be recommissioned, but only by re-salvaging the 'borrowed' parts back from her sisterships. Indeed, if that'
150 Post contains links oa260 : A Sky News/BBC/ITN exit poll has predicted a hung parliament, Tories on 307, Labour on 255 Lib Dems on 59 http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol...es_An
151 bananaboy : There is some competition for the first result declaration - they have got college students running the boxes around. Will be interesting to see, giv
152 racko : When you do after-election spinning in a British accent it sounds so much more sophisticated than the American shouting matches.
153 sbworcs : THis just shows the point about the 2 party state! Increase your % of the vote but decrease your number of MP's! - Totally unfair!
154 racko : Well I'm guessing if either party needs the LibDems to govern they will be sure to change he system.
155 Post contains images oa260 : Yes I prefer the British way .
156 MadameConcorde : My question is I wonder who will have to coalition with who to form a majority and a new government. As an outsider I would prefer to see Labour coali
157 oa260 : Not really the Conservatives could create a minority government according to reports. The reports coming in are that the Lib Dem figure coould increa
158 Post contains images bananaboy : That's because it is. Mark
159 bananaboy : True.. some exit polls in the past have been up to 60 seats out. What does seem to be very encouraging is that the turn out looks to be quite a bit h
160 MadameConcorde : I am trying to understand what makes British voters think that Cameron and his shadow government would be more apt at solving the UKs problems/defici
161 racko : That Labour guy on the BBC right now is hitting on the LibDems like a horny teenager.
162 oa260 : lol.. that would = disaster Reports of angry voters turned away from polling stations at 10pm even though they were inside the voting stations.
163 Post contains images PlymSpotter : They are less pro Europe for a start. What de-railed Clegg in the last public debate was his fluffed attempt at hiding his pro € stance, just as th
164 david_itl : Look at the 2005 results: Pty MPs UP DN chg totvotes. %age chg LAB 356 00 47 -47 9,566,618 35.3 -5.4 CON 198 36 03 +33 8,785,941 32.3 +0.6 LD. 062 16
165 oa260 : BNP 1961 LIB DEM 5292 UKIP 1022 TORIES 8147 LABOUR 19,137 First results in from Sunderland
166 bananaboy : Labour hold in Houghton Sunderland - first result in. Not a big surprise as far as I can tell. Mark
167 oa260 : Turn out was only 55% but as you say its a Labour save haven.
168 PlymSpotter : That's the only surprising thing, I was thinking it would be higher.
169 oa260 : Tories 305 Labour 255 Lib Dem 61 Amended exit poll
170 fruitbat : The Sunderland result is important as it gives an indication of the swing to the Conservatives, if that's repeated across the country then it'll be a
171 oa260 : 2nd Result from Washington & Sunderland W LIB DEM 6382 TORIES 8157 LABOUR 19615
172 david_itl : 11% swing Labour to Conservative.Last time, the Lib Dems were in 2nd place. Wonder if both Lib Dems and Labour are happy with that result, bearing in
173 oa260 : News reports coming in about hundreds of people being turned away in Sheffield/Manchester/London. Sit ins at polling stations and in Sheffield protest
174 Post contains images PlymSpotter : If they stayed open passed 10pm, then that has the potential to make things interesting. I'm not sure of the legalities of allowing voters to vote so
175 MasterBean : So BA can't open a Terminal without fucking it up and now we can't run an election without screwing it up. I can't wait for the Olympics, that is goin
176 Post contains images CPH-R : How about the polling station that ran out of ballot paper At least one polling station did that, they didn't close until 10 past 10.
177 AeroWesty : The BBC needs an "election boat" to ply journalists and actors with booze while they wait for results to come in? I wonder what the rate-payers think
178 EI320 : It's understandable that the people turned away feel hard done by, but at the same time everyone had ample time to vote during the course of the day
179 PlymSpotter : However, for some people it may have been the only time that they could vote. Admittedly they could have utilised a postal vote if they wanted to sec
180 fruitbat : I thought that but then it appears that people were queueing for over an hour in order to vote. That's simply not acceptable and I think there will b
181 TristarAtLCA : According to a lady on the BBC a short while ago from the election commission the law states that at 10pm the doors of the polling station must be cl
182 Post contains images Klaus : Sorry, but you won't even manage to achieve that. That record is already taken.
183 PlymSpotter : Indeed yes sorry, I meant that. And to think all these years politicians have blamed the voters for being the apathetic ones!
184 TristarAtLCA : Yet the average turnout at the mo is about 61%. We really need to have an aussie style mandatory system. Once we sort out this mess from tonight of c
185 Post contains links CPH-R : What the heck is the guy from "Land is Power" doing here? http://i41.tinypic.com/15f5axe.jpg :D
186 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Yeah, you'd think in the UK we could have managed it *face palm* First laugh of the evening: The candidate for the 'Land is Power Party' in Kirkcaldy
187 Post contains images TristarAtLCA : Auditioning for Men in Black 3?
188 DanTaylor2006 : It is indeed... I'm in Clegg's constituency but there was nobody voting at 1pm so I had no problem voting. Obviously there are more than 1 polling st
189 PlymSpotter : And Lembit Opek has gone! I wasn't expecting that, a massive win for the Conservatives there with a 13.2% swing
190 Post contains images CPH-R : EDIT: Disregard, that was a look-a-like [Edited 2010-05-06 18:35:53]
191 PlymSpotter : Thank God for that. Democratic or not, it would be a worrying sign.
192 Post contains images CPH-R : Interesting looking candidates in Cameron's constituency
193 PlymSpotter : The Labour candidate for Redditch, Jacqui Smith, goes with a firm boot. She became synonymous with the reckless expenses claims of MPs, her own husban
194 Post contains images Baroque : At the ~70% mark, you don't like Labour (surprise), but you are not nearly as much more keen on the Cons as you are unhappy with Labour, and the affec
195 signol : Indeed, one of the Liberals' big manifesto promises is electoral reform, probably for proportional representation. signol
196 Post contains images PlymSpotter : They are indeed, especially in Cornwall where for the last 20 years they could claim unanimous support. But, Cornwall South East just fell to the Con
197 kaitak : The Beeb is currently showing 264 for the Tories, 207 for Labour, 40 for the LDs and 27 others. The Greens have just taken their first ever seat, in B
198 oa260 : Thank god , horrible cow. I hate the UU but if it means Cameron can form a government Im willing to accept it. Its the most interesting election Ive
199 Post contains images gkirk : With Cameron in power, the UK is going straight down the toilet
200 RJ111 : So Tories can't get the majority now. But nor would a Lib-Lab coalition alone. It certainly is finely poised. Disappointing night for the Lib Dems it
201 Post contains images oa260 : Thats your opinion , maybe Brown can be your first President , see how you like him
202 Baroque : Even before the toilet, if you put that comment with this current extract from the BEEB Party ............... Seats.... Gain ...Loss......Net........
203 Post contains links oa260 : Clegg Blow To Brown's Coalition Hopes http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol...Tories_Should_Get_Coalition_Chance
204 RJ111 : Clegg is merely sticking to his word, which is good. Tories are going to have to make quite a few compromises with the Lib Dems though, and that coali
205 Klaus : It is standard procedure anywhere where coalitions are a normal occurrence that the party with the strongest election result has the first go at creat
206 GST : The trouble is the Lib Dem support is much more evenly spread over the landscape, as they have policies to entice people of both labour and conservat
207 Klaus : That still shouldn't keep Clegg from opening exploration talks with the Tories first. Even if formally Labour has the first pick, that doesn't bind t
208 Post contains images NAV20 : We've both lived and worked and voted in both countries in our time, Baroque. But put it another way - a Con/Lib coalition would presumably amount to
209 Post contains images 474218 : As an American living in the UK in November 2000, I was the butt of many jokes about how we American's could not even do something as simple as holdi
210 RJ111 : I see Cameron has began indulging in some Liberal arse-licking. And of course, by liberal, i mean the political party. No that's fine, knock yourself
211 RJ111 : Interesting figure. If you divide the number of votes each party received by the number of seats they won you get these figures... Conservatives: 35,0
212 MasterBean : James Grey was elected with 25,000 votes, Mike Evemy got 17,000, so the person I voted for lost. I think I'll just have to set Mr Grey's car on fire.
213 GST : Steal the car and recycle it piece by piece, as a politician he won't be able to deny it as a good thing without being labeled a planetphobe.
214 kaitak : I don't see the point of the Lib Dems talking to Labour; together, the two of them still only have about 315, less than half of the total, i.e. less t
215 GDB : Clegg should really put one major demand to 'Dave'. A referendum on a revised voting system in the next Parliament, which if successful will be brough
216 Post contains links and images Hywel : This guy is a total legend!
217 Post contains links and images RJ111 : On a lighter note, this exchange between Paxman and Johnson was quite hilarious.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ar6oqMUns
218 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Which would make them the second Prime Minister in as many terms to have not been elected. Neither by overall majority, or as the candidate to lead o
219 kaitak : Classic; never a dull moment when Boris is around! Truly one of the great characters of British politics. Nice to see Paxman show a sense of humour a
220 GDB : I don't know, Cameron could be willing, one or two others maybe, but the rank and file? It could well be in the Tories interests to see an alternativ
221 Post contains images PlymSpotter : I think in part you answer your own question here; Even without conducting an alliance and going it alone with a minority government, the conduct of
222 ltbewr : From what this American sees, this election is probably reflecting the very real political divisions and disasisfactions in the UK at this time. Much
223 TristarAtLCA : I think we will be back at the polls within 6-8 months. Their is no other option for Clegg but to strike a deal with the Tories and I just cannot see
224 GDB : Another consideration about minority government, in 1974-79 there was no 24 hour media circus, which so distracts modern politics, Parliament was not
225 KiwiRob : They are already in the toilet and rushing past the ubend now, I don't see how it could get any worse.
226 MadameConcorde : My question is how will Nick Clegg (a left winger) fit in a Cameron (a definite right winger) government? It seems quite contradictory to me. I don't
227 TheCommodore : That's just it, it wont work, well not for long anyway. Not what you would call a marriage made in heaven !!
228 Baroque : Have a care with wishing for a referendum. Even if there is a majority wanting change, it is unlikely there will be a majority in favour of any given
229 Post contains images NAV20 : Basically meaning "Use your majority to force it through without giving the public a say," Baroque? People in the UK may be interested in the 'dog's
230 Post contains links Baroque : Well just for the record, you can have an optional preferential voting as applies in NSW. Then if you don't want to vote for Adolf you do not have to.
231 kaitak : Another factor here is that the parties - particularly the LibDems - may not be able to afford another election within a year, something which the To
232 Boeing74741R : One thing you must realise with the mainstream British political parties is that it isn't necessarily as clear cut as one party being Left-wing and a
233 GDB : Clegg is not really a left winger in the old sense. He's free market, smaller state inclined, with the usual Lib Dem attitudes around voting/politica
234 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Most of these were graciously retired in the run up to this election. It rather helped that there was a striking correlation between the old hard lin
235 Post contains links GDB : When Brown goes, which he must soon, Labour are best served, in the short/medium term at least, with Alan Johnson as leader. Bad, very bad, would be H
236 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Local issues decided this election. The polls, the commentators and definitely all parties completely underestimated their importance this time aroun
237 kaitak : Never knew about this; hopefully, the "sins of the father" will not be an issue. I had heard Ed's name being mentioned, but I wonder if he has enough
238 Post contains images NAV20 : Jeez, Baroque........ Both of us being retired, we have time on our hands. But I don't care to waste THAT much time just on deciding WHICH politicall
239 GDB : kaitak, for any chance of a LD tie up with Labour, if talks with the Tories fail - which I suspect they might, just too much distance between them on
240 PlymSpotter : I think that's a hopeful position maintained by the Labourite press who, as can be expected, have been all over Lord Tebbit's opinion on the situatio
241 TristarAtLCA : Even the Mirror would struggle to defend this. Nobody but the tunnel visioned are going to accept a government where a handful of seats in Northern I
242 GDB : What 'Labourite' press? The Daily Mirror? That's all, the Indy and Guardian are more pro Lib Dem now, been going that way for a long time too, starti
243 Post contains images PlymSpotter : There's a multitude of local papers which fall into that category as well - especially from the Northern Labour strongholds, and of course Scotland.
244 Post contains images n229nw : Bye Bye George Galloway! Don't let the door hit you on the way out
245 Baroque : Oh no you are not alone. Yes, definitely preferable. But while on the subject of contrasts, why have balls taken over the role previously assigned to
246 Post contains links RJ111 : Brown to resign before the next conference http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8673526.stm The plot thickens...
247 Post contains images TristarAtLCA : Odd you posted this as I was thinking of starting a new thread on Friday post results and asking the mods to lock this one. Glad I didn't as it is mu
248 Giancavia : lol so the 2 major parties that lost take command ... To say thats rediculous is an understatement. Another un-elected priminister... Kind of ironic w
249 GDB : Yes, good to see the back of that modern day sub Oswald Mosely. Didn't even have the balls to be at the count though - but then he never liked being
250 par13del : How long would a Tory / Lib government stand, if they stand for any length of time it will be because labour does not have their act together to mount
251 Post contains links and images RJ111 : Adam Boulton from Sky News is really struggling to get over the fact that the election ended in a hung parliament. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gkH
252 SA7700 : With the UK elections over, it is time to archive this thread. Please note that any posts added after the threadlock, will be removed for housekeeping
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