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How Bad Is Florida's Snake Problem?  
User currently offlinelevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18024 times:

Hi guys,

My wife and I are planning to spend the month of September in Florida. While reading up on the state, she came across several references to an ongoing problem related to the spreading of Burmese pythons. These won't keep me from going, but my wife is getting more and more worried as she is terrified of snakes.

So... how bad is the snake problem in Florida really?

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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6638 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17950 times:

Quoting levent (Thread starter):
So... how bad is the snake problem in Florida really?

They're a problem for the ecosystem (since they're non-native), but little threat to people. Unless you and your wife are planning to hang around in the Everglades, irrigation canals or drainage canals of South Florida, you will be fine.


User currently offlineMoltenRock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17948 times:

I guess it depends on if you camping in a tent in the Everglades or a hotel in Miami - Orlando.

Talk to any Florida native and it's the alligators eating their family pets that are of more concern and problems from what I've heard from my own extended family that live down that way.


User currently offlineGatorFan From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 331 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17948 times:

Ever watch snakes on a plane? Well, it's not that bad.

User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 17864 times:

Quoting levent (Thread starter):
So... how bad is the snake problem in Florida really?

I'd be more concerned about a few other snake species than those pythons -- cottonmouths, copperheads, rattlesnakes and coral snakes -- all of which are venomous. And don't pet the alligators.

Maybe you should consider Australia?  



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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17847 times:

Your wife is missing out on some of nature's neatest, sleekest and most graceful animal creations. OBVIOUSLY you want to avoid the venomous ones, but if I were you I would send her to a snake-o-phobia treatment center.

Phobias are the worst.



Pancakes are delicious.
User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7931 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17832 times:

I heard the Florida government is paying people to hunt these snakes. Wonder how snake meat tastes!  


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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17813 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 6):
Wonder how snake meat tastes!   

Like chicken.   
The good thing about snake meat is that it's pretty much fillet from one end to the other. The bad part is there are a bunch of little tiny ribs to remove from one end to the other.

Snakes are a fact of life throughout the Southeastern US, and in Florida there are lots of roadside "snake houses" that can help to educate people as to which snakes are dangerous and which snakes aren't, plus you can get a good, up-close look at the snakes in a completely safe manner.



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User currently offlinewaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17812 times:

A good friend of mine does field research in the everglades to check on animal population numbers almost every day, so she has plenty of first hand knowledge of the levels of invasive species out there. She's found a couple of molted python skins, but she hasn't actually seen one yet, although some of her coworkers have. In general, it's a problem because they have no natural predators, but they stick to the swamps and I've never heard of one causing any sort of issue for humans. There was an epic struggle on local TV a few years back where a huge python and an even bigger alligator wrestled live on film for several hours, I think it ended up with both of them slithering away in a draw. I'd be more concerned about another invasive species that is a real pain in the arse, the iguanas. If you go to any large open place near the coast here you'll find them, especially places like Fairchild Gardens, and they eat the native lizard species and generally bother people. Another species with no natural predators, other than my car (ran over 2 of them heading to the beach on the key last weekend). Just because it's a cool picture, my friend took this a couple weeks ago while doing field work in the glades-


User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17799 times:

Well, if it makes you feel any better I've spent 4 weeks in Florida as well (2x2 week holidays) and I've never seen a snake. Lizards, yes but no snakes. They're harmless either way, they dart around the hotel pool if they're a lot of foliage but otherwise they don't bother you. They're never over a foot long (30cms) either so they're not even scary looking.

Arizona on the other hand...   


User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17786 times:

I think your wife is overlooking the most dangerous items in florida.

1. Mosquitos
2. Bad Drivers
3. The 4:00 Happy Hour, early bird special rush.


Alligators and Pythons are no match for 80 year olds on their way to the buffet.



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17763 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 9):
Arizona on the other hand...

Blah. In 25 years of living in the Sonoran desert I've seen 10x more snakes in the zoo than in the wild, and I'm pretty outdoorsy...

I will say though, in just one night of critter hunting in my garden a few summers ago, I killed 30+ Black Widow spiders 


User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6305 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17740 times:

Quoting waterpolodan (Reply 8):
Arizona on the other hand...

We like our snakes here, just have to avoid the sharp end



Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 17712 times:

Off topic, but have any of you guys seen the 49ft reticulated python in Indonesia? That's 49ft long and weighing 984lbs...  Wow!http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/3846913#3846913
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3845750

I've heard the problem they're having in Florida is people are dumping their pet snakes out into the wild and Florida has the perfect environment for large snakes to thrive.



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User currently offlinelevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 17648 times:

Thanks for all your replies, guys, much appreciated.

Quoting Arrow (Reply 4):
Maybe you should consider Australia?

Haven't been there yet, would love to go, but for the same reasons as this thread, it would have to be without the Mrs!

Quoting Airstud (Reply 5):
Your wife is missing out on some of nature's neatest, sleekest and most graceful animal creations.

I totally agree. I think snakes are beautiful creatures. Not that I'd want to get too close to some of them, but still.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 10):
2. Bad Drivers

Couldn't be worse that those in Thailand, and managed to dodge them for several years.  


User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17445 times:

Actually I have heard that Australia has some of the most aggressive snakes in the world.

User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2771 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17424 times:

And sometimes...... even the snake wins!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/Steve_YYZ/Misc_Photos/Fluffy_the_Cat.jpg


User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17423 times:
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Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 6):
I heard the Florida government is paying people to hunt these snakes.

True the hunters are out, however this winters unusually cold temps have done in enough snakes that the hunters aren't bagging as many as they'd like.

I've lived here in the Southeast US seven years and haven't seen a large snake yet - road kill aside. No worries re: snakes unless you plan on camping in the 'glades or swamps.



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17412 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 11):
Blah. In 25 years of living in the Sonoran desert I've seen 10x more snakes in the zoo than in the wild, and I'm pretty outdoorsy...

I drove from Phoenix to Tucson and stopped at a rest stop. There were signs telling you to stay on the tarmac otherwise you ran the risk of getting bitten, and just as we left a huge snake slithered onto the tarmac'ed area. We left pretty sharpish  

Saying that - you live with them so they don't bother you, here we don't have snakes barring as pets so seeing big snakes is a big deal to us.


User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 17129 times:

And the big rule is

"Never put your hand in a place where you can't see where it is going, something may be living in there."


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 17116 times:

Yea unless your planning on spending your time in swamps dont worry. And even in the swamps I would be more worried about the gators.

Quoting levent (Reply 14):
Couldn't be worse that those in Thailand, and managed to dodge them for several years.

You might be surprised how bad they really can be down there.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39906 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 17088 times:

Quoting levent (Reply 14):
Quoting casinterest (Reply 10):
2. Bad Drivers

Couldn't be worse that those in Thailand, and managed to dodge them for several years.

Florida drivers can be bad but Thailand drivers are among the best in the world. BTW, did you see any snakes while you lived there?

Quoting photopilot (Reply 16):
And sometimes...... even the snake wins!

Sick!
Where was that photo taken?


I can't stand these jerks that get these exotic snakes as pets to impress their buddies. All they end up doing is dumping them in to the wild and/or losing them.
Here are some articles coming out of Florida.

http://www.nature.org/wherewework/no...ates/florida/science/art24101.html



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 17088 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 9):
Arizona on the other hand...

Yep ... I would bet anyone if they simply started walking though the desert on late summer evening /night and were paying attention they would encounter a rattler or other specie at some point.

We have alot of snakes ... it is not uncommon to see Rattle snakes , Bullsnakes , Black Racers , Coral and King snake's . Love the King snake ... once got to watch one attack a rattler and kill it. Along with the road runner , the King is the natural enemy of the rattle snake and other species. The King is just a bad ass , and not venemous.



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User currently offlineAeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 16965 times:

Living in southwest suburban MIA (West Kendall) Ive only had one encounter, well really my dad and it was a garden snake that was easily killed by a shovel. As stated above the risk areas are basically the everglades canals and possibly unpopulated areas outside the everglades.

User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 16865 times:

Quoting levent (Thread starter):
So... how bad is the snake problem in Florida really?

Well we can safely say that Superfly is in California so the chances of.......oh dear, you were talking about real snakes, not the trouser ones!!!! Sorry....continue the discusion.....      


25 FlyDeltaJets87 : How bad is Florida's snake problem? Well, my dad jokes that Florida is where he got a lot better at golf because he picked up the game just before jo
26 Post contains images Fly2HMO : It's the creepy crawlies like spiders that don't bug me (pun intended). But larger things, like rattlesnakes, will definitely get my attention and re
27 Post contains images dxing : He's hardly shy about sharing the untold adventures of the snake!!
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