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NYC Bombing Suspect Arrested JFK  
User currently offlineua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3159 times:

CNN reporting an unidentified individual suspected in having a key role in the attempted NYC car bomb was just arrested at JFK trying to board a flight departing the country.

Hats off to the DHS and all of their agencies working together to keep us safer. This was clearly not luck, rather they've been tracking persons of interest and when faced with a possible departure from the country, they nabbed em'.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/04/new...ar.bomb/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1


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User currently offlinefuturepilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

Quoting ua777222 (Thread starter):

Hats off to the DHS and all of their agencies working together to keep us safer

   Hope they got the right guy and put this SOB away for a while.



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User currently offlineua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

Got him trying to go to Dubai.

30 year old naturalized American.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Eric Holder clearly is not happy that they had to arrest this individual but obviously, they are forced to do so once a departure from the country becomes evident.

Good job guys.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3070 times:

Quoting ua777222 (Reply 2):
This is just the tip of the iceberg. Eric Holder clearly is not happy that they had to arrest this individual but obviously, they are forced to do so once a departure from the country becomes evident.

Absolutely if he gets on that plane he is gone and I doubt he would be back for the next tea party.


User currently offlineua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

Administrations and politics aside, I've been very happy with the way DHS has been operating counter-intelligence within our boarders for home-grown terrorists. This was the worst case as this group is clearly a splinter group not on the DHSs radar. Additionally, they bought this car locally with cash (why not just steal the damn car?), stole a license plate from a scrap yard, and only after they realized that it didn't go off and that the DHS was going to be down their back in hours did they decide to flee the country. DHS was on this guy within 24 hours, if that.

This is very much terrorism's version of HP IT outsourcing.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Quoting ua777222 (Reply 4):
(why not just steal the damn car?

Then what? If you are successful your window of time is small and you risk getting caught driving the vehicle. Though it's the only real way to do it without having the vehicle traced back, even a cash sale on a used car can be traced.

Quoting ua777222 (Reply 4):
This is very much terrorism's version of HP IT outsourcing.

Much of it is but #1. They just want to kill as many Americans as they can and instill fear and #2. They really don't care if they get caught.


User currently offlineua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

Smart by police if true:

Reportedly (unconfirmed), they allowed the individual to board the aircraft with agents on the aircraft. They allowed him to do this so that they could see if he was meeting up with any other people.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19717 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

They're saying that this doesn't have AQ or Taliban's stamp on it.

WTF is going on here?


User currently offlinesasd209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Oct 2007, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

I hope they got the correct fellow and have evidence to use against him..

User currently offlineshannORD From United States of America, joined May 2010, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3004 times:

I was listening to JFK tower on liveatc.net around 8:30-9:00 pm (11:30-12:00 pm New York time) and I heard the controller tell Emirates 202 that they needed to return to the gate immediately...so I'm guessing maybe he had already boarded the flight and they were already taxiing to the runway.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15744 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):

I think that it is likely that if he is a Muslim extremist, he is not real Al Queda but rather just inspired by them. Even if he isn't Muslim at all, he may have tried to go there because he thought he could find protection.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2874 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

Anyway,..... I hope that this is the right guy that they've got this time, and not some cock up as has occurred in the past, both in the US, UK as well as Australia  


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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

Great work by the DHS! Lets see if this guy starts talking. I wonder who else was involved...I'm really curious to see whether this was Al-Qaeda or just some nutjob...


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User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

Good job by the NYPD and FBI!!
Now send him to Gitmo, and break out the waterboard and put some Lady Gaga on a continuous loop!!     


User currently offlinehomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2244 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2834 times:

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 13):
Now send him to Gitmo, and break out the waterboard and put some Lady Gaga on a continuous loop!!

That's going too far: the ACLU will have a problem with Lady Gaga...



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13115 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2796 times:

The arrested suspect will be facing an arraignment in Federal Court in Manhattan. Additional people may be or have been arrested, including a vehicle and it's driver that may have dropped off the arrested suspect at JFK.

User currently offlinefuturepilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 13):
Now send him to Gitmo, and break out the waterboard and put some Lady Gaga on a continuous loop!

The water-boarding I could endure, the Lady Gaga would make me confess in a heartbeat.



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User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 38
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

Color me surprised, I thought it was going to be an Australian heading home on Qantas.


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User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2727 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 17):
Color me surprised, I thought it was going to be an Australian heading home on Qantas.

How about New Yorks great mayor


CBS Features NY Mayor Bloomberg Speculating Bomber Was Mad About ObamaCare

Quote:
Times Square car bombing was likely “homegrown” as he proceeded, in an interview excerpt run on Monday's CBS Evening News, to speculate it could have been placed by “somebody with a political agenda who doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything.”

Could be “anything,” but the first thing Bloomberg thinks of are those who don't like ObamaCare, presumably conservatives or Tea Party activists.




Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-b...was-mad-about-obamac#ixzz0mxuHv9zU


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...5/03/eveningnews/main6457014.shtml



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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8841 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

Quoting windy95 (Reply 18):
CBS Features NY Mayor Bloomberg Speculating Bomber Was Mad About ObamaCare

Two comments:

Bloomberg takes his place among the whackos, and what do you expect from CBS?



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User currently offlinenewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

The LiveATC.net recording is the top one on this list here. Very interesting.

http://www.liveatc.net/recordings.php



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User currently offlineGulfstream650 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

Quoting newark777 (Reply 20):

The LiveATC.net recording is the top one on this list here. Very interesting.

It's here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGKP_mnOONI

I posted it earlier but it vanished for some reason.



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8278 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
They're saying that this doesn't have AQ or Taliban's stamp on it.

WTF is going on here?

While I'm sure that AQ might like to claim credit I doubt if it's one of theirs - a good AQ fanatic would have stayed in the car to ensure the bomb went off. This guy got our and took off, leaving a dud in his wake.

As for the arrest - well done for all involved.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8841 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 22):
As for the arrest - well done for all involved.

Let's not congratulate ourselves so fast. Kudos to the investigators, no question, but this is a case of closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. Had this guy been in any way competent in basic electrics, that bomb would have gone off.

We dodged a major bullet by dumb luck - just like the failed Christmas bombing, which was another fizzle.



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User currently offlineBoeing1970 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2451 times:

Quoting ua777222 (Thread starter):
Hats off to the DHS and all of their agencies working together to keep us safer. This was clearly not luck, rather they've been tracking persons of interest and when faced with a possible departure from the country, they nabbed em'.

Are you kidding?

They've been LUCKY twice now. Once with the Delta flight and now this.


25 Dreadnought : Exactly. Our anti-terrorist operations have been a complete and utter failure in 3 recent cases - the Ft. Hood Shootings, the Christmas bombing and t
26 newark777 : Indeed, it is quite scary to think that we have been saved twice now only due to incompetent terrorists.
27 SOBHI51 : According to the news this guy went to Pakistan for 5 months to visit his wife. Few questions comes to mind Did he have a job? How can he afford being
28 Dreadnought : One more thing for the creepy file: The name of the suspect is Faisal Shahzad, and he is from Pakistan, whose main language is Urdu. My wife speaks Ur
29 AGM100 : Very impressive action taken by the administration and all the agencies involved. Swift action is the key and they appear to have done it well. Thanks
30 Post contains images newark777 : And the street vendors for alerting the police. Monster sure has been getting a lot of free publicity in the NYC area due to those vendors.
31 Post contains images fca767 : Nice...I guess if it had got into the air they could still call the plane back though...
32 Boeing1970 : NYPD yes. Administation for sitting on their hands until something transpired even though it failed, not so much.
33 comorin : I have a friend called 'Marty' but he seems all right to me... Lame humor aside, 'Shaheen' is the Urdu word for martyr. I think 'Shahzad' is derived
34 SOBHI51 : Sorry but it is neither nor the word should be Shaheed.
35 Dreadnought : I asked my wife and she appologizes - she confused the name with Shaheed, which means martyr. You are right, of course.
36 comorin : No problem! I found out meanwhile that 'Shahzad' means Prince in Urdu.
37 PITrules : On some other msg boards people are stating he was 30 seconds from leaving the company, as in it was a close call and luck that the aircraft was inte
38 newark777 : I had assumed that they let him get on the plane, and was surprised by the outrage that he was allowed on. The last thing you want to do is spook him
39 ua777222 : Even if the aircraft had taken off, while in US airspace they could have ordered it down. Its dangerous to think that they just assumed he was fleein
40 newark777 : I would hope that they knew more at that point about his intentions than they are making public right now.
41 ua777222 : My hope so too. Again, very impressed with the DOT, DOJ, DHS, and all of their subsidiary agencies. A couple of FBI helos were in Connecticut near th
42 Post contains links newark777 : I wish the AP would get their facts straight: " By the time Customs and Border Protection officials spotted Shahzad's name on the passenger list and r
43 flanker : It is now confirmed that he receive bomb training in Pakistan.
44 BMI727 : That is surprising. Apparently he wasn't the best student.
45 viaggiare : So which is it? CNN says the feds reacted quickly, while the Associated Press suggests flight EK202 had already left the gate. I was under the impress
46 flanker : THANK GOD. he should've just stuck with computer science.
47 Post contains links viaggiare : Security slip let suspect on plane, near takeoff (AP) — So is CNN spinning this story on behalf of DHS/CBP? The Obama administration played down the
48 Post contains links blrsea : It looks like couple of other passengers too were taken out of the plane and questioned, and then releaased. Looks like Emirates didn't do their job p
49 HAWK21M : So will Pak govt take action to nab the real players behind this or similiarly look else where as in 26/11 with India.
50 MD11Engineer : Apparently Pakistan´s auhorities had arrested two people, were in telephone contact with the bomber. Jan
51 Post contains images BMI727 : Maybe all the smart ones have blown themselves away already.
52 dragon6172 : I find that is one of their main problems, and one of our greatest advantages. I can not help but wonder if this whole thing was some sort of "dry ru
53 DocLightning : This is the second time someone on a no-fly list has managed to get aboard a plane and cause a problem. I'm shocked that we're not all being strip-sea
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