ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 12 Posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3105 times:
CNN reporting an unidentified individual suspected in having a key role in the attempted NYC car bomb was just arrested at JFK trying to board a flight departing the country.
Hats off to the DHS and all of their agencies working together to keep us safer. This was clearly not luck, rather they've been tracking persons of interest and when faced with a possible departure from the country, they nabbed em'.
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3016 times:
Quoting ua777222 (Reply 2): This is just the tip of the iceberg. Eric Holder clearly is not happy that they had to arrest this individual but obviously, they are forced to do so once a departure from the country becomes evident.
Absolutely if he gets on that plane he is gone and I doubt he would be back for the next tea party.
ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3009 times:
Administrations and politics aside, I've been very happy with the way DHS has been operating counter-intelligence within our boarders for home-grown terrorists. This was the worst case as this group is clearly a splinter group not on the DHSs radar. Additionally, they bought this car locally with cash (why not just steal the damn car?), stole a license plate from a scrap yard, and only after they realized that it didn't go off and that the DHS was going to be down their back in hours did they decide to flee the country. DHS was on this guy within 24 hours, if that.
This is very much terrorism's version of HP IT outsourcing.
Then what? If you are successful your window of time is small and you risk getting caught driving the vehicle. Though it's the only real way to do it without having the vehicle traced back, even a cash sale on a used car can be traced.
Quoting ua777222 (Reply 4): This is very much terrorism's version of HP IT outsourcing.
Much of it is but #1. They just want to kill as many Americans as they can and instill fear and #2. They really don't care if they get caught.
shannORD From United States of America, joined May 2010, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2950 times:
I was listening to JFK tower on liveatc.net around 8:30-9:00 pm (11:30-12:00 pm New York time) and I heard the controller tell Emirates 202 that they needed to return to the gate immediately...so I'm guessing maybe he had already boarded the flight and they were already taxiing to the runway.
I think that it is likely that if he is a Muslim extremist, he is not real Al Queda but rather just inspired by them. Even if he isn't Muslim at all, he may have tried to go there because he thought he could find protection.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12877 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2742 times:
The arrested suspect will be facing an arraignment in Federal Court in Manhattan. Additional people may be or have been arrested, including a vehicle and it's driver that may have dropped off the arrested suspect at JFK.
windy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2690 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2664 times:
Quoting JCS17 (Reply 17): Color me surprised, I thought it was going to be an Australian heading home on Qantas.
How about New Yorks great mayor
CBS Features NY Mayor Bloomberg Speculating Bomber Was Mad About ObamaCare
Quote: Times Square car bombing was likely “homegrown” as he proceeded, in an interview excerpt run on Monday's CBS Evening News, to speculate it could have been placed by “somebody with a political agenda who doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything.”
Could be “anything,” but the first thing Bloomberg thinks of are those who don't like ObamaCare, presumably conservatives or Tea Party activists.
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8044 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2416 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7): They're saying that this doesn't have AQ or Taliban's stamp on it.
WTF is going on here?
While I'm sure that AQ might like to claim credit I doubt if it's one of theirs - a good AQ fanatic would have stayed in the car to ensure the bomb went off. This guy got our and took off, leaving a dud in his wake.
Dreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8709 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2412 times:
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 22): As for the arrest - well done for all involved.
Let's not congratulate ourselves so fast. Kudos to the investigators, no question, but this is a case of closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. Had this guy been in any way competent in basic electrics, that bomb would have gone off.
We dodged a major bullet by dumb luck - just like the failed Christmas bombing, which was another fizzle.
Boeing1970 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2397 times:
Quoting ua777222 (Thread starter): Hats off to the DHS and all of their agencies working together to keep us safer. This was clearly not luck, rather they've been tracking persons of interest and when faced with a possible departure from the country, they nabbed em'.
Are you kidding?
They've been LUCKY twice now. Once with the Delta flight and now this.
: Exactly. Our anti-terrorist operations have been a complete and utter failure in 3 recent cases - the Ft. Hood Shootings, the Christmas bombing and t
: Indeed, it is quite scary to think that we have been saved twice now only due to incompetent terrorists.
: According to the news this guy went to Pakistan for 5 months to visit his wife. Few questions comes to mind Did he have a job? How can he afford being
: One more thing for the creepy file: The name of the suspect is Faisal Shahzad, and he is from Pakistan, whose main language is Urdu. My wife speaks Ur
: Very impressive action taken by the administration and all the agencies involved. Swift action is the key and they appear to have done it well. Thanks
: And the street vendors for alerting the police. Monster sure has been getting a lot of free publicity in the NYC area due to those vendors.
: Nice...I guess if it had got into the air they could still call the plane back though...
: NYPD yes. Administation for sitting on their hands until something transpired even though it failed, not so much.
: I have a friend called 'Marty' but he seems all right to me... Lame humor aside, 'Shaheen' is the Urdu word for martyr. I think 'Shahzad' is derived
: Sorry but it is neither nor the word should be Shaheed.
: I asked my wife and she appologizes - she confused the name with Shaheed, which means martyr. You are right, of course.
: No problem! I found out meanwhile that 'Shahzad' means Prince in Urdu.
: On some other msg boards people are stating he was 30 seconds from leaving the company, as in it was a close call and luck that the aircraft was inte
: I had assumed that they let him get on the plane, and was surprised by the outrage that he was allowed on. The last thing you want to do is spook him
: Even if the aircraft had taken off, while in US airspace they could have ordered it down. Its dangerous to think that they just assumed he was fleein
: I would hope that they knew more at that point about his intentions than they are making public right now.
: My hope so too. Again, very impressed with the DOT, DOJ, DHS, and all of their subsidiary agencies. A couple of FBI helos were in Connecticut near th
: I wish the AP would get their facts straight: " By the time Customs and Border Protection officials spotted Shahzad's name on the passenger list and r
: It is now confirmed that he receive bomb training in Pakistan.
: That is surprising. Apparently he wasn't the best student.
: So which is it? CNN says the feds reacted quickly, while the Associated Press suggests flight EK202 had already left the gate. I was under the impress
: THANK GOD. he should've just stuck with computer science.
: Security slip let suspect on plane, near takeoff (AP) — So is CNN spinning this story on behalf of DHS/CBP? The Obama administration played down the
: It looks like couple of other passengers too were taken out of the plane and questioned, and then releaased. Looks like Emirates didn't do their job p
: So will Pak govt take action to nab the real players behind this or similiarly look else where as in 26/11 with India.
: Apparently Pakistan´s auhorities had arrested two people, were in telephone contact with the bomber. Jan
: Maybe all the smart ones have blown themselves away already.
: I find that is one of their main problems, and one of our greatest advantages. I can not help but wonder if this whole thing was some sort of "dry ru
: This is the second time someone on a no-fly list has managed to get aboard a plane and cause a problem. I'm shocked that we're not all being strip-sea