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Iphone Vs. HTC Desire  
User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3006 posts, RR: 8
Posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4768 times:

Given that my mobile contract is up for renewal next month, and I'm due a new phone (I've sold the last 3 free upgrades) I feel like keeping and using my next one. Since I got my current phone (Sony Ericsson K750i) phones have improved hugely, with touch screen, wifi, web browsing, sat nav, apps, and all number of bells and whistles. Question is, which to get? I'm looking at the Iphone 3GS and the HTC Desire in particular, but am open to other suggestions. Have you used either or both of these phones? Which is better?

And, as an aside, what are the best apps to download?

Thanks

signol


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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4753 times:

The fourth-generation iPhones will be out within two months. Can you wait?


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

Go with the Desire, I have no complaints about the Android operating system. And as a bonus, what I read seems to indicate that the HTC Desire already has Flash support, which may never happen with the iPhone.


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User currently offlinecadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 1):
Can you wait?

For what? More hype? More turtlenecks? More typical Apple bs?

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
HTC Desire

Desire by a long shot, thou I would suggest the HTC Incredible (not sure what it's called overseas). Android is hands down so much better than the iPhone. I know quite a few people who have switched TO Android from the iPhone and they love it. OS 2.1 just came out and its cleared up a lot of little bugs and added some new functionality, and 2.2 is coming out in a couple weeks which will add wifi and usb tethering as well as full flash support (cue standard rebuttals from the Apple koolaid crowd) among other things.



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User currently offlineAeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4695 times:

Quoting cadet57 (Reply 3):
For what? More hype? More turtlenecks? More typical Apple bs?

   YES ABSOLUTELY YOU MUST BOW DOWN TO THE APPLE REGIME!

hehehe

Maybe the new iphone may do the trick.


User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4666 times:

http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/windowslivewriterwhywindowsmobilerulesiphonevswindowsmobi-7c77rock-iphone-2.jpg

User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4631 times:

Depends on what your looking for. I have a 3GS but I swapped phones for a few days last week with a guy who has the HTC Desire.

When it comes to the hardware, there's no doubt that the HTC Desire is a better phone. Faster processor, bigger screen, better screen resolution, better camera etc. If these things matter most to you, go with the Desire. It's a great phone.

So what about the 3GS? Well if you intend using the phone as a music player, it's hard to beat iPod. The iPhone features an inbuilt iPod app and like the iPod touch, it works great. Buying songs from the iTunes store on the iPhone couldn't be easier. If apps are your thing, I'd also say go for the 3GS. The App Store is sleek and has more apps to offer than anywhere else. I personally prefer the look and feel of the iPhone as well.

The new iPhone OS 4 which is being released this summer will be available for the 3GS model and will address many of the issues that people love to moan about such as the lack of multitasking, folders etc.

So the verdict? Wait for the iPhone 4G announcement from Apple. Your decision should then be made a whole lot easier.  

[Edited 2010-05-13 12:59:57]

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

Nice of you to use an old infographic (which is misleading in the first place), Fly2HMO. I can safely discount any of your statements since you choose to argue with old information.


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User currently offlinecadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):
I can safely discount any of your statements since you choose to argue with old information.

   Considering the iphone just got picture messaging is nothing to be bragging about. Hell, my $20 flip phone from Audiovx that I bought in 2004 could do half the things the iPhone couldn't when it came out. What's apples excuse?



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Quoting cadet57 (Reply 8):
Considering the iphone just got picture messaging is nothing to be bragging about. Hell, my $20 flip phone from Audiovx that I bought in 2004 could do half the things the iPhone couldn't when it came out. What's apples excuse?

I dunno. And I don't give a crap. MMS is a 20th century technology. But if you want to pay the carriers obscene amounts to display pictures or video in text messages, fine by me. Carrier charges for SMS/MMS are crazy. The iPhone (and other devices, to be sure) have been able to attach photos to email for ages.

But some people (including you) were worked up over this regressive feature that hinders, and does not help, communications freedom. I hated MMS when I had Symbian, Windows Mobile, or PalmOS devices. It's something I never missed when the iPhone didn't have it. I have SMS and MMS disabled on my phone.

[Edited 2010-05-13 14:22:46]


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User currently offlinecadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4567 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 9):
Carrier charges for SMS/MMS are crazy.

$10 a month for unlimited text and picture messaging. Idk HOW I can afford that! Give me a break

Quoting N328KF (Reply 9):
The iPhone (and other devices, to be sure) have been able to attach photos to email for ages.

Typical Apple defender. Thats great if you have a smart phone but a lot of people dont yet.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 9):
I have SMS and MMS disabled on my phone.

Because, of corse, you are the majority and the rest of us who use these features are idiots.   



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6593 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4552 times:
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Quoting cadet57 (Reply 10):
Because, of corse, you are the majority and the rest of us who use these features are idiots.

Well you are calling 33 Million people how have iphones stupid....



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User currently offlinecadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 11):
Well you are calling 33 Million people how have iphones stupid....

No i'm not. Re read what I wrote.



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User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4456 times:

        

OP, you'd be better off checking out some tech sites for some impartial reviews of these phones. If you know anyone with an iPhone or a Desire (or any similar HTC device) you could try and get hold of one for a while and check it out for yourself.

If your looking for unbiased, factual reviews, you've come to the wrong place I'm afraid.  


User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4424 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 5):

You don't have an iPhone 3G, do you?

If you did, you wouldn't have posted that old graphic that is actually wrong. Anyhow, that's in violation of rule 1H of the a.net forum rules.  


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21470 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4404 times:

Take a good look at both platforms (and possibly others) and above all, actually use them yourself. Feature lists alone tell less than half of the story.

Distrust ideology. Question the immediately obvious.

Try to perform regular tasks, install a few Apps, check out how well the advertised features actually work.

Consider how important specific features are to you.

Consider whether a single platform manufacturer (and therefore concentrated responsibility), after-sale support, reliably available system upgrades and practical App support are major factors for you or not so much.

Don't blindly rely on anyone's recommendations – I have my own preference and I feel I've got good reasons for it. But yours may be different for valid reasons.

This decision is primarily about your own user experience, and that doesn't just consist of what you see at first glance or the length of advertised feature lists.

Both platforms appear rather similar at first glance, but there are numerous substantial differences.

Over(!)simplifying it to an extreme, one could say you've got the choice between a neat and organized park with reliable oversight but also with the strict rules that go with it on the Apple side, or the free range with fewer rules and limitations but also pitfalls and no one really feeling responsible on the Android side.

Most differences follow from these different basic approaches, and this shows through in many places.

Android is quite different from the iPhone platform – not superficially, but substantially.

Neither is inherently and absolutely "better" than the other but you should be aware of what you're getting yourself into on either side of the inequation. Learn to know what suits you – you will enjoy specific advantages but you'll also suffer specific disadvantages either way.

Most knowledgeable people you'll ask or reviewers you'll read or watch have their own personal bias, so in the end you need to get a feeling yourself about what will suit you better.


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8283 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

With the new iPhone being released very soon now is not the time to buy anything.

But it is a good time to start looking at the various apps available on the AppStore and at the various competitors.

If you don't have needs that are app oriented then most smart phones will probably do the job. If there are apps that you need (or want) then focus on those areas first - but still check out the other areas.

With the iPhone you'll probably have close to 200,000 apps available. Take out the fart apps and the apps that are focused on specific professions or jobs (like full medical apps) and you still have a lot to focus on.

And don't worry about the BS about "fanbois" - some people can't help themselves.


Actually, if you're close to an Apple Store (or other outlet) check out the iPad when it's available. You might end up preferring a basic mobile + the iPad.  


User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5671 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):
Take a good look at both platforms (and possibly others) and above all, actually use them yourself. Feature lists alone tell less than half of the story.

Klaus, CONGRATULATIONS!

That is by far the BEST post I have seen in Non-Av in a looooooooooong time and by far the best from you ever!

I particularly liked your description of park/free range sitution!

Signol, what he said! And that's from somebody who gave up on Apple back in 1980 and has seen no reason to change his opinion in the thirty years since!

Gemuser



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):
the free range with fewer rules and limitations but also pitfalls and no one really feeling responsible on the Android side.

I must admit that I haven't found any of these pitfalls yet.



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 18):
I must admit that I haven't found any of these pitfalls yet.

Android, in its current form, is unsuitable for enterprise environments. Oh, sure, you can access your email, but it doesn't include many of the more sophisticated email and calendaring features, such as directories, remote wipe, policies, etc. Also, the fact that the Android Market and third-party app venues have no way of guaranteeing device compatibility is a major liability.

In this sense, it's somewhere between iPhone OS 1.0 and 2.0 as far as feature set.

Despite the mindless assertions that iPhone proponents in this thread are themselves mindless, I have actually tried to implement Android in a corporate environment, and this is what I have discovered.



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User currently offlinecadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4224 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 19):
Android, in its current form, is unsuitable for enterprise environments.

Do you own an Android phone? How many times have you used one?

Quoting N328KF (Reply 19):
Also, the fact that the Android Market and third-party app venues have no way of guaranteeing device compatibility is a major liability.

I've yet to have a single app compatibility issue with my phone. And in many instances device specific issues are quickly remedied by the publisher based on the updated versions of app's that are always coming out.



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4207 times:

Quoting cadet57 (Reply 20):
Do you own an Android phone? How many times have you used one?

My firm did a field test that I was involved with using Motorola Droids. Several devices were involved, and I carried around one for months.

Quoting cadet57 (Reply 20):
I've yet to have a single app compatibility issue with my phone.

That's nice. We did have issues with many applications, and the response was usually "We can't help you because we don't have your particular device yet."



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User currently offlineCentre From Canada, joined Mar 2010, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4067 times:

I've always been a Nokia guy...Switched to HTC last year and got the HTC touch Pro2.... It's windows Mobile, by my next phone will be Android for sure.
At the time I was shopping, I was convinced by a friend ( one of those iPhoneers who won't sleep the night until he converts 10 people to the iPhone), I wasn't impressed at all with the hardware or software, specially when it comes to emails and texts which I use a lot... Thus I decided on the HTC Touch Pro2 for so many reasons including the Battery life which came handy since I talk a lot during the day, the physical keyboard is the best to have on any phone for me, not that good with touch screen typing.... After all it's a preference, and I made my choice for what I need and not what the crowd wants me to have.
My friend stilll think that I made the worst decision in my whole life.

Quoting EI320 (Reply 6):
When it comes to the hardware, there's no doubt that the HTC Desire is a better phone. Faster processor, bigger screen, better screen resolution, better camera etc. If these things matter most to you, go with the Desire. It's a great phone.

That seals the deal for me  .

Quoting EI320 (Reply 6):
So what about the 3GS? Well if you intend using the phone as a music player, it's hard to beat iPod. The iPhone features an inbuilt iPod app and like the iPod touch, it works great. Buying songs from the iTunes store on the iPhone couldn't be easier. If apps are your thing, I'd also say go for the 3GS. The App Store is sleek and has more apps to offer than anywhere else. I personally prefer the look and feel of the iPhone as well.

And that's the deal breaker for me  .

Quoting EI320 (Reply 6):
So the verdict? Wait for the iPhone 4G announcement from Apple. Your decision should then be made a whole lot easier.

Toward the Desire I guess 
Quoting cadet57 (Reply 10):
Typical Apple defender.

iPhoneer, wonder how many he has converted!

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 16):
With the iPhone you'll probably have close to 200,000 apps available. Take out the fart apps and the apps that are focused on specific professions or jobs (like full medical apps) and you still have a lot to focus on.

How much time do you guys spend browsing the phone?... If you will be checking those non fart apps, you would need to reach 120 years of age just to get there.

For me, I have never spent a single dolalr on an apple product, and not planning on doing so... I prefer staying with the outcasts of the society and leave the cool crowd alone  



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User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27007 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 5):
Fly2HMO From U

Thats a good chart, didnt know the iphone couldnt do some of those things , I hear the HTC desire is very good talking to collegues.


User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3975 times:

Quoting Centre (Reply 22):
Toward the Desire I guess

How could you say such a thing?! Apple products are magical and revolutionary........everyone knows that 
Quoting oa260 (Reply 23):
Thats a good chart, didnt know the iphone couldnt do some of those things

The iPhone in the chart is a 3G model, the 3GS can do most of the things listed.


25 oa260 : What cant it do on that list?
26 Fly2HMO : Hell no I don't have one. And yes I'm very aware it's a very outdated chart. However, I've had the misfortune of having messed around with several Ip
27 Post contains images EI320 : Video calling, changeable memory card, changeable battery, send Vcard via SMS, bluetooth file sharing. There isn't an FM Radio built into the iPhone
28 Klaus : That demonstrates a widespread approach to new concepts: Judging them almost entirely in terms of checking boxes for features one knows from previous
29 oa260 : Thats alot that it cant do . Maybe HTC is better after all. Certainly NOT an advantage lol..
30 Post contains links oa260 : Battle of the smartphones Names can become a hostage to fortune but Taiwan’s HTC clearly hopes this will not be the case with the Droid Incredible.
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