GST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 930 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5522 times:
Thought this would be an interesting parallel rant thread to this thread started by Derico. I look forward to seeing people's confusion at our own ways. To start the ball rolling, three of my topics of befuddlement.
1. People who go out of their way to buy expensive, inefficient, impractical cars, sports cars and 4x4s in particular. If you don't live on a farm you probably don't need a land rover, and the height of them is just designed to destroy children. If a pedestrian is hit by any other car, the low bonnet will give you something to fall [slightly] gentler onto, so if the car is going at say 30mph, you have a reasonable chance of survival. A range rover is just a wall. And no you cannot say "well, I've got three kids, so I NEED a four wheel drive", as one person said in a BBC interview I saw a while back...no you don't. If you crash into anyone in a sensible car you just put them at increased danger, regardless of who is at fault for the collision. Sports cars are generally ugly in my opinion, and aside from costing the earth to buy and run, their performance is completely wasted in most of the world where speed limits apply. They both annoy me from a green perspective due to horrendous inefficiency, and even if you don't buy into us accelerating global warming, surely you can see that oil is a finite resource that we might want to make last a bit longer? Especially since much of it is in unstable areas that can keep us in stranglehold, and you get occasional disasters like we see off Louisiana.
2. Football (soccer). Okay, I just don't get where the attraction is, sure its fun to play, but watching grossly overpaid egotistical morons prance around a pitch for 90 minutes where 85 of those minutes are just monotonous passing? To my eye nothing happens in it. The major leagues are now over and I could usually look forward to a summer without my airwaves being polluted by match results and coverage, but now the darned world cup is on. Why did they not televise the underwater tiddlywinks world championship? Its just as good a spectator sport to my eye. I know it is just a personal opinion, I love watching Cricket, which most people would not get also.
3. Chart music. Seriously, who buys this stuff? Its all the same, people who can't sing without electronic gizmos to warp their voice, set to a backing of an electronically generated rhythm that is the same throughout the whole bloody song. Everywhere in the world has traditional songs that tell of who we are and where we come from, they're usually wonderful but being forgotten. I'm not saying we should all listen to folk music at the expense of everything else, but I don't get why fewer and fewer people seem to be even aware of it, let alone know the words to a song that hasn't been a mega hit in the last 30 years. To quote a verse from Show of Hands' song "Roots" about this same subject.
For 'Duelling Banjos', 'American Pie'
It's enough to make you cry
'Rule Britannia', or 'Swing low...'
Are they the only songs we English know?
Anyways, I wait with baited breath to see other peoples rants and musings of civil discontent.
ManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 2998 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5488 times:
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Quoting GST (Thread starter): People who go out of their way to buy expensive, inefficient, impractical cars, sports cars and 4x4s in particular.
Quoting GST (Thread starter): And no you cannot say "well, I've got three kids, so I NEED a four wheel drive"
Usually, if I buy a car it's because I like it. If I only did the things I really *need* in my life, I wouldn't be doing half of what I do. You can look at a car like a hobby: some like it, some don't. I happen to like sports cars and also SUVs and yes, I know they are unpopular. I buy them nonetheless.
I agree with you about the fact that it's ridiculous that some people justify their SUV by saying they need it for the 3 kids. They are probably part of those people who simply happen to like SUVs, but don't have the guts to stand behind their decision. The kids argument makes them feel less guilty.
Add me to the list. I couldn't be bothered if everyone were watching the soccer game by themselves, but no, when a specific country wins (Italy), the roads will be clogged with noisy fans honking their horns until 3 AM at least. Yes, this happens almost every summer here. I'm still thinking of countermeasures to take
Another thing I don't understand of our society is the tendency to accuse the government for everything bad that happens, the most extreme example being some recent fatal accidents with people hit by cars on the street. In about 10 deaths that occurred, only 1 was clearly caused by faulty infrastructure (a kid was hit by a car after getting off a school bus on an 80 km/h road, then trying to cross said road - they now moved the bus stop elsewhere). The other cases were caused by the person being hit, for example by walking drunk in the middle of the road or jaywalking. Yet, people cry at the scandal saying that our government needs to "make our roads safer". Well... how?!
Also, retired people tend to go grocery shopping on the same day (Saturday) when people working office hours have to do their shopping as well. I mean, they have the entire week at their disposal - why clog up the supermarket on the same day there are all those people that *have* to do their shopping on Saturday? In Switzerland, we don't have those large store like in the US, and grocery shopping can really be a pain during peak times. When I'll be retired, I certainly won't do my shopping on Saturdays if I have a choice!
My last gripe for the moment is the tendency of customers to moan and threaten. In other countries, customers tend to be nice and understanding even when there are problems. In Switzerland (especially in the Italian speaking part where I live), the standard approach when there's a problem is "either you solve it now, or I'll cancel the subscription and sue you - oh, and get me that refund immediately". Not very motivating for the customer service reps. A bit of courtesy gets you very far IMO.
LHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5486 times:
Quoting GST (Thread starter): 2. Football (soccer). Okay, I just don't get where the attraction is, sure its fun to play, but watching grossly overpaid egotistical morons prance around a pitch for 90 minutes where 85 of those minutes are just monotonous passing? To my eye nothing happens in it. The major leagues are now over and I could usually look forward to a summer without my airwaves being polluted by match results and coverage, but now the darned world cup is on. Why did they not televise the underwater tiddlywinks world championship? Its just as good a spectator sport to my eye. I know it is just a personal opinion, I love watching Cricket, which most people would not get also.
That is one thing I don't get! Millions to kick a small ball around a pitch.
vandenheuvel From Netherlands, joined Dec 2008, 493 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5440 times:
Your so right about music and soccer. Some people I know actually state their favorite music to be ''top40''. I mean, how can you like music just because it's in this ''top40''. Is this something to be popular? However, it does seem to boost your ego if your the first one to say you like the new Madonna. Seriously, these singers can only dream about being as good as singers from the past.
Another one I just don't get. Package holidays.
Why would any Dutch tourist book a package holiday to Spain or Turkey? This means you'll fly a holiday charter to the south. Be carried to your hotel in a fully packed bus. Stop at like 20 hotels before reaching yours. Listen to your travel hosts propaganda about how unreliable company's like Hertz are. And being forced to pay her for doing the talks with them. After all this you stay at some low standard all inclusive hotel. It isn't even cheaper than booking a regular flight and hotel!! Are we all so afraid of having to arrange our 10 Euro taxi ride ourselves?
I hereby like to make use of the opportunity to rand cellphones.
Why is it necessary to have private conversations in public areas like a train? Some people don't just talk through their cellphones, they yell. I mean, I do NOT care about your boyfriend having another girl! Or about the problems you have paying of your mortgage. Aren't we ashamed of these things anymore? Some people even find it necessary to pick a ringing tune on the train. In the end they always seem to pick the loudest just to let everybody know how important they are, and how many phonecalls they get. It's the same thing with texting. Is it really necessary to have a bleep at every letter you type? Or to have this 'shutter' sound while making a photo with it? Cellphones seem to be so important, it's considered a status symbol these days. Why look at your watch while your phone has a clock on it? When a plane arrives at the gate, is it really that bad to not inform your entire family about it within the minute?
Last week at work their was this family in our waiting room. We placed new tables there the day before. Why are two healthy young parents incapable of stopping their 5 year old girl from writing on these brand new tables? They were actually rather offended by me, giving them a bucket of water and a sponge to clean it up. Before I came in they already seemed to have dumped a filled diaper in our paper bin.
Every non smoker will agree that cigarettes smell. According to smokers this is nonsense. They will never agree about the misery others have to go through. As long as they have their cigarettes. Parents find it completely acceptable to blow their smoke in their kids faces. Or to smoke in a waiting area full of people. They have to get their 5 minute breaks from work every half hour. They blow out their last breath of smoke while already boarding a fully loaded train. After finishing they simply throw their burning cigarettes on the ground! Why would you dispose them correctly?
Probably all dog owners consider their dogs to be great. They let them live and keep them in their small houses. Walking them only a couple of minutes a day. Some don't even walk along with them. They do their thing just out on the street. Why cleaning it? They run along with me while riding my bike. Don't they realize I'll make a pretty bad fall when they hit me? Don't they realize they die when they hit my car while driving? Or that I don't like a dog to 'play' with me when swimming outdoors? Maybe it's just me. But I get really mad when they keep on barking at 3 AM.
That's it for now. I'll come back later when I think of something else.
WildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2541 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5422 times:
Quoting GST (Thread starter): Okay, I just don't get where the attraction is, sure its fun to play, but watching grossly overpaid egotistical morons prance around a pitch for 90 minutes where 85 of those minutes are just monotonous passing?
Well, you could say that just about any game or sport for that matter. What's the fun of watching golf? Or swimming? Or cycling? Now doing it is an entirely different story...
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 1): Also, retired people tend to go grocery shopping on the same day (Saturday) when people working office hours have to do their shopping as well
Or start moving the lawn at 07:00 Saturday (or even worse, on a stat holiday)
GST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 930 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5383 times:
Quoting vandenheuvel (Reply 3): Seriously, these singers can only dream about being as good as singers from the past.
Its not so much that the singers and musicians today are inferior to those a few years back, the way I see it there are wonderful talents in any genre you choose to investigate, but the only ones who get through tend to be the ones who a producer has "changed" to "what people want to hear". When done on an industry wide scale the result is the producers telling us what we want to hear. I listen to everything from heavy metal to folk to orchestral classical, and there are talented young people anywhere you look, but you have to look hard. the "old" genres like classical and folk seem to nurture better, in that the fans and enthusiasts get to know new acts better and acts are able to establish their own style more or less unhindered. The only problem is the listenership for these seems to be small and declining.
Don't smoke in the house I say to my housemate, I can smell it all through the place I say. "no you can't, because I don't he lies". If you insist on smoking in the house, open the window and close your door until at least a half hour after you've finished the ciggy I say, "no need, I don't smoke in the house he says". This has been going on for about 8 months, often I just need to go to the lav, closing the door behind me when out of the room, and enough of the stuff will still get into my room that it stinks all night and I wake up with a cough. Rant over.
As a dog owner I find it infuriating that people keep large dogs in small urban houses, with only a short walk in a public park each day that the animal cant get off the lead. When I had a dog I lived int he countryside, and she got two hours of walk a day, only reducing later on when she was getting too old for such long walks. With fields and woods she could get out off the lead and be a dog. If you are able to take your dog somewhere that they can go off the path off the lead, it takes two weeks to train the animal to wait until they are off the path to do its business. No need to frequently poop scoop (or worse, refuse to do so and leave it on the pavement) if you are willing to invest a little effort in training.
That must be something people like us will never understand.
I have another one. Snow boots. So many girls and adult woman find it necessary to wear these snowboots. Furthermore their packed in some kind of furry coat, a polar temperature resistant cap and extremely well isolated gloves. Come on, it doesn't get that cold in The Netherlands!
A342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4671 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5164 times:
I agree with many things above.
At least for Germany, I'd add the hysteria of many people when it comes to vaccinating their kids or even themselves. The vaccines against many illnesses have been used for decades and have saved many lives, yet some parents seem to think they will kill their kids. Sometimes leading to dangerous stuff like this:
In Romania, where I was born shortly after the fall of communism, inoculating kids against the most common illnesses was mandatory, or maybe it still is. Partents who didn't comply got into serious trouble, and they deserved it. Nuff said.
ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12818 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5163 times:
Some of my head shakers - and not just of the USA society include:
Texting/Twitter and the like: We are losing the ability to communicate face to face, to be able to write and speak in an understandable way, way too much unessary information as well as general rudeness due to the excessive use of these new ways to communiate.
Facebook and other social network sites: Why? Compounded with it's numerous privacy issues, that it can be used against you to get a job, that too many have no common sense in using it just turns me off. I have never did a social network page and never plan to. I have only seen a few Facebook posts and see no real need for them.
Obsession with pets and animals in general: Too many care more about them than humans in need. Many billions are spent by too many for their care while they wouldn't give a dime to a Food Bank. They give them fancy names, have exotic animals that should not be in capativity, won't eat meat and so on.
Celeberity Culture and interest: Too many care more about what Linsey Lohan is doing than what the politicans they elect (or can if they were not so lazy). There is way too much made of celebs, encouraging of the invasion of their privacy and safety and listining to thier far too often distorted values.
Luxury branded products: I see no real benefit in most cases to buying 'luxury' branded products. From BMW cars to Louis Vitton handbangs, to Rolex watches, too many who can't afford such items have them, all for some ego gratification. Please, I would rather have my more affordable Mazda, which for 99% of my daily use will be as good if not better than the BMW for much less money. Does a purse or watch that costs $1000's do the job any better than one for $100 or so? Please don't waste my money or ruin your credit which hurts me when you can't pay for them (higher interest rates and fees for me)
Much of "Reality" programing: Please, I don't like to see people eat strange animal parts, act like total fools in public, invade privacy or treat others like trash for some gain. I have no problem with those that legitmently show people at work or of businesses (Deadly Catch, et al), but I hate the competitive shows (Survivor, et al.) for their stupidty and encourging them to act stupid.
Zentraedi From Japan, joined Jun 2007, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5134 times:
Quoting ltbewr (Reply 12): Obsession with pets and animals in general: Too many care more about them than humans in need. Many billions are spent by too many for their care while they wouldn't give a dime to a Food Bank.
Companionship, loyalty and appreciation. Those are qualities you find missing in many people nowadays.
Also, you haven't exactly put forth a particular reason for why a given person should necessarily care so about and give to a random person "in need".
Derico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4275 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5090 times:
Wrong question for Argentina. Here it would best be phrased as:
''Things you DO understand about your society''.
It would make for a much shorter read.
Besides the horrible politicians, the lack of enforcement of the law (in Argentina, blocking freeways and highways, international borders, shopping malls, in other words, violating other's rights is permitted; as is crossing the border and getting free education and healthcare without being of legal status which bankrupts local governments), besides the complete anarchy of football matches, need I go on.
But those aren't important people. What I will never understand is the Flogger.
Which was why I didn't open a thread about things from your own country, since how can I expect anyone here to explain this!!!
They have their own little electro-minimal dance:
And the biggest flogger of them all has like a 200+ page book.... What of all of THAT could a 17 year old take up so many pages relating defies the laws of physics.
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Andz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8406 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5042 times:
In this country....
The total lack of common sense and courtesy on the roads. Every day I see people skipping red lights, stop signs, kids standing on the front passenger seat or sitting on the driver's lap. Then there are the "taxis" that will pass on the left, go straight on in a turning lane, cut in front of other traffic, even go the wrong way down a lane to get a 5 second advantage.
If anyone is coming for the world cup, be careful on the roads!
After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26350 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5001 times:
Quoting GST (Thread starter): 1. People who go out of their way to buy expensive, inefficient, impractical cars, sports cars and 4x4s in particular. If you don't live on a farm you probably don't need a land rover,
Very true I have a Black Smart car and love it. 4x4's and gas guzzlers should have 200% tax on them and pay higher road tax as they do more damage to the roads.
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Alarming that our young people wear such shirts,etc,etc.
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Minors: I'm concern that minors are being exploited again
And knowing what some of these minors are wearing almost asking for trouble,where's the parenting and media concern.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39467 posts, RR: 76
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4926 times:
Quoting Andz (Reply 17): The total lack of common sense and courtesy on the roads. Every day I see people skipping red lights, stop signs, kids standing on the front passenger seat or sitting on the driver's lap. Then there are the "taxis" that will pass on the left, go straight on in a turning lane, cut in front of other traffic, even go the wrong way down a lane to get a 5 second advantage.
I like that kind of driving!
Here in San Francisco, it's the complete opposite. Drivers are so cautious to the point where they are dangerous. People sit at green lights, drive under the speed limit. What's worse is that so many pedestrians here J-walk without looking both ways before they cross and often times, motorist will wont honk or anything. They'll smile and wave. Inany other city that pedestrian would be ran over.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 19): 4x4's and gas guzzlers should have 200% tax on them and pay higher road tax as they do more damage to the roads.
Just because you don't like them? Here in the United States, heavy vehicles DO pay a higher registration fee than regular cars. Also people who choose to own gas-guzzlers are already penalized at the gas pump. Every time they buy gas, they are paying more than you and they are paying more tax than you because we have a gas tax. The more gas you buy, the more gas taxes you're paying.
Keep in mind, the Rav4, CRV, Subarau models and older AMC Eagles are/were light weight vehicles that are 4X4. Should they pay more in registration than a brand new Honda Accord?
The new Honda Accord weights more than a lot of 4X4 vehicles on the road.
Other things I forgot to list:
Reality TV shows
Tract homes with high ceilings and little floor space
757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4877 times:
On some of the comments here, if I had lots of money I'd actually donate to dog or animal related charities like shelters and the like. I have dogs and they're not spoiled, they're fed normal dog food and sleep in normal, yet comfortable premises. I absolutely understand when people talk excesses in money, but preferring to help animals than humans is a perfectly valid choice in my opinion, and one I'd do if I had money to spare, which I don't. Please note I am talking about helping like in street dogs, not buying a 10000 dollars nail polish to your poodle which is an excess by all means.
About my society (Colombia) I don't really understand why the culture of taking advantage of people is well seen... for example, if you're a taxi driver and you take someone that doesn't know the city through a longer route so you make a couple more thousand pesos that is seen as a good act of "cleverness" instead of being plain dishonesty.
Also the association of evil with not having a religion, and the damn ritual it becomes when you like a girl and try to get after her, if two people like each other why not make things easy?
There's also lots of things I don't get from the current society I'm living in (Thailand), but I'll refrain from commenting on that for the time being.
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