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Sarkozy Bans Tall Bodyguards  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10937 posts, RR: 37
Posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

French President Nicolas Sarkozy does not like having bodyguards taller than him. This is after he asked that lecterns should be made shorter in the places where he speaks. The man obviously likes to have things done "his way".

Isn't this engouraging discrimination?

From the Telegraph:

Tall security agents have been discreetly advised not to apply for a job guarding Nicolas Sarkozy, police sources have claimed.
...
A police source told Le Parisien that "there's no point recruiting supermen" as "large-sized" candidates stood little chance of being taken on.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Sarkozy-bans-tall-bodyguards.html

 


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3124 times:

Napoleon complex much?

User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 859 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3071 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
French President Nicolas Sarkozy does not like having bodyguards taller than him. This is after he asked that lecterns should be made shorter in the places where he speaks. The man obviously likes to have things done "his way".


His wife Carla Bruni (ex-model) has to wear flat shoes in his company, so I´ve heard...

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User currently offlineozglobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2732 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
French President Nicolas Sarkozy does not like having bodyguards taller than him. This is after he asked that lecterns should be made shorter in the places where he speaks. The man obviously likes to have things done "his way".

Isn't this engouraging discrimination?

From the Telegraph:

Tall security agents have been discreetly advised not to apply for a job guarding Nicolas Sarkozy, police sources have claimed.
...
A police source told Le Parisien that "there's no point recruiting supermen" as "large-sized" candidates stood little chance of being taken on.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl....html

Sarkozy's short man complex has been well known for years; So too Rupert Murdoch and MadameConcorde's distaste for all things in the French Republic.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
Isn't this engouraging discrimination?

No, it is not. Take the airlines for example. They have specific heights that an individual has to be in order to qualify. That has been going on for years and years. Nothing new there. No one has complained.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10937 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
No, it is not. Take the airlines for example. They have specific heights that an individual has to be in order to qualify.

I never thought of that. Thank you for telling me.

As to things French, I would rather see Bernadette Chirac married to Sarkozy and Jacques Chirac matched with Carla Bruni. I think they would match much much better and would make quite an interesting swap.

Berrnadette is very very bright and quite an expert at Political Science. She might help Sarkozy a lot on the job while Ms. Bruni could just enjoy life with the retired president. He is such a happy camper, a socialite with an acute sense of humour. There would not even be any size conflicts there.  



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 3014 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
No, it is not. Take the airlines for example. They have specific heights that an individual has to be in order to qualify.

But not "widths" !!   



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5374 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3023 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
Napoleon complex much?

Yeah no kidding. He's got the double whammy going on, short and not good looking. I almost feel sorry for him.

Quoting solnabo (Reply 2):
His wife Carla Bruni (ex-model) has to wear flat shoes in his company, so I´ve heard

That's just sad. Perhaps he should have married someone closer to his height if it bothers him so much. Just saying...



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User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2311 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

So now Sarkozy wants to be taller than his SPHP goons...too funny...

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
Isn't this engouraging discrimination?

Doesn't really matter in France...



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User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3679 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2751 times:

Why can't this guy just be comfortable with his height? I cannot remember how many photos I have seen of him standing on things or on his toes while next to other people.

My favourite:



User currently offlineandz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8471 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2658 times:
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Quoting ozglobal (Reply 3):
MadameConcorde's distaste for all things in the French Republic.

Add me to that list.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7848 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2643 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 7):
Yeah no kidding. He's got the double whammy going on, short and not good looking. I almost feel sorry for him.

He's got a smoking hot wife, no need to feel sorry for him at all.  


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
No, it is not. Take the airlines for example. They have specific heights that an individual has to be in order to qualify.

In what country and for what airline?


User currently offlineandz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8471 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2500 times:
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Quoting LMP737 (Reply 12):
In what country and for what airline?

SAA has minimum height requirements for cabin crew, if you can't reach the emergency equipment in the overhead you're not going to be much use when you come to do the job that cabin crew say they are really there for.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
Napoleon complex much?

You know, I just wanted to mention that myself.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10937 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 14):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
Napoleon complex much?

Sarkoleon is one of his nicknames.   



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5374 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 12):
In what country and for what airline?

I don't know about weight requirements here in the US, but airlines certainly have minimum height requirements for cabin crew. In fact, I know that some (maybe all) regionals even have maximum height requirements.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10937 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

Sarkozy, Bruni Ban Locals From French Riviera Beach: Report

Signs were posted on May 13 reading "No Entry" on the beach frequented by Sarkozy and Bruni, and policemen and cameras have been monitoring the area. Bruni's family has a holiday home nearby, but not their own beach.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...-ban-locals_n_606016.html?ir=World

They want the people's votes but when you step foot on "their" beach they become repressive
Every time Sarkozy and wife go to their residence in Cap Nègre, the whole area gets locked up from public view. Flyovers are not allowed and yacht circulation is regimented.

This is the Sarkozy/Bruni property (pictures) a private hide away near Le Lavandou.

http://www.lelavandou.eu/plages/plage11.htm

According to French Law (Loi Littoral) beaches are a part of the public maritime domain, same with the coast and nobody can be denied any access to them.



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User currently offlinerichm From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 803 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2276 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
Isn't this engouraging discrimination?

No, it is not. Take the airlines for example. They have specific heights that an individual has to be in order to qualify. That has been going on for years and years. Nothing new there. No one has complained.

That's not really a fair comparison. If you're 4ft tall (for example) you're simply not going to be able to carry out the job of a flight attendant without the possibility of compromising safety.

In contrast, what is physically stopping a tall bodyguard from performing their job in this case? I can't see any disadvantage for being tall.

Perhaps I'm missing something here? To me though, it seems that Mr. Sarkozy is being his own worst enemy by strengthening the arguably false perception that taller guys are more intimidating or stronger in terms of appearance than their shorter counterparts. This may be a view that many share, but does it really have any basis? Surely it's entirely subjective? Either way, he doesn't appear to be setting a good example in this case and I think MadameConcorde's question is a good one. He should be someone who people can look up to and admire. (especially for those who are sensitive about their own height.) Instead, he's just sending out the wrong message.

[Edited 2010-06-10 22:13:29]

User currently offlineiairallie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 12):

In what country and for what airline?

USA
Skywest has a height limit of 5'8" or something in that neighborhood

Some airlines have specific numbers other have you demonstrate an ability to do a height related task like reach into an OHB mock-up to retrieve a fire extinguisher from it's brackets.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10818 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Well, its Sarko who´s the outsized man in the game here, not his guard. To be tall is perfectly normal for a bodyguard. Or does Sarkozy think another dwarf could protect him in case of emergency? Hilarious, his Napoleon complex.
It seems to be tradition in France, who´s greatest, sorry, I should better say, most powerful men were short. Roi Soleil Louis XIV wore high heels to look into the eyes of his court members, and the greatest war criminal before Hitler, Napoleon, of cause was even shorter than Sarko.


User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13202 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2140 times:

As to the restrictions on access to beaches when he or his wife are on them, that may be reasonable due to necessary security needs. I don't think you want anyone attacking or possibly killing them.

Along with many other demands from specifications of his issued aircraft, to decorations in his assigned homes, to this sillyness of no tall bodyguards, Sarkozy just comes off like a spoiled fool. Such foolish and costly demands are the kind of things that turn voters against you, especially by opposition politicans and in times where there are too many unemployed and struggling to survive is not a good public image.


User currently offlineoffloaded From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 907 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

This just reminded me of the Irish/French diplomatic exchange on the size of the Presidential box.  


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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
Sarkozy does not like having bodyguards taller than him

I can well understand him. Those supertall musclechaps would be unnerving to me as well. Bodyguards not 180 to 210 cms tall can do the job as well

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
I would rather see Bernadette Chirac married to Sarkozy and Jacques Chirac matched with Carla Bruni. I think they would match much much better and would make quite an interesting swap.

Berrnadette is very very bright and quite an expert at Political Science. She might help Sarkozy a lot on the job while Ms. Bruni could just enjoy life with the retired president. He is such a happy camper, a socialite with an acute sense of humour. There would not even be any size conflicts there.

an amazing idea ! you ought to write to the four persons

Quoting na (Reply 20):
To be tall is perfectly normal for a bodyguard

True, but not absolutely necessary in modern times. We are no longer in Prussian times !


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10818 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 23):
Quoting na (Reply 20):
To be tall is perfectly normal for a bodyguard

True, but not absolutely necessary in modern times. We are no longer in Prussian times !

Sure there isnt a need for Schwarzeneggers, but we aren´t also living in the times of Snowwhite and the seven dwarfs 
If Sarko would run around with a group of bullterriers smaller than 1,70m, he would even make more of a joke of himself.
Maybe he should change his car from a C6 to a C3 to look bigger!


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 25, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Quoting na (Reply 24):
smaller than 1,70m

bodyguards of between 1.70 and 1.75 can do the job in question as well. Persons of 1.70 are not dwards. I some years ago in Windsor visited an exhibition about the royals (in Windsor rail-station) where the body-height of the main royals was shown. I was absolutely surprised to see that most of them are between 1.68 and 1.78 only, while I before had had the impression they were all at least 1.80 . I then carefully looked at some photomaterial around there and as another surprise realised that the bodyguards clearly were (are) between 1.70 and 1.78 also. If you look at leading politicians in the world and their bodyguards, you will see that the guards generally are of similar height than the VIP in question, or only marginally taller.


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