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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8711 posts, RR: 24
Posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3006 times:

Post them here...

Pretty short. I expected him to explain his Energy policy going through Congress, but no details. It's a wasted opportunity for him. He should have laid it out - here's what I want it to do, 1, 2, 3...


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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7135 posts, RR: 87
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2994 times:

Too many Bushwackers with Jimmy Carville beforehand. Gotta love this on Google posted this afternoon.   

User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6265 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

I was really shocked how far he strayed from the situation at hand. This speech should have been completely about how they would fix the current problem and make sure BP paid and found solutions to make sure it never happened again. Instead, it was largely (at least 50%) about alternative fuels in the future. Yes, that's important...but not right now. Right now, it's about SOLVING THE CURRENT PROBLEM. I think it was a blown speech by Obama, and really showed that his administration has no idea what to do.

(Not an anti-Obama statement, but rather an anti-Obama/administration priority statement)

He botched this one bad...


User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2689 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2918 times:

He did mess up a bit by not detailing his plan more clearly. However, what I do find unfair (though in politics, nothing is fair) is Republicans blasting Obama for his slow response to this crisis and some even going further by criticizing his decision for offshore drilling and now suspending it.

I seem to recall a certain GOP candidate back in 2008 who had many supporters with the slogan "Drill, baby, drill." Where are they now?

Simply put, we do expect Obama to be tough on a company that has been proven to skip procedures in order to save $$$, but that's also no reason to expect him to go down to the Gulf and plug the hole himself.

Quoting sw733 (Reply 2):
Instead, it was largely (at least 50%) about alternative fuels in the future. Yes, that's important...but not right now. Right now, it's about SOLVING THE CURRENT PROBLEM.

Well, it IS a solution to the problem. Alternative fuels = less oil = less incidents like this one in the future. That won't plug up the hole, but it does ensure that another leak does not start. Once this one is closed and cleaned, how do we know another oil rig won't burn and sink, and open another leak, possibly worse?



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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2854 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

Quoting sw733 (Reply 2):
Right now, it's about SOLVING THE CURRENT PROBLEM. I think it was a blown speech by Obama, and really showed that his administration has no idea what to do


  

My take was that it was a Cap and Tax campaign speech instead of Capping a Oil Well speech.

I suspect if you surround yourself with political advisors then you lose touch with the people and get off on political campaigns. I was hoping for some leadership if only a twinkling.

What is with the $20 Billion political campaign fund anyway, so far as well as we know BP has shown some effort to pay legitimate claims. I would wait on that one until BP refuses to pay claims, sure sounds like a major concern for political abuse.

Okie


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4094 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

Quoting sw733 (Reply 2):
I was really shocked how far he strayed from the situation at hand. This speech should have been completely about how they would fix the current problem and make sure BP paid and found solutions to make sure it never happened again. Instead, it was largely (at least 50%) about alternative fuels in the future. Yes, that's important...but not right now. Right now, it's about SOLVING THE CURRENT PROBLEM. I think it was a blown speech by Obama, and really showed that his administration has no idea what to do.

I completely disagree. This is EXACTLY the moment he needs to be pushing energy reform in this country. If we had stuck to the reform that should have happened in the 1980s, this well may have never even been drilled.

I think he hit the points he needed to hit - the government, however sloppily they have been doing it, is responding the only way they really can. This isn't the government's well, and it's BP's problem to fix. Constantly shaking fingers at BP won't plug the well any faster. He mentioned the complete disaster the MMS was, and that he's fixing it...I would have liked to hear more about how that would happen. The president's job isn't to direct every operation going on to fix this problem - it's to appoint people to positions that oversee different aspects, and relay information to the American public. Has he done that well? I would have liked a speech earlier, and more concrete information, just like anyone else. The facts are though, that this event is unprecedented and caught the entire world by surprise. I really don't know what else people can expect to have been done up to this point.


User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6546 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2897 times:
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Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 5):
I really don't know what else people can expect to have been done up to this point.

I do.. he could have flown over the coast, like some other President did,, he could have made "out of touch" remarks like "heck of a job Brownie"

If he had done that, he would have Dread and Okie's respect. It could have been that easy.

Or he could have asked the president to BP to commit suicide like that Republican from Louisiana..

[Edited 2010-06-15 19:53:40]


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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2886 times:

Like many, I was quite disappointed in this speech tonight.

Our President, like all but a tiny few political leaders out of fear of losing votes, will not push for what is really needed and would work best to reduce oil and other energy consumption - higher taxes on energy products and a major push for conservation. As seriously flawed as President Jimmy Carter was, the conservation policy he pushed did cut energy fuel use and still helps to this day. While there continues to be a push for more efficiency and short term as well as long term would be the quickest to show a beneift, itself it is not enough. Higher taxes would lower consumption, but with so many having to drive to the jobs they have, the lousy economy and other factors, they cannot afford the extra $10-20 a week for gas higher taxes could mean or the cost of a new high mileage car and in turn losing votes.

Most annoying to me is the last part of his speech, almost suggesting we need to 'pray' for help from "God" to get through this disaster. Praying may get you a few religious types, but it is not a real polcy. Our President must take a strong lead and say what he wants in the bill he will sign, say he will veto anything else, put the 'blue dog' Democrats and Republicans into a corner if they don't support needed changes. FDR and LBJ were not afaid to step on toes and push their critical agendas to help the economy recover and civil rights respectively. Pres. Obama needs to take a simliar strong stand.


User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6546 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2883 times:
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Quoting ltbewr (Reply 7):
almost suggesting we need to 'pray' for help from "God" to get through this disaster. Praying may get you a few religious types, but it is not a real polcy.

Are you kidding me? God is not policy.. That must be some wake up call to Right!

God asked to start the war in Iraq you know... What God says.. we listen...

[Edited 2010-06-15 20:03:01]


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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2693 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 6):
Quoting mt99 (Reply 8):

mt99 with the epic divert to Republicans tactic again... Since you are such a large Obama supporter, why don't you talk about the topic at hand? Can you not defend him this time?  



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User currently offlineflynlr From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2779 times:

well that speech pretty much confirmed one thing,.,. what we have here is Jimmy Carter V2.0


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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3285 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

BP=Barry's Problem. BHO is the guy who criticizes the USSC over the campaign finance/speech law but took untold gobs of $$$ from BP to get elected. I hope the Brits find his Kenyan birth certificate.  


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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8711 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

Quoting flynlr (Reply 10):
well that speech pretty much confirmed one thing,.,. what we have here is Jimmy Carter V2.0

Actually Carter is starting to look better and better.

Here's what bugged me -

1) He claimed that everything is being done to combat the spill. That's not true. The Dutch offered skimmers that could suck up some 20,000 barrels per day, and the administration rejected them IN WRITING. Other countries' offers were similarly rejected.

http://www.fortliberty.org/obama-adm...d-help-with-oil-spill-cleanup.html

Clearly, Obama feels that there is something more immediately important than containing the spill.

2) He said he was going to TELL BP that they would establish a huge escrow fund. He has no authority to do that. He can ask them, he can demand it, but he cannot order them to do anything. Supposedly he's a Constitutional law expert - maybe he needs to brush up on the 5th and 7th amendments, for starters.

3) He claimed that there are no more places to drill in shallow water. That is completely false. It is government policy not to drill in shallow waters. There are plenty of places to drill. Plus 2 trillion barrels' worth in Shale, which he would never allow to be used.

4) He defended the 6 month moratorium, which is basically saying that because 1 well out of thousands upon thousands had an accident in the past 30 years, somehow all of them are about to blow up. His administration has been caught lying about the 'expert panel' that supposedly recommended the moratorium. An entire industry is being gutted on Obama's emotional reaction.

5) He refused to lay out in precise language what his Cap & Trade bill will do. He should have provided a bullet list - it will do the following... No clear targets, no mention of cost. No mention of how killing off the American coal industry will somehow improve our energy independence. No mention of how every family having their energy bills jump by hundreds if not thousands of dollars will improve their situation.

6) And once again, he blamed Bush - it's getting very old. I don't remember GW Bush blaming Clinton for 9/11.

I think he's shot himself in the foot for his credibility. Even MSNBC can't believe how bad the speech was.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._dont_sense_executive_command.html



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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2854 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 12):
2) He said he was going to TELL BP that they would establish a huge escrow fund. He has no authority to do that. He can ask them, he can demand it, but he cannot order them to do anything. Supposedly he's a Constitutional law expert - maybe he needs to brush up on the 5th and 7th amendments, for starters.



Who is he going to put in charge of distributing the funds, Rezko and Blagojevich?

I listened expecting at least a tiny glimmer of leadership, we got less.

Okie


User currently offlineATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 530 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

Quoting flynlr (Reply 10):
well that speech pretty much confirmed one thing,.,. what we have here is Jimmy Carter V2.0

Actually, much of the world greatly respects and trusts Jimmy Carter. I do not believe the same can be said for BHO.

What really irritated me about the speech was his choice to have it yesterday and voice what he was "going" to say to the BP execs. It would have held more ground in my book if he spoke after meeting with BP and addressed the aspects he actually had the balls to enforce. Instead the entire speech was "I will", or "I am going to". When push comes to shove, the penalties placed on BP will be nowhere near as strict as were "promised" in last night's campaign speech. To me, that is all it was. Yet another bulk of BS trying to appease Americans without actually doing anything to fix the current problems.

The other aspect I take exception to is his "6 month moratorium" on deep sea drilling. In the history of the US, we have proven we are an oil dependent nation (change coming or not), and generally speaking off shore drilling is very safe. Putting a stop to drilling will only put more American tax payers out of work, thrust them into poverty, and drive oil prices up. Again, this is just another knee jerk reaction to a problem with a solution that will only serve to further the problem.

I can't wait to see his approval rating after this speech. He dropped the ball just as so many Americans have come to expect of the administration when faced with difficulty.

My $.02



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User currently offlinetpa36r From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Is anyone REALLY surprised? For such a severe incident that is into its 58th day.....ruining lives, wildlife, whole fisheries.......our LEADER is just this week meeting with BP officials. Yanno, because date night with ol'chelle and adjusting the girls diet as a family is MUCH more important.

If this white house would stop making myspace ads and posting videos to youtube, we might actually get some work done. Jesus I cant wait til 2013.



User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4158 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 12):
1) He claimed that everything is being done to combat the spill. That's not true. The Dutch offered skimmers that could suck up some 20,000 barrels per day, and the administration rejected them IN WRITING. Other countries' offers were similarly rejected.

http://www.fortliberty.org/obama-adm...d-help-with-oil-spill-cleanup.html

Clearly, Obama feels that there is something more immediately important than containing the spill.

Can we get over with this tired recycled whining. The US has accepted help and equipment from up to 20 different countries.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2010/06/13/AR2010061304232.html
Yes everyone was slow to act, but everyone though we had a 1000 barrel per day issue instead of the 30,000-60,000 per day problem we have now.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 12):
) He said he was going to TELL BP that they would establish a huge escrow fund. He has no authority to do that. He can ask them, he can demand it, but he cannot order them to do anything. Supposedly he's a Constitutional law expert - maybe he needs to brush up on the 5th and 7th amendments, for starters.

I agree, but the US government controls the leasing of drill sites, so there is at least some weight to throw.

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 14):
The other aspect I take exception to is his "6 month moratorium" on deep sea drilling

Why? We obviously know now that there aren't a lot of good solutions to fixing the problem when crap hits the fan. I think there needs to be time to review whether the saferty plans in place were adequate and BP really screwed the pooch, or if a different tactic other than a blowout preventer needs to be used.

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 14):
What really irritated me about the speech was his choice to have it yesterday and voice what he was "going" to say to the BP execs. It would have held more ground in my book if he spoke after meeting with BP and addressed the aspects he actually had the balls to enforce. Instead the entire speech was "I will", or "I am going to".

This is what was so quizical to me. The whole speech was a waste of time and did not establish any clear policy change.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11140 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2633 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 12):
1) He claimed that everything is being done to combat the spill. That's not true. The Dutch offered skimmers that could suck up some 20,000 barrels per day, and the administration rejected them IN WRITING. Other countries' offers were similarly rejected.

From day 1, the right has been critical of the administration. BP told the administration what they thought was going on, so the administration refused foreign assistance. ON THE ADVICE OF BP!!! I know the right just hates when government gets involved in private industry, unless there is a disaster, then the government is to blame.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 12):
2) He said he was going to TELL BP that they would establish a huge escrow fund. He has no authority to do that. He can ask them, he can demand it, but he cannot order them to do anything.

"Tell" and "demand" are two different things. He is going to "tell" BP to establish an escrow fund. So? How is that "ordering" or "demanding" them to do it?

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 12):
4) He defended the 6 month moratorium, which is basically saying that because 1 well out of thousands upon thousands had an accident in the past 30 years, somehow all of them are about to blow up.

And, in that six months, all companies can check out their drilling equipment and check out their connections and make sure everything is on the up-and-up so they can make doubly sure nothing like this happens.

All the right is so quick to blame Obama and this administraiton, but who origionally signed the authorization for BP to drill? Where was the oversight on this drill operation?



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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2854 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2597 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 17):
And, in that six months, all companies can check out their drilling equipment and check out their connections and make sure everything is on the up-and-up so they can make doubly sure nothing like this happens.



I am afraid you are incorrect here. In very short order they will be drilling somewhere else. Most equipment is leased on longer term contracts. So you are looking at 2 years minimum 3 years more likely. Either way you are looking at 3-4 years before additional oil from the GOM makes it way to a refinery. That is a massive amount of unemployment for the region.

Obviously Hillary Clinton had it right about the 2 am call in the morning.

Okie


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

Quoting sw733 (Reply 2):
This speech should have been completely about how they would fix the current problem and make sure BP paid and found solutions to make sure it never happened again.

Why does everyone think BP is not going to pay? Has the left villified big business to the extent every time something happens that it is some conspiracy cooked up by big business to screw the little guy? BP will pay every claim we don't have to buy into the MSNBC hysteria that BP will declare bankruptcy and try to get out of it's debt.

Quoting mt99 (Reply 6):
I do.. he could have flown over the coast, like some other President did,, he could have made "out of touch" remarks like "heck of a job Brownie"

If he had done that, he would have Dread and Okie's respect. It could have been that easy.

Or he could have asked the president to BP to commit suicide like that Republican from Louisiana..

I hope this post is a joke.

Quoting flynlr (Reply 10):
well that speech pretty much confirmed one thing,.,. what we have here is Jimmy Carter V2.0

I could have told you this long before this speech.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 12):
I think he's shot himself in the foot for his credibility. Even MSNBC can't believe how bad the speech was

That is not saying much, the only thing that would make MSNBC happy is if Obama physically took over BP and seized their assets and having the whole country driving cars and flying planes with windmills strapped to their rear.

Quoting tpa36r (Reply 15):
If this white house would stop making myspace ads and posting videos to youtube, we might actually get some work done. Jesus I cant wait til 2013.

He got elected using smoke and mirrors why are you surprised that he has been using the same tactics?


User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6265 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Why does everyone think BP is not going to pay? Has the left villified big business to the extent every time something happens that it is some conspiracy cooked up by big business to screw the little guy?

Sorry, I do not just accept what the media tells me - I have my own brain, thank you very much.

I never said that I thought BP would avoid payment...that being said, I do believe the government needs to make sure they stick to their word in a timely manner. That's simply what I meant.

[Edited 2010-06-16 10:24:11]

User currently offlinetpa36r From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2544 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):


He got elected using smoke and mirrors why are you surprised that he has been using the same tactics?

He was elected by the overwhelmingly large black turnout. Granted he made it "cool" to vote. Not much smoke and mirrors when in fact he was genius for it.

Regardless he was elected by very uninformed and uneducated about the issues people.


User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4158 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

Quoting tpa36r (Reply 21):
He was elected by the overwhelmingly large black turnout. Granted he made it "cool" to vote. Not much smoke and mirrors when in fact he was genius for it.

Regardless he was elected by very uninformed and uneducated about the issues people.

No, he was elected because the GOP couldn't put together a good platform since the previous 8 years has been a wild march into overspending and bad management,. and at the last minute threw in Palin as a running mate to appease the Right wing side of the GOP and thus turning off the moderates.

Quoting tpa36r (Reply 21):
was elected by the overwhelmingly large black turnout. Granted he made it "cool" to vote.

If this is really why he was elected, then the GOP better start coming up with a better plan, as the US becomes more and more diverse everyday, and "White" is not on the increase.



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User currently offlinetpa36r From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Quoting casinterest (Reply 22):

No, he was elected because the GOP couldn't put together a good platform since the previous 8 years has been a wild march into overspending and bad management,. and at the last minute threw in Palin as a running mate to appease the Right wing side of the GOP and thus turning off the moderates.

Overspending? Where have you been in the last year? If you think Bush overspent, I really feel for ya when you wake up and see Obama's numbers. I will agree though that the GOP didn't have a horse to run, hell they still don't!

Quoting casinterest (Reply 22):

If this is really why he was elected, then the GOP better start coming up with a better plan, as the US becomes more and more diverse everyday, and "White" is not on the increase.

  


User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4158 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

Quoting tpa36r (Reply 23):
Overspending? Where have you been in the last year? If you think Bush overspent, I really feel for ya when you wake up and see Obama's numbers.

Bush did overspend, and he cut taxes where he shouldn't have. I know Obama's numbers are going to be bad. But they will be bad until our Government abandons this idea of Free trade and starts slapping around some VAT's on all the imports.



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25 Post contains images Ken777 : Of course the Obama Haters want Obama to plug the hole himself - and hopes he gets stuck down there. Unfortunately governments are basically dependen
26 ATCtower : The time is there and so are the safety requirements. Putting thousands of oil workers out of a job to essentially do nothing (which I think we know
27 474218 : The man has no clue, it is actually sad to see how incomponent he is.
28 seb146 : THANK YOU! All those right-wingers that blame Obama for everything need to take a step back and see really where the blame lies: BP. Not Bush. Not Cl
29 NIKV69 : Provide some sources because the only thing Exxon is appealing is Baker vs Exxon which is going through the courts, they paid 2 Billion to clean up a
30 Ken777 : Take out the funds that were spend addressing the Great Recession Bush dumped the country in and Obama is doing a better job than Big George and Litt
31 DfwRevolution : There are lots of people calling for continued drilling. It just has to happen. This cannot become a Chernobyl situation where an accident at a poorl
32 ATCtower : If you read carefully, (and not Wiki), Baker V Exxon is a class action suit, and the meat of the penalty imposed on them. They were not forced by jud
33 NIKV69 : So your saying that they are not entitled to their due process in the courts? You also tried to make it sound like they didn't pay anything. Just bec
34 einsteinboricua : Consider the Gulf spill strike two on oil. Strike one was the Exxon Valdez. The Gulf spill is worse than the Exxon Valdez spill. Should we wait until
35 DfwRevolution : Energy production isn't a game. Our standard of living has no strike count. As terrible as these environmental disasters are, they are trivial next to
36 Post contains images Ken777 : BP is already going to put up $20 Billion, which is a fraction of their assets in the US. (Probably why they are moving so fast' ) Exxon didn't "cut
37 MSPNWA : Just another problem-reaction-solution procedure from the government. The speech was all about the "solution", one that doesn't do anything to fix the
38 TOMMY767 : If only she was president right now instead of BO. She'd make BP clean the mess up REAL FAST -- Boy does she have a mouth on her! They wouldn't have
39 Post contains images Ken777 : With an actual depression a real possibility the Conservative/Republicans had pretty well destroyed their reputation as being the "Professionals" for
40 Flighty : It is crazy that the British people think this is about politics vs. Britain. Actually BP is a substantially American company largely owned by ex-Amoc
41 DocLightning : Um... BP has tried to cover up at every opportunity, whether trying to toy with Google searches, stifle media reports, plant fake workers, etc. When
42 NIKV69 : Never heard of damage control? Just because they are trying to stem the negative press doesn't mean they are going to run from their debt.
43 ATCtower : I am not saying that per se. When it is cut and dry where the fault lies, litigation should not be able to exceed a criminal statute of limitations.
44 casinterest : Look, The thousands of workers out of a job in the oil industry pails in comparison to the 10's and 100's of thousands that are losing their fising l
45 Ken777 : I think BP let their lawyers run the show, with the PR folks right behind them. If true it's a classic 180 of the Tylenol approach. And it's one that
46 DfwRevolution : Widespread blackouts during the summer months would also cause significant loss of life. Thousands of people were killed during the 2003 European hea
47 ATCtower : So the answer is putting thousands more out of work? Where is the common sense? The likelihood of the same type of accident happening again in the 6
48 TOMMY767 : Democrats have their own "Country Clubs" as well.
49 soon7x7 : What else do you expect from the leader of the "57" United States of America...an accurate and truthfull response? This alleged president needs to res
50 DocLightning : Why are you in such a rush to defend them? Weren't you one of the people saying that this whole spill was overblown and "no big deal?" This is the la
51 Ken777 : BP is, to a significant degree, addressed the issue of losses to people in the Gulf - that is part of the reason why they have put up $20 Billion. Th
52 DfwRevolution : Not yet. Independent estimates are currently putting the leak at approximately 3 million barrels. The 1979 Ixtoc spill released about 3.5 million bar
53 TPA36R : Agree'd. The PR side of things are half arsed at best! The radio and TV spots are very patronizing in my eyes. You are dumping THOUSANDS of barrels i
54 Post contains links Dreadnought : I disagree. Why should BP need to pay for the losses incurred by the Administration's politically-motivated moratorium? BP should be on the hook for
55 ATCtower : IF, and that is a big IF you are correct on this, how is that by any means their responsibility. This take on it is nothing more than absolutely puni
56 Ken777 : BP was given the authority to drill there and they have the full responsibility for their actions. That's exactly like my Commanding Officers when I
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