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Unemployment Benefits Extension Fails Again!  
User currently offlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 598 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

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Goodness, its been two weeks now that I and millions of others just ran out of their 3rd Federal tier unemployment benefits extension and cannot move on to their 4th tier of 6 weeks now that the US Senate has failed repeatedly for the 3rd time now to pass the extension deadlines, all because of the Republicans who are filibustering the bill in the Senate and preventing it to pass to the President to be signed into law. This Extended Tax Breaks and Unemployment Extension bill would extend unemployment filing deadlines to the next tier from May 30, 2010 to November 30, 2010. This is ridiculous, I am so frustrated, in the last two weeks I've been watching CSPAN 2 monitoring the US Senate debate and hoping that they would invoke cloture on the debate to end it and pass the damn bill, but no, the damn GOP keeps on stalling the bill because they say that the deficit will grow and the national debt will increase. I say 'who cares'   , we are already in a huge deficit and the national debit will rise anyway, its not like were screwed anyway  

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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14003 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

Giving your stetements in your previous thread about the topic, what about getting yourself a job (even if it means to move to another city, county, state or country)?
I´ve done the same after LH laid off a few hundred aircraft mechanics and engineers in the late 1990s (and after i just had finished my apprenticeship). Instead of going on the dole a few (all of us already a bit older than the usual bunch of apprentices due to having worked in different professions before) of us including myself applied for jobs with an Irish company and got hired. It meant moving abroad, but I never regretted this decision. Living and working in Ireland I really got fllue nt in English, I earned my AMT licence there and a few years later, with the experience I gained there, was able to return to Germany into much better paying job. I even met my fiancee while working in Ireland.

Jan


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7889 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

I thought the Dems had a filibuster proof majority, or am I wrong?


Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlineengineergreg From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 2):
I thought the Dems had a filibuster proof majority, or am I wrong?

Yes, you are wrong. The Dems lost their filibuster proof majority with the election of Scott Brown to fill the vacancy left by Ted Kennedy.


User currently offlineAAORY From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
in the last two weeks I've been watching CSPAN 2

LOL, how hard did you try to get a job in those two weeks instead of sitting around watching TV? Maybe now that your gravy train is ending you'll work a little harder to find one.



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3060 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

Quoting AAORY (Reply 4):
LOL, how hard did you try to get a job in those two weeks instead of sitting around watching TV? Maybe now that your gravy train is ending you'll work a little harder to find one.

And what makes you think that he hasn't submitted resumes and is just waiting for an interview? It's not like it's something that in less than 24 hours you got a job. I mean, I don't know whether he has or hasn't looked for a job, but to assume outright that he hasn't tried hard enough is quite unfair.

[Edited 2010-06-26 09:19:17]


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

Good on the GOP!    More reason they will be getting my vote in November!

Quoting AAORY (Reply 4):
LOL, how hard did you try to get a job in those two weeks instead of sitting around watching TV? Maybe now that your gravy train is ending you'll work a little harder to find one.

   My thoughts exactly. I'm so sick of this "Continue to Extend Unemployment Benefits" mentality when it's well known that many/most of those who are unemployment don't start seriously job searching till the last couple weeks before their unemployment runs out.

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
I say 'who cares'

I, as a US taxpayer who has a job, cares.

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
This Extended Tax Breaks and Unemployment Extension bill would extend unemployment filing deadlines to the next tier from May 30, 2010 to November 30, 2010.

Let's see - November 30, 2010. Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they were attempting to extend the benefits just beyond the mid-term elections.   

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 5):
And what makes you think that he hasn't submitted resumes and is just waiting for an interview?

Go read this thread from March 3rd for us (read - almost 4 months ago now) and then get back to me, because from propilot83's own posting history, AAORY is spot on.
Senates Passes $10 billion Jobless Benefits
He says in the thread starter "I got a job" and then in reply 11 says "Well it looks like the job that I wanted wasnt really what I wanted, there are too much safety concerns working for the railroad company BNSF and Eagle Intermodal in southern California. I am not going to risk my body parts getting injured or even killed for $10.50/hr or whatever the pay was. Thank you Obama for signing the unemployment extension bill into law, because I am about to run out of my 2nd extension and ready to roll into the Fed-Ed 3rd extension of up to 20 weeks. I will have to keep on praying forever and eventually get a job very soon! God is great!!"

Unfortunately most of the post were deleted in that thread after that post because so many posters kept telling him to get off his ass and go find a job but other gems in that thread (that I still have in my PM history as I was sending messages to another user about him) include:

From me to the other user: He says while on unemployment since Jan 2009, he has taken 2 trips to Vegas and a trip to Seattle and God knows where else). He says he turned down a job that was going to pay $10 an hour because he was making more on unemployment. At the same time he told us how "desperately" he was looking for a job (in between trips to Vegas I guess).

From me to the other user again: Yup. He kept referring to America as "Tha Land of the Free - Free Healthcare,Free Money. Free this. Free that."

So, einsteinboricua, we do know what kind of guy propilot83 is, and I'm glad the GOP was able to block the extension of unemployment benefits again, and I hope propilot83 has to get off his lazy behind and find a new job. But are you seriously going to sit here and convince me that propilot83 has been seriously looking for a job at all?   

[Edited 2010-06-26 09:54:53]

User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1957 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

Hmm. I'm fully employed but have decided that I can't afford cable TV anymore. No C-Span for me. Maybe you get it with an antenna where you live. Otherwise, it's good to know that perhaps I can afford cable if I stop working.   

User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 7):
Otherwise, it's good to know that perhaps I can afford cable if I stop working

And trips to Seattle and Las Vegas, according to Propilot83 back in March.


User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3060 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2309 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
But are you seriously going to sit here and convince me that propilot83 has been seriously looking for a job at all?

Did you read my whole post? i said I do not know whether he has or hasn't searched for a job. What I said that it's unfair to jump and conclude that straight away. I speak from experience, especially when I know people that are grateful for those benefits while they get up on their feet and look for a job. It's one thing to want those benefits to maintain you while you sit around, and another is having them for the transition between jobs. Frankly, I don't know nor care which is the case for propilot83.



"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

You know what's a better unemployment benefit?

Getting the economy back on track.

Today is day 634 of the recession, and the government is still too incompetent to spur any sort of recovery. Best solution for proppilot83, stop watching tv, and get out and get a job.


User currently offlinecadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
Goodness, its been two weeks now that I and millions of others just ran out of their 3rd Federal tier unemployment benefits extension and cannot move on to their 4th tier of 6 weeks now that the US Senate has failed repeatedly for the 3rd time now to pass the extension deadlines

So heres a hint. Stop whining, get off the couch instead of watching C-Span and hit the bricks, polish up your resume, make some calls to different places, look for a part time gig instead of blaming others and expecting the government to take care of you.

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
all because of the Republican

At least some in this country realize we cant piss away money we dont have.

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
I say 'who cares'

Those of us who pay taxes and continue to watch our economy circle the bowl daily.

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
we are already in a huge deficit and the national debit will rise anyway, its not like were screwed anyway

Yeah. Why not. As long as its not your money right?



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 9):
i said I do not know whether he has or hasn't searched for a job. What I said that it's unfair to jump and conclude that straight away.

Based on his past history of posting on here, we can conclude that propilot83 is one who abuses the benefits and just wants the benefits extended so he doesn't have to find a job. He has proven it over and over.

Quoting cadet57 (Reply 11):
So heres a hint. Stop whining, get off the couch instead of watching C-Span and hit the bricks, polish up your resume, make some calls to different places, look for a part time gig instead of blaming others and expecting the government to take care of you.

  
Maybe now that his source of income will be drying up, he'll spend less time watching C-SPAN and whining on A.net about how evil the GOP is and spend more time (or from the sounds of it, start) looking for a job.

Quoting cadet57 (Reply 11):
Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
all because of the Republican

At least some in this country realize we cant piss away money we dont have.

  

Quoting cadet57 (Reply 11):
Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
I say 'who cares'

Those of us who pay taxes and continue to watch our economy circle the bowl daily.

  

Quoting cadet57 (Reply 11):
Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
we are already in a huge deficit and the national debit will rise anyway, its not like were screwed anyway

Yeah. Why not. As long as its not your money right?

  

To you and your fellow voters in Massachusetts who voted for Scott Brown so we could block this madness, Thank You.  


User currently offlinecadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2253 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 12):
To you and your fellow voters in Massachusetts who voted for Scott Brown so we could block this madness, Thank You.

You're welcome  

(i'm a registered Dem, but I could not STAND Coakley)



Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14003 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 5):
And what makes you think that he hasn't submitted resumes and is just waiting for an interview? It's not like it's something that in less than 24 hours you got a job. I mean, I don't know whether he has or hasn't looked for a job, but to assume outright that he hasn't tried hard enough is quite unfair.

As mentioned by others, in his previous threads he has been boasting about how he is playing the social security system.
I´ve got mixed feelings about unemployment security. On one hand I resent to pay inton the system to support freeloaders, like the OP, but on the other hand I know that I might lose my job without it being my fault. I was working for a company in the past were it turned out that the boss and owner was a crook. He bankrupted the company and disappeared with lots of subsidy money from the government, leaving us, his employees, standing in the rain. If not for the statements by several customers, who said that they were very happy with our work, but were fed up of being cheated by the boss, and due to another company having bought what was left over from the old company, I would have been unemployed as well. In such a situaion I wouldn´t want to get into arrears with myx mortgage payments and to lose my home.
On the other hand you can be sure that in case of unemployment I would be looking for a new job ASAP and I would, if necssary, go abroad (maybe the Middle East).

Jan


User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2215 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):

There's only so much you can extend...it's no secret people are getting lazy, freeloading, or too picky (that job is too far away, I'm too good or over qualified, "it's just not for me)
They could have at least made sure it was paid for...like take the money out of some useless bureaucracy
or wasteful projects...that maybe would have been ok...



Enough is Enough....



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25165 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

I don't know, but the existing 99-weeks of benefits seem plenty to me.

Sure there are some tragic cases out there and folks they might not be employable for various reason's, however if one tries hard enough there are still jobs out there -- yes maybe outsides ones field, or with reduced income.
Worst case one can always move also, most the world will go the job, not wait for the job to come to them.

Hey Propilot83 - you try applying at the local Subway sandwich shop? They seem to hire pretty regularly in my neighborhood.



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User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 2148 times:

I'm really happy to see a lot of people not buying into his pity story, and telling him to stop being lazy and to get a damn job.

Gives me hope.

But like I said: today is day 634 of the recession, and the government is still failing to spur a recovery. So anyone who keeps trusting the government to lead them to prosperity **cough proppilot83 cough** you get what you deserve. So If you want something in life, get it yourself, because the government is inept.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 14):
I´ve got mixed feelings about unemployment security. On one hand I resent to pay inton the system to support freeloaders, like the OP, but on the other hand I know that I might lose my job without it being my fault. I was working for a company in the past were it turned out that the boss and owner was a crook. He bankrupted the company and disappeared with lots of subsidy money from the government, leaving us, his employees, standing in the rain. If not for the statements by several customers, who said that they were very happy with our work, but were fed up of being cheated by the boss, and due to another company having bought what was left over from the old company, I would have been unemployed as well. In such a situaion I wouldn´t want to get into arrears with myx mortgage payments and to lose my home.

Unemployment benefits are all well and good, and they should be made available. But there has to be a strict time limit, so that the number of freeloaders is minimized (you can never get rid of them entirely). Sitting around watching TV all the time should not earn you unemployment money.

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
in the last two weeks I've been watching CSPAN 2 monitoring the US Senate debate

...instead of getting yourself a job. Well done.  

And, by the way, since you've been monitoring the debate so closely, I can only hope you've realized that one of the reasons that the GOP doesn't want to extend benefits is because of people like you, who wish to use unemployment as a substitute for income. You're not only cheating the taxpayers, you're cheating the people who legitimately need short-term unemployment benefits, since your story is one that would be held up as Exhibit A of why unemployment benefits should be restricted, or even ended. Basically, you're screwing everybody.   

-Mir



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User currently offlinecadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
Basically, you're screwing everybody.

But like he said:

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
I say 'who cares'

What a jerk...



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User currently offlineiairallie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

Quoting AAORY (Reply 4):
Maybe now that your gravy train is ending you'll work a little harder to find one.

&

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
it's well known that many/most of those who are unemployment don't start seriously job searching till the last couple weeks before their unemployment runs out.

Yep extending benefits just removes incentive.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
I, as a US taxpayer who has a job, cares.

Ditto, Money for unemployment comes from those who are working and paying into the system. Keep extending the benefits and eventually you have to make up the extra by taking more from the paychecks of those who are working. For short term purposes I believe in unemployment but it's been extended long enough. You take what you can even if it isn't perfect and keep up the search until you find a better fit while working. Thats what I did and there is nothing stopping anyone else from doing the same except an overinflated sense of entitlement.

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 9):
What I said that it's unfair to jump and conclude that straight away

It's not unfair at all in this case and they didn't jump to conclude anything. They based their remarks on the OP's posting history. It's grounded in fact, and a track record not a rash assumption.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 14):

As mentioned by others, in his previous threads he has been boasting about how he is playing the social security system.

Is there a hotline to report gov aid abuse and fraud?

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 18):
So If you want something in life, get it yourself

Yep! Keep humble, avoid a sense of entitlement and work hard to get the job and things you want. No one is going to give them to you and the sense of accomplishment you get from EARNING your way in life is the best feeling ever.


User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):

Unemployment benefits are all well and good, and they should be made available. But there has to be a strict time limit, so that the number of freeloaders is minimized (you can never get rid of them entirely). Sitting around watching TV all the time should not earn you unemployment money.




What a crock...My company closed its doors 19 months ago...I have a small business that was a /dba of that company. Having been working since 14 and currently 54...I have not been able to find a job as apparently the cause interpolates into "your overqualified or your white". Here on Long Island the work force is now a minority based work force and pay scales have dropped dramatically as a result. Coming from an Advertising background, a pilot, mechanic and aviation photographer, with many other qualifications, I can't even get a part time in Lowes...I own a home, can't support a home and child support on $7.85-$10.00/hr. My house has two individuals residing in it, not ten. I've custom tailored six different resumes...got a file 6" high of contacts with no return communications. If it weren't for my photography, I'd be screwed. I find collecting unemployment humiliating but I earned the right to collect and thank God for it. Obama has seen to chastise my client base for "using their Gulfstreams for weekend jaunts out to Vegas"...well thanx much Mr. President for once again hammering good ole American capitalism over the head. Does a lot for creating jobs. High end entrepreneurs hire experienced, knowledgeable people to staff their companies but such is not the case since this administration has reeked havoc with the American economy. New business start ups are on hold till this administration indicates to which direction new business will be headed and it doesn't look good. I can't even stand at the illegal labor pick up points for a days work as they think I'm an informant. Ramp agents= kids out of school, Visual marketing= dead in the water, flight instructor= they have enough as enrollment way down, Lowes dept stores, apparently I must speak Spanish, Architectural sign business, freelance only and $10.00/hr...Port Authority of New York..."good luck"...I'm white...I'm up at 6am everyday trying to land work and entertain the few jobs I get in that manage to pay my bills (I'm lucky)...but I've worked harder at trying to get a job that I have ever worked before and I'm fed up...by the way...better make sure your job is secure as the Bush Tax Relief bill that we have enjoyed for the last 6-7 years expires this January and jobs will roll like a rogue wave hitting a ship,...just might be your jobs...so don't knock those that have to collect.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5598 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 5):
And what makes you think that he hasn't submitted resumes and is just waiting for an interview?

That's not how you find a job, even in a good economy. One of my first lessons in job hunting was to follow up on every single application, and this was in 2003 when the job market was booming.



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User currently offlineFlyingfox27 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2039 times:

When i left College in 2002, i wanted to get a job which i was trained to do like Horticulture and gardening, after a couple of years i decided that due to medical conditions i cant and had to accept that and just jump onto the next job i could get so i did and was successful in 2004. Ok its just a Catering job in a University but at least its a job where i can help pay my way and not sponge of others.

Its good what Cameron is doing in our country, make people on benefits that are just cheating the system be forced to get a job or they lose their benefits. This dosent count on those who are genuinely ill, although some will be tested as they could still use a phone for example or maybe a computer for a few hours a day, still a job.

I find it always best to get a job in the end as when i was unemployed i found it frustrating and was unhappy, its always best to go and get a job, even if its the local Mc Donalds its still a job.  


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5684 posts, RR: 32
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2039 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 16):
I don't know, but the existing 99-weeks of benefits seem plenty to me

As a matter of interest, what happens in the States when your 99 weeks runs out?


25 ZOTAN : It seems like economics is a study that is lost on most A.net users, so here's a quick overview for all of the boneheads who think unemployment benefi
26 Post contains links MD11Engineer : Like my uncle, who almost never really worked in his life (in the early 1970s he intentionally left highschool without graduating and joined some Indi
27 Braybuddy : LOL! I'm bawling into my cornflakes here . . .
28 EA CO AS : Thanks for the ECN101 lesson, but tell me - how does any of that change the fact that Propilot has been boasting about willfully and knowingly living
29 propilot83 : Oh my goodness people , please please stop criticizing me, I've been looking for work desperately ever since I've become unemployed. You think I wanna
30 Post contains images Superfly : Folks, propilot83 is not a good example of 10million+ people recieveing unemployment benefits. Most are out looking for work and taking jobs where eve
31 cadet57 : Funny, because before you said:
32 Ltbewr : I do believe we need conditioned extensions of unemployment benefits. There are some areas of the USA (like California)that are in an in fact depressi
33 soon7x7 : Dude, your not alone...don't let the peanut gallery get to you...they can still lose their positions as well as anyone else...this economy will get w
34 Post contains images cadet57 : Yay having a recession proof job
35 LAXintl : Sorry to hear. Now please dont take this the wrong way, but if this is the case and the new economy requires Spanish, have you considered the opportu
36 Post contains images AGM100 : A obviously racist KKK member could only say this .... My Dad raised 6 kids .... worked every kind of job including agriculture , farm work , auto me
37 Braybuddy : How do these people live?
38 PPVRA : Settle for the first job they can get. Even in this economy, you do see job posts and people are hiring, it's just that they aren't the ones people a
39 iairallie : Thats true and many of us have experienced a layoff, furlough or other career setback so I think we are pretty qualified to judge the OP. Ok that was
40 cadet57 : Yeah... maybe a little looking at it. But he appears like he would be so ecstatic that I could loose my job so I thought i'd let him know that that p
41 propilot83 : Yes pardon my mistake, "last but not least," Again pardon my mistake (were only humans we make mistakes, I used the spell check and in diverse came u
42 ManuCH : Unfortunately, this thread has started to veer in the wrong direction and has turned into a user-bashing fest. Thread locked. Any additional posts tha
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