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F1 2010: British Grand Prix  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4512 times:

On to the 2010 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix
FRI 09 JUL - SUN 11 JUL

Nothing beats the atmosphere at Silverstone when a British driver takes to the circuit. In 2010 both Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button will be aiming to impress the loyal British fans at their home race and hoping to mount the steps of the Silverstone podium.

This Grand Prix promises to be really interesting!

HAMILTON: IF JENSON WANTS TO WIN SILVERSTONE, HE'LL HAVE TO BEAT ME!
As he reveals his aim to 'demolish the field' at Silverstone, Lewis Hamilton warns McLaren team-mate Jenson Button that if he wants to win the British GP, 'he has to do a better job than me'.

http://www.silverstone.co.uk/news/la...-Silverstone-hell-have-to-beat-me/

So... will Red Bull be able to take McLaren on their home grounds?
Will it be a McLaren 1-2?
How will the Saubers perform this time around? Will this coming race earn them more points?
How about Schumi... and Nico?... Ferrari? Renault? Lotus? HRT? Virgin Racing... and all the others...

Who will be the winner?

Football has taken over the news with the World Cup but let's not forget our Formula 1 drivers with their fabulous machines on wheels! Another exciting Grand Prix to look forward to!

                    


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6932 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4440 times:

I hope for fighting on the track, this time. I wonder if the new track is better or worse than before.


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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2869 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4423 times:

Thanks for opening the thread, Madame C!

The novelty this year concerns the layout, which has been modified between Abbey and Luffield Corner:



I'm not really sure why it's been modify and what are the advantages. They have insterted a very slow corner (called The Loop) and I hate slow corners 



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4418 times:

Here's a lap around the new track in a GT1 Corvette;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1DHwRW6mpA



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2869 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 3):
Here's a lap around the new track in a GT1 Corvette;

Actually, they put two slow corners  



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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2694 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4389 times:
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Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 2):
The novelty this year concerns the layout

Why did they have to fiddle with another great track? I like Silverstone the way it was.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2869 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 5):
Why did they have to fiddle with another great track? I like Silverstone the way it was.

Me too! I understand that some circuits need to modify their layout for security reasons (like in Le Mans or in Spa), but here I don't get it.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

I believe the layout change was forced by MotoGP. I think the original intention was to run the race on the original track leaving the new arena layout for MotoGP. But someone, probably Bernie and BRDC came to the conclusion that the new Arena layout would be better for the F1 show.

User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2869 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4341 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 7):
I believe the layout change was forced by MotoGP

The FIM did the same in Le Mans, when they modified the turn of the Virage de la Chapelle as it was not ideal for the bikes. So, instead of a straight line with a sharp turn on the right, they built a curve. And it's still difficult for me, 8 years after, to accept it  



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4339 times:

As expected, Kubica to stay at Renault till the end of 2012.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85035

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 8):
The FIM did the same in Le Mans, when they modified the turn of the Virage de la Chapelle as it was not ideal for the bikes. So, instead of a straight line with a sharp turn on the right, they built a curve. And it's still difficult for me, 8 years after, to accept it

So it's not something that can be converted back to suit cars?


User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2869 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 9):
o it's not something that can be converted back to suit cars?

Nope, they have removed the old layout.

What annoys me the most is that you're not close to the track anymore. As usual, they are putting spectators farther and farther...  



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User currently offlinecodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4305 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 9):
As expected, Kubica to stay at Renault till the end of 2012.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...85035

Good for him, there wasn't really any other sensible option. If they continue the work and cooperation the results can be fruitful.

KS/codeshare



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4265 times:

From Vodafone McLaren

Jenson and Lewis get their own stamps!! Today Royal Mail issued a special Commemorative Sheet of ten 1st Class stamps celebrating the achievements of the ten British Formula 1 Grand Prix World Champions. Issued ahead of this weekend’s British Grand Prix, the stamps, which feature ten 1st Class Union Jack Flag stamps alongside images of the ten British World Champions, celebrate over half a century of British Formula 1 success.

  



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4238 times:

Sakon Yamamoto will replace Bruno Senna for the weekend (and maybe longer)
No reason was given as to why.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85082


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4235 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13):
Sakon Yamamoto will replace Bruno Senna for the weekend (and maybe longer)
No reason was given as to why.

I hope he has no injury or serious medical problem.



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4214 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13):
Sakon Yamamoto


So this weekend we will see another demolition derby then.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4210 times:

It will be interesting to see how the former Aguri boy will be doing at Silverstone.
He is not new to F1.
I still prefer Kamui though...   



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User currently offlinecornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4202 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 14):
Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13):
Sakon Yamamoto will replace Bruno Senna for the weekend (and maybe longer)
No reason was given as to why.


I hope he has no injury or serious medical problem.

sponsorship money hasn't been paid on time apparently.....



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

Frist Practice Results

1 germany Sebastian Vettel 5 Red Bull-Renault 1:32.280
2 great britain Lewis Hamilton 2 McLaren-Mercedes 1:32.614
3 poland Robert Kubica 11 Renault 1:32.725
4 australia Mark Webber 6 Red Bull-Renault 1:32.747
5 germany Adrian Sutil 14 Force India-Mercedes 1:32.968
6 germany Nico Rosberg 4 Mercedes GP 1:33.318
7 germany Nico Hulkenberg 10 Williams-Cosworth 1:33.377
8 great britain Jenson Button 1 McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.519
9 germany Michael Schumacher 3 Mercedes GP 1:33.955
10 brazil Rubens Barrichello 9 Williams-Cosworth 1:34.016
11 switzerland Sebastien Buemi 16 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:34.132
12 russia Vitaly Petrov 12 Renault 1:34.365
13 spain Fernando Alonso 8 Ferrari 1:34.490
14 great britain Paul Di Resta 15 Force India-Mercedes 1:34.580
15 japan Kamui Kobayashi 23 BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:34.710
16 spain Pedro de la Rosa 22 BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:34.901
17 brazil Felipe Massa 7 Ferrari 1:35.037
18 spain Jaime Alguersuari 17 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.318
19 finland Heikki Kovalainen 19 Lotus-Cosworth 1:36.747
20 germany Timo Glock 24 Virgin-Cosworth 1:37.330
21 brazil Lucas di Grassi 25 Virgin-Cosworth 1:37.518
22 india Karun Chandhok 20 Hispania-Cosworth 1:38.735
23 malaysia Fairuz Fauzy 18 Lotus-Cosworth 1:39.510
24 japan Sakon Yamamoto 21 Hispania-Cosworth 1:39.673


The second practice is now on - just started.
I will post the results at the end.

Go Hammy!!!!
by the way he has a new helmet!

Go Kamui!
Go Pedro!!

        



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4161 times:

End of practice 2 A lot of cars going off track and on the grass, spins, cross winds, mechanical problems not counting on the speed and the Gs on the drivers bodies. The Red Bulls and Ferraris performed well in this session.
Wondering if the upgrades on the McLarens are really going to be working.
This is practice, there is still one more tomorrow and then Qualifyings so let's see what tomorrow brings. The teams will be working on the cars for the rest of the day and during the night as well.

Practice 2 Results


1 australia Mark Webber 6 Red Bull-Renault 1:31.234
2 spain Fernando Alonso 8 Ferrari 1:31.626
3 germany Sebastian Vettel 5 Red Bull-Renault 1:31.875
4 brazil Felipe Massa 7 Ferrari 1:32.099
5 germany Nico Rosberg 4 Mercedes GP 1:32.166
6 germany Michael Schumacher 3 Mercedes GP 1:32.660
7 russia Vitaly Petrov 12 Renault 1:32.745
8 great britain Lewis Hamilton 2 McLaren-Mercedes 1:32.757
9 germany Adrian Sutil 14 Force India-Mercedes 1:32.787
10 brazil Rubens Barrichello 9 Williams-Cosworth 1:32.967
11 poland Robert Kubica 11 Renault 1:33.019
12 germany Nico Hulkenberg 10 Williams-Cosworth 1:33.164
13 great britain Jenson Button 1 McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.200
14 japan Kamui Kobayashi 23 BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:33.402
15 italy Vitantonio Liuzzi 15 Force India-Mercedes 1:33.728
16 switzerland Sebastien Buemi 16 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:33.836
17 spain Pedro de la Rosa 22 BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:34.051
18 spain Jaime Alguersuari 17 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:34.643
19 finland Heikki Kovalainen 19 Lotus-Cosworth 1:35.465
20 brazil Lucas di Grassi 25 Virgin-Cosworth 1:36.237
21 germany Timo Glock 24 Virgin-Cosworth 1:36.553
22 india Karun Chandhok 20 Hispania-Cosworth 1:37.019
23 japan Sakon Yamamoto 21 Hispania-Cosworth 1:38.303
24 italy Jarno Trulli 18 Lotus-Cosworth 1:42.901


  



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4152 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 15):


So this weekend we will see another demolition derby then.

I thought that was Yuji Ide.


User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 20):
I thought that was Yuji Ide.

Among others.  



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4112 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 21):
I thought that was Yuji Ide.

Among others.

He was just the worse. However, the HRT car is so slow, he's only like to take either A) his team mate or a Vrigin car, or B) the leader when being lapped.


User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 22):
He was just the worse. However, the HRT car is so slow, he's only like to take either A) his team mate or a Vrigin car, or B) the leader when being lapped.

Don't forget, in case of a SC deployment, he could actually take that one out as well.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

P3 Results

Saturday, 10 July 2010
Position Country Driver Car number Team Fastest Lap
1 germany Sebastian Vettel 5 Red Bull-Renault 1:30.958
2 australia Mark Webber 6 Red Bull-Renault 1:30.992
3 spain Fernando Alonso 8 Ferrari 1:31.101
4 germany Nico Rosberg 4 Mercedes GP 1:31.188
5 brazil Felipe Massa 7 Ferrari 1:31.240
6 poland Robert Kubica 11 Renault 1:31.519
7 great britain Lewis Hamilton 2 McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.549
8 germany Michael Schumacher 3 Mercedes GP 1:31.555
9 spain Pedro de la Rosa 22 BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:31.559
10 brazil Rubens Barrichello 9 Williams-Cosworth 1:31.581
11 russia Vitaly Petrov 12 Renault 1:31.698
12 great britain Jenson Button 1 McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.703
13 germany Nico Hulkenberg 10 Williams-Cosworth 1:31.867
14 japan Kamui Kobayashi 23 BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:31.947
15 germany Adrian Sutil 14 Force India-Mercedes 1:31.994
16 switzerland Sebastien Buemi 16 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:32.235
17 spain Jaime Alguersuari 17 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:32.331
18 italy Vitantonio Liuzzi 15 Force India-Mercedes 1:32.723
19 finland Heikki Kovalainen 19 Lotus-Cosworth 1:34.339
20 brazil Lucas di Grassi 25 Virgin-Cosworth 1:35.479
21 italy Jarno Trulli 18 Lotus-Cosworth 1:36.098
22 india Karun Chandhok 20 Hispania-Cosworth 1:36.286
23 germany Timo Glock 24 Virgin-Cosworth 1:36.640
24 japan Sakon Yamamoto 21 Hispania-Cosworth 1:37.178

Qualifyings have just started. Let's see who will grab Pole for the British Grand Prix!



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25 MadameConcorde : First qualif result: 1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull 2 Australia M Webber Red Bull 3 Spain F Alonso Ferrari 4 Germany A Sutil Force India 5 Great Britain
26 Post contains images GrahamHill : I just learnt that they will also move the start/finish line between Club Corner and Abbey. They are building brand new pits here:
27 MadameConcorde : Jenson Button is not going to make it to Q3. The McLarens are not at their maximum this time around. The Saubers are doing rather well. 1 Australia M
28 GrahamHill : Pole for Vettel... again.
29 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Results for Q3 and final Red Bulls are 1 and 2 - Sebastian Vettel takes Pole The Ferrari is back with Alonso in 3rd. Hammy is 4th. Pedro did really we
30 Bill142 : Max had them speed limited.
31 waterpolodan : Interesting qualifying, Seb beat Webber with what was apparently a newer and quicker front wing, though he was still just fractions ahead. These two g
32 sudden : Doing what if I might ask? The cars are "sealed", so they wont be doing much if any work on them.
33 scbriml : Not great for the McLaren boys, although Hamilton is only a whisker behind Alonso. The much lauded 'update package' looks like it needs a lot more wor
34 stealthz : By some accounts that wing is worth about 1/10 sec, add that to Vettel's time and subtract from Webber's and the front row would be different. Luck i
35 Bill142 : It's turning in to a bit of a row. Apparently RBR removed the new spec wing from Webbers car after Vettel broke his. This was, apparently, because of
36 Post contains images waterpolodan : The more I think about it, the more annoyed I am. Webber's comment in the press conference was perhaps very telling... "The team got the result they
37 MadameConcorde : Allright folks, 5 minutes to race time... on the new-looking Silverstone track! Two Red Bulls, a Ferrari, Hammy and his McLaren and Nico with his Merc
38 BlueElephant : Did I just see Alonso go off track to overtake Kubica?...If we don't hear something about that later... FIA will be back.
39 MadameConcorde : I saw the same thing. I wonder what the stewards will think about this one! ooops! Kubica is out! Goodbye....[Edited 2010-07-11 05:37:29]
40 Bill142 : Renault are complaining. So we'll see.
41 BlueElephant : The F1 feed happens to say... "Lap 18/52 a question mark hangs over Alonso's pass on Kubica - did the Spaniard gain an advantage by running off-track,
42 stealthz : Vettel struggling, I am sure the team will highlight some McLaren inflicted damage but it looks to me that Seb has a serious case of the sulks. His at
43 BlueElephant : Racing incident....If Red Bull play the blame game, they'll just be whining as bad as Nando.
44 flyboysp : I'll happily admit i had a smile of smug satisfaction, from seeing how Seb has gone so far
45 Bill142 : He's starting to out rank Alonso in the sook stakes.
46 Post contains images EZEIZA : Alonso should have let Kubica get his place back and then attack him again ... I haven't seen the "under investigation" announcement yet? ooops, there
47 Bill142 : Drive through for Alonso.
48 Post contains images BlueElephant : as long as he gives his place back for AT LEAST 1 corner Things just went from bad to worse for Alonso..he hasn't taken his Drive through yet....he's
49 Post contains images EZEIZA : I know, but Alonso was much faster, and he could have been attacking him again in no time. SC on the track .... watch out Hamilton, you have to stay
50 Bill142 : Safety Car. This could mix things up a lot.
51 Giancavia : Have any of you even watched the incident. If alonso doesnt do what he did we have a crash. I guess the stewards prefer 2 cars out.. dumb decision.
52 Post contains images BlueElephant : Yes...tell that to Lewis Hamilton... Giancavia...welcome to our thread...let me introduce you to EZEIZA...
53 Giancavia : Thanks dude.
54 MadameConcorde : Kamui in 6th wow!!! He will have to pit at some time though....
55 EZEIZA : Alonso is being one unlucky driver this season. He'll cry again, but luck is definitely not on his side .. how many points has he lost in the last two
56 BlueElephant : I think he's already pitted! He just has to hold his position.
57 Post contains images BlueElephant : probably around 25-30 points.... I agree though...I can only Imagine... "This is not fair!...Kubica force me off track he should get penalty!" I for
58 MadameConcorde : Vettel is working his way up. He will probably pass a few more before the end of the race. I hope Kamui can hold his place! He id doing a great great
59 Bill142 : Unlucky yes, but he could have quite easily avoided it by giving the place back. He's pitted. If you look at your timing feed you'll see a column cal
60 MadameConcorde : vettel is now racing off Sutil.... Let's see if he can pass him!
61 BlueElephant : Sutil is a tough one to pass Algausauri off....
62 EZEIZA : true, but he was unlucky in the sense that the penalty was given at the same time the SC was coming out. Had the stewards had any brains, the drive t
63 BlueElephant : I think it was relatively quick...quicker than the 10 laps from the last race...and the decision was given quickly after that (within a lap)
64 Bill142 : Who knows. Seems to be a reoccurring theme doesn't it? Seems that Alonso has been caught out by circumstances again.
65 stealthz : Actually was 10 laps!.. I believe
66 Bill142 : Interesting to listen to the radio chatter between the team and Webber after the race. Not the usual happy banter.
67 BlueElephant : Congrats to Mark Webber, great drive. Drivers of the race from this end. Webber, Hamilton, Button, Kobayashi and Sutil Anyone want to take bets on how
68 stealthz : Not all happiness & smiles at Red Bull.. Horner"maybe you can manage a smile now" Webber"Not bad for a number 2!"
69 Post contains images EZEIZA : but since the drive through was given, this was a more obvious decision that didn't need 10 laps to think through. Oh well, tough day again for Ferra
70 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Fantastic race by Kamui!!!!! Peter Sauber can be very proud of him!!!! Congrats to Webber for the win! Great job by Hammy! Fantastic race!!!!!!! 2-4 f
71 BlueElephant : Is it just me or is the BBC trying to start a war within Red Bull. They're telling Christian Horner he's screwing over Webber, and then they ask Vette
72 CXB77L : Oh, come on! Yes, Vettel lost out in the first corner, and I saw absolutely nothing wrong with that, but what gave you the idea that he was sulking?
73 Bill142 : Safety car got him back in the game. If there was no safety car he wouldn't have finished in the points because he was just lapping, not pushing. See
74 stealthz : We don't get all the BBC interviews here but from what I see Red Bull don't need the Beeb's help to start an internal war!
75 scbriml : I didn't see it that way. Alonso put himself in the wrong place going into that chicane. Alonso clearly gained the place by cutting the corner. He wo
76 stealthz : Reports from the UK say that Webber expects heavy chats with Red Bull management regarding the events of this weekend and that he would not have signe
77 scbriml : The cracks in the team can no longer be papered over. If Red Bull is consistent, then anything that would give one driver a slight advantage should n
78 stealthz : Do you really think this will happen? IMO, the line in the sand will shortly be drawn(if it hasn't already!) and the RB head office will take over. P
79 EZEIZA : only afte the SC came out and put everyone together. Before that he was doing nothing. It reminded me of Valencia after Alonso found himslef in the b
80 scbriml : Interesting point raised by Ferrari after the race - a suggestion that the pole side of the grid was on the wrong side. Although the left-hand side sh
81 BlueElephant : Another interesting note... Rubens Barichello beat the Stig!
82 waterpolodan : Madame Concorde is right, Kamui had a great race today! We go on and on about how Mclaren have closed the gap to RBR (this weekend excepted), but Saub
83 Bill142 : The addition of James Key as Technical Director really has been the key to their turn around. Alonso continues to show his lack of respect for anyone
84 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Kamui is a fantastic driver although I know that only very few are taking him seriously and rate him as being second if not third class. I will say g
85 stealthz : Whilst I understand succesful people must display some level of self confidence and know this is especially true of F1 drivers, this comment from FA i
86 waterpolodan : Well, that's going a bit far. AFAIK, he's still losing the teammate qualifying battle to de la Rosa, who has had a chance to race alongside good driv
87 GrahamHill : That's his second solid race in a row. This driver is promising indeed.
88 EZEIZA : I don't think he has a chace to win the WDC, but having the fastest laps does show the car to be conpetitive, regardless of when it happened. Ferrari
89 stealthz : Not sure where in the BGP he was actually fighting for third place... subtract a generous 30sec from his race time and he MIGHT have been 7th but who
90 EZEIZA : true, I was only thinking about Valencia .. in th BGP he had a bad start, so yes, fighting for third might have been a bit exagerated, but he still w
91 BlueElephant : Fast lap with low fuel on fresh soft tyres is not the same a fair comparision to a fast lap with low fuel on tyres that have gone some 40 laps. If Al
92 Post contains images EZEIZA : he was third in the quali ... that's competitive to me It's still better than not making the fastest lap. they could have done fast laps, not the fas
93 scbriml : Very true. Or setting a fast lap time at the start of the race with a full tank. Also worth observing that's the first time Alonso has managed the fa
94 Post contains links and images scbriml : A little more on the turmoil at Red Bull http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-bull/story-e6frg7mf-1225890804870 If this is true, then the situation
95 EZEIZA : In Valencia I think it did, until the whole SC issue, he was gfoing fast and closing in on LH. agreed, and it's something which pisses me off because
96 sudden : Just managed to watch the race. Very interesting all together. Congrats to Webber for a well driven race. same goes to Hamilton and by far to Rosberg!
97 stealthz : If any believe the last statement then I have a bridge in Brooklyn(or Sydney), perhaps a tower beside the Seine that I believe I could sell you! From
98 Post contains links and images scbriml : But didn't he (like most of the other drivers) have launch control for most of his career? Not forgetting he also had a little jump start this season
99 stealthz : Bernie thinks MS might retire... Interesting how people are still blaming the car when it is clearly several tenths more "up to" Rosberg. That top ste
100 Post contains links BlueElephant : Ready for this Ferrari Fans? http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85258 Ferrari was told 3 times to let Kubica back through "Although the penal
101 GrahamHill : The "intelligence" of Ferrari has decreased a lot since Todt and Brawn left the team... They probably need to hire more competent staff.
102 sudden : When being interviewed by BCC after the race, Schumi looked rather embarrassed about the questions he got. Putting on a fake smile and giving very bl
103 EZEIZA : or has it occured to you that they thought they had a point? ferrari is not "getting away" with absolutely anything, despite everyone's FIA claims.
104 Post contains images scbriml : It is, and even more unbelievable is that they whinged after the race that the punishment was harsh. There wouldn't have been any punishment if they'
105 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Many are saying that Kimi wants to get back to F1 in 2011. This might be his luck? Unless Renault drops Petrov?
106 sudden : Not sure where you heard that, but Kimi wont drop his WRC challenge in the middle of the season where his performance is only getting better and bett
107 EZEIZA : Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree that Ferrari handled this like a rookie team, and since I saw the race live I thought to myself "WTF is Alonso
108 sudden : I actually think that's what B-elephant meant. If we go back in time, not far even, we have seen occasions when Ferrari did get away with stuff that
109 BlueElephant : That's exaclty what i was suggesting. I'm not saying its still the case, but Ferrari got away with a lot in the past. Not this year for sure, I think
110 EZEIZA : Ferrari might have gone away with stuff, but not more than several others. And the biggest scandals where teams got off easy were not involving Ferra
111 Post contains images sudden : Hey, I joined Anet 9 years ago today. Beers on me.
112 BlueElephant : Hamilton was "forced out" too....he went off track becasue had he stayed on he would have hit Kimi....He was forced to yield his position too....and
113 Post contains images EZEIZA : I agree, but I can understand the driver (any driver) in that situation thinking he did no wrong. The tram should have been smarter and should have t
114 Post contains images scbriml : No, this season they seem to have been treated as any other team would be by the FIA. As a loud proponent of the 'Ferrari International Assistance' s
115 Post contains images GrahamHill : There are always rumours about that. But I'm sure he is happy in WRC and will stay next year. Happy Bday!! What's your best Swedish lager?
116 Post contains images EZEIZA : I still remember the screaming when Todt was announced I was a bit more polite and called it rookie , but you are 100% correct I really hope it's not
117 stealthz : And I am big enough to admit I was one of those... seems so far I am being proven wrong. I think one of the problems Ferrari is having with the "new"
118 Post contains images sudden : I was close to tears when I saw it. 9 years wasted. How about Heineken? I'm after all in Holland. In Alonson's defense, he did get on the radio strai
119 Bill142 : The FIA under JT has certainly been an improvement. And like you, I was one of the doubters when it came to Todt taking over. Clearly Moseley came so
120 codeshare : Once again Ferrari should concentrate on preparing a good car (or start working on 2011) and not whine. They are behaving like the world owes Ferrari
121 EZEIZA : exactly. You can expect this from a new team, not from Ferrari Agreed. Not that Ferrari was much of a challenge at this point, but in RBR .. they mig
122 Post contains images sudden : I think Codeshare means that they basically argued FIA when being told to give the place back to Kubica. Ferrari should just have listened and do wha
123 EZEIZA : But trying to get away with it implies that they knew they were wrong and tried ot use their name to not have to go by the rules. I thinik they belie
124 stealthz : How could they believe that, By his own admission after the pass Alonso knew he was off the track and so did the team, they should not have had to be
125 EZEIZA : Because in their (incorrect) view, Alonso was forced out.
126 stealthz : So was LH at Spa yet Ferrari screamed blue murder to ensure he was punished... and he gave the place back! This episode was another example of the po
127 EZEIZA : you are mixing things. The fact that Ferrari thought they were right this Sunday doesn't imply that they didn't think they were right in another ocas
128 stealthz : OK I will stop comparing but part 2 of my post still stands! In other news it is good to see the rules concerning testing and "filming days" have been
129 Post contains links and images sudden : RBR have put last weekend behind them..... http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/7/11031.html Makes me wonder what the headline about RBR will b
130 Bill142 : It looks awfully crafted to me. I wonder what really went on in the meeting between Horner and Webber.
131 Post contains links sudden : So true so true. I think RBR wants to play it down to not have to see themselves covering the headlines with all the negative stuff that's been going
132 stealthz : Likely commiserated with each other over the BS they are getting from Fuschl am See.
133 Post contains links stealthz : And it just gets better & better.... or worse! http://www.planet-f1.com/news/3213/6...ettel-Should-Be-Crying-Conspiracy- Cheers
134 Bill142 : Wow, this guy is really smoking something. Now of course we're all wrong in thinking that Sebastian Vettel is just hard on his car and that's why it'
135 Post contains links BlueElephant : http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85314 Yamamoto to replace Chandhok at Hockenheim. Sad...I really like Chandhok (more than Senna at least).
136 Post contains links stealthz : Seems the management at Maranello are having difficulty coming to grips with the fact that Ferrari International Assistance has closed for business! T
137 EZEIZA : First of all, what do you expect ferrari.com to say? They still think they were right, and they keep up to their belief. I still think they don't have
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