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Do The Israelis Not Trust The Secret Service?  
User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1832 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1914 times:
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After reading an article in another threat on 4 guns belonging to Netyanyahu's security detail being lost/stolen, it led me to wonder: isn't the Secret Service detailed to protect foreign dignitaries when they're visiting here? Is the Secret Service not the best in the world when it comes to that kind of security? If Netanyahu is going to be recieving Secret Service protection, why the need for extra members of his own security? Do they not think we're good enough?


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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5711 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

I don't honestly know, but I'd say national pride comes into it. Also, if anything were to happen to that dignitary, it would be a little embarrassing to have the blame placed at the foot of the Secret Service. Better to shove the blame elsewhere in such situations.

User currently offlinesevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Thread starter):
Is the Secret Service not the best in the world when it comes to that kind of security?

No, they've failed 4 times.The Secret Service is probably the best in the world, in the USA.



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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1856 times:
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Quoting severnaya (Reply 2):
No, they've failed 4 times.The Secret Service is probably the best in the world, in the USA.



Actually they have failed once. The Secret Service didn't oversee the Presidents protection until after William McKinley was assassinated. JFK was the only president that was killed. Of course there was the Ronald Reagan shooting, as well as an attempt on Gerry Ford, and IIRC there was a grenade thrown on the stage where George W. Bush was speaking in Tbilisi Georgia



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User currently offlinesevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 3):
Actually they have failed once

Okay, fair enough, but still they failed.



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3448 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1795 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 3):
there was a grenade thrown on the stage where George W. Bush was speaking in Tbilisi Georgia

Oh yeah and the shoe throwing incident in Iraq  



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5444 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1778 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Thread starter):
After reading an article in another threat on 4 guns belonging to Netyanyahu's security detail being lost/stolen, it led me to wonder: isn't the Secret Service detailed to protect foreign dignitaries when they're visiting here? Is the Secret Service not the best in the world when it comes to that kind of security? If Netanyahu is going to be recieving Secret Service protection, why the need for extra members of his own security? Do they not think we're good enough?

Ask yourself this question: when POTUS travels, does he rely on the host nation's security forces or does he use the USSS? Heads of state will usually bring some of their own folks along. I don't think it has anything to do with trust, at least not when allies visit the US.

I also think that it is not the USSS that protects visiting heads of state or dignataries, but the Diplomatic Security Service (or something like that).

[Edited 2010-07-07 05:18:31]


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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

I would think that any foreign dignitary would want their own security in the 'inner sanctum'. The last thing they'd want is a Secret Service agent, or any other security force of a foreign nation, eves dropping.

User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 7):
I would think that any foreign dignitary would want their own security in the 'inner sanctum'. The last thing they'd want is a Secret Service agent, or any other security force of a foreign nation, eves dropping.

Indeed. Many years ago when Bush I was visiting Canada, he & then PM Mulroney went to a ball game at the SkyDome. You may recall the event as thousands of people were yelling "Tuna, tuna!" at Mulroney over a scandal involving the sale of tainted tuna fish. Anyhoo, night before I was in a bar in TO and ran into the RCMP security guard for Mulroney, who were not on duty that night. Turns out one was the younger brother of a guy I worked for in the RCMP as an undergrad many moons earlier. So we yacked for a few minutes.

USSS guys were at the table, too, but I can't recall any of them uttering a peep. Just sucked back some good beer.



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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Thread starter):
Do The Israelis Not Trust The Secret Service?

Why should the Israelis trust the Secret Service?

Like everything in the current U.S. administration, absolutely everything is politicized, no doubt including the Secret Service... and given this adminstration's demonstrated attitude toward Israel and Netanyahu's "audacity" to defend his nation against its proven mortal enemies, it would be foolish on their part to place their trust entirely in the Secret Service for their security while on U.S. soil.


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