As much as the Netherlands are way up there on teams 'deserving' to be champions I have a bad feeling about this and we will have to put up with Spain's newly aquired bragging rights in social life and media. LOL. Having said that, the Spanish gave Germany a run for their money and will be a formidable rival in the final.
UALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2532 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5830 times:
"clearly less people in the streets compared to other Spanish cities, but still looks like a decent crowd singing "Barcelona is Spanish"! Laporta probably won't be too happy Wink"
I live in Barcelona. It just bore no comparison with the amount of people in the streets when FC Barcelona wins. (Well, for all purposes, it was FC Barcelona who won yesterday, but that's another story.) The Marca article is predictably biased. Today, coming to work, I saw exactly zero Spanish flags anywhere. And zero people on campus wearing the Spanish shirt. After FC Barcelona won the 2009 Champions League final, there were plenty of people around wearing the blaugrana shirt (including yours truly).
UALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2532 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5773 times:
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 4): enough to piss off the pro-independence
I am pro-independence. And I wasn't pissed off.
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 4): I'd love to see the anti Spanish Barca fans if Cataluña becomes independent from Spain ... the excitment surrpunding a Barca-Palamós must be amazing!
About as much as Barca-Numancia, or Barca-Cadiz. On the other hand, Barca-Chelsea would be as exciting as ever. And, of course, Catalonia-Spain would be extremely interesting. And you know who would win (for now).
TheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3381 posts, RR: 30 Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5764 times:
Might actually be a stupid question, but which language is actually spoken in the Spanish national team, and at the FC Barcelona? I would expect catalan to be spoken at the FC B, but what about the national team? They have many players from Barcelona, so how is it there?
UALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2532 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5756 times:
Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 7): Might actually be a stupid question, but which language is actually spoken in the Spanish national team, and at the FC Barcelona?
There's no question that Spanish is used in the Spanish team. Even at FC Barcelona, I would say that Spanish is probably the lingua franca. Although many of the players do speak Catalan among themselves and with Guardiola.
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 26 Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5717 times:
Quoting UALWN (Reply 6): On the other hand, Barca-Chelsea would be as exciting as ever. And, of course, Catalonia-Spain would be extremely interesting. And you know who would win (for now).
would it? If Barca did not compete in Spain, they would not compete against RM, Valencia, Sevila or At. Madrid. How would Barca manage to make it attractive for palyers to play against Gramenet, Sabadell or Terrasa? Once they stop playing in Spain, the exposure would diminish, the TV audiences would fall, the money would stop flowing. It woudl be the end of Barca as we know it.
BR076 From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5688 times:
Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 10): They even said that he shall also predict the final. Normally Paul is only asked for german games, but this one time he shall also try to predict the final.
as previously shown, the octopus has a preference for Spain, he has 2 times chosen Spain as a winner , first time he was wrong and this time he was right, no doubt he will choose Spain again for the final, but he will be proven wrong and diner after that
david_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7259 posts, RR: 14 Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5642 times:
English referee and linesmen for the Final,. the 1st English referee for the Final since Jack Taylor in 1974 when he took charge of Holland v West Germany and awarded 2 penalties with the 1st being a minute into the game.
UALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2532 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5611 times:
Quoting BR076 (Reply 14): as previously shown, the octopus has a preference for Spain, he has 2 times chosen Spain as a winner , first time he was wrong and this time he was right, no doubt he will choose Spain again for the final, but he will be proven wrong and diner after that
Actually in 2008 Paul chose Germany over Spain and he was wrong., the only time he has been wrong. So, if anything, he's biased against Spain! People in Spain joke that in 2008 Paul was young and still learning his trade. Now he seems to have mastered it.
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 26 Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5578 times:
Quoting UALWN (Reply 20): By playing also against Chelsea, ManU, Milan, Inter, Bayern, etc. Exactly as they do now. Nobody outside Spain gives a damn about a Sevilla-Barca match....
with time, the team would start losing the stars and would end up not playing against Chelsea, Man u, etc ...
Believe me, if Barca does not play the Spanish League, they would nearly dissapear. The same thing would happen if suddenly the Madrid teams would play a separate league. Maybe you believe no one cares about a Sevilla-Barca, but check the tv audiences world wide. Teams like RM, Barcelona, Juve, Man Utd, etc. have huge audiences no matter who they play against, but that would change if they played regional championships only.
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 21): I heard from Laporta that if Catalunya is one day independant, FC Barcelona would still play in the Spanish championship. Exactly like Monaco plays in the French one.
I heard that too, which if it ever happened would be a load of BS. You can't have it both ways, either they can be independent or not, but not in what's convinient and what's not. Monaco is a completely different scenario.
UALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2532 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5562 times:
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 22): I heard that too, which if it ever happened would be a load of BS. You can't have it both ways, either they can be independent or not, but not in what's convinient and what's not.
Really? Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are NOT independent, but they have their own leagues. Who says that an opposite arrangement could not be forged in Spain/Catalonia?
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 22): Believe me, if Barca does not play the Spanish League, they would nearly dissapear.
Believe me, if Barca did not play the Spanish League, it would survive alright. And since I happen to be part-owner ("soci") of FC Barcelona and happen to live in Barcelona, I kind of think that my believes are more realistic than yours. But, hey, you can always hope.
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 22): but that would change if they played regional championships only.
Which they would not, of course. They would keep playing the Champions League, or whatever competition the top 12 soccer clubs in Europe decide to put together.
SpeedBirdA380 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 539 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5556 times:
I think Holland are in a good position because the pressure is off them....most expect Spain (and understandably so) to win the final but the dutch also have some excellent players.
If I was the dutch coach I would be telling them to really have a go at Spain and "get in their faces". Close them down and run hard at them. If you allow Spain to totally dominate like Germany did chance's are you will lose...
Should be a good final...my moneys on Spain but if they play well Holland are certainly capable of winning.
P.s - Is it just me or has it been a pretty disappointing world cup....? I mean we have seen loads of pretty boring games and I can't really think of one stand out game I have really enjoyed. Cant wait for Brazil 2014 though and I will most definatley be going...where better to host a World Cup than Brazil.
25 Sabena332: No, it is not just you! These friggin' annoying horns made me boycott this World Cup for two day, they destroyed the World Cup for me almost complete
26 Luftfahrer: Now that we're talking about the quality of this World Cup... I'd like to add the following: I've just finished watching a review of the World Cup 200
27 Beta: I'd like to take credit for guaranteeing Spain's win over Germany before the game Though the score wasn't 3-1 as I predicted, but it was total and com
28 EZEIZA: I'm not saying it can't happen. Anything can happen ... they could even make them play the French league if they wanted. It shouldn't happen. That's
29 viaggiare: Spain is not invincible —Switzerland beat the furia roja and Chile made them look their worse so far— but could certainly win the Cup. Spain's big
30 viaggiare: Costa Rica didn't make it to this World Cup, but we did beat Switzerland 1–0 at home —Stade de Tourbillon— in a friendly game last month, while
31 JJJ: And you could see by the way he celebrated it that he could barely believe it
32 MadameConcorde: ... yes... and do not forget that Paul the Octopus is British. He was born in Weymouth.
33 UALWN: I will submit that living in Barcelona, knowing personally zillions of Barca supporters and hundreds of Barca part-owners makes it easier for me to p
34 LTU932: Indeed. I mean I tried to follow it as much as possible, but in the end, the horrible sounds of the vuvuzelas, the empty stadiums,the referee decisio
35 flood: Just in on CNN's homepage lol I'd say he got it right
36 thomil13FRA: Probably a last-ditch effort to save himself from the deep fryer. Apparently, octopus recipes are quite popular over here after the tentacle oracle's
37 keesje: In the Netherlands everybody is suprized we won everything despite very average football (compared to qualification and friendly games.) The Dutch nat
38 MadameConcorde: Spain as the big winner? Apparently Mr Octopus also predicted that Germany would beat Uruguay. Wait and see..........
39 MD11Engineer: Are you sure that this is the same Paul? AFAIK their life expectancy is only about two years in the wild (they die after having mated and layed their
40 severnaya: What's this nonsense that he's now also gonna predict matches where die Mannschaft doesn't play? Anway, Paul is bad in predicting outcomes for the fi