Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7737 posts, RR: 27 Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1740 times:
No doubt people have heard about Mad Max's latest troubles - including an alleged tirade against his ex that is pretty darn nasty if it's true (particularly the comment about asking for being raped by a pack of you-know-whats) - is this guy trying to ruin his legacy and career or what? It's like Nick Nolte all over again but with uncontrolled anger. Not to mention that he seems to have told her she "deserved" being hit by him...what a class act!
Apparently his talent agency has had enough and announced they are dropping him - and they wasted no time as this is only a week since his longtime agent passed away.
Gibson's troubles have only increased in recent weeks with allegations of bigoted tirades against blacks and Latinos and reports that he is under investigation for assaulting his ex-girlfriend. Several studio executives have said in the wake of these disclosures that they consider the troubled actor to be untouchable in the industry. "I'd rather get engaged to Lindsay Lohan than have anything to do with him," one studio chief said.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14411 posts, RR: 26 Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1736 times:
Well, that is what you get if you screw with Rahmbo's brother. (Who also happens to be the real life inspiration for Ari Gold)
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
Ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12365 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1694 times:
Modern and lower priced technology including sophicated cell phones, hidden recording devices, video cameras and the internet along with more 'gotcha' news media is making it much more difficult for anyone to get away with certain bad behaviors. For celebs, politicans and those of wealth this is even worse as there is overwhelming invasions of their privacy, people looking to extort them or make money from them. Our financial problems also is making the public want the 'rich' to get their comeuppance.
In the case of Mel Gibson, here is a guy that is rich beyond anyone's dreams. He has been in movies for over 30 years as a major star. He has been a successful producer with one of the great grossing films in the modern era. He also has a dark side, with highly hyprocritical and conterversial views of religion, a serious problem with drugs and alcohol, problems with anger management, relationships with women. He has a father that has expressed extremely conterversial views (denying the holocaust, extreme pre-1965 Roman Catholic faith, moved to Australia in the late 1960's in protest as to the war in Vietnam). I wouldn't doubt his racist/anti-semetic/anti-women views came from his upbringing. I also wonder if he (and his father) have serious mental health problems that are compounded by excessive alcohol use. Then there is his terrible judgement as to women, ditching a long marriage with numerous children for what is basicaly a 'bimbo' , a Russan woman of questionable ethics herself.
I do hope Mel Gibson gets a through investigation as to the allegatoins of physical abuse toward his girlfiend and if true that he goes to jail. He should lose a signifcant amount of his wealth in divorce, civil judgments and acceptance in the Hollywood industry. One cannot get away with the bad behavior once hidden or ignored in Hollywood/entertainment industry as it can equal losing money on a project. He is now box office 'poison' and unless he has a real reform of his life, his career in movies is over.
babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3537 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1676 times:
I think his biggest crime in Hollywood was as a Catholic making Christian films.
He hasn't been doing much lately so I guess he's been hitting the bottle. Alcohol and violence go together. His agency probably dropped him as he's run out of talent.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 20902 posts, RR: 55 Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1667 times:
Quoting babybus (Reply 3): I think his biggest crime in Hollywood was as a Catholic making Christian films.
The great jewish conspiracy at work again? Maybe you should get your tin foil hat to the shop for a re-check.
Hardly. His racist and other bizarre remarks increasingly turned off millions of movie-goers. For me any project with him attached is out of the question since he went down that road.
varigb707 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1229 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1603 times:
that's a shame....Oh well, i guess MG did not learn from his past rants. Good luck to him.
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11436 posts, RR: 81 Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1560 times:
Quoting babybus (Reply 3): I think his biggest crime in Hollywood was as a Catholic making Christian films.
REally? So his bigoted rants and outbursts had nothing to do with this?
While many in Hollywood don't like anyone to their right politically, and resent any intrusion of religion in their "space" I'd have to say that Gibson has managed to persuade a significant number of very conservative (in addition to the very liberal ones and the majority somewhere in the middle) people that he's toxic and doesn't represent the type of person they ought to be financially supporting by buying tickets to his films. Write this down, because Klaus and I are in agreement on something.
Now, if only all those same people felt the same way about Polanski for his violence and paedophilia.
dxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1434 times:
Quoting babybus (Reply 3): He hasn't been doing much lately so I guess he's been hitting the bottle. Alcohol and violence go together. His agency probably dropped him as he's run out of talent.
?? He's had at least one project a year over the past few years either as the actor or the director. He has one in the can and one in production as well as 3 projects underway according to IMDB. I'd call that being pretty busy.
Quoting Klaus (Reply 4): The great jewish conspiracy at work again? Maybe you should get your tin foil hat to the shop for a re-check.
Don't think the Jews had as much to do with that as liberals in Hollywood.
Quoting Klaus (Reply 4): Hardly. His racist and other bizarre remarks increasingly turned off millions of movie-goers. For me any project with him attached is out of the question since he went down that road.
Agreed. No matter how good his acting/directing/producing talents are, his personal life is going to end up overshadowing a stellar career in film.
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7737 posts, RR: 27 Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1412 times:
Quoting dxing (Reply 8): Don't think the Jews had as much to do with that as liberals in Hollywood.
Well this time it does as the company that dropped him is run by a Jewish guy and he made no bones about being PO'd by Mel's past comments. Especially in a town like LA - can't pull that crap.
Quoting dxing (Reply 8): Agreed. No matter how good his acting/directing/producing talents are, his personal life is going to end up overshadowing a stellar career in film.
Really sad actually when a 50-something guy with all the success in the world still can't get it together. Was watching an interview with LeBron James the other day where he was talking about "if you have your priorities straight, it's really easy to stay on the straight and narrow" and thought "why don't these other guys get that?? Instead they just hit the bottle or shoot up or hit someone whenever they can't handle it.
If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14411 posts, RR: 26 Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1386 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 9): Well this time it does as the company that dropped him is run by a Jewish guy
And what I would call the most stereotypical Jewish family I know no less. One brother is Obama's chief of staff, another is a prominent doctor, and the third is an agent in Hollywood.
Anyway, being an anti-Semite in show business has to be pretty difficult.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
dxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1375 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 9): Was watching an interview with LeBron James the other day where he was talking about "if you have your priorities straight, it's really easy to stay on the straight and narrow"
Says the guy who just showed everyone where his priorities really are!!! Want to get your ass kicked, where a t-shirt in Cleveland with "LeBron is my hero" on one side and "Art Modell is a God" on the other!! You'd be lucky to make it a block.
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7737 posts, RR: 27 Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1373 times:
Quoting dxing (Reply 11): Says the guy who just showed everyone where his priorities really are!!! Want to get your ass kicked, where a t-shirt in Cleveland with "LeBron is my hero" on one side and "Art Modell is a God" on the other!!
They were discussing temptations like women, drugs, violence, and a bad circle of friends at the time in the interview. He may only be 25 but his head is on straight with regard to that stuff a lot more than can be said for Mr. Gibson. I don't think Mr. James has ever hidden the fact that he's after money and being #1 in the game...that's certainly his priority.
If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
dxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1369 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 12): They were discussing temptations like women, drugs, violence, and a bad circle of friends at the time in the interview. He may only be 25 but his head is on straight with regard to that stuff a lot more than can be said for Mr. Gibson.
We'll see what happens when he gets away from his Mom. She's the one that's been keeping his head on straight.
KevinL1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1348 times:
Quoting dxing (Reply 8): Don't think the Jews had as much to do with that as liberals in Hollywood.
What's the difference?
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 10): And what I would call the most stereotypical Jewish family I know no less. One brother is Obama's chief of staff, another is a prominent doctor, and the third is an agent in Hollywood.
No Attorneys?
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 10): Anyway, being an anti-Semite in show business has to be pretty difficult.
Once you attain name recognition and "Box Office Draw" status, personal beliefs are secondary. Trying to move up in the entertainment world without name recognition will be difficult for any outspoken anti-Semite or bigot (comedians may be the exception). Mel however has already attained Box Office status and is marketable and potentially profitable.
Professionals of Jewish decent have dealt with anti-semitism all their lives and have learned to separate business from their personal beliefs, as long as it stays behind closed doors. Once the rags get hold of it, it's cursed. I'm sure Mel knew of his future agencies heritage just by the name and don't you think the agency knew of his prejudice after making "The Passion of Christ"? The agency was smart to cut bait on this loose cannon. They risk losing other clients who may be Jewish and profitable.
OA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4998 posts, RR: 25 Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1321 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter): Just more proof that Hollywood is really off its rocker.
How so? I'm the last guy to defend Hollywood types, but I don't believe that this proves that Hollywood is off its collective rocker. Mel Gibson, yes, but not necessarily all of Hollywood.
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 10): And what I would call the most stereotypical Jewish family I know no less. One brother is Obama's chief of staff, another is a prominent doctor, and the third is an agent in Hollywood.
All they needed was an attorney, and the Emmanuel family would be the poster children for every last Jewish stereotype out there.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14411 posts, RR: 26 Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1315 times:
Even they are probably not true bigots for the most part. I'm not but that doesn't stop me from making wisecracks about racial and religious stereotypes.
Quoting OA412 (Reply 15): All they needed was an attorney, and the Emmanuel family would be the poster children for every last Jewish stereotype out there.
Ari Emanuel seems to be one of the relatively few talent or sports agents who isn't a lawyer.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13369 posts, RR: 64 Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1278 times:
Not that his movies were stellar either. I remember having watched one of the "Die Hard" movies (the one set at an airport) with a bunch of (drunk) freelance aircraft mechanics. We were all rolling on the floor laughing due to all the inconsitencies and BS sprouted in the movie.
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7737 posts, RR: 27 Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1278 times:
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 17): I remember having watched one of the "Die Hard" movies (the one set at an airport) with a bunch of (drunk) freelance aircraft mechanics. We were all rolling on the floor laughing due to all the inconsitencies and BS sprouted in the movie.
That was Bruce Willis though - and he's a pretty classy guy.
If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13369 posts, RR: 64 Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1272 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 18): Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 17):
I remember having watched one of the "Die Hard" movies (the one set at an airport) with a bunch of (drunk) freelance aircraft mechanics. We were all rolling on the floor laughing due to all the inconsitencies and BS sprouted in the movie.
That was Bruce Willis though - and he's a pretty classy guy.
OOPS! I confused the two of them. Now, I rarely watch movies anyway.
Airport From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 1397 posts, RR: 9 Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1238 times:
I'm not going to pretend like I know the whole story, from his perspective or his wife's. If Mel Gibson makes a good movie that I find to be enjoyable to watch, then I'm going to watch it. I couldn't care less about his personal life, it's not really any of my business. Maybe he's a jerk, maybe he isn't. I've heard a lot of personal stories about people who've met Mel Gibson, and say that he's actually a decent guy. I'll take those stories, like this story, all with nothing more than a grain of salt, because I've never met him, and I don't know his story.
Ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12365 posts, RR: 12 Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1226 times:
This guy has hit a preverse jackpot as to how to ruin a career not just in entertainment but any other place or work. Sexism, abuse of women, anti-Semitism, racism, drug/alcohol abuse, has conterversial religous beliefs and run in's with the law. About the only things that could be worse for him would be to murder someone, make a homophobic comment or be caught in a sexual way with an underaged women or any age male. He has ticked off such a broad range of people, who is left to support him? I bet his children and ex-wife even want to disown any connection to him (except for his money).
Mel Gibson needs to go off to a long-term residential rehab with his apparent alcohol and psychlogical problems. Then after that, just go away from the public view.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12736 posts, RR: 79 Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
Just a creep.
Overrated as an actor.
Admittedly an element of schadenfreude with me given those awful, massively (even by Hollywood standards) inaccurate anglophobe films he's associted with.
He seems to have a problem with Jews, English, African Americans, Women and of course, the bottle.
The question should be - why is he still at least something of a player?
If the nonsense above about his 'crime' of making Christian films in Hollywood had any truth, how did be bounce back from previous offensive escapades - including anti semtic ones?
An answer from Babybus would be nice, clear thinking preferred if possible (not hopeful on that however).
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