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Mom 'Proud' Of Her Just-Caught "Barefoot Bandit"  
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

By now everyone has heard of this 19 year-old kid who stole his way from WA to IN, only to end up in the Bahamas after flying himself there. A difficult feat, yes, but at last he has finally been caught.

Police captured American teenager before dawn Sunday following a high-speed boat chase in off Eleuthera, one of two sparsely populated tourist islands where he allegedly committed a string of burglaries since crash-landing a plane in the Bahamas a week earlier.

It was only the latest caper for the teen from rural Camano Island, Washington, who is suspected of stealing cars, boats and at least five airplanes during a run from the law that began with his 2008 escape from a halfway house.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...g0HuCqAC4S1vDdZDuEso6S73QD9GTONV01

Now despite the fact this young guy is obviously pretty smart to have done all this, he's also a hell of a crook. What say ye about this reaction from his mother though - who apparently is very proud of her son. She did express that she's glad he was caught since she doesn't have to worry about his safety any longer, and anyone can understand that, but she goes on to say that she's proud he was able to learn to fly by himself:

"I just want to hug him," she said. "I'm proud that he can fly planes with no lessons. You're damn right I am."

Kohler said, as a boy, Harris-Moore loved animals and dreamed of having his own airport. She also provided childhood drawings and a Mother’s Day card from her son.


Just don't know what to make of that! Sounds like quite the interesting family...truth is truly stranger than fiction.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/24008105/detail.html


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User currently offlineFX772LRF From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 675 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

I respect him for what he did. It took a lot of courage to do what he did. As was stated above, he must be extremely smart.

I was actually talking to my dad today, and he told me about this whole story, and he mentioned that he was flying planes that he stole. I looked at him and said "You know how he learned? Flight Simulator." It's sort of unreal how Flight Simulator can train people to fly.

Also, one of the planes he stole was from KBMG, in Bloomington, Indiana. I actually just moved from there, to where I'm currently located. From what I remember, I was actually in town when he stole the plane. The amazing thing is that BMG just recently installed 10 foot fences, with steel gates and doors, which all have combination keypads. It'll be interesting to learn how he got around that.

I don't condone what he did exactly, but I do respect him for it.

-Noah.   



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2200 times:
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Quoting FX772LRF (Reply 1):
I don't condone what he did exactly, but I do respect him for it.

Why?

He's screwed up his life... perhaps with an adverse impact on his immediate family... He robbed his way across country... Committed a number of home invasions.. Threatened to shoot at least one person..

Could've ended up dead half a dozen different ways... & flight simulator might help someone learn how to manipulate the controls of an aircraft but it doesn't teach anyone how to fly....



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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

Great. She can put up a sign on the back of her SUV that says "My son is a convicted felon and I'm proud of it".

User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

She can feel anyway she wants too about her son...but I think she should have just kept that "pride" to herself.

Quoting FX772LRF (Reply 1):
I don't condone what he did exactly, but I do respect him for it.

I can't respect anyone that steals from others.


User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6371 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

Based on what I have read, had she been a better mother, her kid would not have been such a "F up" in life

Quoting FX772LRF (Reply 1):
I respect him for what he did. It took a lot of courage to do what he did.

Yes yes, those admirable criminals. I have so much respect for people who rob from hard working people.


User currently offlineFX772LRF From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 675 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2160 times:

Quoting sw733 (Reply 5):
Yes yes, those admirable criminals. I have so much respect for people who rob from hard working people.
Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 4):
I can't respect anyone that steals from others.
Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 2):

I think I meant to put it as I think it's sort of "cool" in a way. It's just interesting how someone can evade police for two years, at his age.

I'll agree that I don't respect anyone that steals from others. I just meant to put it as I think what he did was interesting.

-Noah.   



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

It's not very "cool" either, especially if you were one of his victims.

User currently offlineFX772LRF From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 675 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 7):
It's not very "cool" either, especially if you were one of his victims.

Well, it's an opinion. You don't have to agree with it.

-Noah.   



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Both of them should be locked up. Him for all the crap he pulled, and her for being supportive of it. Fox has gone after the rights to a movie about this whole thing - I hope that it never sees the light of day, but if it does, I hope the two of them never see a single cent of the profits before they both get their lives back in order and start contributing to society instead of taking from it.

Quoting FX772LRF (Reply 6):
I think I meant to put it as I think it's sort of "cool" in a way.


I don't consider stealing and crashing airplanes to be a particularly cool thing to do. He's obviously not an idiot - how about if he did something useful with his intelligence rather than joyriding and destroying the property of others. That would be cool.

Quoting FX772LRF (Reply 1):
It's sort of unreal how Flight Simulator can train people to fly.

Well, he couldn't land worth a damn. Like most FS pilots (nothing against FS, or those who play it, but it is a piss-poor way to learn how to land).

-Mir



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User currently offlineFX772LRF From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 675 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2092 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
Both of them should be locked up. Him for all the crap he pulled, and her for being supportive of it. Fox has gone after the rights to a movie about this whole thing - I hope that it never sees the light of day, but if it does, I hope the two of them never see a single cent of the profits before they both get their lives back in order and start contributing to society instead of taking from it.

I agree.

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
Well, he couldn't land worth a damn. Like most FS pilots (nothing against FS, or those who play it, but it is a piss-poor way to learn how to land).

Yeah, it's not going to make anyone into a world-class pilot, but it can help people along - which might be bad thing. It sort of gives people the wrong message, and it makes it seem like if they can fly in FS, they can fly in the real world.

-Noah.   



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 3014 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

Quoting FX772LRF (Reply 1):
I respect him for what he did.

You cant be serious

Quoting FX772LRF (Reply 1):
I don't condone what he did exactly, but I do respect him for it.

So you do or you don't ?
I can't understand how you could have any respect for this moron. The cost to the community and individuals is enormous, all caused by this twit.
Lets hope they lock him up for a long time, that way he can think about the hassle he has caused so many.

And as for is mother, lock her up as well, just for being dumb !



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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

Wow, what a story......


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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2055 times:

I have a lot of respect for his innate talents and ability. Much as I respect the grizzly bear for being a giant, territorial predator, or the murderous terrorist who's planting IEDs in roadways.....I respect their ability to hurt me, and will plan accordingly. As a person I have zero respect for this kid, but some sympathy. I don't think he's been raised right at all, and is acting out as a result of a completely undisciplined upbringing.

At some point, however, he has to take responsibility. Stealing and flying that airplane endangered people across the country. He wasn't qualified to fly it and couldn't have done the right thing if things hadn't gone smoothly.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20336 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
I have a lot of respect for his innate talents and ability.

Bingo. But I'm hoping the U.S. government does, too. This kid would make a great special ops/intelligence agent. Many times, kids like this need to be shown to use their skills appropriately, and he has a lot of skills. It would be a shame to lock him up when he could actually be very useful.

He's not evil and murderous. He's not assaulted anyone or harmed anyone in any way. He is, however, obviously very smart, very under-challenged, and nobody taught him how to behave as a civilized member of society.

If someone in the CIA or DoD is smart, they will figure out how to give this kid an out of his sentence... if he works for them.


User currently offlineFX772LRF From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 675 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
I have a lot of respect for his innate talents and ability.
That's what I was going for!

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 11):
You cant be serious

I am, but I didn't phrase it right. DL021 said it the way I wanted it to come across.

I respect his abilities, but I don't respect or condone what he did with them.

I hope that makes things clear. I don't respect anyone that steals or endangers people.

-Noah.   



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2012 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
This kid would make a great special ops/intelligence agent.

You've been watching too many movies...



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 3014 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
He's not assaulted anyone or harmed anyone in any way.

Well he did endanger a lot of peoples lives by flying, when he's not entitled to do so !

What would you have said about him if he had crashed and killed someone ?



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
Both of them should be locked up. Him for all the crap he pulled, and her for being supportive of it. Fox has gone after the rights to a movie about this whole thing - I hope that it never sees the light of day, but if it does, I hope the two of them never see a single cent of the profits before they both get their lives back in order and start contributing to society instead of taking from it.

They did a movie about Frank Abagnale with "Catch Me If You Can". So not as far fetched as you might think.

Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
She did express that she's glad he was caught since she doesn't have to worry about his safety any longer, and anyone can understand that

Unless he gets gang raped in the prison shower.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
If someone in the CIA or DoD is smart, they will figure out how to give this kid an out of his sentence... if he works for them.

Why? I wouldn't want to work along side this guy.   


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
If someone in the CIA or DoD is smart, they will figure out how to give this kid an out of his sentence... if he works for them

Let me guess your favorite movie is catch me if I can? From what I read he cried like a bitch when he was caught so I don't want him doing anything for this country except scrubbing the floors of his cell block after he has been passed around for smokes. What has he done that makes him so qualified to be CIA? He hid in the woods and stole from people.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
If someone in the CIA or DoD is smart, they will figure out how to give this kid an out of his sentence... if he works for them.

Sorry, I'm not quite sure how successful burglarizing on many occasions gives someone the necessary background for intelligence.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
As a person I have zero respect for this kid, but some sympathy. I don't think he's been raised right at all, and is acting out as a result of a completely undisciplined upbringing.

Totally agree. They were showing this woman's home earlier - and she seems to be a bit of a nutcase. She has retained an attorney to advance her "entertainment interests" yet she put a sign in front of her property for the news media that reads "anyone who goes past this point will be shot". Certainly not who I'd like to have for a mother!



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 20):

Sorry, I'm not quite sure how successful burglarizing on many occasions gives someone the necessary background for intelligence.

Agree. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the things he's done. Boats and airplanes are a cinch to break into, hot-wire and steal. The only thing, IMHO, that's kept him on the lam for so long is extreme teenage hubris.



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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1953 times:

Quoting FX772LRF (Reply 1):
I respect him for what he did. It took a lot of courage to do what he did. As was stated above, he must be extremely smart.

You wouldn't be saying that if he plowed into a house after takeoff or during his decent into to paradise.

Quoting comorin (Reply 3):

  

Quoting sw733 (Reply 5):
Based on what I have read, had she been a better mother, her kid would not have been such a "F up" in life

  

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
Both of them should be locked up. Him for all the crap he pulled, and her for being supportive of it.

  

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):

So, in other words, you agree with his mother.  

He won't learn by being rewarded with a government job. He made some serious mistakes and he has to suffer the consequences of his actions. Being the "obviously very smart" kid that he his, he is smart enough to know right from wrong. Maybe when he has served his time and straightens himself out, then he can apply his life skills to improve society or whatever the hell you think he's capable of.



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1952 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
This kid would make a great special ops/intelligence agent. Many times, kids like this need to be shown to use their skills appropriately, and he has a lot of skills. It would be a shame to lock him up when he could actually be very useful.

I was actually thinking this. He did everything the wrong/hard way but obviously has a talent of breaking into things.

Its not uncommon for thieves and criminals to work for the FBI/CIA...If the kid is groomed for it I bet he's got a lot of potential.


If not, I bet he's going to make a lot of money selling his life story to some producers / write a book.

Catch Me If You Can 2 anyone?


User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1918 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 18):
They did a movie about Frank Abagnale with "Catch Me If You Can". So not as far fetched as you might think.

LOL you beat me too it. Have you ever read the book? The movie does not really do it justice. I saw the movie and read the book and the book I can assure you that you wont put it down until you read it cover to cover. It was really amazing. Of course he could never have got away with what he did with todays technology but a great read and Abagnale was hired to help catch people for bank fraud I believe.



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25 BMI727 : He has now made millions as a consultant helping to design more secure documents. I wonder how proud she would be if he killed himself flying a plane
26 KPDX : This. Even though what he did was very criminal, no one can lie what he did was amazing. Now if only he didn't corner himself in the Bahamas, who kno
27 fridgmus : BINGO DOC! My thoughts exactly! Yes, he should be punished, but afterward, he should be rehabilitated and his abilities put to good use. Just imagine
28 Post contains links MD-90 : I think there are too many people responding to this thread who have watched too much TV regarding government service and who they seek as agents. I'l
29 Post contains images KevinL1011 : Anyone know what his A.net user name is?
30 Maverick623 : A ladder, or running start? As mentioned before; Catch Me If You Can. No, he wouldn't. His ego is way too big. Except he didn't, which automatically
31 Ltbewr : There has probably been $500,000 or more paid in insurance claims due to this clown's actions. Various USA states and now the Country of the Bahamas h
32 Post contains images Mir : I'm aware of that. But the thought of the family making a profit off of his choice to be a thief is ridiculous. What sort of message does that send?
33 BlueElephant : You're absolutely correct. I'm not condoning what this kid did....I think it was criminal and he should be punished. But as mentioned above he should
34 DL021 : I was thinking along those same lines. Perhaps there's some ways he can compensate his victims and move on to be productive with his life. It does so
35 Post contains images DL021 : Not really...the kid has displayed resourcefulness, determination, stamina and a certain insouciance that has enabled him to get away with this crap
36 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : This kid has resorted to crime and has shown he only puts himself first and doesn't give a damn about anyone else. This kid is NOT someone I would wa
37 canoecarrier : I still can't believe some of you still like this guy. I live in the Seattle area and have heard about this kid since his life of crime became public
38 F9Animal : Alright, does anyone know what kind of aircraft he stole to get to the Bahamas? Must have had an impressive range!
39 FlyDeltaJets87 : Not if he stole it in Florida. The islands of the Bahamas are a very short hop from Southern Florida.
40 ER757 : Doc, I usually see pretty much eye to eye with things you post, but we're going to have to part ways on this one. If you've ever been a victim of a b
41 4holer : I think it is ironic that the mother takes boundaries and law so seriously when it comes to her own property (threatening sign), but when it comes to
42 DL021 : Ego and Id both play a part in the drive necessary to be a soldier. If the kid ever learns ethics and consequence and refines his displayed skillset
43 ShyFlyer : I've only seen the type mentioned once as a Cessna 400 Corvalis (nee Columbia 400). In theory, yes, it is possible that he can become a productive me
44 ZANL188 : Not really.... I suspect nobody made a concerted effort to stop this guy. The lack of good judgement you mention is what makes him a poor choice for
45 MD-90 : The 2009 Cessna Corvalis TT that he stole and destroyed alone was worth more than that. Cessna.com's minimum price for a new Corvalis TT is $644,500.
46 Post contains images FX772LRF : He stole the Corvalis from BMG, correct? If so, I've probably seen the plane. Sort of a weird feeling, actually. -Noah.
47 TheCol : I doubt the FAA would agree with you.
48 JBirdAV8r : Eh? You can do either at approximately the same time. Maybe I just have life backwards. Maybe engineering is easier than handling baggage.
49 rottenray : Not to pick fault, but a scoff-law nonetheless. If he had any respect for aviation, he would have done what other respected pilots have done time and
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