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Former VP Cheney Has Heart Pump Implanted  
User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

Former U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney published a press release today regarding his ongoing medical condition:

“As many of you know, I have dealt with coronary artery disease for decades, suffering my first heart attack in 1978 at age 37,” Cheney said in a statement. “Over the years, excellent care from my doctors and advances in medicine and technology have allowed me to live a full and active life, for which I am very grateful. A few weeks ago, it became clear that I was entering a new phase of the disease when I began to experience increasing congestive heart failure. After a series of recent tests and discussions with my doctors, I decided to take advantage of one of the new technologies available and have a Left Ventricular Assist Device implanted. The LVAD is a small implantable pump that improves heart function and will enable me to resume an active life.”

According to cardiologists, Cheney will carry the LVAD pump with him for the rest of his life and will literally plug himself (the pump) into a wall socket every night to charge the LVAD. On another note, he will no longer have a discernible "pulse" due to this implant.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39747.html

I wish the former Vice-President all the best.

Although, I do have the add the comment my best friend (a rabid Democrat) just remarked to me: "Who knew Cheney actually had a heart?".


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19927 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1650 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):

I wish the former Vice-President all the best.

It's amazing that we can do this. It really is. We couldn't do this as recently as five years ago. An LVAD was a briefcase-sized object that was a temporizing measure until a donor heart could be found for transplant.

I do wonder, what the former VP's views are on the question as to whether all Americans should have access to such healthcare as he is (probably not really) enjoying right now.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8181 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
It's amazing that we can do this. It really is. We couldn't do this as recently as five years . An LVAD was a briefcase-sized object that was a temporizing measure until a donor heart could be found for transplant.

Who knows...by the time we're in our senior years and subject to CHF, the doctors just might be able to grow replacement heart tissue and structures right out of our own DNA.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21677 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
According to cardiologists, Cheney will carry the LVAD pump with him for the rest of his life and will literally plug himself (the pump) into a wall socket every night to charge the LVAD. On another note, he will no longer have a discernible "pulse" due to this implant.

"He is more machine than man...."



Seriously, though, it is amazing what modern medicine can do, and I hope it goes well for him.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19927 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1587 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 2):

Who knows...by the time we're in our senior years and subject to CHF, the doctors just might be able to grow replacement heart tissue and structures right out of our own DNA.

Not if we can't do stem cell research. Can't grow organs without stem cells.

Did you know that even if you transplant a kidney from one identical twin to another, the recipient will still require immunosuppressive meds?


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12515 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

They found a heart?

Yes, modern medicine truly is miraculous!


User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
Not if we can't do stem cell research. Can't grow organs without stem cells.

As you know I'm staunchly Conservative (not Republican) and it drives me nuts that we don't pursue Stem Cell research. The ethical questions can go on and on, but the fact is, if we can reproduce our own organs (not full clones of ourselves) then why the hell not. The body would not reject our own liver.   

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
Although, I do have the add the comment my best friend (a rabid Democrat) just remarked to me: "Who knew Cheney actually had a heart?".

   I'm no Liberal or Democrat, but that's funny!



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19927 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

Well, obviously I don't know any details about the case, but the device that they implanted was probably this one or something similar:

http://www.thoratec.com/medical-prof...information/heartmate-ll-lvad.aspx

An artificial heart. Pretty cool!


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8322 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1524 times:

I can remember in the early 60s I was in Houston when DeBakey put the first patient on a pump. There was actually a TV show that evening (about 7 PM) showing the surgery. I think the objective at that time was to allow the patient's heart to "rest" for a few weeks then go back to his own resources.

Not that long after than Christian Bernard (sp?) in South Africa performed the first actual heart transplant and I can remember seeing the patient holding his heart up in a jar. Unfortunately the knowledge on avoiding rejection was far behind the good doctor's skills.

The question now is how much of the advances in technology that Cheney benefitted from today came from taxpayer dollars funding research? Socialized medicine at its best - and a solid result that even Cheney's significant wealth couldn't pay for without taxpayer's help.


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 984 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
It's amazing that we can do this. It really is. We couldn't do this as recently as five years ago. An LVAD was a briefcase-sized object that was a temporizing measure until a donor heart could be found for transplant.

Even with these new implants, isn't the survival time usually measured in a few months?

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
Although, I do have the add the comment my best friend (a rabid Democrat) just remarked to me: "Who knew Cheney actually had a heart?".

Well, no, you didn't. But you did anyway. When Cheney does pass - which could be soon for all we know - it will be marked with far more grave dancing than is becoming of a statesman.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
Not if we can't do stem cell research. Can't grow organs without stem cells.

Whose stopping you? It's a common talking point that the Bush administration killed stem cell research, but they did nothing of the sort.


User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2558 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
He is more machine than man...."

That's so ironic that you posted that along with Obi Wan's photo - my very first thought when I saw the subject line was "he's more like Darth Vader every day."


User currently offlinemdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4125 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 9):
Even with these new implants, isn't the survival time usually measured in a few months?

It's more than a few months now as the devices are more sophisticated now. LVADs still aren't extending survival for many years. As DocLightning stated they are really meant as temporary measures until a heart transplant can be performed. However with Cheney's age and co-morbidities, transplant really isn't an option.

So...his time is quite limited.



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User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1442 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 10):
That's so ironic that you posted that along with Obi Wan's photo - my very first thought when I saw the subject line was "he's more like Darth Vader every day."

Exactly also my thoughts.  

Axel



Wer nichts weiss muss alles glauben
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19927 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 9):

Even with these new implants, isn't the survival time usually measured in a few months?

I don't know. It seems to be a device designed to last 3-5 years...


User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
t's amazing that we can do this. It really is. We couldn't do this as recently as five years ago. An LVAD was a briefcase-sized object that was a temporizing measure until a donor heart could be found for transplant.

My jaw dropped as I read this, I used to fly Pt's with LVADs on the Helo, that as you stated, were waiting on a heart transplant, and they were big and a pain in the ass.


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