Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Oliver Stone Blames Jewish Control Of The Media...  
User currently offlinezrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3175 posts, RR: 9
Posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

Oliver Stone blames Jewish control of the media for misunderstood Hitler.


This is pretty sad. I used to respect him.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/hollywo...media_for_misunderstood_hitler_20/


14 year airliners.net vet! 2000-2013
18 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently onlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8165 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2321 times:

His comments might have been on the money 30 or 40 years ago but Hollywood has a pretty diverse pool of investors these days, especially after all the conglomerization that has hit the entertainment industry the last two decades.

Stone has always been teetering on that fine line between genius and insanity and he appears to have stepped over it here. Of course, he's correct about Hitler having offed more Russians than Jews, but that's not really the point and besides he's inconsistent. What about gypsies? What about gays? What about the mentally ill and handicapped? He missed the point entirely - Hitler wasn't misunderstood - he was an abject failure of power and ambition gone terribly, murderously wrong. Kinda strange that a film director of Stone's caliber apparently hasn't seen "Downfall"...



If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2319 times:

Oliver Stone's been a conspiracy theorist for a while now - I think we learned that when he released JFK back in 1991.


Hydrogen is an odorless, colorless gas which, given enough time, turns into people.
User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2298 times:

Hmmm... that article seems quite biased to me. This sounds like he said something that's been taken out of context, or poorly worded. Of course, "misunderstood Hitler" as the article puts it implies that Stone gives Hitler a sympathetic look. That's not at all the case as you read on, so right there the article loses credibility for me. It sounds like Stone (in bad form) was trying to say that Jews weren't the only ones who suffered massacres, and that a lot of the destruction that came out of Germany is generally misunderstood as to who all was impacted.

That's my take, anyway, I don't know the guy.

Cheers,
Anthony/Airport


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19802 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2289 times:

If there is a Jewish World Conspiracy, I am very upset because I have not been included.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25538 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2273 times:

Funny I just saw the man at Sunday's farmers market.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2818 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 2):
Oliver Stone's been a conspiracy theorist for a while now - I think we learned that when he released JFK back in 1991.

What I thought was funny was reading Roger Ebert's review of JFK at the time of its release where he loved it because he was a full on conspiracist. When the movie was rereleased a decade later, Ebert had quietly backtracked and said that the validity of the conspiracy theory was unimportant to how wonderful the movie was (never seen it myself).


User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7444 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
If there is a Jewish World Conspiracy, I am very upset because I have not been included.

I thought you didn't like being jewish?


User currently offlineEl-Al From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1313 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
If there is a Jewish World Conspiracy, I am very upset because I have not been included.

        



"In Israel, on order to be a realist, one's must believe in miracles" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlinejfk69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
If there is a Jewish World Conspiracy, I am very upset because I have not been included.

Yeah, me as well. Where is my Hollywood job??


User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6758 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

Others lost more lives than the Jewish race? No-one can deny that.

According to this

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

around 50-55million died in WW2 broken down as follows

* USSR: 20.0M
* China: 10.45M
* Poland: 5.8M
* Germany: 5.5M
* India: 2.15M
* Japan: 1.9M
* Yugoslavia: 1.55M

Jews killed by the Nazis is around 6 million and other "undesirables" probably number around 750k to 1 million.

But the Jews weren't being fought against in a war. They were members of a civilian population targeted because of their religion and who they were, regardless of nationality. This doesn't make the millions lost in other countries any less tragic, but looking dispassionately, deaths in another country when you're fighting that country are a natural consequence.


From what I've read, the impression is that many Nazis did what they thought Hitler would like done (to curry favour, climb the career ladder, get their own power) rather than what he asked for and there were certainly enough who wanted to eliminate the Jews, communists, etc, etc.

Were others more evil than Hitler? Probably. But he was the leader and voice of the odious regime that had no compunction about killing anyone.

http://www.lidice-memorial.cz/default_en.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane


Anyway, I'm slowly working through

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Origins-Fina...UTF8&s=books&qid=1280230014&sr=8-5

which is pretty much a forensic breakdown of who did what and when in the first half of the war. Chilling when the initial intention was the mass deportation of Jews to the outer reaches of the Reich (whether they actually arrived alive at the other end was of minor consequence) and it was only later when the systematic industrialised murder was introduced, when deportations took too long.


Is OS's rant aimed at stirring for the sake of publicity because of his film? It's hard to say there's any lack of conclusive evidence about what happened and who did what.



Incidentally, would you use this company for your computer needs?
http://www.finalsolution.co.uk/



wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17546 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

He also blames the media for the misunderstood Hugo Chavez, so this isn't that far fetched.


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10486 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2056 times:

Later the same day, Stone makes this statement.................


http://www.jewishjournal.com/hollywo..._about_jewish_domination_20100726/



Which side will he be on, next?



"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10751 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

I dont know if the media is controlled by Jews, Sikhs, Christians or Klingons.
I only know its controlled by the wealthy of whatever religion.


User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1899 times:

Now this is pretty funny...

http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-...d-join-mel-gibson-retirement-19614

Haim Saban is trying to get Showtime to cancel their airing of Stone's new miniseries "A Secret History of America." Because the perfect way to refute a claim that wealthy Jews control the media is to have a wealthy Jewish media mogul try to kick the guy off the air.

Maybe his irony detector is broken...



Hydrogen is an odorless, colorless gas which, given enough time, turns into people.
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19802 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 7):

I thought you didn't like being jewish?

If I got to run a part of the Conspiracy, I might like it more.   


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6818 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 1):
Stone has always been teetering on that fine line between genius and insanity and he appears to have stepped over it here.

Cockoo for cocoa puffs, crazy.

Quoting na (Reply 13):
I dont know if the media is controlled by Jews, Sikhs, Christians or Klingons.
I only know its controlled by the wealthy of whatever religion.

You may call it the "ruling class."


User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2673 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
If there is a Jewish World Conspiracy, I am very upset because I have not been included.

You want you should be included? Show up maybe at shul sometimes, you assimilated slovotnik!!      



Pancakes are delicious.
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19802 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 17):

You want you should be included? Show up maybe at shul sometimes, you assimilated slovotnik!!

OMG, that was pretty good!


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Dems Win Control Of The Senate posted Thu Nov 9 2006 03:10:36 by Dtwclipper
The Fairness Of The Media: posted Sat Aug 28 2004 08:46:30 by SHUPirate1
Excellent Review Of The Liberal Media posted Tue Dec 22 2009 10:01:57 by Avent
Media Coverage Of The Olympics - How Was It? posted Mon Aug 30 2004 17:00:51 by Jsmith
The Return Of The Winnipeg Jets posted Fri May 7 2010 03:10:01 by connies4ever
In Honour Of The UK Election.... posted Wed May 5 2010 08:45:00 by Andz
Disgusting Story Of The Year... posted Fri Apr 30 2010 22:44:56 by futurepilot16
Oasis Of The Seas posted Fri Apr 16 2010 18:17:52 by will777
What Is With All Of The Opposition To The Census? posted Thu Apr 1 2010 23:28:42 by HercTech
Backdown Of The Week Award posted Tue Mar 30 2010 08:18:54 by Baroque