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Tortured Maid With 24 Nails In Body Pass Through RUH Airport  
User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4814 times:

This event took place a few days ago. A Sri Lankan maid was tortured and hammered 24 nails into her body in Saudi Arabia after she complained of too heavy workload.
Reuters report at http://bit.ly/cUKrcZ
Let alone the brutality of this event, a key question local media and authorities have been asking is - how did she pass the Riyadh airport scans ?
Aren't the metal nails detected through them ?
The local media showed the X Ray scans of the maid clearly showing considerably sized nails in her body.

[Edited 2010-08-26 02:13:24]


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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1857 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4740 times:

Perhaps the nails, which are relatively small in size are pressed deep within the maid's flesh to cause any metal detection. Or perhaps she was manually checked after sounding an alarm in the security?


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User currently offlinekeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

Many Saudies aren't any better then the Taliban. However they have oil and Billions they spend in the West. I'm hardly intersted how she got through security, the more what action is taken against a government that closes it eyes for events like these and whats behind it.

User currently offlineBooDog From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4302 times:

Quoting skord (Reply 3):

They're not being insensitive. We are all stunned and sickened by what happened to the lady. They're simply answering the question that's been asked by the person starting this thread.

I'm just thankful this lady was able to escape her torturers.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4267 times:

Quoting keesje (Reply 2):
Many Saudies aren't any better then the Taliban. However they have oil and Billions they spend in the West. I'm hardly intersted how she got through security, the more what action is taken against a government that closes it eyes for events like these and whats behind it.




  

I was thinking the same.
This is absolutely sickening to read!
I've heard of similar stories just like this coming out of Saudi Arabia.



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User currently offlinekeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4195 times:

In the place I live she would have been rushed to the nearest hospital and helped, regardless of her origins, income, social record or even criminaliteit status. The one who did it would be behind bars in hours, even if they were the royal family.

Any backgrounds on this case?


User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4069 times:

As per reports, the home owner had hired her in violation of Sri Lankan embassy regulations ( no over 45 women can be hired as maids, which however makes the lady having violated the rules too ). IIRC, the lady stated to local media here that it was the home owner's daughter who was most brutal and hit most nails.
In my opinion, however this would become another forgotten case. Saudi Arabia is a powerful and rich power compared to my beautiful but poor island.

[Edited 2010-08-26 04:41:10]


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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5718 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4047 times:

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 6):
s per reports, the home owner had hired her in violation of Sri Lankan embassy regulations

Just out of curiosity, what jurisdiction or authority does Sri Lankan embassy have over Saudi nationals in Saudi Arabia??? My guess is that the embassy can make nonbinding recommendations with zero powers to enforce them but that's about it.


User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

L410, I believe the Ministry of Foreign Employment. Nevertheless, there's a regulation that women over 45 cannot be hired as maids, which I'm sure of.

Here's another report -
They had first hit nails in her leg when a glass had been broken by her. Later the wife had hit a nail in her forehead when she complained

http://lbo.lk/fullstory.php?nid=578128998



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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1884 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4023 times:
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Quoting keesje (Reply 5):
The one who did it would be behind bars in hours

Only to be released after a few months in luxury jail.

Looking at the shocking Xray photo, it is indeed strange that metal detectors didn't pick her up. However maybe she took a different form of transportation back?

Martijn



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User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3999 times:

@CrimsonNL She flew RUH-CMB , either with SV or UL. This was mentioned on media here and also AFP. Plus, it is extremely unlikely for any worker to sail from RUH to CMB.
Here are the photos of the X rays

In other news, the lady has been done a surgery today.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

This is shocking. The Maid should be compensated by the people that did this. The couple should face jail, will be interesting to see how the Saudi authorities handle this.

User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 3914 times:

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 6):
the home owner's daughter who was most brutal and hit most nails.


Will for sure grow up to be a loving mother, and when her kids do something that doesn't please her.......go figure.
It's sick! Not only is it sick that the adults did this to her, but they let the children take part in the torture as well. Just sick!
No matter where they live or what they believe in, there is no defense against this kind of behaviour.



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17544 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3911 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):
The Maid should be compensated by the people that did this. The couple should face jail, will be interesting to see how the Saudi authorities handle this.

That will never happen. Honestly I think it's part of the Saudi psyche in certain parts of society to treat foreign maids like they're disposable *at best*. Even in the US I hear stories fairly often about Saudi families tossing their maids down stairs or worse.

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 6):
the lady stated to local media here that it was the home owner's daughter who was most brutal and hit most nails.

Generally I'm anti eye-for-an-eye, but this is a perfect case to try it out.



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

I wonder why anyone is surprised by the brutality and lack of value for human life that comes from these regions. Culturally it seems that they're unwilling to come unstuck from medieval times. It's one of the reasons many people confuse Islam with the cultural mores of the regions where it's strongest. Frankly I think that the people involved would read the worst into Christianity...hell, some of them would figure out an excuse to do evil in Buddha's name.

The lack of value associated with a human life (or worse, the belief that others are less than human based on whatever standards are instilled from the formative years) leads people to believe they are justified in treating other humans as chattel and worse. I'd not treat a working animal this way, but then I was raised to understand not simply how inhumane and wrong it is, but how counterproductive it is. Until it's uneconomic for such behaviour to be tolerated it won't end. Every civil rights movement that has ever worked has involved not just sympathy from those who are revulsed and offended by the injustice, but economic discomfort directly associated to the behaviour being targeted.

How do we help the people being trampled realize it's not their lot in life to be trampled on this way. Women, children and the weak or foreign in these cultures are the most abused people, and their economic masters use religion and laws to keep them weak, much the same as in cultures that practiced/practice (they're still out there) slavery. Which by the way is also practiced to varying degrees in nations of that region, not just Saudi.

[Edited 2010-08-26 07:02:50]


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User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6758 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
psyche in certain parts of society

History has repeatedly shown that if others are deemed beneath you or less than human or less than "pure" then awful things can happen to those others. The power of persuasion/religion/indoctrination/culture... take your pick



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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3873 times:

Quoting keesje (Reply 2):
I'm hardly intersted how she got through security, the more what action is taken against a government that closes it eyes for events like these and whats behind it.

It is very depressing flying back from Dharhan to Singapore talking to some of the flocks of Indonesian housemaids on the flights. One pair just in front of me at one security stage were in tears and I asked what the problem was, and they had been dropped off at the airport after 3 years work with $100, and according to them, that was all they ever got. Except many of their friends obviously got a bit more as could easily be seen when they removed their outer "tents".

The Indonesian government were at one stage going to stop the trade, but it still seems to continue. And on the other side, in Indonesian villages stories are still told about being a maid is a path to riches in spite of the experiences to the contrary. Very sad.

What are the good Saudis (and I met many of them) doing about it?

So this sad episode does not entirely surprise.


User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3850 times:

I have a friend working in Saudi as a Paramedic, with whatever EMS they have there, and he asked if whenever I got through with my current tour in the sandbox, I wanted to come work at some hospital there? All I could do was laugh!! I have no desire to ever step foot in Saudi, as a civilian! You can have that place, I wish the oil would dry up, so no one would ever care about it, and their oppressive ways.

User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3659 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3839 times:

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 10):
Here are the photos of the X rays

Looks like used nails.


User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

And in fact, one of the reasons most South Indians, and Sri Lankans prefer UL for travel to Mid East is that they are treated as "humans". Not sure of EK, EY and QR, but a complaint I've often heard is that most Mid East airlines treat South Asians travelling in Y as slaves. I guess a finger naturally points at SV, though I've never travelled with them.


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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 19):
most Mid East airlines treat South Asians travelling in Y as slaves.

You can add SQ if you like. They treated me just fine, but the Indonesians in the row behind had no English (and rather less Chinese!!) and you would have thought that an SQ 747 would have had a few FAs who spoke Bahasa Malayu which would have been fine for the Indonesians. As it was I had to explain to them what the FAs were trying to tell them. And very stroppy the FAs were too.


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14030 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3755 times:

Quoting Baroque (Reply 16):
It is very depressing flying back from Dharhan to Singapore talking to some of the flocks of Indonesian housemaids on the flights. One pair just in front of me at one security stage were in tears and I asked what the problem was, and they had been dropped off at the airport after 3 years work with $100, and according to them, that was all they ever got. Except many of their friends obviously got a bit more as could easily be seen when they removed their outer "tents".

The Indonesian government were at one stage going to stop the trade, but it still seems to continue. And on the other side, in Indonesian villages stories are still told about being a maid is a path to riches in spite of the experiences to the contrary. Very sad.

I´m familiar with this issue from the Filipino side. The problem is that not so many decades ago, slavery was legal in Saudi Arabia and many Gulf states (in fact there existed a huge slave trade from Africa to Arabic countries in parallel to the much better known slave trade of African slaves to the Americas).
Even though slavery has been banned since many years, the mentality obviously still sticks with many Saudis.

Jan


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4897 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

This is horrifying but not at all surprising. You can use your oil wealth to buy shiny new planes, Ferraris, estates in Marbella/the Cote d'Azur but you can't buy a sliver of decency. I've seen it in every single one of the GCC countries I've been to. If you're foreign you are worth less than a local and treated as such. The GCC powers that be know this and exploit guest laborers. They know that their respective countries of citizenship are too gutless/powerless to do a damn thing about it. For those of you not familiar with the very real pecking order in Saudi it is as follows:

Saudi ruling elite
Wealthy Saudi elite
Saudi Citizens
Other GCC Arabs
Other Arabs
White westerners
Non-white westerners
Filipinos / South Asians
Africans

I am told by a Qatari friend of mine, Nawaf, that in some parts of the gulf the word Filipino is synonymous with maid.

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 7):
Just out of curiosity, what jurisdiction or authority does Sri Lankan embassy have over Saudi nationals in Saudi Arabia

Zero.

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 19):
in fact, one of the reasons most South Indians, and Sri Lankans prefer UL for travel to Mid East is that they are treated as "humans". Not sure of EK, EY and QR, but a complaint I've often heard is that most Mid East airlines treat South Asians travelling in Y as slaves.

I've seen this firsthand on EK and QR flights. On one QR flight the sheer amount of disdain I saw the FAs show towards Nepali laborers was like nothing I had ever seen in my life. Sure they're a handful but the treatment I saw was simply uncalled for. The real irony is that the upper echelon of the GCC elite see FAs as in the same light, as guest laborers.

YOWza



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User currently offlinegolfradio From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 775 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

Absolutely sickening. I wonder how long before they would have actually killed her. I am happy that this Sri Lankan lady was able to get away from Saudi Arabia. What would have happened if the maid had tried to defend herself and in the process nailed a couple in her torturer's hands. Would she have lost her hands?

The things the world ignores, just for oil.

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 17):
I have no desire to ever step foot in Saudi, as a civilian! You can have that place, I wish the oil would dry up, so no one would ever care about it, and their oppressive ways.

  

Any other country with this record of human rights abuse would have been sanctioned a long time ago.


User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6818 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

Quoting golfradio (Reply 23):
Any other country with this record of human rights abuse would have been sanctioned a long time ago.

The irony is that Saudi Arabia is a member of the UN Human Rights Council.

One more shining example of the ridiculous existence of the UN, but Saudi Arabia has no recognition of fundamental human rights.


25 Springbok747 : Absolutely sickening. This is the reason why I have no desire to visit those places or even fly their airlines. Experienced this when I flew Gulf Air
26 Post contains images BMI727 : None.
27 ltbewr : First of all, torturous acts on foreign workers or even other citizens and children happens all over the world, including in Europe and the USA. That
28 MaverickM11 : Saudi Arabia, and the wider Arab world, has a disproportionate number of these events; it's really quite extraordinary. It's rare to hear of countrie
29 golfradio : If anybody in the civilized world had tried to pull sh*t like this they would have had their sorry a$$es behind bars. It's only in the Gulf states th
30 Post contains images Maverick623 : According to them, it is the year 1453. Take that as you will. Irony would imply that the UN meant anything. Yes, I know. There are evil people every
31 iairallie : Yeah isn't that how they like to handle justice over there. They should show they aren't hypocrites and treat this the same way they usually do.
32 Maverick623 : They're not hypocrites. Women have never had any rights, and foreign women have even less.
33 wn700driver : Unsurprised. This is a place ruled occupied by a gangsteresque family that has no regard for human rights or acknowledgement that the rest of the wor
34 Superfly : I knew there were something about Emirates I just didn't trust. The whole image they're projecting just seems so fake.
35 babybus : The trouble is these are only the cases we hear of. There are surely many many more such cases that never get discovered. There are all sorts of weir
36 Post contains links KFlyer : Surgery removes 18 nails. Six could not be removed as doing so would have threatened her life - http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/n...66,maid-torture
37 SOBHI51 : I only defend what i am convinced is right, do not extend a blanket on all actions as some of them i do not agree with. This is a disgusting, sick, s
38 Airxliban : Tragic and disgusting, but hardly surprising. It's unthinkable that a human being would wish to do something like this to another human being. I have
39 slider : And do you think the "eye for an eye" treatment will apply here? I can answer that one--no. Not only because she's not a citizen, but because any inv
40 JAGflyer : Why would Filipino's continue going to places in the Gulf knowing full well how their type are treated there? I'm sorry to generalize but European/Ame
41 Post contains links oly720man : Or, if you're really lucky http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...erits-4-million-from-employer.html A devoted Filipina maid inherited $4 million (£
42 Post contains links slider : DXB is similar in the sense of having a sub-class of virtual slaves. Behind the glitter, there is a raw underbelly. http://www.independent.co.uk/opini
43 MaverickM11 : It seems to be anywhere in the Muslim world from Morrocco to Malaysia, from Nigeria to Jordan. If you're a poor, perhaps illiterate, Filipino girl, h
44 Post contains images Superfly : I really hope this gets more exposure and bring to light what a fascad that place really is. Uh-oh, be careful. You just may have offended someone. H
45 slider : Agree with both gents. And unlike the Filipina lady in RUH, she was actually able to get out! In the DXB article, many of those laborers, from nannie
46 Post contains images Superfly : Is there a world-wide campaign to call attention to this? I'm not much a Sally Struthers, 'Save-the-world' type of person but this is something I'd g
47 Post contains links slider : Are you kidding? That would be politically incorrect. Plus it automatically gets you branded a (fill in the blank here): Islamophobe, racist, bigot,
48 777way : Some maids are also not so angelic, they can be quite bitchy and conniving.
49 Post contains links and images Superfly : To be fair, this had been going on long before Obama was elected President.
50 MaverickM11 : Ostensibly Catholicism is not a religion of pedophilia either, but if you were an alien beamed down to earth, you'd be forgiven for thinking Catholic
51 Superfly : Umm no. There is nothing in the Bible that justifies the actions of a few Priest. I was raised in a strict Catholic family, served as an Altar Boy, w
52 slider : Absolutely true.... it goes back really to Eisenhower in earnest. Every administration has been held by the balls by the Saudis since then pretty muc
53 L410Turbolet : Call me thick, but I still do not understands who prevents this employment od anyone over 45 and why and whether it's Sri Lanka to Saudis? Either way
54 srbmod : Since once again, some of you decide to hijack a thread into a discussion about Islam that is not constructive and perpetuates misinformation and ster
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