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Obama Admin Halts Prosecution Of USS Cole Bomber  
User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6774 posts, RR: 35
Posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines&sid=ST2010082700364

Unbefreakinglievable.

Actually, knowing how quickly this president and administration are to appease Islamists and terrorists, it's not that surprising.

So Pelosi wants to investigate those who dare to use free speech against the Ground Zero mosque, but known terrorists aren't going to be tried for bombing a United States Naval ship?

WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER.

Worst. President. Ever.

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User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

At least they aren't saying he should be freed. The story does give hope that at some point this DOJ will be able to get its act together and actually have charges to present and be able to go to trial. So far they have a big fat goose egg on all they said was going to happen once they took office. Meanwhile you don't hear any more news stories about prisoners langushing at Gitmo, which was supposed to be closed by now, do you?

This administration is just sad. Not illegal, not anything, save sad.


User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5231 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1791 times:

Quoting slider (Thread starter):

You didn't actually read the article and all of the issues it outlines that seem to have impacted the administration's decision to halt prosecution (for now) against Nashiri did you? You simply saw the headline and ran with it. At least that much is clear from your post. By the way, if the past administration was so much better than the current administration, why didn't they try between the time of his capture in 2002 and when Bush left office? Or at the very least since he was sent to Guantanamo in 2006?



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8021 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 2):
By the way, if the past administration was so much better than the current administration, why didn't they try between the time of his capture in 2002 and when Bush left office? Or at the very least since he was sent to Guantanamo in 2006?

Come on you know better than to let facts get in the way of good partisan rancor. The DOJ has about as much on Nashiri now as they did in 2005 - which is to say, obviously not enough to put the guy away on. I'm not passing judgment one way or the other.

If he is indeed guilty then both the military and DOJ have royally screwed the pooch on this one. The guy has been in custody since 2002 - WTF takes so long??

[Edited 2010-08-27 11:33:28]


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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11154 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 3):
The guy has been in custody since 2002 - WTF takes so long??

Alberto Gonzales.



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User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1943 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

Wait. I thought right wingers didn't even want these guys to get trials. Right?

But now your whining because this guy isn't?

Quoting slider (Thread starter):
WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER.

Whoa! Obama lost your vote! I'm sure he had it right up until today, eh?


User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6774 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 2):
You didn't actually read the article and all of the issues it outlines that seem to have impacted the administration's decision to halt prosecution (for now) against Nashiri did you? You simply saw the headline and ran with it. At least that much is clear from your post. By the way, if the past administration was so much better than the current administration, why didn't they try between the time of his capture in 2002 and when Bush left office? Or at the very least since he was sent to Guantanamo in 2006?

Your point is?

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 5):
Wait. I thought right wingers didn't even want these guys to get trials. Right?

I'm glad you brought that up. I still remain in belief that they ought to have been tried as enemy combatants, under the precedent in this country that already exists, just as the Club Gitmo detainees. But in the context of the rules that THIS ADMINISTRATION arbitrarily created and applied under Holder, this is the contruct in which they were to proceed.

That said, if they wanted it set up this way, then go with it. But now they're not. So what's their hesitation? They’ve got evidence, they’ve had plenty of time to craft their case. Or is it that because of the VERY construct they wanted—civilian trials, and the resultant rules of evidence and discovery—that would jeopardize our intelligence personnel and government resources, that they CAN’T proceed? All the germane reasons why the Manhattan terror trials shouldn’t occur also apply here.

So the administration is kicking the can down the street longer, hoping to never have to deal with it, all because they ineptly addressed it in the first place.

Meanwhile, yes, the terrorists do win. There’s no justice. Only appeasement and more of our Muslim-outreach project.


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 6):
Muslim-outreach project.

Whats wrong with Muslims?  .


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7172 posts, RR: 86
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1558 times:
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Disgusting read.

Quoting slider (Thread starter):

Worst. President. Ever.

One term president.

Quoting D L X (Reply 4):

Alberto Gonzales.

Take this guy out of the Bush Administration and you get instant credibility.


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1549 times:

another thread to bash Obama...how lovely. Dont you guys get tired of this, day in and day out?

User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2412 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1532 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 9):
another thread to bash Obama...how lovely. Dont you guys get tired of this, day in and day out?

Bitching and moaning is what they do best. (on both sides of the fence)

Them actually doing something about it?..... (crickets chirping)



Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talkin'!
User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 10):

Bitching and moaning is what they do best. (on both sides of the fence)

i agree that the left does it too. But the right has positvely gone nuts. I find it quite funny that people are using this website as a sounding board. I doubt the DNC or the RNC are actively checking the "Non AV" section of Airliners.net for political activists...but hey, i could be wrong, lol.

The right wing guys on here and everywhere else are all the same...: Lower taxes (yeah that will REALLY solve the problem...) the federal government is evil, health care (for people less fortunate than them or i dont want to contribute to other people's welfare) is evil, the gays dont deserve rights, minorities dont deserve rights, Obama is the worst president ever (though they seem to forget that Reganomics was what led us to this current situation), Obama is a secretMUSLIMTERRORISTANTICHRIST, etc, etc. If i want to listen to all of this, i can just turn on Fox news. The teleprompter thing comes up every so often...but if you notice, all of Obama's town hall and community events dont have teleprompters. When was the last time he used one anyways? And why does the Right care about that so much anyways?


User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13004 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

President Obama is caught in a no-win situation as to proscutiting certain terror suspets. I wouldn't doubt that this alleged terrorist was subject to some form or torture or extra-judical questioning, perhaps in a 3rd country for the US, subject to those special CIA flights or other wise been subject to treatment in violation of various human rights treaties the USA is part of thus making the best alleged evidence unusable in any court. If the best evidence was obtained in such illegal and immoral ways, then any defense can rip any attempt to try this person near impossible to reach a conviction, especially upon any appeal. Meanwhile, this and many other terror suspects have been held for trial for many years also still be held as we cannot try them but we fear even more of letting them free. What a botch by several Presidents.

User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 12):
Meanwhile, this and many other terror suspects have been held for trial for many years also still be held as we cannot try them but we fear even more of letting them free. What a botch by several Presidents.

Well, holding them without trial is a crime. So Obama should make his move, whatever it is.


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