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IPad Users. What Would You Change If You Could  
User currently offlinegreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Posted (4 years 1 month 17 hours ago) and read 2819 times:

For me I really like the convience of the touch screen(yes I took a big drink from the apple cool-aid)
What i dislike is.

The touch screen for two actions is to sensitive. Sometimes just brushing against a link will cause it to load in a new window.


With forums I also wish it would not automatically re load a page when I flip between a couple windows quickly

I also wish I could turn the cut,past, and copy feature on and off. Again with the touch screen it high lists all the time when inam scrolling.

And finally I wish it had up and down arrows. When I am typing a long messiage in a box like this it does not scroll up or down very fast if I want to make changes.

I also wish it had a longer power cord like the MacBook has. To use it plugged in I have to almost sit against the wall unless I use an extension cord.


The. First two could be fixed by giving those two a time delay so that a mere brush does not activate them.


So iPad users what would you change. Note do not all post flash. We all bought these knowing that there was no flash support and made the choice to buy it.

Gs

[Edited 2010-08-31 10:29:24]


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User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27027 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):
The touch screen for two actions is to sensitive. Sometimes just brushing against a link will cause it to load in a new window.

I cant say I noticed that happening to me.

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):
So iPad users what would you change. Note do not all post flash. We all bought these knowing that there was no flash support and made the choice to buy it.

I dont miss flash on it anyway.

I use it mostly at airports on trains , sometimes at breaks at work, it still does everything I wanted it to.


User currently offlineklaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21478 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 2783 times:

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):
The touch screen for two actions is to sensitive. Sometimes just brushing against a link will cause it to load in a new window.

It's a tradeoff, but the high sensitivity is ultimately necessary for fluid operation.

There's a trick, however: If you should realize that you've just touched a link which you didn't want (either by accidentally touching the page or by hitting the wrong link next to the right one) and your finger is still on the link, the link will be highlighted. So you see which one would be opened if you released your touch.

And that's the point: You can abort the selection by simply dragging (scrolling) the page a little bit. In that case the link selection is discarded and only the scrolling is done because the system thinks the initial touch had just been intended for scrolling instead.

Every once in a while I do indeed have to go back after accidentally hitting a link, but it's relatively rare, all in all.

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):
With forums I also wish it would not automatically re load a page when I flip between a couple windows quickly

The iPad could indeed use more RAM – the iPhone 4 has been upgraded to 512MB RAM (apparently for the new iMovie App), but the iPad with its even larger screen resolution has to do with 256MB, which can get tight when you've got multiple pages open at the same time. And if a page had to be thrown out due to memory shortage, it will need to be reloaded when you go back to its tab.

So I agree: More RAM would be highly welcome.

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):
I also wish I could turn the cut,past, and copy feature on and off. Again with the touch screen it high lists all the time when inam scrolling.

It can be challenging to provide all the different gestures for the avaialble functionalities without getting a bit close at times; But with a bit of practice this kind of thing happens rather rarely (and even then, a simple tap somewhere will cancel the selection again).

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):
I also wish it had a longer power cord like the MacBook has. To use it plugged in I have to almost sit against the wall unless I use an extension cord.

I rarely use it plugged in; But if I did, I might get a regular USB extension cord.

Just don't use the cheapest, flimsiest ones: When the iPad is connected to its own charger, it can draw up to 2 Amps through the cable for fast recharging.

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):
So iPad users what would you change.

My whish list:

- More RAM would be relatively important. And iOS 4 with general multitasking will probably make that even more apparent. For the next version (probably to be presented next spring) this is pretty much a given.

- The weight could still be lighter than it is now. Given the excellent battery endurance, the extreme rigidity of the case and the current state of technology it is surprisingly compact and light even so, but at least in some positions an even lighter device would still be easier to hold – particularly since the iPad actually works for many hours on a single charge.

- A "Retina"-like display with doubled resolution would be nice, but 2048*1536 is probably a bit too much to ask at this point. And the current resolution is still surprisingly crisp and pleasant even so.

The list of features where I don't see much need or even room for improvement at this point is quite a bit longer than that - and these are the reasons why even and especially as a hard- and software developer myself I'm highly appreciative of my iPad overall.

Even as a V1.0 product it is impressively pleasant and useful; And in general it "feels right" and really like a finished product, not at all like a prototype or a first attempt.

And believe me: I know what that feels and looks like!   


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27027 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 2731 times:

Quoting klaus (Reply 2):
When the iPad is connected to its own charger, it can draw up to 2 Amps through the cable for fast recharging.

Thats answers a question I had , I wondered why it charged so quickly  


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):

I agree that the cable is to short. I took the duck head with the extension cable off one of my many mac chargers, and put it on my iPad one. Worked great....



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User currently offlineklaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21478 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

Quoting oa260 (Reply 3):
Thats answers a question I had , I wondered why it charged so quickly

It is careful to check how much current is available, though. It won't just draw as much as it wants.

The hierarchy for the iPad is:

- 100mA "Low Power" (standard USB, all ports): no charging

- 500mA "High Power" (standard USB, if the port supports and on request explicitly allows it): very slow charging and only while the iPad is locked (display off)

- 1A "Extra Current" (only some newer Macs or iPhone charger): slow charging

- 2A "High Current" (only iPad charger): quick charging

Weaker ports or even motherboards could be damaged if the device didn't check for the available current (the infamous passive Y-cables are prime examples of how not to do this!).

The iPad has pretty large batteries which couldn't get charged from a normal USB port in a reasonable time (see above), so they basically had the choice of using a completely separate charging plug or extending the standard – neither alternative is really ideal, but expanding the USB standard apparently seemed like the better choice.

With standard ports the iPad is still a "good citizen" and won't damage anything, but from non-standard Apple gear it can draw a lot more power if it's available. It remains to be seen whether these extensions of the standard may be adopted by other manufacturers, eventually.

The effects of various power sources on charging time can be a bit confusing, though.


User currently offlineeaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1015 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

I love my iPad. But it there are a couple things that annoy me. The biggest thing is that Apple could perfectly well have included a front facing camera in the iPad but decided not to do it. I often get the feeling that Apple holds thing back for no good reason, essentially doesn´t give you a product that is as good as it could be. The iPad is the most awesome Skype platform I can think of. I have a feeling that Apple decided against the camera so that when they release the next iPad a camera will be included and a lot of people would upgrade because of that.

Lacking flash annoys me but ultimately I don´t care that much about that. A lot of websites have made their websites iPad compatible using HTML5 or something.

A huge annoyance with the iPad is the fact that it can´t play DIVX or XVID videos meaning that if you have videos in those formats you have to convert them to an Apple approved format. This is probably done so that pirated videos can't be played and therefore don't compete with the iTunes store. I find this just plain greedy. Apple should not be in the business of telling me what I can and can't play on my iPad. I mean could you imagine the uproar if Microsoft decided that certain programs and video formats were not to be played on Windows because they wanted you to buy those programs and videos from them. IT'S JUST PLAIN GREED ON APPLES BEHALF. Although obviously people shouldn't download pirated tv shows it is nonetheless the case that people do and those people want to put that on their iPad, which they payed large sums of money for.


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27027 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Quoting klaus (Reply 5):
It is careful to check how much current is available, though. It won't just draw as much as it wants.

The hierarchy for the iPad is:
Quoting eaa3 (Reply 6):
The biggest thing is that Apple could perfectly well have included a front facing camera in the iPad but decided not to do it.

That would be a good feature .

I see the new iPod has Facetime and it looks quite good for those that dont want the iPhone 4 but the new Apple TV is under whelming IMHO. Im glad I got the old one where I store everything in the memory as the new Apple TV only streams stuff AFAIK. I guess the $99 price tag reflects this as my Apple TV box was $300.


User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 475 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

The iPad is a lovely little device, but if folks are looking to replace their Macbook, they will be disappointed.

Remember the old Army boot camp chant - "This is my rifle (Macbook), This is my gun (iPad). This is for fighting (work) and this is for fun (web surfing)."

When the rest of the video world realizes that HTML5 is superior to Flash, I will be very happy.

I hear that a software upgrade is coming to allow a wireless printer interface - that would be nice.


User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21478 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 6):
A huge annoyance with the iPad is the fact that it can´t play DIVX or XVID videos meaning that if you have videos in those formats you have to convert them to an Apple approved format. This is probably done so that pirated videos can't be played and therefore don't compete with the iTunes store. I find this just plain greedy. Apple should not be in the business of telling me what I can and can't play on my iPad. I mean could you imagine the uproar if Microsoft decided that certain programs and video formats were not to be played on Windows because they wanted you to buy those programs and videos from them. IT'S JUST PLAIN GREED ON APPLES BEHALF.

No, that is almost certainly not the reason.

Apple runs its media and app stores at break-even, not for a profit. They're making almost all their profit with the hardware itself. The stores are just adding incentive.

At issue here is almost certainly a mixture of avoidable codec licensing difficulties and above all code complexity and hardware support.

On a desktop machine you normally wouldn't care how much CPU power a given codec consumes as long as it gets the job done. On a mobile device with a very limited power budget, however, you could easily see the run time of the battery slashed in half or less by viewing video which isn't decoded by the hardware GPU (which is highly optimized for h.264 playback) but at much greater cost by the CPU itself.

And of course most people wouldn't make the connection to the video format but they would simply say that Apple's batteries sucked.

In addition to that, Apple would have to maintain the additional codecs in iOS in the long run, which would of course consume engineering resources they could use for better things.

Effectively, there are two options as things stand:

- For playing back movies via WiFi there is Air Video which lets your Mac or PC use all its codec plugins (such as Perian) to transparently convert and stream the video to your iOS device in h.264.

- For direct playback on the road you will indeed have to convert the movies to h.264. But at the same time this will often reduce the data size substantially at the same time.

In both cases you'll benefit from the hardware-optimized h.264 playback built into the device and into iOS, but it does indeed take a bit of extra effort (although I find Air Video actually more convenient than having to copy everything to the iPad as long as I'm watching in WiFi range).

As a developer myself I still feel the limitation, but I would probably have made the same decision in their place.

Quoting oa260 (Reply 7):
I see the new iPod has Facetime and it looks quite good for those that dont want the iPhone 4 but the new Apple TV is under whelming IMHO. Im glad I got the old one where I store everything in the memory as the new Apple TV only streams stuff AFAIK. I guess the $99 price tag reflects this as my Apple TV box was $300.

Definitely. The old one was basically a somewhat simplified Mac mini (Intel CPU, harddisk etc.). The new one is apparently more or less an iPod Touch with built-in power supply, HDMI and S/PDIF and without a display (A4, Flash etc.).

Particularly given the power consumption and heat production of the old one this is a step forwards in one direction, but it does indeed cut off some of the older capabilities. We'll have to see how this will progress further.

Actually, the new Apple TV is a bit of a cross between the old Apple TV and the Airport Express WiFi router / streaming adapter.

I'd still only consider it if it did show at least menus and local content in full HD, not just 720p. But in that case they'd have to switch resolutions in mid flight which might not always be a good idea. Such issues can be trickier on the technical level than most users care to consider (and they shouldn't be forced to).

Quoting FLALEFTY (Reply 8):
The iPad is a lovely little device, but if folks are looking to replace their Macbook, they will be disappointed.

Well, for me the iPad has basically "replaced" my MacBook Pro with everything I once had thought I might use it for but never did because a notebook is still somewhat clumsy and inconvenient around the house in most cases...


By the way: Have you checked out the game demo Epic Citadel? For a mobile device it is really stunning!

[Edited 2010-09-03 14:23:47]

User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27027 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2472 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
Particularly given the power consumption and heat production of the old one this is a step forwards in one direction, but it does indeed cut off some of the older capabilities. We'll have to see how this will progress further.

Yeah I remember it at first I was worried as it was red hot. The new one does look sleak but its more for the masses and not those that want to have the ability to store. I would have loved to see storage on it or maybe one with storage for another $100. I would have upgraded then but certainly no point now. Why when I search on Apple TV in Youtube dont all videos show up like on a PC? Some videos that I can easily find and play on my PC wont even show on Apple TV Youtube menu. Do they censor or omit content?

The iPad is perfect for my travels and does everything I want.

Im going to get the iMac for Christmas but need to explore a few more things to make sure that everything I do now on my current PC will be able to do on iMac.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2463 times:

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):
IPad Users. What Would You Change If You Could

All of it.

It needs a better OS. Right now its really just an overiszed iPod touch. It would have been a much better device had it run a full version of OSX and allowed users to install regular apps and not be chained to having to download them from the App Store.

It needs flash. Spare me the lecures and the "Flash is grabage" nonsense. Let the consumer decide that.

It needs USB. Shouldn't have to buy the dock connector and any related accessories at Apple's bloated prices to add basic perhipreal functions to the iPad.

Quoting greasespot (Thread starter):
(yes I took a big drink from the apple cool-aid)

Clearly.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
Apple runs its media and app stores at break-even, not for a profit.

Care to provide proof of that? I highly doubt Apple is at break even on itunes.



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User currently offlineeaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1015 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
Apple runs its media and app stores at break-even, not for a profit. They're making almost all their profit with the hardware itself. The stores are just adding incentive.

Apple takes either 60% or 40% (I forget which one) and have esentailly no variable cost. Trust me. They make a profit.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
At issue here is almost certainly a mixture of avoidable codec licensing difficulties and above all code complexity and hardware support.

I don't really buy that either. They could also just approve 3rd party apps that are good DIVX players such as VLC. I read somewhere that VLC has not developed a player because Apple would just reject it. End result is that Apple wants to control every aspect of my device to make sure that they maximize their profits.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
On a desktop machine you normally wouldn't care how much CPU power a given codec consumes as long as it gets the job done. On a mobile device with a very limited power budget, however, you could easily see the run time of the battery slashed in half or less by viewing video which isn't decoded by the hardware GPU (which is highly optimized for h.264 playback) but at much greater cost by the CPU itself.

Power consumption is a choice that should be left to the consumer. Don't make excuses for Apple.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
In both cases you'll benefit from the hardware-optimized h.264 playback built into the device and into iOS, but it does indeed take a bit of extra effort (although I find Air Video actually more convenient than having to copy everything to the iPad as long as I'm watching in WiFi range).

Yes but Apple shouldn't dictate that I can't play something or do something that isn't optimized for my device. Plus, although DIVX requires some CPU power, I doubt that the iPad is not capable of playing that format perfectly well.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
No, that is almost certainly not the reason.

I stand by my statement. Apple is in a sort of monopolistic position, with the iPad and iPod touch, where they don't need to inovate all that much and can hold back things because that would maximize their profit. There is nothing wrong with that as companies have the sole purpose of maximizing profit (generally anyway), but the end result is that they hold back their technology more than I would like. For example Apple would not allow a App in the App store that competes with iTunes.


User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 475 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

Cadet57 - I agree, Flash is not garbage. It have served us well. But Flash has attracted the "dark side" users, who use it's goodness to do bad, such as those annoying auto-load video ads on ESPN, et. al.

Oa260, I have an IMac, too (along with a work Macbook and this IPad) and it rocks! I run my home music studio with it. The big screen is great for my Logic mixing software and the audio unsurpassed.


User currently offlinegreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

Yes but all of those things you knew about before you bought it. We

Quoting FLALEFTY (Reply 8):
The iPad is a lovely little device, but if folks are looking to replace their Macbook, they will be disappointed.

I see it as more of an entertainment device as opposed to a computer.

I am not sure why people say they would change everything....I bought it to play media and surf the internet. That is all.

Do I really care what browser it uses..nope. Do i care that it does not have a camera? again nope. hell my notebooks have had cameras and i have never used there so i am pretty sure I would not us it on the Ipad.

Video files..All my video files comes from Itunes so again no problem.

Game playing not an issue as I would rather play games with my Xbox360 or ps3.

It is no secret that the Ipad is locked down by apple. It is not like it was a surprise and a therefore an omg what have I done moment. If you cannot live with that don't buy it. I can so i am totally happy.

Anything else I have a computer to do that with both a Macbook and a Windows notebook.

I will say this between my iphone and Ipad I am completely happy. However once I get my Iphone 4 I will jailbreak my 3g so I can create a wireless hotspot for the Ipad for the few times I wish I could connect to the internet out of the home with the ipad.


gs



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

I'll just drop this here:   



User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 475 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

FLy2HMO: Besides information on that chart being inaccurate (i.e., the iPad has stereo output and a headphone plug), it is also comparing "apples to oranges".

The HP TC 1100 was an attempt to build a full-on business computer with tablet compatibility for field use. The prices started near $5,000 a pop and it was cursed with the always-buggy, and battery-eating, Microsoft XP operating system. As I recall, the HP tablet was used principally by insurance adjusters.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Quoting FLALEFTY (Reply 16):
The prices started near $5,000 a pop and it was cursed with the always-buggy, and battery-eating

Really? $5000? I think you're well off the mark.



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User currently offlinegreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/produ...21756/review/tablet_pc_tc1100.html

Though the $2577 HP Compaq Tablet PC Tc1100 fills the need well, it takes the opposite tack:

plus the screen is not multi touch( but more pen based) and the ipad has headphone jacks.

Sort of comparing apples to oranges.

I feel the Ipad is not meant to be a replacement of a computer. It is more of an entertainment device that can be used as a limited computer.

gs



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