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Visiting Maine / Quebec City In Late October  
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16694 posts, RR: 51
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

I'm looking for a long weekend trip to take the Wife for our Anniversary, she really wants to go to Quebec City but the airfares from EWR/LGA/JFK/PHL are a little high for a long weekend trip (IMO). I was thinking about flying into BTV, BGR or PWM and driving to Quebec City, PWM had some great fares but it's still a 6+ hour drive from PWM to Quebec City. How is Maine in October, weather, foilage and activities wise?.. It would be the weekend of October 30th, I'm figuring cold, wet and no more leaves.

We've never been to Maine.

If anyone has any tips about Maine or Quebec City I would appreciate it.


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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3817 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3774 times:

Maine is an awesome place, although I would imagine by October 30th most of the foliage will be gone (it ends sooner up north). Pack cold weather gear (for that and Quebec City).

Portland, Maine is a great little city, but the problem is it won't provide you a very real view of that Maine is all about, or much of a head start (it is only about 1h30 north of Boston, after all). Driving through Northern Maine on your way to Quebec City, though...

Have you looked into flying into Montreal? I believe it is only about a two hour drive from there.

Good luck with your trip, though. I have been wanting to go for a long time but tickets from NYC are just very expensive, as you say (CO really charges a premium for their Embraers).



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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2564 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3722 times:

Also look into flying into YUL and then taking the train to Québec City.

I've been on that train ride; as long as you have a reservation it is painless.



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User currently offlineKingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1294 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3699 times:

Maine is worth a trip all on its own. If you go, RENT A CAR so you can go visit a lot of different places. I don't know how much that'll be but it'll be worth it. Make sure you check out the Bar Harbor area, very nice. Also, head over through Hancock on US1 and stop at Ruth & Wimpy's (it'll be on the left side if you're on US1 north). They get shipments of fresh lobster and blueberries every hour or two, so make sure you stop by for the best lobster roll you'll ever taste, and the most amazing blueberry pie in the world. If you were going a month later, I'd ask you to bring one back for me (bring a casserole dish or something) as I'll be back in NYC for Thanksgiving. Also, continue on US 1 to Route 189, go just under 10 miles (9.7, 9.8, something like that), turn right onto S. Lubec Road. A little ways down that, slight left turn onto Quoddy Head Rd. Take it to the end, and the lighthouse is the easternmost point of the United States of America. The foghorn is loud! It's doable in any car, we were in a Honda Civic. Other things in Maine to check out are Baxter State Park (with Mt. Katahdin and the lake), it's gorgeous. As for you, the aviation enthusiast, flying into BGR will be a nice experience as it's usually the last stop in the US for military charters before heading over to the sandbox. Last time I was there, a North American B763 was on final right over my head as I was going to Tim Horton's from our Days Inn. My father once saw an An-225 there (according to the US Airways Express pilot... yes it had 6 engines).

Sources: my father commuted to the area every week (from NYC, no doubt) for several months a few years ago. Also, I was there in August of 2009 -- it was the last stop on my cross-country road trip (they were out of the blueberry pies that day  ).

If you do in fact go to Quebec City, it's a glorious place and can be enjoyed any time of the year. I went in April 2004. My dad had been traveling a lot lately, and we ended up staying at the Fairmont - Le Chateau Frontenac. Take a ride on the Funiculaire, check out the museums, and just walk around town and enjoy its beauty, especially at night. There's one small restaurant with a red door or wall (I don't remember exactly... it's near the Chateau, you head out the main entrance to the right, go a block or two, turn left, down the block on the right. You'll find it if you're there for more than a day) that has the BEST mussels I've ever eaten.

As for YQB, your belt will make the metal detector go off. Other than that, it's a nice little airport. Not too much iin terms of amenities, but has good ramp views throughout. I flew from LGA via YUL both ways, A320 DH8A DH8A E175, all on AC.

-J.



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User currently offlinemarsciguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3661 times:

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 3):
Last time I was there, a North American B763 was on final right over my head as I was going to Tim Horton's from our Days Inn. My father once saw an An-225 there (according to the US Airways Express pilot... yes it had 6 engines).

I'll follow the lead of KingFriday and STRONGLY suggest/recommend spending time in any of the communities around Penobscot Bay when there. I graduated from Maine Maritime Academy and have been in a vehicle driving past the airport when the Concorde was either on landing or takeoff, it must have been part of the farewell tour because the timing would just about work. Anyways, You can't beat the coast of Maine! There may be snow flurries if you are far enough inland at the end of October, with the weather often being clear, cool and crisp!



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User currently offlineKingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1294 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

Quoting marsciguy (Reply 4):
Penobscot Bay

That's the area I was thinking of! I was there back in 2005 or 2006 for a few weeks on an outdoors/adventure teen tour. Although that was in June and July of that year... so it was much warmer. It's still definitely worth seeing, as there's so much beautiful scenery (even if it is too cold for you to go kayaking, rafting, etc.).

Also, if you do go to Maine: unless you do have a lot of money and are willing to pay to fly and rent a car (which you TOTALLY should, if you decide to fly), you should just drive. Perhaps rent a car in New York and just use that car so you save your own personal car from the wear and tear (if you're concerned about that) (I did this when I moved up here to school last month, except we did a one-way rental and my mother flew home). But seriously, it's around an 8-hour drive, totally doable in a day and on a single tank of gas. When I went with the tour group, we all had to meet up in Boston, so I took the US Airways Shuttle up there. When my dad was commuting, he flew since he wasn't paying for it. My friend and I completed our road trip by taking I-95 the whole way back to New York from Bangor.

-J.



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User currently offlineBAKJet From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 740 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3625 times:

Quoting marsciguy (Reply 4):
STRONGLY suggest/recommend spending time in any of the communities around Penobscot Bay when there

I defnitely agree. I have been to Maine several times, including this past June, and have loved it every time. Acadia National Park is great, the views from the top are stunning and the hike (I took the Cadillac Mountain North Ridge Trail) is fun and definitely doable. In addition, I would strongly suggest you visit Belfast, Maine. It is a great little town that is one of my favorite places in the world (and I've traveled all over the world, or at least a decent amount)- if I could get a job there, I would move there in a heartbeat. Anyways, no matter where you go, I'm sure you'll have fun. Maine is great (as is Quebec, but I prefer Maine, personally).



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8532 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3618 times:

http://www.fairmont.com/Frontenac/?c...12&OVADGRPID=2411853900&OVNDID=ND1

If you go to Quebec and it is for the first time, I like the Frontenac, a little pricey, but for the view, the closeness to the old city, it is worth it to me. Do not eat there, too much good dining up the hill and down the hill. The charm of Quebec, does not wear off for me, I have been there many times over the years. The first time is always the best. Easy walk to Parliament up the hill.



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User currently offlinewaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3608 times:

Quoting BAKJet (Reply 6):
Acadia National Park is great, the views from the top are stunning and the hike (I took the Cadillac Mountain North Ridge Trail) is fun and definitely doable.

I can vouch for this, when I was a kid my family would rent a house in Southwest Harbor on Mt Desert Island every summer and we'd hit all the hot spots in Acadia park. I don't know how it'd be in October, but you can definitely get some hiking in. Cadillac Mtn. is definitely the best view in the place, the Beehive is a fun trail if you're up for something slightly more strenuous, and Thunder Hole is a must-see, especially if the weather is a bit rough, as there are some truly amazing waves crashing through there that shoot spray 100+ feet into the sky, sort of like Acadia's version of Old Faithful. Just make sure to get a lobster roll at some point during your trip...


User currently offlineKingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1294 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3594 times:

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 7):
If you go to Quebec and it is for the first time, I like the Frontenac, a little pricey, but for the view, the closeness to the old city, it is worth it to me.

It's only the most famous hotel in Quebec City, and is pretty much the hallmark building of Quebec City. The hotel itself is gorgeous; rooms aren't the best, but they have FANTASTIC service (concierge, etc.), and as WarRI1 said many of the rooms offer spectacular views. It's also in a great location. Yes, it is pricey, but if I was going back to Quebec, that's probably where I would end up staying. It's worth it   It's also probably my favorite hotel in the world, it's just gorgeous!
Quoting waterpolodan (Reply 8):
Just make sure to get a lobster roll at some point during your trip...

As I mentioned earlier, Ruth & Wimpy's. Some people say day-old lobster is best. Ruth & Wimpy's uses hour-old lobster. I think that's better 

-J.

[Edited 2010-09-13 23:49:50]


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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9237 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3582 times:

I adore Quebec City. It's a 7 hour drive from here and we typically head up for a Friday morning - Sunday afternoon weekend about every 2-3 months. It's completely do-able.

I've done Maine, it's nice and all but if you really want to score points with the wife, Quebec City is where you want to go, hands down.

Also, the Frontenac in Quebec City is nice, but I much prefer the Manoir Victoria. The Delta is way overpriced, the Courtyard by Marriott right downtown is in a fantastic location, too, but I heavily favor the Manoir.



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User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2115 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3561 times:

You are right that by October 30th, foliage will likely be done, making the driving option (through beautiful country nonetheless), a bit less attractive compare to a good flight...

Which brings me to the point that, with Porter's current fall sale, you and your wife can choose from plenty of seats that weekend (friday to monday) for only $119 each way, EWR-YTZ-YQB, for a grand total of less than $500 CAD for the trip. And you get to try a cool new airline with free onboard drinks, and a stop in the super-cool Toronto City Centre Airport. You can even book one of the longer layovers one way (lots of flight choices ex RWR, and 2 or 3 per day on the YQB segment, and take the little ferry and free shuttle into the heart of Toronto for an hour or two.

I'd say Porter is definitely the way to go for you on this trip!

JL



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User currently offlineKingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1294 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 11):
Which brings me to the point that, with Porter's current fall sale, you and your wife can choose from plenty of seats that weekend (friday to monday) for only $119 each way, EWR-YTZ-YQB, for a grand total of less than $500 CAD for the trip.

Depends on where you live in NYC. I'm from Queens... if I have bags and my parents are at work, it'll easily cost MUCH more than going to LGA or JFK once you factor in the cab ride. And if it's a yellow cab and you hit traffic... I bet many people appreciate the flat fare to JFK from Manhattan   

-J.



Tho' I've belted you an' flayed you, By the livin' Gawd that made you, You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!
User currently offlinePWM2TXLHopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1302 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

Summer generally comes to an end the fourth week of August. Weather wise, anyway! Mainer's might disagree However, a lot of them like cool weather! Anytime it's over 80 degrees, during summer, everybody complains we're having a heat wave and it's unbearably hot! For me, even though I grew up here, things get too chilly once you get into September. Right now, at 10pm, it's about 54 degrees, and the forecast say's we'll get down into the low to mid 40's tonight? By the end of October, daytime temperatures should be between 45-55 degrees. Night time will be between 35-45. Either day or night, it could be a little warmer, or a little cooler? Say, +/- 5 or 10 degrees? No, snow or anything like that, but chilly and crisp. The peak foliage season will most likely have passed, unless the weeks preceding you trip have been abnormally warm? The leaves will have started shedding from the trees in masses by the last weeks of October.


As far as activities, it really depends on what you're into? If you like outdoor activities and nature, Maine has plenty of that during all seasons. However, there's no a whole lot of other stuff to do. Especially once it gets cold out, or you're not close to the "city" like Portland or Bangor! The beaches will be closed, as well as most tourist attractions, and if you're young, like in you're 20's-30's, there's next to no nightlife. Be prepared for stores, restaurants, etc. to close pretty early in the evening (9pm-10) with not much to do thereafter..

Also be prepared to be surrounded, or stuck behind slow old people driving, as Maine has the oldest average population in the USA. Also, be prepared for a lot of roads to be in terrible condition, full of potholes, frost heaves, and crumbling shoulders! Maine is also one of the poorest states in the country, and there's no money to do things like basic road maintenance. So, driving in Maine really does a number on your car if you spend much time here. Not to mention the corrosive effects of the road salt used in the winter! Also be prepared to be surrounded by poverty, or close to it, once you go outside of an 80 mile radius of Portland. And get use to people who don't really dress very nicely, and who's idea of dressing up for a night out is a sweatshirt/flannel -occasionally even hunting fatigues!- steel toe work boots, and a Boston Red Sox cap. If you dress nice, drive a nice car, look or act like you have money or are "from away" as they say up here, be prepared for people to kind of turn up their nose at you!

Most people that rave about how great Maine is, don't ever come here other than the short three months of summer. And they also usually only visit the scenic, wealthier, more populated/urban areas in the southern fourth of the state, and within 50 miles of the rocky coast. They don't usually ever venture further up north, inland, or into the mountains that make the up the majority of Maine. Nor do they come here during the 8 months of crappy weather. I always tell them try coming in January when it's 10 degrees out, gray skies, with a couple feet of snow and a windchill of -20 below, with a car battery that won't start after the cold night, and then see how great the think it is?

Maine to Quebec isn't far if you could go direct, in a straight line, but there's no major interstates that go there, and you have to take back roads through the Western Maine mountains to get there. From North to South, is over 300 miles. So it's a big state. There us to be an Amtrak train that went from NYC to Montreal, stopping at points in Mass, Vermont, and maybe New Hampshire, but I'm not sure if it still crosses the border into Canada?


If you don't mind shelling out a couple hundred dollars, you could charter a Cessna twin, and fly up to Quebec City in about an hour from PWM, BGR, or LEW. Twin Cities Aviation at LEW airport does this kind of thing. And there are probably other charter outfits at PWM or BGR airports? It's a quick flight over the mountains from Maine.

Flying to BGR would be a bit closer drive to Quebec City, but the only LCC airline there is Allegiant from Orlando Sanford, and Clearwater, Fl, so fares to BGR are often kind of steep. PWM has UA, DL, CO, AC, US, Jet Blue, and Air Tran. Until a few years ago, PWM was quite pricey to fly into or out of, but these days it's often as cheap or cheaper than flying into Boston and taking the bus, train, or renting a car to get to Maine.

As a lot of people have recommended, Acadia National Park/Bar Harbor, on Mount Desert Island is one of the more popular touristy spots people come to Maine to visit. But it's a long drive to get to Quebec! Doesn't look so bad on the map, but as I stated earlier, there's no major interstates to Canada. Nor is there any to Mount Desert Island. Or one going East/West across Maine to Canada from Acadia. It'd be a long long drive! Especially if you were only doing a weekend trip.




Hotels are ridiculously overpriced. Even in the off-season. You usually can't even stay at a Holiday in or Ramada for less than $100 per night!

[Edited 2010-09-18 19:39:22]

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Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 3):
As for you, the aviation enthusiast, flying into BGR will be a nice experience as it's usually the last stop in the US for military charters before heading over to the sandbox. Last time I was there, a North American B763 was on final right over my head as I was going to Tim Horton's from our Days Inn. My father once saw an An-225 there (according to the US Airways Express pilot... yes it had 6 engines).


Pretty much anything imaginable comes through Bangor! From Concorde, to Antonov's, to heavy troop charters, John Travolta's 707, military fighters and transports, diverted trans-Atlantic flights dropping off air rage passengers, to C-172's preparing to ferry across the Atlantic Ocean! The past week has been particularly busy with military charters. There's been 5-7 per day the last few week, mostly on World MD-11's and NOA 767's and 757's. Antonov -124 is fairly regular, too, and the -225 stops occasionally as well.


[Edited 2010-09-18 20:11:05]

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