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Titanic, Shuttle And 9-11. Only Time Will Tell.  
User currently offlinemirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Posted (4 years 1 week ago) and read 6621 times:
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The Titanic was one of the biggest tragedies of its time....took less that 100 years for a Titanic inflatable slide to come out (though I dont recall any jokes bout it. http://www.fun-makers.com/titanic.html

Sometime after the Space Shuttle blew up during ascent, I remember hearing jokes as a kid such as "what does this red button do" and "What does NASA stand for? Need Another Seven Astronauts."

So now of the the bigger tragedies of our time was 9-11.

I throw out this question: What is the stature of limitations on jokes with poor taste? Seriously, I feel its only a matter of time before we one day here jokes about it.

I recall seeing a 'celebrity roast' on Comdey Central that taped a few weeks after 9-11. Someone started to tell a joe about the WTC and the comedians all called out, "too soon, too soon!" how fitting that the comedians drew a line somewhere.

Its only a matter of time though....
But have you ever wondered what dictates the statue of limitations on poor taste?


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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5279 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 week ago) and read 6616 times:

Quoting mirrodie (Thread starter):
But have you ever wondered what dictates the statue of limitations on poor taste?

Not a whole lot unfortunately. I think that given the fact that 9/11 was a terrorist act while Challenger, Columbia and the Titanic were not means that people will probably remain a bit more reserved in their willingness to joke about the event many years down the road. Still, I don't put it past some idiot comedians, once they think that enough time has passed, to start telling 9/11 jokes.



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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2803 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6556 times:

Family Guy has touched on a 9/11 joke in one of its episodes but I can't recall any one person or show straight up making jokes regarding 9/11.

User currently offlineAKiss20 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 609 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6521 times:

I would give it another 10 years or so. The producers came out in 1968, about 20 years after WWII.

To be honest I think it is part of how society moves on and heals. No one forgets those who died, but something can't seem so terrible if you can laugh about it. If we stayed solemn and sad about every tragedy in human history the world would be quite the bleak place. I mean, how many of you can laugh about a time that you thought was the worst in your life? I know I can....



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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8544 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6517 times:

People don't joke about Pan Am 103, 22 years later. Mostly because it's not funny.   

Pearl Harbor is another example... not funny, for either side.


User currently offlineKlima From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6504 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 4):

I know there's a Family Guy episode where they reference PA103.

The only "joke" I've heard relating to 9/11 is the knock, knock joke:

Knock, knock.
Who's there?
9/11.
9/11 who?
You said you'd never forget!


There is some rather obnoxious "art" floating around on the internet, though.
http://media.funlol.com/content/img/fresh-prince-of-911.gif


User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2670 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6499 times:

I really believe 9/11 is in a whole separate league from those other tragedies, and not just because it's more recent. Not to diminish the loss of life in the Space Shuttle accidents, but there were only seven(?) lives lost in each of them. Whereas in 9/11 it was 3,000 people who died - and only because they got up that morning and went to their offices.

Astronauts are doing a dangerous thing by going up, I daresay even passengers on steamships are doing something dangerous (if less so). And what befell the Shuttle crews and the folks on the Titanic were all accidents; whereas 9/11 was a wilfull act by human beings.

(It took all I had just now to refer to the 9/11 planners and hijackers as -- ick "human beings"    )

I kinda hate to say this, but maybe that will prevent 9/11 jokes from being made - the fact that it happened to everyday folks. Most of us aren't astronauts, and possibly fewer of us are steamship passengers in 1912, so we know that Space Shuttley and Titanicky things can't happen to us. Whereas a terrorist attack on civilian office buildings...

*shudders*

creepy...



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6492 times:

Each generation seems to have a defining public moment of extreme emotion where the world suddenly becomes a cold, cruel place:

For my father and mother it was Pearl Harbor

For me JFK's Assassination

For my younger brothers - the Challenger

For my sister - 10/23/1983 Beirut (I think only because I was there)

For my daughter and son - 9/11

No one ever finds the event which touches them deeply and personally funny ever. Any jokes are always in bad taste and not appreciated. The wider the impact of an event - the more people who find any humor objectionable.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6471 times:

Quoting Elite (Reply 2):
Family Guy has touched on a 9/11 joke in one of its episodes but I can't recall any one person or show straight up making jokes regarding 9/11.

It's the one where they go back in time to the 80s and some guy says something of the effect to Brian "I'll kick your ass - anytime, anywhere! You name it!" and Brian says "Meet me at about 830 on September 11th, 2001 on top of the World Trade Center" and the guy responds "I'll be there! I won't forget!"

[Edited 2010-09-15 20:04:07]

User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2670 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6465 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 8):
Brian says "Meet me at about 830 on September 11th on top of the World Trade Center" and the guy responds "I'll be there! I won't forget!"

I used to lllllllllove Family Guy when it first started back in 1999. I watched it loyally, even fervently researching its shifting broadcast schedule, so I wouldn't miss it.

Then I noticed it as it got raunchier and raunchier, often just for the unfunny sake of raunch, and also watched it find new ways of being tasteless, with or without raunch. I finally just completely quit watching it.

I see I made the right decision.

Their writers have quite a bit of growing up to do.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13116 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6445 times:

If you look at satire sites and other media like The Onion, they have done humorous/funny plays on 9/11, even a week after that terrible event. One of the most memorable articles on The Onion,was of the terrorist who carried out the 9/11 attacks suffering in hell, using references to Dante's Inferno and others. That played on wishful thinking, the thought of them suffering etertnaly, realizing they were not getting their 72 virgins, their loins in flames, etc. of painful revenge, was something almost everyone wanted to go through. Even last week on the 9th Anniversity, they did a satirical article on the '9/11 truthers', mocking them.

Sometimes tasteless humor, even about 9/11, is a mechanism to deal with such tragedies. Even I had an obscenely tasteless joke that was inappropiate by any standards as to 9/11.


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7175 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6444 times:

Quoting Elite (Reply 2):
Family Guy has touched on a 9/11 joke in one of its episodes but I can't recall any one person or show straight up making jokes regarding 9/11.
Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 8):
"Meet me at about 830 on September 11th, 2001 on top of the World Trade Center" and the guy responds "I'll be there! I won't forget!"

I dont remember that one. But they also had a joke. The Louise (wife) was watching news coverage of the WTC and Peter comes in looks at the TV and says "wow must of been a women pilot"

Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 3):
To be honest I think it is part of how society moves on and heals.

I agree. Even though I am not one to make fun of 9/11 it is only natural. Just like how people who deal with bad situations all the time like doctors, police officer or paramedics. They need to make jokes sometimes about situations that might seem horrible. If they didnt they would go insane.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5279 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6430 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 8):
It's the one where they go back in time to the 80s and some guy says something of the effect to Brian "I'll kick your ass - anytime, anywhere! You name it!" and Brian says "Meet me at about 830 on September 11th, 2001 on top of the World Trade Center" and the guy responds "I'll be there! I won't forget!"

There's also the one where Lois is running for office and is advised to just answer every question with 9/11 and each time she does so, the people in the crowd cheer.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7175 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6402 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 13):
There's also the one where Lois is running for office and is advised to just answer every question with 9/11 and each time she does so, those in the crowd cheer and become increasingly supportive of her.

That was not making fun of 9/11. It was making fun of Ruddy Guliani.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5279 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6392 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 14):
That was not making fun of 9/11. It was making fun of Ruddy Guliani.

Oh OK. I don't really watch the show all that much. I just happened to remember that clip.



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6376 times:

Quoting mirrodie (Thread starter):
Seriously, I feel its only a matter of time before we one day here jokes about it.

Dude, there's TONS of 9/11 jokes out there already, some extremely tasteless (for average Joe standards anyways). I'd post a few but the impending flame war probably wouldn't be in my best interests.


User currently offlinemirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6374 times:
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Quoting Flighty (Reply 4):
People don't joke about Pan Am 103, 22 years later. Mostly because it's not funny.   

Pearl Harbor is another example... not funny, for either side.

Well none of the events are funny. We can all agree on that. Yet after time, let's face it, people "go there."

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 7):
Any jokes are always in bad taste and not appreciated.

true but the jokes remain. I think I heard a few about JFK's assassination as well.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 8):
It's the one where they go back in time to the 80s and some guy says something of the effect to Brian "I'll kick your ass - anytime, anywhere! You name it!" and Brian says "Meet me at about 830 on September 11th, 2001 on top of the World Trade Center" and the guy responds "I'll be there! I won't forget!"

Thats not even funny. Its just dumb. Never saw the show but sheesh.


I always found that concept interesting during that celebrity roast that they shouted "too soon." That there is ultimately some unknown variable timeframe where the telling of such jokes is faux pas.

Come to think of it now, it was Gilbert Gottfried telling that aristocrats joke at Hugh Heffner's roast, just after 9-11. From a clip from "The Aristocrats." Youtube has clips of that joke (too risque for this forum) but not with the 9-11 portion just prior to its telling.



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User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3018 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6368 times:

Oddly, the only 9-11ish humor I found amusing was what you least expected; RIGHT after it happened on the first SNL aired following the event. You know, the one opened by Rudy G and a whole bunch of NY firemen which was huge at the time. They did a skit making fun of the huge displays of patriotism occurring at the time. It had an office meeting with all the staff there in various red, white, and blue clothes. And Wil Farrell shows up in a stars n stripes thong.

Like some examples given, it makes light of events of the time without actually "making fun of" the event itself. If/when that line gets crossed, who knows.



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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2803 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6367 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 11):

I dont remember that one. But they also had a joke. The Louise (wife) was watching news coverage of the WTC and Peter comes in looks at the TV and says "wow must of been a women pilot"

I don't remember either, but there was one when Peter was pretending to be James Woods and he says, "It's a really funny movie, kinda like 2 pies to the face and one in a field in Pennsylvania" or something like that. Seems like FG makes a lot of 9/11 references.


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7175 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 6346 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 17):
And Wil Farrell shows up in a stars n stripes thong.

I remember that and honestly that clip is very funny. It does not make fun of people dying or planes crashing etc..



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User currently offlineediCHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6321 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 4):
People don't joke about Pan Am 103, 22 years later. Mostly because it's not funny.
Quoting Elite (Reply 2):
Family Guy has touched on a 9/11 joke in one of its episodes but I can't recall any one person or show straight up making jokes regarding 9/11.

There are jokes out there, if you are sensitive then avoid the issue. I can only say if I were the victim in some hideous calamity, I would have no objection to someone having a laugh at my expense. Naturally I won't repeat any here.

Still suffering aftershocks down here after the recent earthquake, but the jokes are there. It's called laughter in the face of adversity.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5648 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6309 times:

Quoting mirrodie (Thread starter):
I recall seeing a 'celebrity roast' on Comdey Central that taped a few weeks after 9-11. Someone started to tell a joe about the WTC and the comedians all called out, "too soon, too soon!" how fitting that the comedians drew a line somewhere.

Gilbert Gottfried. I forget who he was roasting (it was very shortly after 9/11)... but as soon as he realized his Empire State Building joke wasn't going to be laughed at, he immediately went into "The Aristocrats".

And people laughed. Probably the first laughter heard in the US after it happened.



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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5733 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6303 times:

It depends on how far removed you are from the tragedy. Obviously it's going to be taboo (in public anyway) on home ground for a certain period of time, but eventually this barrier will disappear. There have been Titianic jokes going arond for as long as I can remember, and I remember hearing the OP's jokes about the Shuttle within days of the event (and that was long before the internet). Another one circulating at the time was "What do they drink at Cape Canaveral (or Kennedy, whatever it was at the time)? The answer was, of course, Coca Cola . . . because they couldn't get Seven Up.

And I remember e-mails circulating within a year of 9-11, one showing a pic of people sitting round a table in one of the towers laughing at a guy facing the windows who just said something about a plane heading towards them.

I'm sure there are jokes in a similar vein circulating about the floods in Pakistan and the earthquake in Haiti. You'll aways get someone sharp somewhere to apply a good one-liner.


User currently offlinenoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6280 times:

There are loads of 9/11 jokes out there at the moment, just check out sickipedia for a boat load. Takes no more than an hour for it to be full of jokes, Pakistan and Haiti were going for weeks. Still lots of 9/11 jokes on there. I won't repeat any of them in full but the one about "Bring your Plane to Work Day" made me chuckle  

If you don't like it then don't read them, I find a lot of the jokes tasteless on there related to certain issues (jokes about children on there particularly hit a nerve, but that's because I'm a father), but I don't complain as we need humour.


User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2670 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6256 times:

There was kind of a neat trend in the immediate days after 9-11, when somebody circulated an obviously doctored photo of a daft-looking tourist (he was often referred to as a "German tourist" though I've no clue what indicated his Germanity) standing on the rooftop observation deck of the World Trade Center, facing the camera, and a jetliner approaching from behind.

This pic was circulated with the usual "THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE" back story, about how someone e-mailed it from their cell phone moments before impact, yadda yadda yadda.

For those of us who found this a little tasteless and opportunistic, new "photos" were created and went viral - they featured the exact same daft-looking tourist standing in a field as the Hindenburg burned behind him; or him in a lifeboat as the Titanic sank behind him...

So it was neat to see a tasteless joke become itself the butt of jokes.



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25 Post contains links and images Maverick623 : The picture of the airplane was pulled from this site View Large View MediumPhoto © Jonathan Derden - Jetwash Images
26 petertenthije : Humour is for many a way to deal with the most dreadful things they have to live with. Those most hardened by rough events in their lives, tend to be
27 connies4ever : Former advertising executive Jerry Della Femina wrote a book called "From Those Wonderful People Who Brought You Pearl Harbour", which was about his
28 us330 : To be fair, the Onion isn't making fun of the event itself. The onion makes jokes about things with a connection to 9/11, but not about the event its
29 sw733 : Funny, I am a master of raunchy comedy and, because of this, I think Family Guy just gets better. I'm terribly incorrect with my comedy, I know, but
30 PHLBOS : IIRC, most of the related-jokes, e-mails, parody songs that were circulating shortly after 9/11/01 were directed more towards Bin Laden, the Taliban,
31 Post contains links and images sw733 : Hahahahahahahaha
32 Post contains links and images NAV20 : Loved it, PHLBOS...... But personally I think that it will be a very long time before 9/11 itself becomes a 'laughing matter' in any sense. The reaso
33 Post contains links ManuCH : My favorite clip so far that derived directly from 9/11, making fun of the Taliban, OBL, etc is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO1cDIllRo0 B
34 Post contains images ALTF4 : Well, you got it close with the different variations, but the correct spelling is "statute". I remember just a few weeks after 9/11 being in a bookst
35 Airstud : Well hey man, there was plenty of heroism by New York rescue workers on 9/11.
36 rfields5421 : My only 'good' 9/11 joke was a photo titled "United Airlines and American Airlines Announce New Flights to Afghanistan" showing two B-52's dropping bo
37 srbmod : Gilbert's never really been know for his tact...... Humor is how some people deal with tragedy. While for some the jokes are in bad taste, for others
38 Post contains images EZEIZA : Honestly, I see nothing wrong with jokes about any of these tragedies. Obviously it's plain wrong to make jokles about an event like this to family me
39 Post contains images NoUFO : Google does: 1967 A little more modern I think there are good and bad jokes. It doesn't need a tragedy to make a thoroughly tasteless joke, though I
40 FlyDeltaJets87 : After the 2000 Election and with all the people in Florida who couldn't figure out how to vote for Al Gore using the butterfly ballot, one of the jok
41 Aesma : I feel that's in fact a joke about 9/11.
42 ediCHC : I guess the Kiwis here are a little bit self effacing. On the afternoon following Chrstchurch's earthquake, many people found it hysterically funny wh
43 Maverick623 : "Too soon" has been a running gag since, well, people have been saying "too soon". If you watch the clip (which I suggest you do, it really is kinda
44 Mudboy : This is true, it is called gallows humor.
45 DocLightning : I dunno, but I remember that when "The Day After Tomorrow" came out in ...what 2003? 2004? One of the reviews read: "We guess this means that it's of
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