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CNN's Rick Sanchez Fired For Jon Stewart Comeback  
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7951 posts, RR: 26
Posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3006 times:

LOL looks like this was the excuse CNN had been looking for...apparently Rick Sanchez, who always seemed to be biting his tongue on his own show, finally let 'er rip, accusing CNN of being run by Jews and the like:


Sanchez said that Stewart is bigoted toward "everybody else that's not like him." He said Stewart "can't relate to what I grew up with," saying his family had been poor and he had seen prejudice directed at his father.

Sanchez dismisses it when Dominick points out that Stewart, who is Jewish, is also a minority.

"I'm telling you that everyone who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart, and to imply that somehow they, the people in this country who are Jewish, are an oppressed minority?" Sanchez said, adding a sarcastic "yeah."

"I can't see someone not getting a job these days because they're Jewish," he said.


This is interesting because actually, Sanchez was pretty obviously biased about things personally important to him but always went after people on both left and right with pretty equal fervor depending on the issue. Oh well, in today's media market - you can't get away with stuff like that.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...entertainment/e153500D31.DTL&tsp=1


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2989 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Oh well, in today's media market - you can't get away with stuff like that.

Seems like it depends on who you are calling a bigtot or racist. If a CNN employee that wasn't hispanic got caught on tape calling someone who opposed Obama a bigot or someone who opposes the mosque near the WTC a bigot would they have acted like this?

FOX may hire him. Wouldn't surprise me.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7951 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
FOX may hire him. Wouldn't surprise me.

Not sure about that with all the hit pieces Sanchez has done on Beck, O'Reilly and other FOX personalities on his now-former CNN show.

What does being Hispanic have to do with it? Sanchez obviously has issues with Jews that have power and when you make an issue of who the bosses are and claim they are not a minority, then you're not going to last long in media - period.

On the other hand, having just listened to all of his comments on YouTube, I don't think his points were all that unfair.
They are linked here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot...-sanchez-over-controverial-remarks

[Edited 2010-10-01 17:45:42]


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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3791 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2905 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Sanchez said that Stewart is bigoted toward "everybody else that's not like him."

Which he is. Don't see what the problem is there.

Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Sanchez dismisses it when Dominick points out that Stewart, who is Jewish, is also a minority.

In the Tri-State area? How is being Jewish a minority in New Jersey, where he grew up, where New York, where he works, or the entertainment business, which he is in?

Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
"I can't see someone not getting a job these days because they're Jewish," he said.

If it is in a pork abbatoir that is only open for business on Saturdays then maybe, otherwise no.



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8505 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Somehow, I am not surprised that he went over the line. The last few times I watched him, I thought he was out there a bit. He definately had an agenda about immigrants. He seemed to be obsessed about them, and you could read very easily into his words, that a crackdown on illegals was not to his liking. He was an open border advocate as far as I am concerned. I watched him go on about how he almost blew his career before in Miami, how lucky he was to get a second chance. You can only draw the lightening so many times.


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 2):
Not sure about that with all the hit pieces Sanchez has done on Beck, O'Reilly and other FOX personalities on his now-former CNN show.

Yes but hey O'Reilly screamed right in Geraldo's face and they probably had a beer after. I kind of like Sanchez and would watch him on FOX.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 2):
Sanchez obviously has issues with Jews that have power and when you make an issue of who the bosses are and claim they are not a minority, then you're not going to last long in media - period.

Actually you mean Jews with power that don't like minorites don't you?

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 2):
On the other hand, having just listened to all of his comments on YouTube, I don't think his points were all that unfair.
They are linked here:

I did too and you may be right. I don't like Stewart, he seems this way. I get the idea Sanchez was on target.

Quoting 474218 (Reply 3):
However, CNN had no problem hiring him as fleeing the scene of a accident that resulted in the death of someone is a resume (CV) enhancer for liberals

Teddy boy!

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 4):
In the Tri-State area? How is being Jewish a minority in New Jersey, where he grew up, where New York, where he works, or the entertainment business, which he is in?

  


User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8505 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
Yes but hey O'Reilly screamed right in Geraldo's face and they probably had a beer after. I kind of like Sanchez and would watch him on FOX.

I ask, why do you folks put so much faith in Theatre, all an obvious act to catch the naive watcher.



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User currently offlineiflykpdx From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

To me, he was by far the most self-absorbed ignoramus at that network, who seemed to be the closest example of a real life "Anchorman" on television. The man truly loves hearing himself talk, and CNN was his vehicle for self promotion. One could count on him to be completely clueless about the finer workings of whatever he was reporting on, constantly asking dumb questions that even the most mentally challenged viewers should've been able to figure out the answers to. In short, my opinion of the guy was about as low as it gets, though I do grant that he never seemed malicious about it, just incredibly pompous and naive. The fact he was fired for opening his big mouth before thinking is completely unsurprising to me.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2805 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):

FOX may hire him. Wouldn't surprise me.

I don't see it. Doesn't fit their right-wing extremist with "liberal" window dressing mold.

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 5):
He definately had an agenda about immigrants. He seemed to be obsessed about them

Well, he is one. He understands it a bit more than many who spout off.



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User currently offlineAKviator From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2794 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 4):
Which he is. Don't see what the problem is there.

How so?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 2):
On the other hand, having just listened to all of his comments on YouTube, I don't think his points were all that unfair.
They are linked here:

I did too and you may be right. I don't like Stewart, he seems this way. I get the idea Sanchez was on target.

Could you please point out your logic to me. Condemning the Daily Show as bigoted and elitist is ridiculous. For christs sake, he's a comedian!! He makes fun of everyone and anyone because that's what comedians do!


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21083 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
FOX may hire him. Wouldn't surprise me.

Yeah, he sounds like the sort of whiny self-obsessed airhead Fox loves to put on the air.

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 4):
Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Sanchez said that Stewart is bigoted toward "everybody else that's not like him."

Which he is.

BS. Or are you suggesting it's bigoted to call out someone in the media when they're just not very good at their job? Because that's all Stewart does with Sanchez. He satirizes people for what they do, not who they are. And there's nothing wrong with that. This whole "he can't understand the family I come from" is missing the point - he doesn't care what family you come from, he can't understand why you're confusing the Galapagos Islands with Hawaii on a map.

Quoting iflykpdx (Reply 8):
One could count on him to be completely clueless about the finer workings of whatever he was reporting on, constantly asking dumb questions that even the most mentally challenged viewers should've been able to figure out the answers to.

   All of which have nothing to do with whatever his background is. Unless, of course, you're of the mindset that immigrants from poor families are innately bad at certain jobs.

-Mir



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

Rick Sanchez went over a line that is very clear - you never make an anti-Semitic statement. Such statements are so loaded with hate and ignorance, so offensive that they will drive away advertisers, you have to be fired promptly. Some here and elsewhere have noted that there was a growing problem in his relationship with CNN from his and the network's prospectives. One has to wonder if he intentionally did this to get fired, if he had a mental health issue that finally came out, or if he finally expressed long repressed opinions.

User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7951 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 11):
This whole "he can't understand the family I come from" is missing the point - he doesn't care what family you come from, he can't understand why you're confusing the Galapagos Islands with Hawaii on a map.

Exactly   

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 5):
I don't like Stewart, he seems this way. I get the idea Sanchez was on target.

Um, I wasn't talking about Stewart I was just referring to the fact that he isn't an obvious Jew-hater from his comments. Stewart doesn't seem like anything except a sharp-as-a-tack highly successful satirist. You don't have to agree with what he says to see why he's so good at what he does - he practically invented a format.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13):
highly successful

Comedy central? He is not that highly anything many people don't even know who he is.

[Edited 2010-10-01 21:08:24]

User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4868 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Hallelujah! First Lou Dobbs and now Rick Sanchez. It's safe to watch CNN again.

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21083 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 14):
Comedy central? He is that highly anything many people don't even know who he is.

Not quite sure what you mean by that second thing, but let's consider:

The Daily Show and the Colbert Report are the highest watched late night talk shows among adults 18-34 (a coveted demographic). The Daily Show has won multiple Emmys. Jon Stewart took what was an average show and turned it into a big-time show for Comedy Central - arguably the network's best-known show (the other candidate being South Park), and a show that attracts some big-time guests (and some interviews that are better than anything you'd get on cable news). And he's got two books out.

If that's not successful to you, you're setting yourself up for a whole lot of disappointment in life.

-Mir



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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2650 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 15):
Hallelujah! First Lou Dobbs and now Rick Sanchez. It's safe to watch CNN again.

Also Campbell Brown left CNN recently and Larry King is about to retire. Also Christianne Ammanpour left CNN for ABC. CNN has lost quite a few people lately. I think Wolf Blitzer is the only one left.


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4737 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2624 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 11):
he can't understand why you're confusing the Galapagos Islands with Hawaii on a map.

His coverage of the Chilean earthquake was HORRIBLE. That was the first time I had seen Rick Sanchez and I immediately thought he was looney.

I say good on Stewart for calling him out.



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User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 14):

Comedy central? He is not that highly anything many people don't even know who he is.

u gotta admit that John Stewart is hillarious  ..come on man, where is your sense of humor???


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18676 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

OK, I'm Jewish (nominally, anyway) and I agree with him.

We're only the most accomplished ethnicity here and the wealthiest religion in the country. By a lot. I cannot imagine a situation in which being Jewish would in any way harm my job prospects for any job I could imagine. Even street sweeper.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16689 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
FOX may hire him. Wouldn't surprise me.
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 2):
Not sure about that with all the hit pieces Sanchez has done on Beck, O'Reilly and other FOX personalities on his now-former CNN show.

Sanchez had his own "Worst Person in the World" everynight, he called it "the list you don't want to be on". Bill O', Beck etc were always on that list.

He's not going to Fox or MSNBC, he's probably heading for a Spanish Language network where he can say crazy things (in Spanish) and nobody would notice.



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User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 21):
He's not going to Fox or MSNBC, he's probably heading for a Spanish Language network where he can say crazy things (in Spanish) and nobody would notice.

Are you saying that all Spanish speakers are crazy? I mean, they'd have to be if they don't notice that the man is saying crazy things, right? Or are you saying that 35 million US residents who use Spanish as their first language are "nobody".
Maybe in Maine, Spanish speakers are only 1.1% of the population, but in New Mexico they are about 43% and in Califirnia about 34%.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
Even street sweeper.

Sorry Doc, you're over-qualified. Who wants a street sweeper who is either a doctor or a lawyer? 


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16689 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Quoting Quokka (Reply 22):
Are you saying that all Spanish speakers are crazy? I mean, they'd have to be if they don't notice that the man is saying crazy things, right? Or are you saying that 35 million US residents who use Spanish as their first language are "nobody".

The "gotcha" media doesn't watch Spanish language tv, they tend to push the envelope on Spanish tv in the US more so than the networks. Just check out a Spanish language gameshow, makes the Price is Right Girls look like Mormons.



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16931 posts, RR: 48
Reply 23, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 3):
In the Tri-State area? How is being Jewish a minority in New Jersey, where he grew up, where New York, where he works, or the entertainment business, which he is in?

Or a Puerto Rican in the Bronx  Everybody is a minority at this point. Everyone doesn't know what it was like growing up in such and such in so and so and is probably offended.

Quoting iflykpdx (Reply 7):
To me, he was by far the most self-absorbed ignoramus at that network,

He was god-awful since I used to see him on South Florida local news...good riddance

Quoting comorin (Reply 15):
First Lou Dobbs and now Rick Sanchez. It's safe to watch CNN again.

  

Quoting STT757 (Reply 21):
Sanchez had his own "Worst Person in the World" everynight, he called it "the list you don't want to be on". Bill O', Beck etc were always on that list.

I think it's fair to say that anyone who has that kind of segment is crap.



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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3552 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 4):
. I watched him go on about how he almost blew his career before in Miami, how lucky he was to get a second chance. You can only draw the lightening so many times.

Yeah, if I ran over and killed a man while drunk driving, which he did, I doubt I'd get off scott free, like he did.


25 stlgph : I suspect that Sanchez was really interested in Abbie Boudreau and after James O'Keefe's stunt failed, I wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez will go to
26 NIKV69 : I will go watch Larry David he is a bit better at comedy than Stewart. Bank accounts don't lie
27 Aaron747 : Larry David's schtick (Yiddish for the unintroduced) is not political satire though - different market. In any case, the bank account argument is cra
28 NIKV69 : So once again we are not basing the success of a comedy show on how many people watch? Again it seems you only want this when it suits your argument.
29 Aaron747 : I don't base anything on meaningless figures like that. Plenty of great TV shows still endlessly syndicated now died because their network management
30 Post contains images aloges : Who is Larry David? I guess that's why Mozart died a rich man.
31 NIKV69 : Yes because if you did you have to admit your wrong. In TV that is how score is kept. How many people watch how many people call to get ad space.
32 aloges : Will you admit that you're wrong about "bank accounts don't lie"? Anyway, the point was that Larry David is a stand-up comedian (apparently, I just l
33 Aaron747 : Well not quite - he was also largely the genius behind Seinfeld, which is by some measures the most successful comedic sitcom in US TV history. Not w
34 PPVRA : Good riddance. Maybe he will be replace by Jack Cafferty.
35 DocLightning : Having two graduate degrees probably disqualifies me from sweeping streets but I can't imagine anyone refusing to hire me just because I'm Jewish. We
36 Post contains images OA412 : What a moron. I understand that some people reach their breaking point, but, as has been pointed out, John Stewart's show is based upon satirizing the
37 Post contains images caliatenza : the guy behind Seinfeld and Curb your Enthusiasm. Yeah, Seinfeld was funny and still is funny, no doubt..but political satire cant be beat .
38 Post contains images aloges : You haven't heard of Russell Peters, have you?
39 Aaron747 : If you watch the YouTube clip though, it's not readily apparent in context that Sanchez was being inherently racist. Still, having escaped with a DUI
40 NIKV69 : We aren't going around in circles. The criteria isn't getting changed excpet by you guys who want to love this guy because he hates the GOP. I don't
41 Post contains links and images racko : I just looked up what he's so upset about and it seems to be pieces like this one: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-1-2010/the-uninformant-
42 ImperialEagle : I think that honor goes to the Mormons. Yes, the success of Seinfeld is a testimony to that!
43 Post contains images aloges : Corking. So at first it was "bank accounts don't lie", then it was the size of the audience and by now you're at "I don't find him funny at all", all
44 AKviator : He doesn't hate the GOP, its just the GOP provides him with more material to work with. You should go to the dailyshow.com sometime and watch a few e
45 OA412 : Uh huh. I don't believe it was us who went from bank accounts to size of audience to wherever else. He also makes fun of the DNC because, let's face
46 Post contains links DocLightning : In terms of centralized church wealth, I'd imagine that's true (probably second to the RCC, actually). In terms of personal wealth, it's Jews, with 4
47 Pyrex : Like most other limousine liberals, he is intolerant of and condescending to anyone that does not think like him. That's the thing, he doesn't. I had
48 Post contains links aloges : I don't watch too many of the onterviews he does on the show, but he was neither intolerant nor condescending towards McCain and O'Reilly, unless of
49 Post contains images OA412 : Sort of like Republicans spent the eight years of George W Bush's presidency blaming Clinton for everything that was wrong with the country? I could
50 Mir : You obviously don't watch the show much. -Mir
51 WarRI1 : Big deal! we all, including myself are from immigrant families, it does not give us the right to preach on about illegal immigration like he was doin
52 AKviator : I don't think that's true at all. Just off the top of my head, I remember on his 9/30 episode he highlighted kids yawning at one of Obama's speeches
53 Post contains links N1120A : According to CNN, Sanchez left, he wasn't fired. http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/01/cnn.sanchez/index.html?iref=obnetwork
54 Post contains images aloges : That changes a couple of things...
55 LTBEWR : One has to wonder if he was given a resignation letter to sign or be fired. It could make a difference in terms of any possible discrimation lawsuit
56 Braniff747SP : I'm glad he got fired. Idiot. Could not stand his show, the only anchor that I did really not like at CNN. Bad reporting, and I could not stand the wa
57 N1120A : He wouldn't have a basis for a discrimination lawsuit. He made an Anti-Semitic (Jewish) comment about a colleague (Jon Stewart does work for CNN). Be
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