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High Speed Police Pursuits Live On The News  
User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8713 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2492 times:

If you live in LA you see high speed pursuits on the news all the time. Weather the guy running from the police has beaten his wife or girlfriend, has had a bad fight with his father, has stolen a car, three strikes, scared guy in just his underwear or what ever, the police chases attracts viewers. Do you think they show the chases to attract viewers for entertainment or do you think the showing of the pursuits in informative. I think the media shows it primarily for entertainment and sensationalistic purposes.


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User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

I think it is for the viewers and wanting to be the first to catch the spectacular crash or live action, on camera first.

I am no fan of high-speed pursuits, as they present a life-threatening hazard to the public. Why would you chase someone down a busy interstate or city street, when you have an air-unit above that can track them at no risk to the public. There have been several civilians as well as LEOs killed because of these pursuits. A former Team member of mine, had one of his best friends killed when they were involved in a HS pursuit, and his buddy tried to overtake him on the right in an attempted box at 90mph, and the target vehicle rammed him and he spun-out and struck a tree.

I had another buddy say, would you run through a crouded mall shooting at someone with a gun, so what is the difference in chasing someone at a high rate of speed through heavy traffic?
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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6844 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

A pretty good indication that it's for the show is that you can watch this in France (not live), where chases are uncommon because deemed too dangerous, so what you get on the TV is actually US pursuits !


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12278 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2435 times:
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Quoting Mudboy (Reply 1):

In New Zealand in recent weeks (especially in CHC) there has been a big increase in the number of high speed chases resulting in accidents and even deaths. In toays paper an officer involved in a 17 sec pursuit last month in CHC was in the paper supporting the pursuit that ended up with the bad boy running a red ligght and slaming into a vehicle driven by an elderly couple, killing them instantly. He said the victoms family have been fully supportive of the police officers involved in the chase and doesn't blame them or the police policy on chases for their family members tragics deaths.

The officer made a very interesting point which I believe sums up why these chases happen. If the police don't chase these people then the world will turn into a lawless community with no one being able to stop things happening. Its a catch 22 for the police, damned if they do and damned if they don't

I do believe that if the chase can be watched by a helicopter or aircraft andd can be watched without any view blockages then patrol vehicles shouldn't be involved in the pursuit


User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

I will say it like it is, High speed pursuits are fun!!! Any cop that tells you they don't get the good old adrenaline rush out of chasing someone down is FOS, or just been doing it long enough to grow out of it. Driving anything at high speed is fun. That being said, chasing someone down because they ran a red light, and them plowing into someone and killing them, is not worth it. Police officers do not like to let the bad guy get away, but is it worth killing or maiming someone in the process. I know of one MHP Trooper that was responding to a pursuit and blew a stop sign, and killed someone. And last I heard , he was going to prison for vehicular manslaughter. There are many juristictions that have a no pursuit policy, or a termination of pursuit after a certain distance, depending on the PC for the stop.

User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2416 times:
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Quoting Mudboy (Reply 1):
Why would you chase someone down a busy interstate or city street, when you have an air-unit above that can track them at no risk to the public.

The trouble with an air unit is that it can neither stop the bad guy or make an arrest. Who's to say the bad guy will stop driving erratically if you stop chasing him? What if it's a drunk driver who will certainly kill or seriously injure someone if you don't stop them? Too many damned if you do and damned if you don't situations...



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User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

If you have a helo tracking the target vehicle, the ground units break pursuit, and the target vehicle thinks he has gotten away, and slows down? You can still have ground units moving in on him from directions given from the air unit. They can then set up roadblocks and lay down stop sticks, spike strips etc. and do it in a more tactical way, instead of half the PD chasing the guy in a line through town.
Obviously you can "what if" this to death, and this only works in areas with air-support.


User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2396 times:
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Quoting Mudboy (Reply 6):
They can then set up roadblocks and lay down stop sticks, spike strips etc. and do it in a more tactical way, instead of half the PD chasing the guy in a line through town.

Do they have time to set all this up? Is the bad guy heading for a school zone or park? Lots of variables that need to be left to the pros to decide.



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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9499 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

over the summer, there was a Boston/Red Sox game on the tv on the right in a bar.
on the left big screen they put on a high speed chase.

no one paid attention to the one on the right for about 20-25 minutes.

and this was in New Haven, CT.



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User currently offlineGeneralAviator From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

I believe the media reports on persuits because pursuits are both newsworthy and very interesting to the general public. They kill two birds with one stone. This subject has been quite contraversial as of late. The criminal justice community is leaning towards persuing only violent felony offenders whos apprehension justifies the risks involved in persuing them. Prior to this line of thinking, it was more widely accepted to pursue anyone who fled from police in vehicles.

Interesting link:
http://www.milwaukee.gov/DailyNewsAr...h/MilwaukeePolicePursuitPolicy.htm


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13170 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

As to if the media ought to broadcast live police pursiuts on live TV - ABSOLUTLY NOT ! I think only the local police authorites involved should be involved in any air pursit and monitoring, should be able to call off any non-police helicopters in the area or at least have the right to cut-off any live video coverage.

What if OJ Simpson during his 'low speed chase' wasn't on international TV coverage by local news helicopters? Maybe the cops would haved been able to pull over or roadblock OJ and his driver under a highway overpass and arrest him there. Because of the coverage, the cops were scarred crap of being able to do that due to racism fears and due to the crowds of people that lined the route to get a glance of the passing parade. There is also the fear of seeing someone get killed - the vehicle operator or innocent bystanders - that I don't want to see on live TV.


User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21800 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Quoting 2707200X (Thread starter):
Do you think they show the chases to attract viewers for entertainment or do you think the showing of the pursuits in informative. I think the media shows it primarily for entertainment and sensationalistic purposes.

   It's solely for show, and it's ridiculous. I might be able to understand if it were a local news broadcast, but there is never any excuse for a national network to do live coverage of a police chase unless the suspect is some sort of celebrity (and even then it's tenuous).

-Mir



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